William Rodriguez Defenders Needed
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Brian Good
Nov 16, 2007, 10:22:35 AM11/16/07
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On DemocraticUnderground there's been a series of threads:
William Rodriguez: Do any of the 15 people he rescued have names?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=179676&mesg_id=179676
William Rodriguez: Has anyone from FDNY corroborated his story?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=179674&mesg_id=179674
William Rodriguez: Can anyone explain the bizarre John Schroeder interview?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=180901&mesg_id=180901
William Rodriguez: Why Did He Keep the Magic Key?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=182085&mesg_id=182085
So is it Safe to Say that William Rodriguez is a Liar and a Fraud?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=183559&mesg_id=183559
These threads have had over 6000 reads and clueless readers there
won't defend Mr. Rodriguez. Can anybody help?
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William Rodriguez: Do any of the 15 people he rescued have names?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=179676&mesg_id=179676
William Rodriguez: Has anyone from FDNY corroborated his story?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=179674&mesg_id=179674
William Rodriguez: Can anyone explain the bizarre John Schroeder interview?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=180901&mesg_id=180901
William Rodriguez: Why Did He Keep the Magic Key?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=182085&mesg_id=182085
So is it Safe to Say that William Rodriguez is a Liar and a Fraud?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=183559&mesg_id=183559
These threads have had over 6000 reads and clueless readers there
won't defend Mr. Rodriguez. Can anybody help?
Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today!
cbrouillet
Nov 16, 2007, 10:47:13 AM11/16/07
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Brian,
If this is the best thing you can do with your time- attack William
Rodriguez- and waste everyones else's time trying to defend him- I
think you should retire from activism. You are doing little to
further the cause. Thank-you for not attending last night's meeting.
I hope you don't attend Janette's party cause I want to go to it.
Carol Brouillet
On Nov 16, 7:22 am, Brian Good <snug....@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On DemocraticUnderground there's been a series of threads:
>
> William Rodriguez: Do any of the 15 people he rescued have names?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> William Rodriguez: Has anyone from FDNY corroborated his story?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> William Rodriguez: Can anyone explain the bizarre John Schroeder interview?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> William Rodriguez: Why Did He Keep the Magic Key?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> So is it Safe to Say that William Rodriguez is a Liar and a Fraud?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
> Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today.http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGL...
If this is the best thing you can do with your time- attack William
Rodriguez- and waste everyones else's time trying to defend him- I
think you should retire from activism. You are doing little to
further the cause. Thank-you for not attending last night's meeting.
I hope you don't attend Janette's party cause I want to go to it.
Carol Brouillet
On Nov 16, 7:22 am, Brian Good <snug....@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On DemocraticUnderground there's been a series of threads:
>
>
> William Rodriguez: Has anyone from FDNY corroborated his story?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> William Rodriguez: Can anyone explain the bizarre John Schroeder interview?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> William Rodriguez: Why Did He Keep the Magic Key?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> So is it Safe to Say that William Rodriguez is a Liar and a Fraud?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> These threads have had over 6000 reads and clueless readers there
> won't defend Mr. Rodriguez. Can anybody help?
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> These threads have had over 6000 reads and clueless readers there
> won't defend Mr. Rodriguez. Can anybody help?
>
> Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today.http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGL...
Brian Good
Nov 16, 2007, 11:10:23 AM11/16/07
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Bravo, Carol, for posting that. I didn't think you would.
Defending William shouldn't take any time at all. Just provide names
of some of the fifteen (15) people he single-handedly rescued. Dr.
Barrett went on tour with William last spring. They were so busy
partying he didn't bother to check facts?
For some of us who were in Manhattan that day and knew people
involved, 9/11 is more than an excuse to bash Bush and have a party.
It's personal. When we stoop to fighting lies with lies, we perpetuate
the evils of this world order.
We're supposed to be about truth. We don't need lies or liars. The
right thing to do is to ask William to give the $1400 back so we can
return it to the people who gave it. Otherwise we are accessories
to fraud.
I warned you about William in September last year. You didn't want
to hear it. I've been a janitor in my younger years. It's a thankless,
dirty job, but somebody's got to do it. If you don't take out the trash
once in a while, it starts to stink up the place.
Brian
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:47:13 -0800
> Subject: SF911Truth: Re: William Rodriguez Defenders Needed
> From: cbrou...@gmail.com
> To: sf911...@googlegroups.com
Defending William shouldn't take any time at all. Just provide names
of some of the fifteen (15) people he single-handedly rescued. Dr.
Barrett went on tour with William last spring. They were so busy
partying he didn't bother to check facts?
For some of us who were in Manhattan that day and knew people
involved, 9/11 is more than an excuse to bash Bush and have a party.
It's personal. When we stoop to fighting lies with lies, we perpetuate
the evils of this world order.
We're supposed to be about truth. We don't need lies or liars. The
right thing to do is to ask William to give the $1400 back so we can
return it to the people who gave it. Otherwise we are accessories
to fraud.
I warned you about William in September last year. You didn't want
to hear it. I've been a janitor in my younger years. It's a thankless,
dirty job, but somebody's got to do it. If you don't take out the trash
once in a while, it starts to stink up the place.
Brian
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:47:13 -0800
> Subject: SF911Truth: Re: William Rodriguez Defenders Needed
> From: cbrou...@gmail.com
> To: sf911...@googlegroups.com
terry koch
Nov 16, 2007, 3:18:35 PM11/16/07
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Truthers:
Is it just me, or is this an issue that begs the larger question of how we should vet people who speak to, and for, the 9-11Truth movement? Could this disagreement have been avoided if William R.was presented but forced to take challenging questions from the audience or if the leaflet mentioned that there were still some issues?
It seems that the same legitimate issues raised by both Brian and Carol could be raised if
someone like Webster Tarpley (Kennibunkport Warning) was the guest, of if the dubious Part 1 of Zeitgeist was shown.
It's a shame to see two good, committed, honest people who we all respect having
such passion over this one issue.
With my limited, but growing, knowledge about the 9-11Truth movement, that's my 2 cents.
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cbrouillet
Nov 16, 2007, 9:20:05 PM11/16/07
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Frankly Brian,
I don't think your attacks on me, Kevin Barrett, and William Rodriguez
have anything to do with Kevin Barrett or William Rodriguez or
anything rational. The attacks have to do with Brian Good and Carol
Brouillet and are completely emotional. You have a crush on me and
erroneously hold delusions about me. You are being irrationally
jealous of Kevin and William. You cannot accept the fact that I am
happily married and refuse to allow you to TRY to cause trouble
between my husband and I. Because of your delusions, I cannot ever
feel "safe" in your presence alone, and would rather not see you
again, but you are so desperate for attention that you are doing
extremely negative, destructive things- attacking me and respected
members of the 9/11 Truth Movement to force me to pay attention to
you.
Please stop attacking Kevin, William and I. Do something useful-
attack the people who did 9/11, not the people who are putting so much
effort into exposing the lies and stopping them. Leave me alone- stop
the email attacks on me and others. I think it probably harms your
reputation more than mine, although it is horrifically embarrassing to
me to think that at one time I thought of you as a friend. Now I only
see you as a threat to me, my family, the Northern California 9/11
Truth Alliance and the 9/11 Truth Movement. I have zero confidence in
your judgement and rationality.
Carol brouillet
On Nov 16, 12:18 pm, terry koch <terryko...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Truthers:
> Is it just me, or is this an issue that begs the larger question of how we should vet people who speak to, and for, the 9-11Truth movement? Could this disagreement have been avoided if William R.was presented but forced to take challenging questions from the audience or if the leaflet mentioned that there were still some issues?
>
> It seems that the same legitimate issues raised by both Brian and Carol could be raised if
> someone like Webster Tarpley (Kennibunkport Warning) was the guest, of if the dubious Part 1 of Zeitgeist was shown.
>
> It's a shame to see two good, committed, honest people who we all respect having
> such passion over this one issue.
>
> With my limited, but growing, knowledge about the 9-11Truth movement, that's my 2 cents.
> Terry
> ////////////////////////////////////Brian Good <snug....@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } Bravo, Carol, for posting that. I didn't think you would.
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I don't think your attacks on me, Kevin Barrett, and William Rodriguez
have anything to do with Kevin Barrett or William Rodriguez or
anything rational. The attacks have to do with Brian Good and Carol
Brouillet and are completely emotional. You have a crush on me and
erroneously hold delusions about me. You are being irrationally
jealous of Kevin and William. You cannot accept the fact that I am
happily married and refuse to allow you to TRY to cause trouble
between my husband and I. Because of your delusions, I cannot ever
feel "safe" in your presence alone, and would rather not see you
again, but you are so desperate for attention that you are doing
extremely negative, destructive things- attacking me and respected
members of the 9/11 Truth Movement to force me to pay attention to
you.
Please stop attacking Kevin, William and I. Do something useful-
attack the people who did 9/11, not the people who are putting so much
effort into exposing the lies and stopping them. Leave me alone- stop
the email attacks on me and others. I think it probably harms your
reputation more than mine, although it is horrifically embarrassing to
me to think that at one time I thought of you as a friend. Now I only
see you as a threat to me, my family, the Northern California 9/11
Truth Alliance and the 9/11 Truth Movement. I have zero confidence in
your judgement and rationality.
Carol brouillet
On Nov 16, 12:18 pm, terry koch <terryko...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Truthers:
> Is it just me, or is this an issue that begs the larger question of how we should vet people who speak to, and for, the 9-11Truth movement? Could this disagreement have been avoided if William R.was presented but forced to take challenging questions from the audience or if the leaflet mentioned that there were still some issues?
>
> It seems that the same legitimate issues raised by both Brian and Carol could be raised if
> someone like Webster Tarpley (Kennibunkport Warning) was the guest, of if the dubious Part 1 of Zeitgeist was shown.
>
> It's a shame to see two good, committed, honest people who we all respect having
> such passion over this one issue.
>
> With my limited, but growing, knowledge about the 9-11Truth movement, that's my 2 cents.
> Terry
>
> .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } Bravo, Carol, for posting that. I didn't think you would.
>
> Defending William shouldn't take any time at all. Just provide names
> of some of the fifteen (15) people he single-handedly rescued. Dr.
> Barrett went on tour with William last spring. They were so busy
> partying he didn't bother to check facts?
>
> For some of us who were in Manhattan that day and knew people
> involved, 9/11 is more than an excuse to bash Bush and have a party.
> It's personal. When we stoop to fighting lies with lies, we perpetuate
> the evils of this world order.
>
> We're supposed to be about truth. We don't need lies or liars. The
> right thing to do is to ask William to give the $1400 back so we can
> return it to the people who gave it. Otherwise we are accessories
> to fraud.
>
> I warned you about William in September last year. You didn't want
> to hear it. I've been a janitor in my younger years. It's a thankless,
> dirty job, but somebody's got to do it. If you don't take out the trash
> once in a while, it starts to stink up the place.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:47:13 -0800
> > Subject: SF911Truth: Re: William Rodriguez Defenders Needed
> > From: cbrouil...@gmail.com
> Defending William shouldn't take any time at all. Just provide names
> of some of the fifteen (15) people he single-handedly rescued. Dr.
> Barrett went on tour with William last spring. They were so busy
> partying he didn't bother to check facts?
>
> For some of us who were in Manhattan that day and knew people
> involved, 9/11 is more than an excuse to bash Bush and have a party.
> It's personal. When we stoop to fighting lies with lies, we perpetuate
> the evils of this world order.
>
> We're supposed to be about truth. We don't need lies or liars. The
> right thing to do is to ask William to give the $1400 back so we can
> return it to the people who gave it. Otherwise we are accessories
> to fraud.
>
> I warned you about William in September last year. You didn't want
> to hear it. I've been a janitor in my younger years. It's a thankless,
> dirty job, but somebody's got to do it. If you don't take out the trash
> once in a while, it starts to stink up the place.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:47:13 -0800
> > Subject: SF911Truth: Re: William Rodriguez Defenders Needed
> > To: sf911...@googlegroups.com
>
> > Brian,
>
> > If this is the best thing you can do with your time- attack William
> > Rodriguez- and waste everyones else's time trying to defend him- I
> > think you should retire from activism. You are doing little to
> > further the cause. Thank-you for not attending last night's meeting.
> > I hope you don't attend Janette's party cause I want to go to it.
>
> > Carol Brouillet
>
> > On Nov 16, 7:22 am, Brian Good <snug....@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On DemocraticUnderground there's been a series of threads:
>
> > > William Rodriguez: Do any of the 15 people he rescued have names?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> > > William Rodriguez: Has anyone from FDNY corroborated his story?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> > > William Rodriguez: Can anyone explain the bizarre John Schroeder interview?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> > > William Rodriguez: Why Did He Keep the Magic Key?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> > > So is it Safe to Say that William Rodriguez is a Liar and a Fraud?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> > > These threads have had over 6000 reads and clueless readers there
> > > won't defend Mr. Rodriguez. Can anybody help?
>
> > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today.http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGL...
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> > Brian,
>
> > If this is the best thing you can do with your time- attack William
> > Rodriguez- and waste everyones else's time trying to defend him- I
> > think you should retire from activism. You are doing little to
> > further the cause. Thank-you for not attending last night's meeting.
> > I hope you don't attend Janette's party cause I want to go to it.
>
> > Carol Brouillet
>
> > On Nov 16, 7:22 am, Brian Good <snug....@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > On DemocraticUnderground there's been a series of threads:
>
> > > William Rodriguez: Do any of the 15 people he rescued have names?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> > > William Rodriguez: Has anyone from FDNY corroborated his story?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> > > William Rodriguez: Can anyone explain the bizarre John Schroeder interview?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> > > William Rodriguez: Why Did He Keep the Magic Key?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> > > So is it Safe to Say that William Rodriguez is a Liar and a Fraud?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> > > These threads have had over 6000 reads and clueless readers there
> > > won't defend Mr. Rodriguez. Can anybody help?
>
> > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today.http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGL...
>
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terry koch
Nov 18, 2007, 4:26:37 PM11/18/07
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Okay. Well...... I continue to learn about our delightfully human S.F.9-11 Truth group.
9-11Truthers have a healthy sense of humor about ourselves and our situation which helps us to overcome minor, wonderfully awkward moments and conflicts, which is why we are surely destined to crush the evil imperialist empire with the facts about 9-11. :>)
I hope that we will continue with ever-growing enthusiasm,understanding,energy and compassion for each other. I'm counting on you guys..........as a 9-11Truth newby, I don't want to miss my first Boston Tea Party slated for December in S.F..
Onward through the fog to victory! terry
///////////////////////////////////////////////
cbrouillet <cbrou...@gmail.com> wrote:
cbrouillet <cbrou...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 16, 12:18 pm, terry koch wrote:
> Truthers:
> Is it just me, or is this an issue that begs the larger question of how we should vet people who speak to, and for, the 9-11Truth movement? Could this disagreement have been avoided if William R.was presented but forced to take challenging questions from the audience or if the leaflet mentioned that there were still some issues?
>
> It seems that the same legitimate issues raised by both Brian and Carol could be raised if
> someone like Webster Tarpley (Kennibunkport Warning) was the guest, of if the dubious Part 1 of Zeitgeist was shown.
>
> It's a shame to see two good, committed, honest people who we all respect having
> such passion over this one issue.
>
> With my limited, but growing, knowledge about the 9-11Truth movement, that's my 2 cents.
> Terry
> > On Nov 16, 7:22 am, Brian Good wrote:
> > > On DemocraticUnderground there's been a series of threads:
>
> > > William Rodriguez: Do any of the 15 people he rescued have names?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> > > William Rodriguez: Has anyone from FDNY corroborated his story?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> > > William Rodriguez: Can anyone explain the bizarre John Schroeder interview?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> > > William Rodriguez: Why Did He Keep the Magic Key?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> > > So is it Safe to Say that William Rodriguez is a Liar and a Fraud?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg...
>
> > > These threads have had over 6000 reads and clueless readers there
> > > won't defend Mr. Rodriguez. Can anybody help?
>
> > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today.http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGL...
>
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