Calling all Jones'

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pedr4u

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Jul 8, 2007, 10:39:07 PM7/8/07

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Hi all my name is Pedr Jones and I currently reside in New South
Wales, australia. My great grandfather, Evan Jones immigrated to
Australia in the late ninteenth century from Abergwilli in southern
Wales. His parents were John and Mary Jones and Evan was one of
eleven children I believe. I would love to hear from anyone who has
either a family connection or indeed a welsh connection. I believe
Evan spoke welsh fluently and I would love to learn my ancestral
language.
cheers
Pedr

Hugh Watkins

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Jul 9, 2007, 6:00:22 AM7/9/07

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please add dates to the posting
or a sample of your ancestors whole household in the welsh census of
say 1881 with address and occupations

Jones the baker or Jones the Post or Jones White Cliff Farm?
as in Wales nicknames based on occuaptions, residence , appearance are
an essential part of sorting out all the johnn Jones who married a
Mary Jones

Becauise I posted a couple gedcom to World Connect and one to genes Reunited
two Australian descendents of Jones the grocer / chemist / brick ysrd
owner of Raglan have contacted me as a new cousin

the other important contact point is the Rootsweb county list and to a
lesser extent notice boards

then there are local newspapers

a quicj google shows you are using an archaic or non standard spelling

West Glamorgan Archive Service - What archives are available?
... all situated in Abergwilly [Abergwilli] parish, Carmarthenshire.

ABERGWILI

Parish based
sketch map
of the
hundred

"ABERGUILLY (ABER-GWILI), a parish, in the union of CARMARTHEN,
higher division of the hundred of ELVET . . 2 miles (E. by N.) from
Carmarthen, on the road toLlandilo-Vawr; containing 2366 inhabitants.
. . The village is pleasantly situated, and the meadows in the
neighbourhood are watered by the rivers Towy and Guilly, over which
last is a neat substantial stone bridge of three arches. The parish
abounds with roofing slate of excellent quality, of which there are
two quarries at present open, affording employment toabout fifty
persons . . . The living is a discharged vicarage . . . The church,
dedicated to St Maurice, and situated near the bank of the Towy, was
made collegiate by Dr Beck, Bishop of St David's, in 1287, for
twenty-two prebendaries, four priests, four choristers, and two
clerks. . . .The church is a neat plain building, consisting of two
aisles, without either tower or steeple . . . At
Llanvihangel-uwch-Guilly is a chapel, formerly a chapel of ease . . .
There are places of worship for Baptists, Independents, and
Methodists. A school is endowed with £6 per annum, arising from a
bequest of Griffith Lloyd in 1713, for the instruction of 12 children,
and in which 50 other children are taught at the expense of their
parents. . . There are also three other schools supported by weekly
payments from the children, in number about 90; and eight Sunday
schools . . ." [From A Topographical Dictionary of Wales (S. Lewis,
1844).]

Carmarthenshire County Council - Abergwili
The resident population of Abergwili, as measured in the 2001 Census,
was 2271 of which 49% were male and 51% were female.

which is the current administrative spelling in english

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&newwindow=1&q=ABERGWILI++welsh+english+place+names&btnG=Search

will take you into cattle droving

http://www.dyfedfhs.org.uk/dplaces.htm

see also
http://www.dyfedfhs.org.uk/ for local knowledge

finally
http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/learnwelsh/

and google fopr welsh dictonaries

try and learn the language as sounds first like a small child
the natural method
at least a thousand words

about 2000 words is enought for a tourist in any language

then reading
upto 15 000 words is a normal working vocabulary of an adult

and finally writing and perfecting grammar

good luck