NewsShift Knight News Challenge Entry

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David Nolen

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Dec 16, 2009, 6:42:09 PM12/16/09
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ShiftSpace and LittleSis.org (http://littlesis.org) have collaborated
together on a fairly extensive proposal for the Knight News Challenge.
We'd be happy if you'd take some time to look over the proposal and
give us some feedback. You'd make us very, very happy if you put in a
vote for our proposal ;)

Here's the first paragraph: "NewsShift is a web platform that adds a
social research layer to online news stories. This layer, accessible
from the news page itself, offers readers powerful tools to
communicate and develop the story with additional information and
insight -- facilitating collaborative watchdog journalism."

And the full proposal link:
http://generalapp.newschallenge.org/SNC/ViewItem.aspx?pguid=6aee8166-fb7c-4a2e-8581-fa6f6ff036dd&itemguid=1a4c99f1-374b-4a65-96fb-7586118a1175

Our fingers are crossed on NewsShift. If we get this grant it means we
could take ShiftSpace to the next level in a much more focused way.

Thank you for your continued support,
The ShiftSpace Team

fridemar

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Dec 16, 2009, 9:40:13 PM12/16/09
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Dear developer team of ShiftSpace,

having tried your initial public version of Shiftspace and now read
your proposal,
I feel that the rich innovation potential needs some more explanation
on the
social programming aspects.

Current systems already allow watchdog journalism (social
annotation systems). They are document centric.

ShiftSpace transforms document orientated pages into sensors,
motors and information processing units, it builds the cells of a
friendly global brain,
i.e. the Noosphere, integrating the efforts of text, graphic-, music
and program-
authors, uniting productive people of different areas.

I am looking forward to the advancement of ShiftSpace as a substantial
contribution
to building social trails as dynamically growing conceptmaps, that
help collectively
exploring and building the design-space of our planet (Stigmergy-
Effect.)

Dr. Fridemar Pache

PS.:
- Please feel free to use this text as a testimonial.
- Where can I vote for your project?
- Do you think it is helpful to put this response
-- as a integrated comment to your given link target
-- as an additional GoogleSideWiki comment
(syndicated to Twitter, Facebook, MySpace, Posterous, Diigo, etc. )?


On Dec 17, 12:42 am, David Nolen <david.no...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ShiftSpace and LittleSis.org (http://littlesis.org) have collaborated
> together on a fairly extensive proposal for the Knight News Challenge.
> We'd be happy if you'd take some time to look over the proposal and
> give us some feedback. You'd make us very, very happy if you put in a
> vote for our proposal ;)
>
> Here's the first paragraph: "NewsShift is a web platform that adds a
> social research layer to online news stories. This layer, accessible
> from the news page itself, offers readers powerful tools to
> communicate and develop the story with additional information and
> insight -- facilitating collaborative watchdog journalism."
>

> And the full proposal link:http://generalapp.newschallenge.org/SNC/ViewItem.aspx?pguid=6aee8166-...

Chris Blow

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Dec 17, 2009, 3:04:12 AM12/17/09
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voted!


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David Nolen

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Dec 17, 2009, 10:51:36 AM12/17/09
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Thanks!

David Nolen

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Dec 17, 2009, 10:56:45 AM12/17/09
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:40 PM, fridemar <frid...@googlemail.com> wrote:
Dear developer team of ShiftSpace,

Current systems already allow watchdog journalism (social
annotation systems). They are document centric.

True but most don't provide a open API to draw information from or a simple way to overlay information over a website- that is provide the data in context. Also most systems are either closed source or not amenable to extension by third parties. ShiftSpace has always and will continue to open source the entire stack- server down to API for building user interface extensions (aka Spaces).
 
- Where can I vote for your project?

It's on our entry page but you do have to create an account to vote.

- Do you think it is helpful to put this response
-- as a integrated comment to your given link target
-- as an additional GoogleSideWiki comment
(syndicated to Twitter, Facebook, MySpace, Posterous, Diigo, etc. )?

All of the above?

Thanks for the response,
David
 


On Dec 17, 12:42 am, David Nolen <david.no...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ShiftSpace and LittleSis.org (http://littlesis.org) have collaborated
> together on a fairly extensive proposal for the Knight News Challenge.
> We'd be happy if you'd take some time to look over the proposal and
> give us some feedback. You'd make us very, very happy if you put in a
> vote for our proposal ;)
>
> Here's the first paragraph: "NewsShift is a web platform that adds a
> social research layer to online news stories. This layer, accessible
> from the news page itself, offers readers powerful tools to
> communicate and develop the story with additional information and
> insight -- facilitating collaborative watchdog journalism."
>
> And the full proposal link:http://generalapp.newschallenge.org/SNC/ViewItem.aspx?pguid=6aee8166-...
>
> Our fingers are crossed on NewsShift. If we get this grant it means we
> could take ShiftSpace to the next level in a much more focused way.
>
> Thank you for your continued support,
> The ShiftSpace Team

Fridemar Dr. Pache

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Dec 17, 2009, 12:22:04 PM12/17/09
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Hello David,

thank you for your response.

I silently (i.e. without covoted on the proposal page

NewsShift: watchdog journalism with a long tail

(with 5*) and recommend each ShiftSpace member to support this cause.

I'm pondering about the meaning of the last question-mark in your answer :-)

Do you think, we shouldn't wake up "sleeping dogs"?

-- Fridemar




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Jack Park

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Dec 17, 2009, 1:12:11 PM12/17/09
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My I inject a question here?
I believe it's somewhat 'on topic' in relation to a news challenge. I
did play with SS back in its early days when it was pretty buggy, but
now starting to think of using it anew given that I am building a
'collective intelligence ' (global sensemaking) platform based on
Semantic MediaWiki and topic maps, where SS might be quite useful.

My question relates to the signal to noise ratio ensconced in large
volumes of information resources being passed about. Given the
increasing polarization of world views, increasing rhetorical
'temperatures' (global warming, indeed!), in what way does SS serve to
increase the S/N ratio?

It seems to me that if there really is a news challenge, it is to
bring more thoughtfulness, more scholarship into play. How does SS
contribute to that?

Many thanks in advance for thoughts on this.
Jack

David Nolen

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Dec 17, 2009, 2:20:22 PM12/17/09
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Thank you for keeping us in mind all this time. Apologies up front, this is a long response!


On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Jack Park <jack...@gmail.com> wrote:
My I inject a question here?
I believe it's somewhat 'on topic' in relation to a news challenge. I
did play with SS back in its early days when it was pretty buggy, but
now starting to think of using it anew given that I am building a
'collective intelligence ' (global sensemaking) platform based on
Semantic MediaWiki and topic maps, where SS might be quite useful.

On bugginess:

ShiftSpace's architecture has changed quite a bit since the early days. It's considerably less buggy even in it's current 0.16 form. When 1.0 launches I think you'll find it quite pleasant. We plan on being very attendant to any and all bugs you may find in the 1.0 release. It's also much simpler for us to iterate through UI improvements. If something doesn't work, we can build it / fix it quickly. This was not the case before.

Semantic MediaWiki:

I don't know much about about it so I'm not really in a position to put forth an opinion. However there is an interesting side effect of our new architecture which I think could be exploited in truly incredible ways. We're using CouchDB which supports bi-directional replication between any two databases. This means it would be easy to use ShiftSpace as the tool in the wild, then you could simply replicate ShiftSpace data (that you have access to) into your own CouchDB instance and build whatever custom application you please. Changes can be propagated from your application back to ShiftSpace and vice versa.

The sky's the limit here I think. It's mashups taken to a whole new level.
 
My question relates to the signal to noise ratio ensconced in large
volumes of information resources being passed about. Given the
increasing polarization of world views, increasing rhetorical
'temperatures' (global warming, indeed!), in what way does SS serve to
increase the S/N ratio?

ShiftSpace 1.0 address the S/N ratio (which is a serious problem in current and earlier releases) by adopting now well known patterns. First you can completely ignore the public feed if you wish. You can follow content generated only from people you follow or groups that you belong to. These are two powerful filters that have already proved to be successful with Twitter.

We're also planning on allowing users to create, save and apply arbitrary filters on ShiftSpace content.
 
It seems to me that if there really is a news challenge, it is to
bring more thoughtfulness, more scholarship into play. How does SS
contribute to that?

Yes that is the intention. ShiftSpace in it's current release is a wonderful and fascinating experiment that we've learned a lot from (and continue to learn from). With the next release we think that ShiftSpace can support both wild experimentation _and_ pratical daily use. 1.0 has been in development for a year and a half to make the practical daily use a reality.

Thoughtfulness I think is generated when there is support for community building and well as having adequate control over your own creations. Both of these things are missing now and I think this has contributed to the fact that ShiftSpace content at the moment is largely "people talking to themselves" (as Mushon likes to put it). These features are started to come together and I think they will make an incredible difference on how you relate to other ShiftSpace users.

As some evidence that this is not vaporware - you can check out real screens of where we're at here: http://groups.google.com/group/ShiftSpace-dev/browse_thread/thread/17738556b90cb906?hl=en
 

Many thanks in advance for thoughts on this.
Jack

Apologies again for the long response.

Thank you for chiming in,
David
 

Jack Park

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Dec 17, 2009, 2:28:06 PM12/17/09
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David,
No apologies required; your reply gave much food for thought.

Many thanks
Jack

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