Command+B opens Session Buddy; very disruptive!

[Eva Silvertant]

I use Command+B a lot to format text in bold. But now, every time I try to do that, Session Buddy opens instead. So this has effectively undermined a shortcut I use often.

This is a standard editing feature, so it’s extremely disruptive that I can no longer make use of it now. Please remove it. I’m not sure if anyone really needs a shortcut to open Session Buddy. But if so, make it optional, and give us the ability to set our own shortcut instead of disrupting existing shortcuts.

[Steven Wallach]

ICYMI:  Why does Session Buddy open when I use the CMD+B keyboard shortcut in another app?

[capaz]

Steven,

off topic, but I hope you don't mind...

I was thinking of using link-to-highlight URLs in my own responses, but thought: "wait, that's a chrome-only feature".  duh.  SB is a chrome extension.  it's technically possible that some folks are browsing the forum using a different browser, but maybe not worth worrying about.

That said, I notice that your link above:  https://sessionbuddy.com/v4-faq/#:~:text=This%20was%20a,mac-shortcut-bug/ doesn't work for me.  it just goes to the top of the page.

when I create the same URL from the FAQ page, it is copied as:  https://sessionbuddy.com/v4-faq/#:~:text=This%20was%20a,mac%2Dshortcut%2Dbug/ and this does work in my browser.  the difference is the encoded '-' characters.

I'll try these URLs on other computers, maybe different OSes, but do you have any insights? which OS are you posting from?  your system language is "English (US)" language?

thanks,

-tom

[Mike Rizzi]

Hi Tom,

Not sure if this is helpful or not, but for me both of the links in your post 

 https://sessionbuddy.com/v4-faq/#:~:text=This%20was%20a,mac-shortcut-bug/ .....

 https://sessionbuddy.com/v4-faq/#:~:text=This%20was%20a,mac%2Dshortcut%2Dbug/ 

behave as if the URL was just 

https://sessionbuddy.com/v4-faq/

I'm running Chrome on a Windows 11 box.

mike

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 Music has always been a matter of energy to me, a question of fuel.
 Sentimental people call it inspiration, but what they really mean is
 fuel. I have always needed fuel. I am a serious consumer. On some
 nights I still believe that a car with the gas needle on empty can run
 about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the
 radio.  -- Hunter S. Thompson

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[capaz]

Thanks so much, Mike, for pitching in to help with this!

Steven (or anyone else), you might want to look this over before continuing to try to use Chrome's Link-to-Highlight in this forum...

Oh my, what a puzzler!!  It took me three tries, composing and posting a follow-up message (thank goodness I had the forethought to copy/paste somewhere else before I hit the submit button) to figure out the problem, which I'm going to try to convey using a couple of screen captures below...

Mike's reply to me seemed to reinforce the idea that I had made a copy/paste error with the links in my message...  The links, as they appeared in my message, and as Mike had quoted using the forum's reply tool, show different text, but contain the same URL, i.e., that of the first link, with its literal/raw '-' characters.  The second link should have contained the '%2D' encoded values in place of the '-' characters, and so clicking on the two links should have given two different results: one broken and one correct....  Hmm, my dumb copy/paste error, right?  No!  I had actually done everything right, but something else (at this point, I'm blaming the Google Groups software) changed the URLs out from under me!

Ok, cue the first annotated screenshot, of my compose message screen with content as described in the image:

The message is very specifically formatted/composed in order to demonstrate & test the problem that I saw with the link in Steven's original reply to Eva....

After clicking the Post message button, here's what I saw posted to the thread... 

Both of my plain text URLs have been turned into clickable links!  The green annotation shows that I was hovering the mouse cursor on the second of my links in order to see the link's underlying URL, down in the corner of my Chrome window. The red annotation shows that whatever automatically turned them into clickable links *also* altered the underlying URL, changing the encoded ASCII '%2D' chunks back into the raw/literal '-' characters!!  Argh!

Feel free to copy/paste those URLs, from either my original or Mike's reply, into Chrome yourselves to see that the not-encoded '-' characters break the Link-to-Highlight functionality.  Who knows what other encoded ASCII stuff this would happen to?!

Having spent way more time and effort on this than any sane person would consider reasonable, I've learned enough to know at least that I won't be using Link-to-Highlight URLs in my Google Groups messages, and that I would recommend to the same to others.

cheers,

-tom

[Mike Rizzi]

Hi Tom,

Happy to test again...

On Windows 11 Chrome, this link

https://sessionbuddy.com/v4-faq/#:~:text=This%20was%20a,mac-shortcut-bug/

behaves as if the URL were: https://sessionbuddy.com/v4-faq/

While this link

https://sessionbuddy.com/v4-faq/#:~:text=This%20was%20a,mac%2Dshortcut%2Dbug/

This URL *does* work for me, going to the appropriate section of the FAQ page and showing the highlighted text.

I'm guessing the difference is one is using a hyphen and the other is an En dash, which often look the same visually but are different ASCII characters. I've got to dash (no pun intended), so I don't have time to test that hypothesis. Hope this helps.

Good luck with it,

mike

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Music has always been a matter of energy to me, a question of fuel.
 Sentimental people call it inspiration, but what they really mean is
 fuel. I have always needed fuel. I am a serious consumer. On some
 nights I still believe that a car with the gas needle on empty can run
 about fifty more miles if you have the right music very loud on the
 radio.  -- Hunter S. Thompson

On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 10:56 PM capaz <t...@acm.org> wrote:

sigh.  that's because I apparently made a dumb copy/paste mistake...  the text of those links is different, but URL's are the same, i.e., that of the first link.

I'll start over...

The link from Steven's reply to Eva:  Why does Session Buddy open when I use the CMD+B keyboard shortcut in another app?

The URL from that link is:

• https://sessionbuddy.com/v4-faq/#:~:text=This%20was%20a,mac-shortcut-bug/

This URL does not work properly for me --  neither by clicking on the link in Steven's reply to Eva, nor by pasting it directly into my Chrome.

It behaves as if the URL were: https://sessionbuddy.com/v4-faq/

The URL that I got by selecting the same text in the FAQ page, and doing right-click --> Copy Link to Highlight  is:

• https://sessionbuddy.com/v4-faq/#:~:text=This%20was%20a,mac%2Dshortcut%2Dbug/

This URL *does* work for me, going to the appropriate section of the FAQ page and showing the highlighted text.

(still, the only difference between the URL's is the encoding of the two '-' characters near the end)

1. Am I the only one who can't successfully use Steven's link (either by clicking on it or by pasting its URL into a browser)?
2. If that's not the case, and the raw '-' characters really *do* break it, how did it come to be that way in Steven's link? (presuming that he created his URL in the same way that I did.  as far as I know, that's the only way to create a Link-to-Highlight URL)

Thanks for pitching in to help me test this, Mike.  Would you mind doing that again?

thanks,

-tom

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