Is this amazing app dead?

[Jimmy]

Hi all,

It seems the dev is no longer responding to posts here. It seems the website is down. It seems the app does not function properly with ICS.

Is this app dead and unsupported?

That would be sad, as this is one of my most important apps. I will be getting a new Galaxy S III, and fear this app will no longer work.

If that is the case, what alternatives do people recommend?

[rcbjr2]

I'm beginning to think so. I asked about updates a couple months ago and didn't get a response. Prior posts indicated that updates would be coming every quarter, but we haven't seen anything since January, I believe. It's too bad because this app has been great. I did find a possible alternative, though. I was poking around in Google Play and ran across Profile Scheduler. It seems to be very similar (and not as complicated as Tasker, which also is an option). Link to Profile Scheduler:  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wetpalm.ProfileScheduler&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd. Of course, there seem to be a hundred of these types of programs available in Google Play. The problem is finding the best alternative to Setting Profiles. If anyone figures it out, please let us all know! ;-) thx.

[wekebu]

I couldn't get this app to recognize GPS reliably so I uninstalled it.

An app that has much promise is on{X} from Microsoft (yes, they released it for Android only, go figure!)   It works for me all the time, but my needs are few.

website:  www.onx.ms

Here is their market with listing of premade recipes:  http://onxmarket.com/

[rcbjr2]

I looked at on{x}, but don't really like the look and feel. ;-) The name isn't the best, either, with the curly brackets in it, either. ;-) What I like the most about SP is that I can do and/or conditions and it has a widget that allows me to quickly pick profiles and turn them on for a specified time period. If I have to get a replacement for SP, that's what I'll be looking for.

 

When you said that Profile Scheduler didn't recognize GPS, how are you using it with GPS? The only time I use SP with GPS is to have SP turn it on (and I had to turn on the option to let it do that as SP indicates that Google did something with GPS and it might not work in all situations, but it seems to be working fine for me). 

 

I don't have ICS yet, either. It hasn't been released yet to the Droid Razr Maxx. Does SP not work at all with ICS, or just some aspects of it?

 

Thx. 

[wekebu]

The function I want, is to lock my phone when I leave home.  I work from home, so I'm here most of the time. Using a schedule wouldn't apply for me. When I used SP to watch my GPS coords and either lock the phone or remind me to lock the phone, it didn't work reliably.  I tried using cell coords, but there's only one cell tower where I live, and it never worked at all. 

Using on{x} to watch my gps hasn't failed yet. I'm on an original EVO, no ICS either.  Droid Razr Maxx = nice phone.

[Jimmy]

I have read a number of posts and reviews that say the schedules don't work when the phone is asleep.

I, too, use SP for scheduled profiles. I also use it to silence my phone automatically when a meeting is scheduled on my calendar. Those two uses will be able to be replicated with other apps. The widget to manually set a profile for a defined period of time is a feature I haven't seen anywhere else yet. I'm wondering if I will be able to continue to use SP for that and use another app for the schedules.

It's still too bad this app seems to be unsupported now.

[Steve Rothkin]

I've been using SP for a few years, first on the Droid, now on the
Thunderbolt. Schedules have always worked fine for me, even when the
phone is asleep. For example, I have it automatically rebooting in the
middle of the night.

Maybe some of the people it isn't working for are using a task killer
that stops SP from running when the phone is asleep.

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[James]

Steve,

It seems to be people using it with ICS. I'm still on Gingerbread on a Droid X2 and don't have any problems.

I came back here looking again because I have a Galaxy SIII on order, and that's when I began reading the reviews indicating that there are issues with SP when running ICS. I'm still going to give it a try, but I'm not hopeful. And there doesn't appear any response from the devs any more either.

[rcbjr2]

I was perusing offerings in Google Play this a.m. and saw at least one profile app that seemed to allow setting profiles for a time period. It even had a slider bar to pick a custom time. However, I looked at so many of them, that I now can't recall what it is. I also saw one that supposedly supports and/or logic, but now can't find it again. It's a bit tough trying to sift through these on the phone. I might have to look at google play online.

[rcbjr2]

I found an app that appears to allow and/or logic for the rules, Toggle Settings|Profiles Lite. However, it hasn't been updated since Feb '11 and when I looked in the Google Groups for the app, it appears that the developer is deceased, so I don't think we want to download an app that is no longer being developed. I find it strange that the app is still in Google Play, but I guess if the developer is dead, there's no one to remove it. Similar to SP: it's still in Google Play and it might no longer be developed.

[EViollet]

I tried ICS on my phone a few months ago and can't recall having
noticed any particular issues with this app.
What issues did you notice?

Regards

[Olav Seyfarth]

Hi *,

I use SP on ICS on SGS and it's performing well.
It can't switch mobile data, though.

Olav

[rcbjr2]

That's good to know. Verizon supposedly started sending out ICS to Droid Razr phones yesterday although I haven't seen it yet. I did find a powerful alternative: EasyProfiles. It has a fugly interface but it seems to have as many options as SP.

[James]

That app looks like it will do everything I've been doing with SP: timed profiles for different times of day; calendar-actuated profiles to silence when in meetings; SMS-triggered profiles to notify when I get an emergency page, even when the phone is silenced; and manual profiles set as needed.

I'm still hoping that SP will work on my new SGS3, but this would seem to be an alternative.

recbjr2, I saw your post on Easy Profiles' forum, and I would love to hear how SP works for you once you get the ICS update on your Droid Razr Maxx.

[rcbjr2]

As soon as Verizon sees fit to push it out to me, I'll try it and let you know. ;-)

[rcbjr2]

BTW, one thing I saw about EasyProfiles is that there might be a way to poll a Bluetooth connection and if it's there, turn on a Profile that keeps Bluetooth turned on. I asked about the possibility of doing something like this in the Group before because I wanted my phone to turn on my "Car" profile whenever it was near my car's bluetooth. I was told I couldn't do it if Bluetooth was not already on in the phone. I don't think EasyProfiles changes this, but there is mention of some method to turn on Bluetooth for 10 seconds every now and then to see if a car bluetooth name is available, and if so, trigger a rule or profile. Is something like that possible with SP? I'm not sure it has practical value because if it polls every 10 or 15 minutes, my car ride could be almost over by the time the phone figures out that it's near a bluetooth connection, but I thought I'd check in case it's possible and maybe I could poll more often during certain hours or something. Any ideas? I might have to post this as a new question as well so others not following this thread will see it. ;-) Thx.

[rcbjr2]

OK, never mind. I forgot that someone had already suggested a Scheduled Condition that turns BT on for a little while every few minutes as long as he is away from home or office. Oh well, I can't remember everything. ;-) Thx.

[Nev..]

On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 12:02:57 PM UTC+10, James wrote:

Hi all,

It seems the dev is no longer responding to posts here. It seems the website is down. It seems the app does not function properly with ICS

I don't think the app has any problems running on ICS, the problem is certainly with ICS itself.  The location services don't appear to operate normally unless the screen is on.  Still not 100% sure whether this is a SP issue or an ICS issue.  This means that when I drive to work, the phone stays in car mode until I unlock the screen, at which time it instantaneously goes to work profile.  It's as if the phone knows I'm there but something is stopping the actual profile switch to happen until the screen comes on.  

With previous android versions Latitude used to constantly track me no matter what state the phone was in, so long as it was powered on.  With ICS, it no longer seems to update the location unless maps is open.  Odd really.  I don't even know if it's just my phone that does this or if it's a wider spread issue, but it boggles me because google appear to have made a change which handicaps their own services.  This might be related to the above issue.  

Other than that, ICS and SP appear to work faultlessly.

[David Adams]

Does anyone know how to opt out of these emails. I no long use this app and would like to.

 

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[Steve Rothkin]

I just tested it on the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 (ICS). Rules based on time of day and calendar events work fine. So far the only problem I found was that trying to restore a settings backup from my Thunderbird caused the app to crash and I had to force stop it from restarting and manually delete its data before I could use it again.

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[James]

Steve,

That's good to hear. Did you have to rebuild profiles from scratch then?

[James]

David,

If you look on the main page for any Google Group, you'll see a button labeled "Membership." Click on that button, and you'll see the options for receiving email updates and other choices for that group.

On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 8:11:53 AM UTC-4, ddavidadams wrote:



[Steve Rothkin]

Yes.
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Hopefully amusing word substitutions courtesy of my HTC Thunderbolt

[rcbjr2]

I now have ICS on my Maxx. SP seems to be working fine. However, it can't access GPS, but that's a Google change, not something wrong with SP. I found a plug in for SP and others (Secure Settings) that will access GPS settings in ICS, but you have to be rooted first. So, for now I will continue to use SP for as long as it works for me and then switch to something like EasyProfiles when I have to.

It worries me that SP us still for sale in Google Play, but sometimes my install forgets that it's licensed and I need to reinstall from Google Play.

[rcbjr2]

I just checked again to see if Probeez.com is working and it seems to be back up. Previously, all I saw were errors when I tried to reach it. Maybe this means there's hope for SP?

[JH]

I'm glad it's working for you. It does not work reliably on my Galaxy S3. I'm in the process of figuring out what to use.

I'm glad you looked again and found the probeez web site up. That is hopeful. I'd love to find that this is being worked on again and will get updated and supported (and to find out quickly!).

I'm on to EasyProfiles to try that out next.

[Alexander Amelkin]

Guys, just switch to Llama!

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kebab.Llama

I did, and I'm totally happy with it.

[rcbjr2]

Every now and then I stumble on another possible alternative and I've recommended a few on this board. I just ran across another one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dhr.automateddevice. It seems promising. So far, though, I'm still using SP Full on my S4. It still seems to handle the basic profile switching I need. Even so, I keep looking for a good alternative. I do use E-Robot for some things (e.g., turning speaker on automatically if I move phone away from my ear, something that SP cannot do) (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bartat.android.robot). Enjoy.

-Rich

On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:02:57 PM UTC-4, JH wrote:

Hi all,

[Pete]

I spent a week messing around with Tasker, then a 15-hour marathon programming session, then another week of tweaking and I finally have my replacement for SP!

[rcbjr2]

I wish I had the time to figure out Tasker! ;-)

[ACraigL]

I used AutomateIT for a while, then eventually switched to Tasker. It does everything. There is absolutely no reason to fear it, especially since the UI overall (over a year ago now).

My strategy is to create a task called 'normal' that sets all my default/preferred settings. Then anytime I raise a condition, I can always apply the 'normal' properties as an exit task. Super easy. It gets really fun when you start adding in conditional statements or sending system commands. But that's the advanced class.

Tasker is the #1 rated automation app in the market and is still being actively developed/supported. Why wouldn't one switch to it is beyond me,

[rcbjr2]

I think the main issue for me is that there is no widget to set profiles on for a specified of time (or else I'd have to create one). My needs aren't that great so SP still works for me. If/when I root my S4 I will combine it with Secure Settings to be able to set GPS, etc.

[rcbjr2]

I've taken another look at Tasker. It reminds me of the E-Robot app that I'm using some events (e.g., to turn my speaker on/off based upon the proximity sensor). However, I don't use E-Robot for everything because there isn't an easy way to turn on a Profile that turns off other profiles while it's on and for a specified period of time like SPF. While an event based app like E-Robot or AutomateIt is great for what it does, I like SPF in that there is a widget from which I can select a profile to turn on for a specified period of time. I tried this with E-Robot and I would turn off certain "rules" while a profile was active, but I had to manually turn the profile off. In any event, is there a way in Tasker to create a widget that displays all profiles and lets you pick one, run for an hour (for example), and then reverts to all "rules" being back on when the profile time expires?? Thanks!

[ACraigL]

Remember, tasker is not SPF, so things are going to be different -- adjust your paradigm a little bit and you'll be fine.

I'm curious about the scenarios in which a profile runs for a period of time then reverts -- can you describe that a little more?

In any case, Tasker offers a timer widget, that will let you pick a task. Then when you click the widget, you will be prompted for how long you want the task to run. You can have an unlimited # of these so you could build your own list of tasks to be run on demand. Tasker won't 'revert' as you have described it -- I also have not found a tool to do that. My simple workaround is, as I stated above, is to create a task with your default settings, then reference when you need it. Now, to have it call this default task when the timer is up will be a little more complicated. 

The reason why I asked if you could describe the need for the timer is that there may be at better way to trigger the event. If you really wanted to do the timer thing, The only thing I can think of is to create a State Condition, and set it to Task Running, Invert. Browse to the task you wanted to enable, then use the entry task 'normal' from my example to fire when the condition is triggered. This should fire 'normal' when the timer limit has expired.

But tell me more -- there is likely an easier way to handle this.

[Pete]

What I did was build a "Revert" task that sets my default settings, then goes through all the active profiles and pushes the appropriate settings for each one.  Every profile has an exit task that calls this revert task.  I also added in some variables to account for priority when multiple active profiles adjust the same setting.

Sounds simple, but like I said a couple posts up, it took a lot of time.

I don't use timer profiles, but from reading ACraigL's post, it sounds like the timer widget would work the same way.  Have the profile the timer is associated with push your settings, then the profile's exit task would be to call the "Revert" task.

[rcbjr2]

A profile app not being SPF is the problem in many cases. ;-). I've tried many an app, and none does everything I want like SPF. I understand that the paradigm is different. Tasker, like others, is more event or state based and if conditions are met a profile is triggered (or it might be an action or whatever). I've experimented with E-Robot more than Tasker and it works the same way. However, I don't want something that is always automatic. Sometimes I want manual control. For example, I don't have a reliable way to know when I'm in the car and want bluetooth on. SPF has a widget that pops up and displayd available profiles (e.g., BT On). I can click an icon and then select a time period for which the BT On profile stays active (e.g., an hour, which should be enough time for me to make it home from work). After that, I don't need BT On and it shuts off after an hour and then all my rules kick back in (which are just like Tasker profiles/tasks that are triggered by events or conditions). SPF gives me the benefit of both worlds. It has rules that trigger profiles. It also has the manual selection of profiles for a set period of time to ensure that a rule doesn't override the manually selected profile. I probably can set something up in Tasker like I did in E-Robot where I can select a profile (there is a widget for this) where the profile includes commands to turn off several of the other rules to ensure that the profile stays active and isn't turned off by another rule. However, there is no timer for it, so I had to remember to turn it back off (I had an on and off profile for this, whereas only 1 is needed in SPF). Anyway, I appreciate everyone's suggestions. I've created a few things in Tasker. We'll see how it goes. So far, though, SPF still seems to be working (although it is getting old and doesn't have as many options or triggers, which is why I use it with E-Robot for some things).

Thanks. 

[Iñaki López]

I switched to Llama and I'm very happy :D

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[rcbjr2]

I've tried Llama as well. I like it. It comes close to the functionality of SPF. My wife uses it on her phone (and I set it up for her). I just don't like the interface quite as much. Nevertheless, it is a really good alternative to SPF. Thanks.

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[rcbjr2]

I've been playing with Tasker again. It is really pretty neat. It can tell when a bluetooth is nearby even without bluetooth even been on! It may not fully replace Setting Profiles, but it sure will give me some added functionality to my phone.

[rcbjr2]

well, the more I play with Tasker, the more powerful it becomes. I set it up to auto respond to text messages when I'm driving, for example. Setting Profiles can't do this at all, I believe. The text message even tells the recipient how fast I'm going. I have it set up to turn GPS on when I get in my car, due to the Bluetooth connection. There is an add on to tell if you are moving in a car but it's easier to do it by checking whether I'm connected to my bluetooth I think this is finally going to be my substitute for Setting Profiles. Many other profile apps are triggered by events only but Tasker also has state triggers such as during an appointment in your calendar. As long as the appointment is active, the tasks will trigger. This is unlike some of the other apps I've played with that I had problems with trying to decide what to do with begin and end triggers for calendar appointments. Anyway, if you haven't tried it, you ought to. It's not as hard as I thought, especially with the new interface. I've programmed Word and other macros for years and much of the syntax to Tasker is similar (e.g., If, Else, End If).

[Pete]

Glad to hear you've been able to climb the Tasker learning curve!  Setting Profiles was one of the first apps I bought back in the early days of Android, and I've more than gotten my money's worth from it.  But with every new version of Android or every new phone I was risking not having the automation I'd grown accustomed to thanks to SP.  I'm happy to be on an actively developed app, and feel a sense of accomplishment having tailored it even beyond what I was able to do before.

[Tom Conway]

I've also taken the move to Tasker and been impressed by what I can do.

[JH]

What about the widget? Have you found a way to replace that functionality or are you living without it? I own Tasker, but I just haven't found the time and patience to learn it and set it up.

[Richard Belthoff]

I haven't replaced the widget yet. However, based on what I've done so far, I dont think I'm going to need it. For example, I used to use it to turn GPS on while I was driving and then turn it when I was done. However, with Tasker, Tasker just turns GPS off when the Bluetooth connection is no longer active. I think there is a way to set up a widget with a menu to run tasks which might be similar to setting profiles. However, I haven't determined yet how to do it yet, but it is supposedly doable. The app is just too complicated to figure it all out in a short time. More I look at it though, the less I think I even need the widgets because it is customizable enough to handle just about any situation. If it ever figure out how to setup some men you and how to keep the task running, I will post a message here.

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[JH]

I used the widget in SP a lot and do so now in Profile Scheduler. I don't think I could live without it. Thanks for the reply.

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[Richard Belthoff]

I find the widget useful as well, but since Tasker turns on GPS in my car for me, I haven't had much need lately for the widget. However, I did try to use my SP Widget this morning to keep my screen on for a while, so there are uses for the widget. I just haven't figured out how in Tasker to capture my time input for keeping the "profile" active for the time selected, but I'm sure there's a way. 

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[ACraigL]

Tasker has a 'Task Timer' widget, that can be set to a default execution time, then modified at launch. To simulate the SP profile, you just need the last command in the chosen task to run a 'normal' task that captures the default behaviors you want,,, creating this is usually the first thing I do in Tasker.... that way you always have an exit task to revert to. The widget is pretty self-explanatory, but like the previous poster offered, I rarely (never, really) use it because the contexts can pretty much obviate the need for it. But it is there.

On Friday, July 25, 2014 1:07:07 PM UTC-4, rcbjr2 wrote:

I find the widget useful as well, but since Tasker turns on GPS in my car for me, I haven't had much need lately for the widget. However, I did try to use my SP Widget this morning to keep my screen on for a while, so there are uses for the widget. I just haven't figured out how in Tasker to capture my time input for keeping the "profile" active for the time selected, but I'm sure there's a way. 

On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 12:41 PM, 'JH' via Setting Profiles User Group <setting-prof...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I used the widget in SP a lot and do so now in Profile Scheduler. I don't think I could live without it. Thanks for the reply.

On Wednesday, July 23, 2014 9:39:17 PM UTC-4, rcbjr2 wrote:

I haven't replaced the widget yet. However, based on what I've done so far, I dont think I'm going to need it. For example, I used to use it to turn GPS on while I was driving and then turn it when I was done. However, with Tasker, Tasker just turns GPS off when the Bluetooth connection is no longer active. I think there is a way to set up a widget with a menu to run tasks which might be similar to setting profiles. However, I haven't determined yet how to do it yet, but it is supposedly doable. The app is just too complicated to figure it all out in a short time. More I look at it though, the less I think I even need the widgets because it is customizable enough to handle just about any situation. If it ever figure out how to setup some men you and how to keep the task running, I will post a message here.

On Jul 23, 2014 6:02 PM, "'JH' via Setting Profiles User Group" <setting-prof...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

What about the widget? Have you found a way to replace that functionality or are you living without it? I own Tasker, but I just haven't found the time and patience to learn it and set it up.

On Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:36:46 PM UTC-4, rcbjr2 wrote:

well, the more I play with Tasker, the more powerful it becomes. I set it up to auto respond to text messages when I'm driving,  for example. Setting Profiles can't do this at all, I believe. The text message even tells the recipient how fast I'm going. I have it set up to turn GPS on when I get in my car, due to the Bluetooth connection. There is an add on to tell if you are moving in a car but it's easier to do it by checking whether I'm connected to my bluetooth I think this is finally going to be my substitute for Setting Profiles. Many other profile apps are triggered by events only but Tasker  also has state triggers such as during an appointment in your calendar. As long as the appointment is active, the tasks will trigger. This is unlike some of the other apps I've played with that I had problems with trying to decide what to do with begin and end triggers for calendar appointments. Anyway, if you haven't tried it, you ought to. It's not as hard as I thought, especially with the new interface. I've programmed Word and other macros for years and much of the syntax to Tasker is similar (e.g., If, Else, End If).

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[Richard Belthoff]

I tried the timer task but couldn't get it to work quite right. Of course, this was when I first started with Tasker, so I didn't t really know what I was doing. When I asked on the Tasker Google group about recreating the SP menu system, the developer suggested I might need a scene and use sliders for input. I think that's a bit too complicated for the few times I might not use the timer, but we'll see. Tasker has all my SP rules now. I just need to figure out if I really need to create timers for a few occasional situations.

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[JH]

Thanks for pointing this out. I may have to take a look.

[rcbjr2]

I figured out a way to replicate the SPF widget behavior in Tasker. In general, you create a task that sets options, ask for input to set how long to "wait", use the wait action to wait the specified time, then reset the options. This is a simple and example that turns on BT and then turns it off after the user set time.

Profile Time (71)
Run Both Together
A1: Bluetooth [ Set:On ]
A2: Variable Query [ Title:Profile Time? Variable:%Time_To_Run_Profile Input Type:Numeric / Decimal Default:1.0 Background Image: Layout:Variable Query Timeout (Seconds):60 Show Over Keyguard:On ]
A3: Variable Set [ Name:%Time_To_Run_Profile To:(%Time_To_Run_Profile*60)*60 Do Maths:On Append:Off ]
A4: Wait [ MS:0 Seconds:5 Minutes:% Hours:0 Days:0 ]
A5: Bluetooth [ Set:Off Continue Task After Error:On ]
A6: Variable Query [ Title:Test Time Variable:%Time_To_Run_Profile Input Type:Numeric / Decimal Default:1 Background Image: Layout:Variable Query Timeout (Seconds):40 Show Over Keyguard:On ]

Although Tasker would let me create something more elaborate, I thought it easier to create a few tasks, place them on my home page as widgets, and then collect them in a folder. That way I'll have a cascading type menu of tasks to run for a specified time. I can create folders in my S4. If other phones don't have this option there are apps such as FolderOrganizer that can do it.

[rcbjr2]

Dang. My example has typos. Sorry. I though they were fixed but I guess they didn't save. Here is the corrected task.

Profile Time (71)

A1: Bluetooth [ Set:On ]
A2: Variable Query [ Title:Profile Time? Variable:%Time_To_Run_Profile Input Type:Numeric / Decimal Default:1.0 Background Image: Layout:Variable Query Timeout (Seconds):60 Show Over Keyguard:On ]
A3: Variable Set [ Name:%Time_To_Run_Profile To:(%Time_To_Run_Profile*60)*60 Do Maths:On Append:Off ]

A4: Wait [ MS:0 Seconds:%Time_To_Run_Profile Minutes:0 Hours:0 Days:0 ]

[JH]

Thanks for posting this. I just got a new LG G3 and am setting up Profile Scheduler on it for now. I may take a crack at this while on vacation in August.