We want your feedback on the 1.0 Redesign

[Mushon Zer-Aviv]

Hi,

Over the summer we are publishing a post series about the 1.0 ShiftSpace redesign on our site, we would love for you to provide your feedback on it. Please use the comments area to discuss these posts:

1. New § notifier and § bar
2. The universal shifts tab
3. My ShiftSpace + Inbox
4. more posts coming up (overview here)
   

Your feedback is essential for the project's success.

thanks,

--

Mushon Zer-Aviv | Shual.com - design studio | ShiftSpace.org - an opensource layer above any website | +  1-646-283-6057

[fridemar]

Thank you for inviting feedback:

The most important (and most easy to implement) wish in my wishlist
is:
* allow full html, including widget (object) s in the notes (for copy
and paste applications)
* allow to maximize the notes to fullsize screen
* give each note an easy accessible, human-readable URI for multiple
reuse and connecting notes with each other (and beyond)
* make each CamelCase automatically a tag PLUS a http://www.google.com/search?q=CamelCase
link (See http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?GoogleTagWiki)

Then as a "multiplier" user (in the sense of friendly PR for
shiftSpace) I will be happy to use these notes as containers for
* my wiki postings, using different wikis, inspiring peers to join
* concept graphs as a fast trail tool
* and many other useful, community empowerments

Thank you
Fridemar

On Aug 27, 7:04 pm, Mushon Zer-Aviv <mus...@shual.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Over the summer we are publishing a post series about the 1.0 ShiftSpace
> redesign on our site, we would love for you to provide your feedback on
> it. Please use the comments area to discuss these posts:
>

>    1. New § notifier and § bar
>       <http://www.shiftspace.org/2009/07/05/1-0-redesign-notifier-shiftspace...>
>    2. The universal shifts tab
>       <http://www.shiftspace.org/2009/07/11/0-1-redesign-the-universal-shift...>
>    3. My ShiftSpace + Inbox
>       <http://www.shiftspace.org/2009/08/26/1-0-redesign-my-%C2%A7-tab-inbox/>
>    4. more posts coming up (overview here
>       <http://www.shiftspace.org/2009/07/05/introducing-the-redesign-post-se...>)

>
> Your feedback is essential for the project's success.
>
> thanks,
> --
>

> Mushon Zer-Aviv | ע Shual.com <http://www.shual.com> - design studio |§
> ShiftSpace.org <http://www.ShiftSpace.org> - an opensource layer above
> any website | +  1-646-283-6057

[Mushon Zer-Aviv]

fridemar wrote:

Thank you for inviting feedback:
  

Thanks for providing it, and sorry for only replying now. Your email slipped from my notice for some reason.

The most important (and most easy to implement) wish in my wishlist
is:
* allow full html,  including widget (object) s in the notes (for copy
and paste applications)
  

Actually, instead of making this available in Notes, we're thinking the next release will be shipped with 3 built in spaces only (the rest will be available to install from ShiftSpace.org):

• Notes - pretty much like today's notes, but slightly redesigned & possibly supporting with some basic syntax like <b> <i> <a> html tags
• Highlights - will require a redesign of the interface to make it simpler to use and more user friendly. Hopefully a stronger Rangecoder library will make this very important space more robust.
• Embed - free-formed html shift that will accept any html code. It will probably also be a more straight forward option than today's Sourceforge.

I guess the Embed space will be serving what you need. Right?

* allow to maximize the notes to fullsize screen
  

I guess this is something to do on the Embed space rather than Notes, right?

* give each note an easy accessible, human-readable URI for multiple
reuse and connecting notes with each other (and beyond)
  

This will work through the proxy which Joe is currently rewriting using Python

* make each CamelCase automatically a tag PLUS a http://www.google.com/search?q=CamelCase
link (See http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?GoogleTagWiki)

Then as a "multiplier" user (in the sense of friendly PR for
shiftSpace) I will be happy to use these notes as containers for
* my wiki postings, using different wikis, inspiring peers to join
* concept graphs as a fast trail tool
* and many other useful, community empowerments
  

Not sure I see the benefits of a dependency on Google. We have shifts tagging interface built into 1.0 but I think what you need is an actual Wiki space and that is a worthy challenge that should probably be addressed separately rather than through the Notes space. (me think)

Thank you
Fridemar
  

Thank you!

[Fridemar Dr. Pache]

Why not unify Notes, Highlights, Embed into one thing, let's call them PowerNotes ?

The casual note taker gets their tiny writeboxes as usual, the more sophisticated users embed html code and can blow up the window to full screen size or contract it to a highlighted hover over link.

Maximizing the note window allows to embed ConceptMaps in their html representation (e.g. for bidirectional trailing PowerNotes and as super concise annotation).

The wiki challenge could be mastered immediately by embedding or (or later transcluding/linking) html code clips from arbitrary user-choosen host wikis (in view mode) as already practised with the earlier DiiGo or FireTrail notes.

And please re-consider to make CamelCase at least Google references, because it motivates inter community links of top-ranked community endeavors and it also motivates to put
collaborative work into SuperLongHighPrecisionTags to become top ranked on Google.

Google thus becomes the data-base host of an implicit global wiki, that appears to be more efficient as even GoogleSearchWiki and GoogleSideWiki, that have no link generators built in.

I already have suggested this AutoLinking and AutoTagging to Google ( taking all CamelCase as search links and collecting all CamelCase words (including the CamelCaseTitle) as tags for locating PowerNotes (and their base pages) ).

Google appears to be in a double bind situation: On the one hand they love wikis and communities, on the other hand they fear wikis, because wikis might dilute the link-space from which temporarily to earn conventional money.

However in the long run WikiNomics ("How mass collaboration changes everything") might "take over the world" and Google could be our best friend in the same boat :-)
A global community friendly Google cannot be deregulated, because having millions of satisfied collaborators, it has metamorphed into a supra-national virtual organization as an OpenBusiness, building a friendly GlobalBrain.

Best wishes
-- fridemar

PS.:
Just like in CritOrg, it goes without saying, that PowerNotes (preferably in their maximized view), should allow recursively PowerNotes themselves.

--

Let's FosterEachOther   (Google for it)

Fridemar

[Mushon | Shual.com]

So Friedemar,

It seems like you have a pretty elaborate spec for a space, why not work on writing it? (rather than changing notes) the beauty of ShiftSpace, open source and our super friendly API is that it allows this to happen. You have an idea, you feel strongly about it, go ahead and do it! We promise we'll be there to help! 

Mushon Zer-Aviv | Shual.com | ShiftSpace.org

[fridemar]

Dear developers,

Thank you for your friendly invitation to join the programmers writing
circle,
signaling help to the newcomers.

Clearly we need developing software as well as developing communities.
Both type of developers can help each other immensely, by listening
and
responding to each other.

*Currently* I am concentrating myself on community development, which
is a lot
of work; I think this division of labor can help to avoid suboptimal
collaboration.

Completing my last stance for wikified PowerNotes, here is an example
to
demonstrate Annotations with embedded host wiki html to wet the
appetite.
http://trailfire.com/fridemar/marks/103057 (Unfortunately Trailfire is
not OpenSource).

All the best to all of us
-- fridemar

On Oct 1, 3:34 am, "Mushon | Shual.com" <mus...@shual.com> wrote:
> So Friedemar,
> It seems like you have a pretty elaborate spec for a space, why not  
> work on writing it? (rather than changing notes) the beauty of  
> ShiftSpace, open source and our super friendly API is that it allows  
> this to happen. You have an idea, you feel strongly about it, go ahead  
> and do it! We promise we'll be there to help!
>
> Mushon Zer-Aviv | Shual.com | ShiftSpace.org
>

> On Sep 30, 2009, at 8:52 PM, "Fridemar Dr. Pache" <fride...@googlemail.com

> >> link (Seehttp://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?GoogleTagWiki)

[David Nolen]

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 7:57 PM, fridemar <frid...@googlemail.com> wrote:

Dear developers,

Thank you for your friendly invitation to join the programmers writing
circle,
signaling help to the newcomers.

Clearly we need developing software as well as developing communities.
Both type of developers can help each other immensely, by listening
and
responding to each other.

Hear, hear :)
 

*Currently* I am concentrating myself on community development, which
is a lot
of work; I think this division of labor can help to avoid suboptimal
collaboration.

Completing my last stance for wikified PowerNotes, here is an example
to
demonstrate Annotations with embedded host wiki html to wet the
appetite.
http://trailfire.com/fridemar/marks/103057 (Unfortunately Trailfire is
not OpenSource).

TrailFire is quite nice. We definitely have a goal to make our proxy experience at least as good as TrailFire. But as you as say TrailFire is not open source and the forms of extension are limited by the imaginations of the TrailFire team.

Personally I am looking forward to a real WikiSpace- one where the shift itself can collaborated on by multiple individuals. This is a model of interaction that we haven't explored much in ShiftSpace and don't really have the resources to. But as Mushon says, we're more than willing to help and modify the platform to make this possible.

David
 

[Doron Ben Avraham]

I like your approach fridemar, both for the technical merit of your
idea, and also your point about avoiding suboptimal collaboration.

I would like to hear more about your ideas about fostering a larger
shiftspace community, a not all technical problem which is always of
interest.

Doron