Merchant Seamen
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ann atkinson
Oct 7, 2005, 1:18:35 PM10/7/05
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Can anyone help me. I am researching my greatgrandad George Matsell who
was a Merchant Seaman in 1900, but Joined the army in 1914 and died in
Somme, France in 1915.
I cannot find him on the 1891 Census when he would have been abt 11yrs
old or on the 1901 Census.
George Matsell was born 1879 in Hull, East Yorkshire, England. Family
stories say: that he sailed with Shackleton. I cannot find any Crew
Lists with him on.
was a Merchant Seaman in 1900, but Joined the army in 1914 and died in
Somme, France in 1915.
I cannot find him on the 1891 Census when he would have been abt 11yrs
old or on the 1901 Census.
George Matsell was born 1879 in Hull, East Yorkshire, England. Family
stories say: that he sailed with Shackleton. I cannot find any Crew
Lists with him on.
Hugh Watkins
Oct 7, 2005, 4:21:39 PM10/7/05
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Well he may be at sea in blue water
1881
Record Gerry Matsell abt 1879 Hull, Yorkshire, England Son 15 Ellis
Ter, Southcoates, Yorkshire
View Record Berny Matsell abt 1840 East Barsham Head 15 Ellis Ter,
Southcoates, Yorkshire, England
View Record Gerry Matsell abt 1879 Hull, Yorkshire, England Son 15
Ellis Ter, Southcoates, Yorkshire, England
View Record Jack Matsell abt 1873 South Easton, Yorkshire, England
Son 15 Ellis Ter, Southcoates, Yorkshire, England
View Record Polly Matsell abt 1861 Little Snorim Daughter 15 Ellis
Ter, Southcoates, Yorkshire, England
View Record Susan Matsell abt 1840 Little Snorim Wife 15 Ellis Ter,
Southcoates, Yorkshire, England
View Record George Robinson abt 1852 Holmes, Yorkshire, England
Lodger 15 Ellis Ter, Southcoates, Yorkshire, England
Name: Berny Matsell
Age in 1881: 41
Age months: 0
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relationship to head-of-household: Head
Household: View other family members
Family and neighbors: View neighbors
Gender: Male
Where born: East Barsham
Address: 15 Ellis Ter
Civil parish: Southcoates
County/Island: Yorkshire
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Dock Labourer
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Source information: RG11/4755
Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Drypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Folio: 8
Page: 9
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1891
View Record Matsell, Berry abt 1834 Barham, Norfolk, England Head
Southcoates Yorkshire
View Record Matsell, Sushannah abt 1840 Barham, Norfolk, England Wife
Southcoates Yorkshire
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1901
View Record Matthew Butters abt 1856 Norfolk, England Boarder
Sculcoates Yorkshire
View Record William Como abt 1861 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
Boarder Sculcoates Yorkshire
View Record John Gardner abt 1837 Norfolk, England Boarder
Sculcoates Yorkshire
View Record Benny Matsell abt 1840 East Basstorm, Norfolk, England
Head Sculcoates Yorkshire
View Record Susan Matsell abt 1846 Fakenham, Norfolk, England Wife
Sculcoates Yorkshire
http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/search.aspx
MATSELL
Initials: G
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment: East Yorkshire Regiment
Unit Text: 1st/4th Bn.
Date of Death: 03/05/1915
Service No: 2378
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. A. 182.
Cemetery: BAILLEUL COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION (NORD)
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nothing obvious
have you tried the mariners list?
Hugh W
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1881
Record Gerry Matsell abt 1879 Hull, Yorkshire, England Son 15 Ellis
Ter, Southcoates, Yorkshire
View Record Berny Matsell abt 1840 East Barsham Head 15 Ellis Ter,
Southcoates, Yorkshire, England
View Record Gerry Matsell abt 1879 Hull, Yorkshire, England Son 15
Ellis Ter, Southcoates, Yorkshire, England
View Record Jack Matsell abt 1873 South Easton, Yorkshire, England
Son 15 Ellis Ter, Southcoates, Yorkshire, England
View Record Polly Matsell abt 1861 Little Snorim Daughter 15 Ellis
Ter, Southcoates, Yorkshire, England
View Record Susan Matsell abt 1840 Little Snorim Wife 15 Ellis Ter,
Southcoates, Yorkshire, England
View Record George Robinson abt 1852 Holmes, Yorkshire, England
Lodger 15 Ellis Ter, Southcoates, Yorkshire, England
Name: Berny Matsell
Age in 1881: 41
Age months: 0
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relationship to head-of-household: Head
Household: View other family members
Family and neighbors: View neighbors
Gender: Male
Where born: East Barsham
Address: 15 Ellis Ter
Civil parish: Southcoates
County/Island: Yorkshire
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Dock Labourer
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Source information: RG11/4755
Registration district: Sculcoates
Sub-registration district: Drypool
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Folio: 8
Page: 9
====================================
1891
View Record Matsell, Berry abt 1834 Barham, Norfolk, England Head
Southcoates Yorkshire
View Record Matsell, Sushannah abt 1840 Barham, Norfolk, England Wife
Southcoates Yorkshire
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1901
View Record Matthew Butters abt 1856 Norfolk, England Boarder
Sculcoates Yorkshire
View Record William Como abt 1861 Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England
Boarder Sculcoates Yorkshire
View Record John Gardner abt 1837 Norfolk, England Boarder
Sculcoates Yorkshire
View Record Benny Matsell abt 1840 East Basstorm, Norfolk, England
Head Sculcoates Yorkshire
View Record Susan Matsell abt 1846 Fakenham, Norfolk, England Wife
Sculcoates Yorkshire
http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/search.aspx
MATSELL
Initials: G
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment: East Yorkshire Regiment
Unit Text: 1st/4th Bn.
Date of Death: 03/05/1915
Service No: 2378
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. A. 182.
Cemetery: BAILLEUL COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION (NORD)
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nothing obvious
have you tried the mariners list?
Hugh W
Welsh Families HOMEPAGE
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hugh/monfh2/index.html
and a very helpful list and message board
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/monfh2/
Renia
Oct 7, 2005, 8:56:49 PM10/7/05
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| Name: | Matsell, George |
|---|---|
| Record Type: | Births |
| Quarter: | March |
| Year: | 1879 |
| District: | Sculcoates |
| County: | East Riding of Yorkshire |
| Volume: | 9d |
| Page: | 167 (click to see others on page) |
| View Record | Fox, Ellen | 1898 | December | Marriages | Sculcoates | East Riding of Yorkshire |
| View Record | GOULDING, Ellen | 1898 | December | Marriages | Sculcoates | East Riding of Yorkshire |
| View Record | Matsell, George | 1898 | December | Marriages | Sculcoates | East Riding of Yorkshire |
| View Record | O'Malley, Maurice | 1898 | December | Marriages | Sculcoates | East Riding of Yorkshire |
| Name: | Matsell, George |
|---|---|
| Record Type: | Births |
| Quarter: | September |
| Year: | 1899 |
| District: | Sculcoates |
| County: | East Riding of Yorkshire |
| Volume: | 9d |
| Page: | 214 (click to see others on page) |
| Name: | Matsell, George |
|---|---|
| Record Type: | Deaths |
| Age at death: | 0 |
| Quarter: | September |
| Year: | 1899 |
| District: | Sculcoates |
| County: | East Riding of Yorkshire |
| Volume: | 9d |
| Page: | 149 (click to see others on page) |
| Name: | Matsell, George |
|---|---|
| Record Type: | Births |
| Quarter: | December |
| Year: | 1900 |
| District: | Sculcoates |
| County: | East Riding of Yorkshire |
| Volume: | 9d |
| Page: | 190 (click to see others on page) |
| Name: | Matsell, George |
|---|---|
| Record Type: | Deaths |
| Age at death: | 0 |
| Quarter: | December |
| Year: | 1900 |
| District: | Sculcoates |
| County: | East Riding of Yorkshire |
| Volume: | 9d |
| Page: | 126 (click to see others on page) |
| Name: | Matsell, George |
|---|---|
| Record Type: | Births |
| Quarter: | June |
| Year: | 1902 |
| District: | Sculcoates |
| County: | East Riding of Yorkshire |
| Volume: | 9d |
| Page: | 185 (click to see others on page) |
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| View Record | Ellen Goulding | abt 1860 | Thorne, Yorkshire, England | Wife | 29 Albion R, Ardsley, Yorkshire, England | |
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| View Record | Ellen Goulding | abt 1863 | Ardsley, Yorkshire, England | Daughter | Hunningley Lane, Ardsley, Yorkshire, England | |
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| View Record | Ellen Goulding | abt 1851 | Barnsley, Yorkshire, England | Wife | 147 Marine Row, Barnsley, Yorkshire, England | |
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| View Record | Ellen Goulding | abt 1880 | Denaby, Yorkshire, England | Daughter | New Buildings 35, Denaby, Yorkshire, England | |
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| View Record | Ellen Goulding | abt 1878 | Hull, Yorkshire, England | Granddaughter | 10 Linwood Terrace, Sutton & Stoneferry, Yorkshire, England | |
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| View Record | Florence Ellen Goulding | abt 1876 | Rawmarsh, Yorkshire, England | Daughter | 7 Arthur Place, Rawmarsh, Yorkshire, England | |
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1891 England Census
Ellen Goulding born abt 1878 Hull, Yorkshire, England Daughter Sutton [with Stoneferry] Yorkshire
1901 Census, 4 Sutton Terrace, Kingston upon Hull, Studley L (lane?) , Yorkshire
Ellen Matsell (indexed by Ancestry.com as Ellen Makell); living alone in 2 rooms, married, wife, age 23, born Hull
1881 Census, 15 Ellis Terrace, Southcoates, Kingston-upon-Hull, Yorkshire
Berry Matsell, Head, Married, age 39, Dock Labourer, born East Barsham, Norfolk
Susan Matsell, Wife, Married, age 41, born Little Snorin, Norfolk
Polly Matsell, Dau, Unm, age 20, Domestic Servant, born Little Snorin, Norfolk
Jack Matsell, Son, age 8, Scholar, born South Easton, Yorkshire
George Matsell, Son, age 2, born Hull (note, indexed by Ancestry.com as Gerry Matsell)
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| View Record | Berry Matsell | abt 1839 | E Barsham, Norfolk, England | Head | Eston | Yorkshire | |
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| View Record | Polly Matsell | abt 1861 |
| Little Snoring, Norfolk, England | Daughter | Eston | Yorkshire | |
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| View Record | Susan Matsell | abt 1839 | Little Snoring, Norfolk, England | Wife | Eston | Yorkshire | |
| View Record | Susan Matsell | abt 1870 | East Barsham, Norfolk, England | Daughter | Eston | Yorkshire | |
1891 Census
| View Record | Matsell, Berry | abt 1834 | Barham, Norfolk, England | Head | Southcoates | Yorkshire |
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| View Record | Matsell, Sushannah | abt 1840 | Barham, Norfolk, England | Wife | Southcoates | Yorkshire |
| BAILLEUL COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION (NORD) |
Presumably, George was alreay a young merchant seaman by 1891, hence, not on the census for that year or 1901.
Renia
ann atkinson wrote:
Can anyone help me. I am researching my greatgrandad George Matsell who was a Merchant Seaman in 1900, but Joined the army in 1914 and died in Somme, France in 1915. I cannot find him on the 1891 Census when he would have been abt 11yrs old or on the 1901 Census. George Matsell was born 1879 in Hull, East Yorkshire, England. Family stories say: that he sailed with Shackleton. I cannot find any Crew Lists with him on. .
Ann Atkinson
Oct 11, 2005, 3:45:27 AM10/11/05
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Thank you for your help I will keep looking
AnnAtkinson
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Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 20:21:39 +0000
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