Lassen Volcanic National Park Burning

[Peter Natscher]

Lassen is being overtaken by the monstrous Dixie Fire.  Looks like the camp sites at Summit Lake South that we used to camp in during our observing trips has caught fire.  The fire is also approaching Bumpass. Really heart breaking!

https://www.nps.gov/lavo/learn/photosmultimedia/webcams.htm

[David Cooper]

It really is heart breaking to see this happening to such a lovely park.  Below is the current webcam image from the southern entrance to the park looking north.  Really sad.

On Tuesday, August 17, 2021, 08:14:59 AM PDT, Peter Natscher <nats...@redshift.com> wrote:

Lassen is being overtaken by the monstrous Dixie Fire.  Looks like the camp sites at Summit Lake South that we used to camp in during our observing trips has caught fire.  The fire is also approaching Bumpass. Really heart breaking!

https://www.nps.gov/lavo/learn/photosmultimedia/webcams.htm

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[Richard]

Where did you find info on Summit lake south campground being on fire? If that campground is burning, half the park must be on fire or already burned.

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On Aug 17, 2021, at 8:22 AM, Peter Natscher <nats...@redshift.com> wrote:



Lassen is being overtaken by the monstrous Dixie Fire.  Looks like the camp sites at Summit Lake South that we used to camp in during our observing trips has caught fire.  The fire is also approaching Bumpass. Really heart breaking!

https://www.nps.gov/lavo/learn/photosmultimedia/webcams.htm

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[Richard]

Ok. As far as I can tell the fire is well to the east of summit lakes and is NOT burning the campgrounds.

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On Aug 17, 2021, at 8:55 AM, Richard <richa...@aol.com> wrote:

Where did you find info on Summit lake south campground being on fire? If that campground is burning, half the park must be on fire or already burned.

[Peter Natscher]

AirNow.com shows active fire areas in it's smoke coverage maps. Looks like the fire area is advancing NW into the Park and is now only one mile from Summit Lake.

https://fire.airnow.gov/?lat=37.7576497&lng=-122.4353884&zoom=10#

[Karen Bieber]

I use this one. Although it can be a little delayed in updates. 

https://maps.nwcg.gov/sa/#/%3F/%3F/40.4683/-121.4255/12

Karen

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AirNow.com shows active fire areas in it's smoke coverage maps. Looks like the fire area is advancing NW into the Park and is now only one mile from Summit Lake.

https://fire.airnow.gov/?lat=37.7576497&lng=-122.4353884&zoom=10#

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[Richard Ozer]

This is awful.

On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 8:14 AM Peter Natscher <nats...@redshift.com> wrote:

Lassen is being overtaken by the monstrous Dixie Fire.  Looks like the camp sites at Summit Lake South that we used to camp in during our observing trips has caught fire.  The fire is also approaching Bumpass. Really heart breaking!

https://www.nps.gov/lavo/learn/photosmultimedia/webcams.htm

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[Tim Lorz]

I just found the vertically integrated smoke map from the NOAA... it makes me hopeful for the Bay Area coast, but of course there we have fog and other humidity related issues.

https://hwp-viz.gsd.esrl.noaa.gov/smoke/

Tim

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[Peter Santangeli]

It's a real gut-punch for those of us that have spent so many nights at Lassen. 😢

pete

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[Peter Natscher]

This cam shot is not current but Monday's taken at 15:00 hrs (3pm).  The fire has advanced over the road and up to Bumpass since then.

[Easswar]

I have camping reservations there in 3 weeks. I guess washed out is not the right phrase to use here 😔

Easswar

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[Richard]

The fire now includes Summit Lake. 😢

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[Richard]

Better image.

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On Aug 17, 2021, at 1:31 PM, Richard <richa...@aol.com> wrote:

The fire now includes Summit Lake. 😢

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[Peter Natscher]

I can't imagine Summit Lake being burned.

[Richard]

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I can't imagine Summit Lake being burned.

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[Richard]

Just like the Jim Croce song. All we’ll have is Photographs and Memories. It will all grow back, but it won’t be the same in our lifetimes.

Richard

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[Ted Hauter]

Unfortunately out of eventual fire is new life: another forest, long from now...

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[John Pierce]

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Unfortunately out of eventual fire is new life: another forest, long from now...

phew, in this afternoon's MODIS, you can see last year's CZU fire, west of Boulder Creek...    https://go.nasa.gov/3gc8zWk

zoom out some, and eeeeek.   https://go.nasa.gov/3gc0tgw

[ma...@astrospotter.com]

It's a bummer for sure.   Whenever I went up there for Astronomy I was very excited about spending the days doing daytime photography.  What an wonderful and magical park.     At least we enjoyed it prior to the burning.     

I have quite a few really nice photos, some of which are 5-7 frame composites which I made into 4 foot long posters and so on.   If you wish to view Lassen as it 'was'   go to this site in Nature Scenes on mark-pics.com and the main photo is in fact Lassen.  You will see  18 or so Yosemite so scroll by or look then a few Point lobos but then Lassen starts with the super widefield pic of Lake Helen and the next 7 or so are Lassen.   The really wide ones are super high quality 5-7 frame panoramas that I really love but way too small for this web presentation. I used to line my office with these made from ePingo.com.   Anyway, Notice I have Lake Helen in summer and iced over that was really cool ( in more than one way! ).   

As far as a pic from Devastated here is the milky way 'erupting' from Mt Lassen

[Matt Tarlach]

I'm watching this too. So sad. I was just on the Lassen website a couple of weeks ago, planning a visit. One of my favorite places, anywhere.

It's a natural process that renews the ecosystem, but when it's someplace with personal meaning - where I've taken firends and family visiting from across the country and overseas to show the best of California - it's tough.

I read that the Manzanita Lake area is believed to be safe, for now, and I think topography may steer the fire away from Devastated Area and points north. I hope so.

The southern gateway town of Mineral is under evacuation order. My wife and I stayed in a cabin there one year during the old Lassen Star Party. I hope the people there and their cute little cabin resort come through ok.

Matt T

[John Pierce]

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I'm watching this too. So sad. I was just on the Lassen website a couple of weeks ago, planning a visit. One of my favorite places, anywhere.

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indeed, Summit Lake South campground, 2013

 

[Peter Santangeli]

July 2016.

It's heartbreaking.

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[Vishal Kasliwal]

Very sad... When will this all stop and what will it take to make people wake up to the threat? I feel especially bad for all the poor plants and animals that won't know about the fire until it is right there - they didn't ask for any of this.

Vishal

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Lassen is being overtaken by the monstrous Dixie Fire.  Looks like the camp sites at Summit Lake South that we used to camp in during our observing trips has caught fire.  The fire is also approaching Bumpass. Really heart breaking!

https://www.nps.gov/lavo/learn/photosmultimedia/webcams.htm

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[Jay Freeman]

The first prediction that carbon dioxide released by human activity would cause global warming was made in 1896, by Svante Arrhenius, and solid data about what is happening has been around since the 1960s. ThusI think it can be said that people have been rather sleepy about human-made climate change and its consequences: The particular issue here is, of course, that dry conditions and high heat foster wildfires.

I first learned about the problem in 1962, in a high-school chemistry class -- the teacher told us about one of the papers reporting increasing carbon dioxide levels measured on mountain peaks in Hawaii. I remember thinking "This is one the grown-ups will have to deal with." Now, 59 years later, there still seems to be an insufficiency of grown-ups.

I too have fond memories of Lassen star parties.

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[Ted Hauter]

The 2014 Pineapple Express was the last California storm. Major flooding elsewhere... maybe somebody can figure it out and bring rain.

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[Matt Tarlach]

FWIW, the plot of the Dixie fire on Google Maps is more pessimistic than the CalFire and USFS fire maps. As of this morning the latter show the fire held east of Hwy 89 through the southern part of the park, and not reaching Summit Lake or Mill Creek Resort.

Still a long way to go but we can still hope for those spots, at least.

Matt T

[Peter Natscher]

https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Lassen-volcanic-national-park-fire-dixie-morgan-16396213.php

[Richard Navarrete]

I read that article yesterday, so terrible.  Interestingly, today’s fire map does not show Summit Lake to be in the fire’s path as it did yesterday. Kinda weird.

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[Richard Navarrete]

Poorly worded. Summit Lake is in the fires path, but yesterday the map showed it actually on fire.

Richard

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I read that article yesterday, so terrible.  Interestingly, today’s fire map does not show Summit Lake to be in the fire’s path as it did yesterday. Kinda weird.

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[Tarun Kottary]

Pics posted in this thread were from controlled burn as a preventive measure. There was a note on the FB page of Lassen NP regarding this.

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[Karen Bieber]

It’s interesting to watch flightradar24.  https://www.flightradar24.com/N623PD/28d74fb7

Looks like Lassen is getting some attention.  

-Karen

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[John Pierce]

hmmm, N623PD is owned by a helicopter service company.  Its an Airbus/AStar 350 B3, 5 passenger.  I do see the leasing service, Coastal Helicopters based on La Vern, leases to USFS among other agencies.

https://coastalcopters.com/as350b3e-astar/

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[Peter Natscher]

Some more up-to-date Lassen Park fire news:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b-pXrI5WxI

https://www.facebook.com/pg/LassenNPS/posts/

[Peter Natscher]

The Dixie Fire is entering the Summit Lake area.

[Steve Gottlieb]

Latest article in the Chronicle: Nearly half of Lassen Volcanic National Park burns in Dixie Fire

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The Dixie Fire is entering the Summit Lake area.

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[ma...@astrospotter.com]

I am going to say something that will point out that my selfish side sometimes 'speaks out loud'.  

If the large tree at the south side of the Bumpass Hell parking lot burned down, my mourning period for THAT tree would be ...  'short'.

On the serious side.   DANG!   That Dixie fire SUCKS!.       CRAP.     Ok, sorry but this is really really bad!

Marko

[Jeff Crilly]

Ominous…

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[John Pierce]

 let me just say this about that.

 it /will/ grow back.  it will take a few years.  it will never be the same as it was, but it will be what it is.

[Peter Natscher]

Not in our lifetimes and depending on the continued long western term mega-drought and who knows what for a climate change. The big trees are gone at their ages of 60-100 years.

[Peter Natscher]

On the Park's main road between Devastated Area and Summit Lake there's a sizable destroyed area of park land left from the large Reading Fire in 2012. It's been ten years and this area has only grown scrub.