[OT] I'm gonna go ahead and call this the NYC sister-route of the Butterlap

[Matthew Hiller]

https://www.strava.com/activities/4695067533

I suppose the one bit that's really not so buttery is the 3 sets of stairs on the Wards Island->Queens segment of the Triborough Bridge, but such is life.

Maybe one might make an argument that it's more cheddary to go over to the Brooklyn Bridge to get back to Manhattan, going up the Hudson River Greenway to 59th Street, and approaching Central Park for the final (single) lap there from W 72nd Street or from the Tavern-on-the-Green entrance at W 67th Street. This assumes doing the route early morning, in cold, or otherwise at a period of low census on the Brooklyn Bridge, though.

[Aaron Chen]

I think a nicer city lap would be from your starting point down the greenway -> Brooklyn bridge -> up the waterfront to queens -> Pulaski bridge -> qboro bridge  -> up 1st and then cut over to the park and  back to your starting point. 

Technically you’re not supposed to bike the triborough. You’re supposed to dismount and walk that 1 mile bridge. I’ve never been ticketed on there but I have heard that it happens

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[Matthew Hiller]

I think the Queens waterfront & northwest-Brooklyn waterfront bits flow a lot better southbound than north. And the Pulaski route is way less adventuresome than the Kosziuscko. :) Besides, the Pulaski is near-impossible to approach efficiently/ride away from efficiently on the Queens side. It's a bit hard to maintain good flow through Greenpoint too, Driggs across to McCarren Park was actually really good that way.

You are spot-on about the Triborough paths being technically-walk-only, but enforcement of this is very spotty. I haven't actually heard of any at all since the pandemic came down.

[Matthew Hiller]

By the way, I've been playing with tweaks and variations of this, and I think this is _pretty much_ the canonical way to do this ride:

https://www.strava.com/activities/5317437287

Though in Dumbo I had to dodge around some construction vehicle slowdowns.

Anyway, this bags *4* boroughs rather than 3 (by touching a toe into Mott Haven). It does indeed use the Bk Bridge and Hudson River Greenway rather than 1st ave. It also adds a jaunt to the northern bikeable limit of the Queens waterfront near the outset, and in the wind-down it finds a buttery way past the Manhattan/Bk Bridge landing area to get down to Atlantic Ave, then back up. It uses the stairs approach to the Bk Bridge on the Bk side rather than the plaza approach; I've found that one tends to wait at the traffic lights on Tillary for an unbuttery length of time if so.

So, sf2g riders, if you find yourself in NYC some time, HMU and I'll ride this with you. :-)