SCHEMBECHLER and the Samuel

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Nov 21, 2006, 9:16:22 PM11/21/06
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To our German-speaking crew members:
     Just out of curiosity, is there an English translation of any part of the surname SCHEMBECHLER?    I can't find anything in my German/English dictionary.
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Jay  Cline:

   > "... Richard Bennett had an interest in eight vessals.  In 1734 he and Ashbury Sutton owned the 90-ton snow Samuel.  The next year Bennett was part- owner  with Samuel Chew, Jr.   and James Heath of the 50 ton sloop Adventure......In 1744 this firm owned the 75 ton schooner  Bennett, 1745 the 140 ton Charming >Nancy"
  
  >they are discussing the shipping owned by Maryland owners and builders.
  My assumption all along has been that the ships of the German Emigration were >owned in England .   But it is just possible that they were at least in  part attached to the tobacco fleet which would of course require
  >a profitable return trip to the Chesapeake bay for more tobacco. Passengers to >Philadelphia would have been  an excellent way to accomplish the return..

Don't forget that Maryland _was_ England back then!!  So, the ships were owned and/or built by Englishmen.   <smile>   Does the book (or whatever it is) say where the different ships were built?  Do we know if ships were being built in the colonies then?   I am assuming that they were.     Does the book say if the "tobacco ships" actually sailed up into Chesapeake Bay, or could they take on cargo in what is now the Norfolk area?

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Brian Moak:

>That would not be inconsistent with what I know from my ancestry. My Andrew Moak, who came over on the Charming Nancy, was released from indenture in >1745 in SC.This would place the Charming Nancy in "tobacco country."


Verrrrryyy interesting!  Did he arrive on the Charming Nancy in 1745 or years earlier?   We do know that _our_ Ship Samuel arrived 13 July 1735 in Charlestown, SC, with 250 "Switzers" on board, by Captain Hugh Percy.  This was reported in the "South Carolina Gazete--Charles-Town" on 19 July 1735.  "The Ship St. Andrew Capt. Peter Robinson, came out the same time with Capt. Percy from Cowes, having on board 200 Palatines, and is expected here every Day...."

The ship William arrived in Charlestown, SC, on or about 5 Feb 1735, guided by Captain William VITERY.
Ship <unknown> arrived 17 July 1735--76 took Oath & 14 absent.

All of the above information is from the book "The Genealogy & History of the FRIDAY Families from Switzerland, Colonial and Southern America."   I found it using Google's Book Search.  Page 22 also lists several other ships that landed at Charlestown, SC, in the 18th Century.

None other than the Rev. John WESLEY, founder of the Methodist Church, sailed on our ship Samuel.  Also found through Google:  "John Wesley's Journal from October 14, 1735 to February 1, 1737, Covering His Visit to America...."
Beginning at the bottom right-hand corner of Page 18 to the top left-hand corner of Page 19:
    [1737, DECEMBER]
"Thur. 22.  I took my leave of America (though, if it please God, not for ever), going on board the Samuel, Captain Percy, with a young gentleman who had been a few months in Carolina, one of my parishioners of Savannah, and a Frenchman, late of Purrysburg, who was escaped thence with the skin of his teeth."
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Captain Hugh PERCY (also spelled PIERCY and PEARCY) owned land in Orangeburg Twp., Berkeley Co., SC, perhaps as early as 26 Aug 1735. From
"CharCoSC DBk E3:53.  19 Apr 1762: William PERCY, Mariner, formerly of Charleston, SC, but now of St. John's Southwark, Great Britain, son & heir of Hugh PERCY, Planter of SC by his attorney John RAPER, Esq. of Charleston SC to Christopher Rowe, Planter, for 400 pounds, sold 850 acres in Berkeley County, a part of Orangeburg Township...   Whereas Hugh PERCY died intestate & William PERCY, being son & heir at law inherited by letter of attorney 16 Jun 1757 appointed Robert RAPER his attorney to sell land....."
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This information (above) is from an article in the NGS Quarterly, Vol. 73, No. 3, Sept. 1985:   "The First Settlers on the North Fork of the Edisto River, South Carolina" by Ge Lee Corley Hendrix, CG.           It's a great article if any of you had ancestors in that area by 1736.  There is a list of the men who had land grants in Orangeburg Twp. in 1736.  There are pages and pages of information from land books, including plat maps.
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Another reference to the Samuel and Captain PERCY is in "Original Papers:  Correspondence, Trustees, General Oglethorpe and Others. 1735-1752" by James Edward Oglethorpe, Lucian Lamar Knight.    Unfortunately, all we get is a "snippet:"
   "...Chief; dated in Aug, & put on board the Ship Samuel (Capt Percy) at Sea,
  which was bound for Pensylvania, &  thence to Charles Town that there was
   such a letter came by Capt. Percy, ...."

I HATE snippets!!   <G> 
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From "A History of American Literature, Vol. I" by W.P. Trent, Professor of English in Columbia University in 1918:
    Advertisements of merchandise in all the colonies throw a good deal of light on the customs of the time, and incidentally, also on the popular taste in reading. We find that Peter Turner has "Superfine Scarlet Cloth, Hat Linings, Tatlers, Spectators, and Barclay's Apology;" that Peter Harry imports "Head Flowers in Boxes, Laces and Edgings, Psalm-books, Play-books, the Guardians in 2 vol., Women's Short Cloaks, Men's Scarlet Great Coats" and other apparel. The ship Samuel, from London, brings over "sundry goods, particularly a very choice collection of printed Books, Pictures, Maps and Pickles, to be Sold very reasonable by Robert Pringle."
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The sentence referring to the Samuel was from The South Carolina Gazette, No. 511, 9 January, 1744.       Pickles????
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We know from Strassburger & Hinke that the Ship Samuel made at least 6 voyages to Philadelphia: 16 Aug 1731, 11 Aug 1932, 17 Aug 1733, 30 Aug 1737, 27 Aug 1739, and 3 Dec 1740.       Some of the "in-between" voyages were to South Carolina. 
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This is already way too long, but the Capt. (Re-Ret.) had a HUGE mental lapse last week.  I forgot all about the Ship Samuel's 15th Anniversary which was on November 17th.  We can combine a belated anniversary party with a Thanksgiving party. I'm sure that Dave ???? and CAW Dick already have menus planned with SCHrapple SCHtuffing and SCHweet potatoes with MarSCHmallow topping and MaSCHed potatoes with giblet gravy.   I'm sure that they will SCHpike the eggnogg!!

Happy Thanksgiving to all of the crew members and Happy Anniversary to the good Ship Samuel!!

Capt. Ski (Re-Ret.)

Brian

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Brian Moak:

>That would not be inconsistent with what I know from my ancestry. My Andrew Moak, who came over on the Charming Nancy, was released from indenture in >1745 in SC.This would place the Charming Nancy in "tobacco country."


Verrrrryyy interesting! Did he arrive on the Charming Nancy in 1745 or years earlier? We do know that _our_ Ship Samuel arrived 13 July 1735 in Charlestown, SC, with 250 "Switzers" on board, by Captain Hugh Percy. This was reported in the "South Carolina Gazete--Charles-Town" on 19 July 1735. "The Ship St. Andrew Capt. Peter Robinson, came out the same time with Capt. Percy from Cowes, having on board 200 Palatines, and is expected here every Day...."

He was released from endenture in 1745.

We don't know when he arrived. The previous information is from court records. The ship manifests were evidently destroyed by fire. There is speculation that he may have been Andreas Moog (Cousin or brother to the Jacob Moogs of NY & PA). There was a writer that did a book on the Moaks and included a couple Moakes that refused to accept the possibility of Andreas being Andrew simply because the timeline of endenture wouldn't be long enough.

My first question upon reading this was, "what if he paid part of his passage and served a shortened endenture?"

The first sign of his being here is the release from endenture paperwork. It only has his name, ship captain, and date (maybe the man that bought his endenture.)



The ship William arrived in Charlestown, SC, on or about 5 Feb 1735, guided by Captain William VITERY.
Ship arrived 17 July 1735--76 took Oath & 14 absent.


All of the above information is from the book "The Genealogy & History of the FRIDAY Families from Switzerland, Colonial and Southern America." I found it using Google's Book Search. Page 22 also lists several other ships that landed at Charlestown, SC, in the 18th Century.

None other than the Rev. John WESLEY, founder of the Methodist Church, sailed on our ship Samuel. Also found through Google: "John Wesley's Journal from October 14, 1735 to February 1, 1737, Covering His Visit to America...."
Beginning at the bottom right-hand corner of Page 18 to the top left-hand corner of Page 19:
[1737, DECEMBER]
"Thur. 22. I took my leave of America (though, if it please God, not for ever), going on board the Samuel, Captain Percy, with a young gentleman who had been a few months in Carolina, one of my parishioners of Savannah, and a Frenchman, late of Purrysburg, who was escaped thence with the skin of his teeth."
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Captain Hugh PERCY (also spelled PIERCY and PEARCY) owned land in Orangeburg Twp., Berkeley Co., SC, perhaps as early as 26 Aug 1735. From
"CharCoSC DBk E3:53. 19 Apr 1762: William PERCY, Mariner, formerly of Charleston, SC, but now of St. John's Southwark, Great Britain, son & heir of Hugh PERCY, Planter of SC by his attorney John RAPER, Esq. of Charleston SC to Christopher Rowe, Planter, for 400 pounds, sold 850 acres in Berkeley County, a part of Orangeburg Township... Whereas Hugh PERCY died intestate & William PERCY, being son & heir at law inherited by letter of attorney 16 Jun 1757 appointed Robert RAPER his attorney to sell land....."
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This information (above) is from an article in the NGS Quarterly, Vol. 73, No. 3, Sept. 1985: "The First Settlers on the North Fork of the Edisto River, South Carolina" by Ge Lee Corley Hendrix, CG. It's a great article if any of you had ancestors in that area by 1736. There is a list of the men who had land grants in Orangeburg Twp. in 1736. There are pages and pages of information from land books, including plat maps.
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Another reference to the Samuel and Captain PERCY is in "Original Papers: Correspondence, Trustees, General Oglethorpe and Others. 1735-1752" by James Edward Oglethorpe, Lucian Lamar Knight. Unfortunately, all we get is a "snippet:"
"...Chief; dated in Aug, & put on board the Ship Samuel (Capt Percy) at Sea,
which was bound for Pensylvania, & thence to Charles Town that there was
such a letter came by Capt. Percy, ...."

I HATE snippets!!
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From "A History of American Literature, Vol. I" by W.P. Trent, Professor of English in Columbia University in 1918:
Advertisements of merchandise in all the colonies throw a good deal of light on the customs of the time, and incidentally, also on the popular taste in reading. We find that Peter Turner has "Superfine Scarlet Cloth, Hat Linings, Tatlers, Spectators, and Barclay's Apology;" that Peter Harry imports "Head Flowers in Boxes, Laces and Edgings, Psalm-books, Play-books, the Guardians in 2 vol., Women's Short Cloaks, Men's Scarlet Great Coats" and other apparel. The ship Samuel, from London, brings over "sundry goods, particularly a very choice collection of printed Books, Pictures, Maps and Pickles, to be Sold very reasonable by Robert Pringle."
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The sentence referring to the Samuel was from The South Carolina Gazette, No. 511, 9 January, 1744. Pickles????
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We know from Strassburger & Hinke that the Ship Samuel made at least 6 voyages to Philadelphia: 16 Aug 1731, 11 Aug 1932, 17 Aug 1733, 30 Aug 1737, 27 Aug 1739, and 3 Dec 1740. Some of the "in-between" voyages were to South Carolina.
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This is already way too long, but the Capt. (Re-Ret.) had a HUGE mental lapse last week. I forgot all about the Ship Samuel's 15th Anniversary which was on November 17th. We can combine a belated anniversary party with a Thanksgiving party. I'm sure that Dave ???? and CAW Dick already have menus planned with SCHrapple SCHtuffing and SCHweet potatoes with MarSCHmallow topping and MaSCHed potatoes with giblet gravy. I'm sure that they will SCHpike the eggnogg!!

Happy Thanksgiving to all of the crew members and Happy Anniversary to the good Ship Samuel!!

Capt. Ski (Re-Ret.)


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