SingNet's bandwidth
Low Ee Mien
75 Mbps of bandwidth - with satellite access thrown
in as well.
The point to note is, not too long ago, they had
14 Mbps, and then 30 Mbps, and now it's 75 Mbps.
My question is - given the above developments, and
in view of improving the quality of services for its
users, both existing and future customers, is SCV going
to offer a similar kind of quantum jump in line capacity
in the future?
Low Ee Mien
NTU/SAS/CE
Singapore
Kan Tat Wee
>14 Mbps, and then 30 Mbps, and now it's 75 Mbps.
Note that the 75 Mbps is to US alone only.
That is not Singnet total internet bandwidth.
>My question is - given the above developments, and
>in view of improving the quality of services for its
>users, both existing and future customers, is SCV going
>to offer a similar kind of quantum jump in line capacity
>in the future?
I believe Cyberway is going to pull one 45 Mbps satallite link to US...if
Cyberway got that, then SCV may get more bandwidth.
I think Cyberway bandwidth is the most pathetic of all currently.
Eg)
Singnet - 75 Mbps
PI - 64 Mbps
Cyberway - 17 Mbps
Richard Neo
but with only 2 Mbps
Below is extracted from http://www.cyberway.com.sg/customer/cnotice.html
-------------Snip off--------------
"CyberWay will now receive an additional 2Mbps of traffic from the US, at
half the cost it would have taken to set up an equivalent link via land
lines. "What CyberWay can soon provide is more bandwidth, more efficiently,"
said CyberWay's General Manager, Cheah Cheng Poh. "With this new satellite
link, CyberWay's bandwidth from the US will be increased to 17Mbps. The
arrangement we have worked out also allows us to buy additional bandwidth to
the US in the future, at very attractive costs, all the way up to 45Mbps in
total."
This makes their total bandwidth to 19Mbps but deduct 4Mbps to SCV CM that
leaves Cyberway 14Mbps.
I wonder if SCV's CM could loan the internet lines from Singnet or Pacnet
rather then the miserable ones.
Just personal opinion. Please DO correct me if I am here or in anywhere have
wrong statistics.
Kan Tat Wee
>link, CyberWay's bandwidth from the US will be increased to 17Mbps. The
>arrangement we have worked out also allows us to buy additional bandwidth
to
>the US in the future, at very attractive costs, all the way up to 45Mbps in
>total."
How come 19 Mbps?
Initially it was 15, after the 2 Mbps satellite link, that makes total 17
Mbps. Read the above press release posted by yourself.
>This makes their total bandwidth to 19Mbps but deduct 4Mbps to SCV CM that
>leaves Cyberway 14Mbps.
>I wonder if SCV's CM could loan the internet lines from Singnet or Pacnet
>rather then the miserable ones.
Perhaps something can be work out, but I believe that will be after CM goes
commerical.
Anyway, anyone saw the Magix deal? $299 for the ADSL + ATM card...and it
cost $60 for 30 hrs of usage.
Richard Neo
Locksley
cannot reach CM's capacity sometimes even. And due to the high price of
Magix, I'm worried that when CM is officialy launched, the prices will be
very high too.....
Damian J's Chong
Cyberway. Why is it free? Cos' CyberWay, a joint venture company of
SPH and ST is affiliated to SCV, a four-member consortium of Singapore
International Media (SIM), ST, SPH and Media One is investing nearly
$500 million dollars on a Singapore-wide cable network that will herald
the arrival here of the "information superhighway". I vehemently object to
this claim of theirs!
What is the current bandwidth available to us btw? Richard says it's 4
Mbps? Where is the source of this info may I ask?
PS: I'm currently doing a foreign download @ Bedok at a excruciating
slow rate of 840 bytes per sec from www.memturbo.com.
From a commercial standpoint, CyberWay gain nothing from allocating
more bandwidth to us. I reckon they are "asked" to allocate bandwidth to
us.They might as well sign up more dial-up users to increase their revenue.
Besides, cable modem surfers' appetite for bandwidth is so notoriously
ferocious that we have "eaten" into the bandwidth for their customers.
On hindsight, I wished we had kept the loophole of being able to use
CyberWay's proxies to ourselves....*sigh*...no point crying over
lost proxies I guess......
And as for SCV, this cable modem business to them is a side-line
moonlighting half-past 6 thing which they "provide" to make use of the cable
network they have invested so much $$$ in. It ranks far below their core
business of providing cable TV programs cos' to them it's a dog NOT
a cash cow, hence they won't procure bandwidth from any ISP.
This will just add to their cost. Why would they do such a thing? For U?
They make $$$ from cable TV NOT cable modem.
So they happily just provide mediocre QoS if there's any in the 1st place.
And the $35/mth we pay to SCV....I don't think it goes to buying bandwidth or
equipment; they just wanna recoup their investment in their cable modem
infrastructure: servers, software,routers, labour,office rent, etc. How could any
investor expect to recoup his principal within such a short period of time???
In conclusion, I think the hope of any more bandwidth will remain just as it is.
Unless a miracle happens or the mastermind at SCV cable modem dept gets screwed.
SCV cable modem dept seem to be having trouble handling this cable modem
technology........
Damian
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Damian J's Chong
steven Leow
One should not be so short-sighted when doing business. Why do u give out
free gift during promotion? The famous example of how Zip drive is
practically sold at cost and the profit comes from the Zip disk them are one
very good example.
Beside, the Govt do subsidised some part of SCV cable venture if I am not
wrong.
I do predict another cable provider coming online after a couple of years.
If SCV do not capture the goodwill of it's trial user now and anchor
themselves firmly as the best cable alternative, it will face a very tough
time gaining what it will definitely lose.
Cable TV's potential not only lies in the Cable TV program themselves, but
on the infrastructure of cable itself. The undiscovered optimisation of
cable uses are the most desired part of cable TV network I belief.
Imagine the day when cable TV network serves as a virtual shopping network,
based not on the PC, but on the cable TV. By that I am not referring to the
MOG or Sellavision, but a combination of set-top box PC plus TV. Imagine
teleconferencing, again not based on the PC. All these services provide SCV
with revenues.
These are just one of the very few potential uses of cable network.
If SCV is going to be so myopic about the cable modem business, it might as
well just declare it. Let somebody else take it over now.
Damian J's Chong wrote in message <6vko0k$f4q$1...@newsie.singa.pore.net>...
S Singh Sandhu
the server you're downloading from probably can only handle that much...
Cyberway. Why is it free? Cos' CyberWay, a joint venture company of
SPH and ST is affiliated to SCV, a four-member consortium of Singapore
International Media (SIM), ST, SPH and Media One is investing nearly
$500 million dollars on a Singapore-wide cable network that will herald
the arrival here of the "information superhighway". I vehemently object to
this claim of theirs!
What is the current bandwidth available to us btw? Richard says it's 4
Mbps? Where is the source of this info may I ask?
PS: I'm currently doing a foreign download @ Bedok at a excruciating
slow rate of 840 bytes per sec from www.memturbo.com.
From a commercial standpoint, CyberWay gain nothing from allocating
more bandwidth to us. I reckon they are "asked" to allocate bandwidth to
us.They might as well sign up more dial-up users to increase their revenue.
Besides, cable modem surfers' appetite for bandwidth is so notoriously
ferocious that we have "eaten" into the bandwidth for their customers.
On hindsight, I wished we had kept the loophole of being able to use
CyberWay's proxies to ourselves....*sigh*...no point crying over
lost proxies I guess......
Damian J's Chong
Every user shares the bandwidth , it's not point to point 4 Mbps ... and the server you're downloading from probably can only handle that much...
By virtue of cable modem network's tree & branch topology, we all share the bandwidth. So there are 2 factors which will dictate how fast U can go:
1. No. of surfers and;
2. The international bandwidth.
Both of which are only known to SCV. If they want to accept more people onboard, they have to ensure there's sufficient bandwidth for each user's need. It all comes down to management, whether it's the bandwidth, the hardware, software and the people in SCV cable modem dept. I reckon it's a mismanaged organisation and the problem has its roots from the high echelons of the org.
Unless U are downloading from some FTP site running in some guy's home PC, u don get the kinda excruciating slow crawling speed that we're all experiencing now. Somehow they just don't know how to solve this issue, even CyberWay has 20 Mbps to spare.
If only U do a tracert, u will realise that there's a huge traffic congestion at Singtel's STIX and the time taken to reach STIX is growing! What is going on here??????
Arch8ngl
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> By virtue of cable modem network's tree & branch topology, we all share the bandwidth. So there are 2 factors which will dictate how fast U can go:
> 1. No. of surfers and;
> 2. The international bandwidth.
Whilst I agree largely with what you have said, I differ with the factors affecting bandwidth. The speed that each of us is able to get depends on (1) the number of segment on the network (2) how many people they put on each segment and (3) the total bandwidth they dedicate to the network. Only with these information, can we determine what the kind of bandwidth we can
consistently expect.
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Anwar
tom dick hairy who claims he knows everything but how the hell we know if
its true a not?? if we were to believe everything that some idiot posts on
the news server, we must well dun go sch......
Eugene Low
>Hey u think i care????? i just want more speed and not care about not any
>tom dick hairy who claims he knows everything but how the hell we know if
>its true a not?? if we were to believe everything that some idiot posts on
>the news server, we must well dun go sch......
Go wash your mouth Mr. Anwar. Nobody ask you to read this post and respond
to it if you don't care.
Anwar
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