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Jaco
It's a piece of half-baked crack-headed legislation that laymen would have an extremely poor understanding of.
At best what I/we may be able to contribute at the Auckland event is letting people build a firewall to at least provide a measure of protection (but still not 100% fool-proof).
Kind regards
- Jaco
Joel Wiramu Pauling
Showing them how to setup a VPN to an overseas proxy is unfortunately
the only good solution at this point.
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Tim McNamara
this area exists:
http://en.flossmanuals.net/bypassing-censorship/ch025_what-is-vpn/
http://en.flossmanuals.net/basic-internet-security/ch019_proxy-settings-and-foxyproxy/
Robin Paulson
> Not sure if a Firewall is of any use at all to this particular problem.
>
> Showing them how to setup a VPN to an overseas proxy is unfortunately
> the only good solution at this point.
writing to your MP or steven joyce, citing the UN human rights issues
around removing people's internet is probably the best thing to do at
the moment. a VPN doesn't solve anything
then attending the demonstration protesting the act in aotea sq on the
27th would be good
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robin
http://bumblepuppy.org/blog/?p=237 - government bill to remove basic
human rights in NZ
Joel Wiramu Pauling
Tabitha Roder
Is anyone able to talk or do a preso about the newly-introduced 3-Strikes/#SkyNet law?
It's a piece of half-baked crack-headed legislation that laymen would have an extremely poor understanding of.
Tabitha
Jaco
> writing to your MP or steven joyce, citing the UN human rights issues
> around removing people's internet is probably the best thing to do at
> the moment. a VPN doesn't solve anything
The insanity of this, including the UN case, was pointed out to the
minister did not make any difference whatsoever.
(the fact that this legislation was bought & paid for by overseas
parties was exposed & what did that help?)
Until his office or his household is *directly* affected by this, or
unless we can gather enough money to pay lobby-groups more than those
paid by the media-moguls, I seriously doubt anything is going to happen.
A VPN, if you can afford it, will solve a lot; it's a solution, a means
to an end.
The best we can do now (besides protesting & voicing or concerns) is
making the best of a bad situation.
Use the tools available to you & possibly develop some new solutions.
- Jaco
Robin Paulson
> Sorry, but I disagree.
>
> The insanity of this, including the UN case, was pointed out to the minister
> did not make any difference whatsoever.
it makes no differences because so few do it. and why do so few do it?
partly because people like you encourage everyone to sit there and do
nothing. are you going to stand up and fight, or accept what you're
given even if it's wrong? don't do anything, take what you're given.
don't try, you'll only fail. this stinks and is the cause, not the
solution
> (the fact that this legislation was bought & paid for by overseas parties
> was exposed & what did that help?)
>
> Until his office or his household is *directly* affected by this, or unless
> we can gather enough money to pay lobby-groups more than those paid by the
> media-moguls, I seriously doubt anything is going to happen.
there are more of us than there are of them
> A VPN, if you can afford it, will solve a lot; it's a solution, a means to
> an end.
hey don't try improving things, try this bit of technology instead!
F is for freedom
Robin Paulson
> around removing people's internet is probably the best thing to do at
> the moment. a VPN doesn't solve anything
All,
Writing to the MP in question will have an effect: this is how
democracy works, even the broken version we have. I would urge
everyone to do it.
Here is a link to the legislation:
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/bill/government/2010/0119/latest/whole.html?search=ts_bill_Copyright+%28Infringing+File+Sharing%29+Amendment+Bill_resel&p=1#tmpn1011a
and here is steven joyce's email:
s.j...@ministers.govt.nz
You may want to talk about some or all of these:
* The UN regards internet as a human right, as do several countries
such as Finland who have written access to it into law
* The law was achieved following lobbying from the US government and
media companies
* It assumes guilt, and requires the defendant to prove their
innocence. This is in direct opposition to how our entire juridical
system works. Innocence in this case is *very* difficult to prove.
* It criminalises a basic human behaviour carried out by a large slice
of the New Zealand public, that of sharing information, to protect the
profits of a very small number of people
Some more useful links:
about US involvement in the law:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1105/S00016/us-influence-over-copyright-law-undermines-our-democracy.htm
about internet as a human right:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10730748
Jaco
> it makes no differences because so few do it. and why do so few do it?
> partly because people like you encourage everyone to sit there and do
> nothing. are you going to stand up and fight, or accept what you're
> given even if it's wrong? don't do anything, take what you're given.
> don't try, you'll only fail. this stinks and is the cause, not the
> solution
>
realistic & do MORE than just that.
Expecting politico's to exercise some common sense simply because we
picket them to do so is foolhardy, IMO.
For all we know, Joice is on his way out, so upsetting the "sweaty
T-shirt brigade" (i.e. those that actually pay attention to these
things) is not going to entice them as much as large multi-national
lobbyists do.
Expecting those that hold power to *give* your Liberties to you has less
merit than taking control & responsibilities for your own freedoms
(without actually having to burn the whole place down).
Has anyone actually looked at The FredomBox?
http://freedomboxfoundation.org/
This is the sort of example I'm referring to.
- J