Re: restraint - and token acquisitoin/private buyouts...

[cl...@kanga.nu]

Of course, not getting to do everything you want is part of the game -- not all favorite strategies will work!  However I already made a token pricing proposal for this case:

    - When a public company buys a private company the public company:

        - Must pay a fee of $100 to the bank for each station it keeps
        from the private company.

            - If the original private owner was a different player, then
            $50 of the fee is paid to that player instead of to the bank.

        - Any stations kept from the private company must first come
        from any unplaced stations in the public company.

        - The total station count of the resulting company cannot be
        more than 50% over the default station allowance of the buying
        company.

        - The buying company must pay an additional fee of $100 per
        extra token kept over the station limit, paid to the bank.

        - Any discarded stations (public's or private's) are turned into
        blocking stations (same as usual).

So in that case your 20 share company could have bought both and kept the tokens (up to a total of 15), but at an additional cost ($300 of which may have gone to Shelby).  In short, yes, you could have done that but it would have been expensive but I think still within reason.

-- JCL (mobile)

-----Original Message-----
From: "dan...@barnescapital.com" <db1...@gmail.com>
To: J C Lawrence <cl...@kanga.nu>, Bruce Murphy <brucew...@gmail.com>, Shelby Noonan <sno...@tbearsiberians.com>, "Maurice.Wahl" <m-w...@gmx.de>
Sent: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 11:15
Subject: restraint - and token acquisitoin/private buyouts...

I made a very conscious decision to not buy an $800 7+ train in the OR or 2nd OR they ran...  I calculated maintenance of $160 + $250 + $800 cost of train would not be made up by revenues in 2ORs (expected revenues of ca...$700-$900 (public company, track still forming, not ability to buy private in due to token maximizing)....

complaint with the game - i should have been able to buy my private into my public company after I had bought Shelby's public.... then I would have had the routes to run that 7-train, but the token restriction of my 20 share company hindered me from acquiring my private until I had grown up to 50 shares, this delay was either 2 or 3ORs, huge!

suggestion - consider 18 toiken limit for acqisitions of private companies for all publics (10 share companies rarely have enough capital to do this)...

opens game up with "growing up" of crappy public's into aweesome publics much much faster - note, this "excess" token count would only apply to privates, so you can't buy your private, then buy a public, (or maybe all should be open, don't worry, people will still grow up because they need the capital!

[cl...@kanga.nu]

I'll also note quickly that the reason you couldn't run a 7+T well is because you sacrificed that option to play a dense leverage game instead.  That was a direct sacrifice of your choice to forgo long route development in favour of a capital game.  Everyone else could run 7+Ts just fine...(I ran London to North Wales, Shelby ran London to Scotland, etc).  Having your strategy also come with expensive sacrifices seems pretty reasonable.

More broadly, I strongly suspect that your approach would have been even stronger if you'd increased your issue size in the PR and then sold down in the SR and bought likely side-shares.  Basically played '39-style.  In my fiddling here, that's been very powerful.

-- JCL (mobile)

-----Original Message-----
From: "dan...@barnescapital.com" <db1...@gmail.com>
To: J C Lawrence <cl...@kanga.nu>, Bruce Murphy <brucew...@gmail.com>, Shelby Noonan <sno...@tbearsiberians.com>, "Maurice.Wahl" <m-w...@gmx.de>
Sent: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 11:15
Subject: restraint - and token acquisitoin/private buyouts...

[db1...@gmail.com]

within reason but,....

unduly complicated....

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[J C Lawrence]

Complicated?

$100 per station kept.

$50 to the prior owner if not you.

$100 (more) per station over allowance.


That seems pretty simple.

-- JCL

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[db1...@gmail.com]

yes, complicated.

Does that mean, $200 per token, total, for tokens over the limit?

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