Bad news regarding Charlie Sheen

[Camille]

Bad news regarding Charlie Sheen.  ASPEN, Colo. – Charlie Sheen's wife told police the actor pinned her on a bed, put a knife to her throat and threatened to kill her in a Christmas Day fight in Aspen that began when she said she wanted a divorce. An arrest warrant affidavit released Monday quotes Brooke Mueller Sheen as saying that the actor straddled her on a bed with one hand grasping her neck and the other holding the knife. She said Sheen told her: "You better be in fear. If you tell anybody, I'll kill you.'' http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/743396--woman-who-called-911-says-she-is-charlie-sheen-s-wife

[sam soham]

Charlie Sheen is not David Ray Griffin or Steven Jones ...
so let them throw Sheen in jail and forget about him and his karma .
He never was much good to the 9/11 Truth Alliance anyway because of his controversial antics ...
Happy New Year everyone !!!

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[Victoria Ashley]

What's sad is that there are two young children involved, 9 months old.  Apparently she's willing to do counseling, so it's not clear how serious the whole thing is.  Too bad about it all though.

-- Vic

Charlie Sheen and Brooke Mueller headed for counseling

Nikki Nelson / WENN.com

Charlie Sheen and his wife Brooke Mueller are set for counseling sessions following a domestic dispute that landed the actor behind bars on Christmas.

Sheen was booked for investigation of second-degree assault, menacing and criminal mischief after allegedly fighting with his wife during their festive celebrations in Aspen, Colorado, where they were spending the holidays with their nine-month-old twin sons.

He was released on Friday and returned to Los Angeles, while Mueller remained in Aspen - but the couple is planning to undergo counseling together in the New Year.

The actor's attorney Richard Cummins tells People.com, "They have two children together and they love one another and they're going to work through what is a difficult time and they're going to do that together and as privately as possible."

A source tells the website that the troubled star will also begin an anger management course.

Meanwhile, Sheen's manager Mark Burg insists the couple has no plans to split, telling RadarOnline.com, "I have spoken to all parties concerned. There are no plans for divorce. They are both deeply upset about what happened and are trying to work things out amicably. They both want to get away from all the sensationalism surrounding what happened and quietly resolve things."

The actor wed Mueller in May 2008 following a messy divorce from his now ex-wife Denise Richards.

[David DiGiovanni]

But yeah, that kinda violence shouldn't be tolerated or supported. Hopefully he was drunk..... But, we don't really know these people, only what they show us.

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:24 AM, David DiGiovanni <ddigi...@gmail.com> wrote:

This is regarding his personal life and has nothing to do with the 9/11 Truth Movement.
So what? Doesn't Griffin advocate for a one-world government?
Isn't Steven Jones a Mormon?

Let their personal lives be their personal lives. That's my take.

On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:13 PM, sam soham <rwsand...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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[David DiGiovanni]

This is regarding his personal life and has nothing to do with the 9/11 Truth Movement.
So what? Doesn't Griffin advocate for a one-world government?
Isn't Steven Jones a Mormon?

Let their personal lives be their personal lives. That's my take.

On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:13 PM, sam soham <rwsand...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Randy McCosker]

I remember during the Q&A, here in the Bay Area after the showing of
one of his documentaries, that Dylan Avery was asked why it wasn't
narrated by Charlie Sheen, who Avery had indicated, in an earlier Bay
Area appearance, would soon be narrating his films. (I think this was
at Marin Community College, but it could've been a previous appearance
at the Grand Lake.)

Avery, as I recall, said he'd been unable to reach Sheen, that Sheen's
handlers were blocking his access to Sheen. Avery surmised that the
handlers thought 9/11 truth had the potential to damage Sheen's acting
career and consequently were keeping him away from 9/11 truth
publicists. (Though I couldn't help wondering at the time whether
Sheen himself had gotten cold feet around the 9/11 issue.)

And, at the 9/11 Film Festival this last September, Avery's latest was
shown, narrated by another famous actor, Daniel Sunjata. (Though, I
daresay, Sunjata isn't nearly as well known as Sheen, nor is Sunjata's
voice as recognizable.)

So I was surprised when, after that, Sheen came to all our attention
for reappearing on Alex Jones and publicizing a fantasized meeting
with Obama. (Problematic as that was for our cause.)

And now, already with a much-publicized reputation for drug
dependency, whoring, and volatile marriages, this latest business. The
difficulty, I believe, is public relations respecting Sheen's troubled
personal life. Of course the particulars are irrelevant to the
substance of 9/11 truth as an historical event, just as are Jones's
and Griffin's outside political and religious views -- so long as they
aren't the sort of thing that the Mockingbird media and the agents of
9/11 truth "debunking" can capitalize on. So far, world government --
the latter supported by the political and finance Establishment anyway
-- and mainline Mormonism aren't things the enemies of truth are
prepared to raise as issues. (Conversely, some things, such as
Holocaust revisionism, do have great potential to undermine 9/11 truth
public relations, which is why our movement does well to shy away from
its well-known proponents.)

On Dec 29, 11:24 am, David DiGiovanni <ddigiova...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is regarding his personal life and has nothing to do with the 9/11
> Truth Movement.
> So what? Doesn't Griffin advocate for a one-world government?
> Isn't Steven Jones a Mormon?
>
> Let their personal lives be their personal lives. That's my take.

> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:13 PM, sam soham <rwsandham2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Charlie Sheen is not David Ray Griffin or Steven Jones ...
> > so let them throw Sheen in jail and forget about him and his karma .
> > He never was much good to the 9/11 Truth Alliance anyway because of his
> > controversial antics ...
> > Happy New Year everyone !!!

> > --- On Mon, 12/28/09, Camille <camilles2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > From: Camille <camilles2...@yahoo.com>

> > > Subject: SF911Truth: Bad news regarding Charlie Sheen
> > > To: sf911...@googlegroups.com
> > > Date: Monday, December 28, 2009, 6:52 PM
> > > Bad news regarding Charlie Sheen.
> > > ASPEN,
> > > Colo. – Charlie Sheen's wife told police the actor
> > > pinned her on a bed, put a knife to her throat and
> > > threatened to kill her in a Christmas Day fight in Aspen
> > > that began when she said she wanted a divorce.An
> > > arrest warrant affidavit released Monday quotes Brooke
> > > Mueller Sheen as saying
> > >  that the actor straddled her on a bed with one hand
> > > grasping her neck and the other holding the knife. She said
> > > Sheen told her: "You better be in fear. If you tell
> > > anybody, I'll kill you.''
>

> >http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/743396--woman-who-called...

[sam soham]

They both were drunk so go figure ...
So what really is the truth ?
He said she said and in the final analysis his
high powered and high priced gets him off again .

--- On Tue, 12/29/09, David DiGiovanni <ddigi...@gmail.com> wrote:

[sam soham]

Funny that you mention One World Governance because there are other promenent people in the 9/11 truth movement who share that world view which is the P.N.A.C. Neo Con "The Grand Chess Board"
Zibinski- Rockefeller C.F.R. New World Order ,PAX Americana
Yogi Mahesh Maharishi's crowds wet dream .
Griffin and Jones have only helped the 9/11 truth movement ,
there is the difference for you ...

--- On Tue, 12/29/09, David DiGiovanni <ddigi...@gmail.com> wrote:

[sam soham]

I smell a 2 and a half men script here somewhere ... Any publicity is good publicity for these la la land ,nuvo riche ,no class ,low lifes ... See the www.whatdoesitmean.com story on the CIA"s recent enabling of this nutcase African  with the hot bang underwear . --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Victoria Ashley <victr...@gmail.com> wrote:

[sam soham]

Once again the difference is ; Sheen has done little to nothing for the 9/11 truth movement Griffin and Jones and Gage have done yeoman's work and are not morally compromised or of controversial character.
Regarding Holocaust revisionism asking questions and getting a clearer understanding of the Jewish Shoah (or sacrifice) as now known since the 1970's called Holocaust does not make one incredible .
The grandchildren of NAZI backers are observed collaborating together before after and during 9/11/2001 (you know the Strusian inspired
Neo Cons) like they did before the second world war ....
So why not reexamine the "Holocaust" if the Holocaust promoters have nothing to hid a through examination will only verify and support their promotion of systemic Jewish victimization if they are lying why are they lying ?
Maybe a possible reason could be a false flag or collaborative cooperative persecution to manipulate Jews and the world for their own country .
Research,investigate,question and stop drinking the sodium fluoride water.

--- On Tue, 12/29/09, Randy McCosker <mcfr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

[Dana Carson]

He hasn't been tried for anything. As far as I'm concerned, he's innocent until proven guilty. If proven guilty, that proves nothing about his ability to perceive and communicate issues about 9/11. It will only prove that he has moral failings, which won't be hard to believe, since he is something of a hot head. And I for one will suspect that the whole thing is a setup, using his known vulnerabilities. Remember what they did to Gary Hart, an obvious setup which he unfortunately cooperated with.

Tiger Woods may be a lousy husband. But he's still a great golfer.

DC

--- On Tue, 12/29/09, David DiGiovanni <ddigi...@gmail.com> wrote:

[sam soham]

Come on Dana... Sheen"s controversial antics aren't doing the
9/11 truth movement any good.
Guilty or not throw him under the bus...no make that a train !
This thoughtless self centered shmuck loaded with liabilities !
Happy New Year !?

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, Dana Carson <danaw...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[netw...@aol.com]

Yes, the news about Charlie Sheen's latest angry outburst is very sad.

Yes, it does damage his credibility and the credibility of anything he's connected to.

No, we don't throw him under the bus, we just don't present him as a spokesman for 9/11 truth (I never did, anyway, due to his long history of instability.  His father is a far better asset to the movement, imo).

Charlie Sheen, like all of us, is a human being and thus imperfect and irrational.  Everyone has had rough patches in their life and not always behaved well, some more than others and some of us really lose it at times.  Most of us are fortunate in that we don't have a pack of paparazzi posed to pounce when we have problems.

Charlie Sheen is a troubled brother who needs to be loved like all of us do.  No more, no less.

The issue of 9/11 truth and the 9/11 truth movement does not rise or fall with any one person or event. 

When someone noteworthy, whether it is an actor, a scholar or a political figure; makes a bad choice or steps back from 9/11 truth for whatever reason, we should make a quiet note to ourselves and move on with our primary mission, which remains educating the public.

How many people still have not seen the video of WTC 7 going down?

How many people still have never heard of Ali Mohamed?

How many people still have not seen Norman Minetta's CSPAN testimony before the 9/11 Commission?

(This list is nearly endless, btw)

We still have a long road ahead of us, and the detour through Mr. Obama's false land of "hope and change" needs to be skillfully leveraged to help accelerate our movement through the tipping point to critical mass, when the real fun  begins in earnest.

Always remember that we need to elevate ourselves and our discourse in the American and international political milieu, we are calm, compassionate truth seekers, we balance rigorous empiricism with unconditional love. 

Following in the footsteps of Gandhi and MLK Jr., we love our adversaries while we create the change that empowers all and builds the world we want to live in.

I hope that you and yours are all well.

Love is a verb, brothers and sisters, let's get busier!

I look forward to working with you all in the new year,

John

[Dana Carson]

Very well said, John. I for one will not back away from supporting Sheen's status as a truth-seeker. I will not let them take away the people I admire just because they have characteristics I don't admire. If ever confronted about Sheen, I'll gladly say, "Yes it's unfortunate that he hasn't gotten his personal life together, but what he says about 9/11 is still true." No problem.

Now to Michael Shermer: What shall we say about his latest rant of illogical idiocy? Does anyone know how to place a comment on his website? Addressing his wanton stupidity seems more important to me than whether we defend Charlie Sheen or throw him "under the Bus".

Any suggestions? If this is unfamiliar, see 911Blogger.com.

Dana

--- On Thu, 12/31/09, netw...@aol.com <netw...@aol.com> wrote:

[vas...@aol.com]

An excellent and uplifting statement about Charlie Sheen! Thank you, John!
A Happy & Effective New Year to All!
Vic Sadot
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[Dana Carson]

Yes, He's a hot head. No, I won't throw him under the bus.

--- On Thu, 12/31/09, sam soham <rwsand...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: sam soham <rwsand...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: SF911Truth: There is no Good News now about Charlie Sheen for 9/11 truth

[David DiGiovanni]

If we're going to talk about Sheen "harming" the 9/11 truth movement, then let's talk about Alex Jones.

[TomL...@gmail.com]

Wait, aren't we supposed to blame and fame people? Isn't that perspective the one that is at the heart of those who blew up the buildings? Mr. Jones cherry picking information and ignoring a great deal more to push not being concerned about carbon dioxide release, aren't we supposed to accept that as unquestionable? Carbon dioxide doesn't make any difference, right? It must be just some bad guys trying to rule our lives, right? We can't think our tools are at fault for corrupting people and allowing them positions of authority, right? Amerigo is unquestionable and we must strive to protect its sovereignty, right? No need to seek a different way to organize, right? In the long run, might makes right, right? All we need to do is find the ones we label heroes and the ones we label as the evildoers and seek to laud the heroes and kill the bad guys and then everything will be fine, right?

T.

[sam soham]

So start talking about Alex Jones and while you are at it start talking about there are no questions to ask about the "Jewish victimization" first known as the "Shoah" now now as the "Holocaust" Iam all eyes & ears David.

--- On Thu, 12/31/09, David DiGiovanni <ddigi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: David DiGiovanni <ddigi...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: SF911Truth: There is no Good News now about Charlie Sheen for 9/11 truth
> To: sf911...@googlegroups.com

[David DiGiovanni]

I don't know exactly what you are getting at.
Beliefs should be proportioned according to the evidence.
Critical thinking and sound reasoning should be the basis for the investigation of any issue, regardless of how "taboo" it is.