Updates to the OVN wiki

[Tiberius Brastaviceanu]

Hi all,

I am doing some cleaning and improvements of different pages on the OVN wiki. See recent page changes

http://valuenetwork.referata.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges

The OVN wiki is our harvesting tool and repository of information for the OVN model. Many people have contributed to this body of knowledge and many people around the world are using it.

You can become a contributor to this wiki.

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[Dmitry Sokolov]

Hi Tiberius,

from my experience, best advertisement for a method is its use in practice.
Here is my example if we are talking about OVN:
http://confocal-manawatu.pbworks.com/w/page/122947227/Open%20Value%20Networks
The meaning of this link in this context is that OVN has it's space on LikeInMind which is a prototype of the Holistic Ontology. Content of the ontology node is followed by node structure below.
Subcategories are the branches of ontology. Pages items interlink the branches relevant to this particular node.

The graph view of the ontology:
https://debategraph.org/Stream.aspx?nid=596284&vt=bubble&dc=focus
is prototyped on a separate platform DebateGraph and can be accessed by clicking the blue circle at the upper left corner of each LikeInMind page.

Ideally, all the content, all the ontologies should be mixed and minced within the same Unified Conceptual Space. Federated Wiki is one of the possible protocols for the job.

Please see this letter as introduction to the other resources complementary to the existing.
No competitive but complementary coworking.

Thank you,
Dmitry

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[Tiberius Brastaviceanu]

Hi Dimitry,

Are you proposing a new tool (or to consider a new tool) to serve as a repository for the OVN model?

[Tiberius Brastaviceanu]

Some statistics for the OVN wiki, with Google analytics.

Geographic - Users since 2017

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[Miguel Novik]

Israel  good...:)

Chile so so... ja ja ja

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[Patrick Campbell]

Hi Tiberius, thanks for sharing. Is this data open source? If so, could you share the link? 

Thanks,

Patrick

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[Tiberius Brastaviceanu]

Patrick, do you mean the stats? 

The numbers come from my google analytics account. I don't know if I can share publically. I believe so... If it's possible to extract live data I can embed on the Sensirica website. 

[Patrick Campbell]

Let me know if you can figure it out. It'd be fun to see what other insights we might be able to extract.

Patrick

[Tiberius Brastaviceanu]

Oh, yes, I got you, it's your interest in data, data-driven action. 

Do you have something specific in mind, a hypothesis, or it's just early stage patern search? 

We can have a discussion and see if we can converge on something. There's a lot of places we can get data about OVN and Sensorica or other organisations similar ours. 

There is also a FB page moderated by Michel Bauwens, P2P Research Cluster, where people share lots of studies, from where you can get to datasets. 

If this gets anywhere you can create a page on Sensorica where you gather and structure ideas, a place that can attract other people to contribute. Something like the Collaborative Entepreneurship page, or better. 

https://www.sensorica.co/help/education/collaborative-entrepreneurship

Tell me where you want to go with this and I can help you set it up and plug you into other groups. 

[Miguel Novik]

Data should help...

But the real issue is what do you want to achieve in life.  Again... you have needs like everybody, How do you want to participate in the production and commercial chain and how do you want to capture value.... ?

I do not want to repeat again about the power of negotiation and the current market dynamic. We assume that we have to compete. I agree that nobody else than yourself has to decide what is the price (value) of your work. But you decide it according to ¨the market¨.

You can decide to have a BM that improves your position in the market and ¨increase the perception that the market has about the value of your contribution¨, or you can decide a BM that aims to understand your contributions into the whole production and consumption chain, and having that openly shared, you define the value of your contribution (work)..

Thanks for your offering to open a new page. It could be. NOt so sure I could explain.

You can call me if you want.

Blessings,

Miguel

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[Patrick Campbell]

Hi Tiberius, yes, that's exactly what I had in mind. I don't have any specific hypotheses in mind yet. Sometimes it's good to know what data you have and what condition it's in before you get too ambitious. 

Maybe we can set up a time to talk and you can guide me through some of the data sets you're familiar with. After I've taken a look, we can discuss possible uses. I have a few ideas in mind.

Thanks,

Patrick

[Tiberius Brastaviceanu]

Hi Patrick,

I created a webpage for Data-driven 4th Sector.

You'll find in there a document where we can do some asynchronous brainstorming about big data and the 4th Sector. 

You'll also find in there a link to our last proposal to the Inclusive Growth and Recovery Challenge. In fact, we can continue to build on this doc.

Feel free to bring this discussion topic to social media and invite anyone else to contribute.

We now have a shared space for this topic.

Patrick, since you show interest in this topic, feel free to drive this initiative as you wish. The commons that we create in this space can serve later to other initiatives, grant proposals, collaboration proposals, consultation publications, etc.

Miguel, from what I understand, this initiative is to explore how data can help develop  the 4th Sector. It is a more generic endeavor, not only specific to Sensorica. We can however analyze data produced by sensoricans to draw some conclusions. Also, this is very early stage.

[Patrick Campbell]

Looks great, thanks Tiberius! Looking forward to jumping in!

Patrick