July SHDH - we need a topic.

[brenda....@gmail.com]

Any suggestions for topics? I think of things i know folks in
wellington are doing, and then arrange for them to talk to us.

I offer these: (all biased towards what i do)
* Mobile Internet -- people who can talk on how they built a mobile
version of their web site
* Web Frameworks - drupal+silverstripe+rails+django+suchlike
* Version Control - CVS+subversion+git+bzr+suchlike

do any of these sounds interesting ?
Is there something someone in wellington has worked with recently that
you'd like to hear from?

The format of our talks is possibly unusual to some. Instead of
slides, we all join the same ircchannel and watch there. The speaker
can then post links to webpages, pastebin code snippets and etc while
we all follow along.

[Richard Clark]

I could probably do a few:

* Design and implementation of autonomous business entities
* Community systems, mechanisms of software-assisted social control
* Methods for maintaining browser-side security in the face of
introspection
* High-volume server side ajax support using twisted/erlang


On Jun 16, 9:07 pm, "bre...@wallace.net.nz" <brenda.wall...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[Robvdl]

Well, this would be my first time attending. I wanted to attend last
time, but things didn't work out. This time I will try to make it.

Web frameworks is pretty much what I work with all the time, but
mostly Django (like 99% of the time), some Silverstripe for helping
with friends sites, but not much really.

Version control is something I have been meaning to learn for a very
long time. I have always been working on my own projects, by myself,
not with others. I know how to check out a subversion or cvs branch,
but that's about it. I have been meaning to learn how to upload to
subversion when I start releasing my projects in the future, just been
putting it off as, well my projects I feel just arent quite ready
enough to release into the wild :)

On Jun 16, 9:07 pm, "bre...@wallace.net.nz" <brenda.wall...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[brenda....@gmail.com]

On Jun 16, 11:12 pm, Richard Clark <richard.cl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> * High-volume server side ajax support using twisted/erlang

That sounds interesting, and follows on from the erlang hello world we
had in June.

[Matt Peel]

I may or may not be a sneaky SilverStripe spy. Whether or not I attend
is based on my parents letting me out of the house however ;-)

I use SVN extensively at work (typically the same thing over and over
again though) and have heavily customized trac to our needs as well. I
could possibly also talk a bit about geospatial stuff, or get another
guy at work to come on in and do a better talk about it :P

I'm pretty boring though :-)

Matt.

[munky...@gmail.com]

Be interesting to do a "how the other side lives" sort of thing. Like,
if you're a Silverstripe person who has never played with Rails, go
find a Railsite to show you some stuff, and then in return you teach
them some Silverstripe.

Personally, I'd love to have someone sit me down and tell me about the
cool stuff they can do in X that I can't do in Y. If your only tool is
a hammer and all that ;)

Better than a "Framework shootout". (Only because, let's face it,
Rails would kick ass so bad :p).

Nik

[Robvdl]

It would be interesting to learn from other frameworks. I'd love to
compare Rails and Django, I was going to learn Rails about 8 months
ago, but due to several reasons I ended up choosing to learn Django
instead, more like a personal choice really. It would be interesting
to see what advantages/drawbacks each framework has, although I don't
actually know the Ruby language, but it should be similar to Python.

As for SilverStripe, it's not really comparable I think as it is both
a framework and a CMS, whether Rails and Django are frameworks only.
More like Cake or Symfony.

On Jun 17, 9:42 am, "munkywre...@gmail.com" <munkywre...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[Brenda Wallace]

I think we have enough folks to do a "web framework" edition of SHDH
Limit each person to 10 minutes, we can have 4 to 6 people.

Date of new hackfest is 2008-07-06

Rob can you talk on Django?

I can talk on Drupal 6.

Is there a silverstriper or a ROR-er here?
How about Cake or MVC?

I'm pestering Sam Vilain to talk on Catalyst the perl MVC (not catalyst the
company).

Who/What else?

We're not too strict -- someone wants to talk on building websites with
wordpress or some kinda wiki that's okay too.

[Nik Wakelin]

I'm a ROR-er (heh, that sounds cool) so volunteer me I guess ;)

--
Nik Wakelin
munky...@gmail.com

[Hamish Campbell]

Hi!

 

I'm not in Wellington, totally new to the group and have never been to a SHDH, but I'm not going to let that stop me throw an idea in the hat:

• Have everyone make the same website/app in their framework of choice.

It could be something as simple as a blog engine. Grab a theme template (so you've got some images/html/css to play with) and everyone tackles the same task with their framework of choice.

 

Then you can compare the code, performance and dev work!

 

Points awarded for rapid development, elegant solutions, least lines of code (without sacrificing readability!), etc.

 

Anywho, have fun!

 

Hamish

2008/6/17 Nik Wakelin <munky...@gmail.com>:

[Robvdl]

Yeah, a 10 minute talk on Django shouldn't be a problem

[Jonathan Harker]

I have a friend who wrote his own .NET based CMS for a govt dept we used
to work at. He's keen to open-source it, and I've said I'd help port it
to LAMP (Linux Apache Mono PostgreSQL :-)) I'm trying to badger him into
coming along.

J

[Sam Vilain]

On Jun 17, 12:17 pm, Brenda Wallace <bre...@wallace.net.nz> wrote:

> I'm pestering Sam Vilain to talk on Catalyst the perl MVC (not catalyst the
> company).

Again!? :-)

I guess I could talk on that, is anyone going to talk on ye olde
faithfull, Mason?

[Robvdl]

My laptop will my the crappiest there. I managed to get my friends
Netgear WPN111 USB WiFi adapter going under Linux using ndiswrapper
and so far seems to be going good, so I'm all set there. But signal
strength is really quite weak, I hope there's good signal up there :)

My laptop doesn't have a battery, so I'm going to need a power point.
I'm saving up for another laptop, just this one will have to do me for
a few months more.

Where do you pay for the WiFi, do you pay at the event?

[Mark]

You know, with all the fancy web "stuff" being flung around, maybe someone should give a talk on input validation?

I guess that might be me then... 

(I can can pick on one, all or none of the suggested frameworks if you wish :) )?

Cheers!

M

[Richard Clark]

Can do Turbogears and/or Google Apps for Domains here.

[Brenda Wallace]

lemme know and i'll add to the website.
http://superhappydevhouse.org.nz/july_hackfest

[Brenda Wallace]

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:06:06 Robvdl wrote:
> Where do you pay for the WiFi, do you pay at the event?

Yes, you can buy over the counter.

Or bring some cat5 and then ask someone with wifi to help you out.