PRIIME PRESETS FOR LIGHTROOM
Latrisha Adan
Adobe work with us here. You just pushed an update that makes a total mess of everyone presets, even though you were notified of problems during the beta. We all like new features but come on. Is this programming school?
First, presets are changed to XML without asking. Ok, I see where they're going with the more compatible format and it has potential. But it's like Adobe did not even bother to see if it worked. Sure favorites are cool, but along with them, we are stuck with even more clutter of default preset folders and no way to remove them even though your customers have been asking for years.
Next, the "Show Lightroom Presets" button in preferences still goes to the old presets folder and the original presets are there but no longer show up in because Lightroom is looking for the converted XML presets that are now in the Camera Raw folder. You didn't even bother to update the button? From what I can tell new presets installed in that official location will not only not show up, there is no way to convert them after the initial update.
I have thousands of photographers using preset packs I design. At this time I'm going to downgrade my working projects and recommend that people do not update until we have a solution for these blatant issues. I'll start tinkering for a temporary solution and everyone, please share if you have any until Adobe fixes this. Thanks.
Everyone I've summerized the solutions we have found in a video and links to the file tools people have made that workaround the sorting bug (as well as how to downgrade) on my blog if anyone needs help with this... -7-preset-order/
So glad you pointed out where the presets are now stored (C:\Users\XXXX\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CameraRaw\Settings)! I had to reinstall lightroom and couldnt work out why my presets werent loading in. Once I copied my backup of the the CameraRaw Settings data they loaded in. Thank you!
In Camera Raw / Settings there is an index_(div. numbers).dat file but this is from last Update in June. And there ist a very old file index.dat from 2012. There is nothing more in the folder under camera raw.
If you're already on 7.4, then please file a bug report in the official Adobe feedback forum, where Adobe wants all bugs posted: Lightroom Classic CC Photoshop Family Customer Community . Be sure to include the output from Help > System Info. Screenshots of Library showing the presets present and Develop showing them missing would also help,.
Yea the rename does seem to help but not sure if it sticks. I'm going to have to start renaming our packs I guess. Rename and then rename the same name and it sorts properly. What kind of programming style is this?
7.3 is really still in beta and they are using us as a test I guess. I downgraded back to 7.2 for primary work, renamed it and installed 7.3 again for testing. You can do it from the CC window and the presets all went back to normal since 7.2 uses the original presets folder (and seems to ignore the tilde that 7.3 added). Backing up presets first could not hurt though.
I know for a fact they were made aware of the sorting bug because I was notified of the problem by a beta user who was talking to the team before release. They shipped it anyways, costing users thousands of hours of hassle and fixes. Adobe owes their users a serious apology.
Apologies are cheap. This snafu cost me money as I waste time looking for the presets. I read the release note thoroughly before updating. Nowhere was this mentioned. I want a refund for the month of April. I pay a subscription for regular, quality updates. Quality has just been dashed to the rocks and beaten senseless. It's going to be forever before I trust an Adobe update again. Hmmmm...On1, Luminar, Topaz, Photo Mechanic...starting to look attractive.
I'm having the same issue. My presets are hideously out of order now. This seems such a basic thing to have worked to avoid. It's also crashed twice since I installed it a half hour or so ago. Doesn't look ready for prime time to me.
Good link Michael. Here's a comment on that thread that goes into good detail on what's happening. It's more detailed than the official response.. Lightroom Classic: Develop Presets Not Sorting Correctly (macOS - High Sierra) Photoshop Family Cu...
I'm still blown away that Adobe would shipp this the update, ruining the experiance for so many without fixing the problem first. But untill they do it seems that this is what's happneing and we can fix it thru tedious renaming.
I suspect this error happened generations ago, when Lighroom first developed the .lrtemplate file format in the first place. They must have missed the alteration of the code if you create a preset and then rename it. Or, it's all our fault, for creating presets and then renaming them outside Lightroom. Not sure. Either way, it's gonna require hours of code-hunting to fix a whole collection of presets.
For some reason, if I click "go to presets folder" in LR's preferences panel, it still takes me to the old Lightroom folder with all the .lrtemplate files, not the new CameraRaw folder. Only if I right-click an actual preset does it show the new .XMP file in the CameraRaw folder.
Also, my presets are out of order as well. Clearly, everybody who has ever made more than a handful of preset was using numbers to organize those presets, so I don't know how Adobe could have overlooked this numerical order bug.
The only thing I can think of is, these new .XMP files are getting sorted by DATE CREATED within Lightroom, for some reason? I had a similar problem when creating presets for Adobe Bridge, and then trying to use Finder / Explorer to rename those presets- ACR didn't recognize the new names.
I have Lightroom 2.6, and I have some really good presets, but I want some templates for Christmas cards and birth announcments. Have you seen any online that I can buy? All the ones I love are for Photoshop.
I am new to the lightroom game, but love it. I would love to build my preset collection quickly (free presets, buy presets, etc). Is this 'trade secretes' or are there 10-50 must have presets out there that every photographer should have? So far, i have only found one that is a must have ( -presets) but have been put off by how hard it might be to find the right 'starting' collection. Thank you.
Do you know, is there a way to adjust the presets that are already imported? Like, some of my presets, I love what they do to a photo but they ALWAYS take the exposure back to wherever the preset is set at. SO if I adjust my exposure, then apply the preset, it resets the exposure that I just set! GRRR. Can I uncheck a box or something for that?
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