What is Microsoft doing in this area?

[TK]

Oracle's 11g support for RDF is a statement that semantic technologies
have a place in the enterprise but when I look so find semantic
technologies within Microsoft, I come up blank. Having known PowerSet
before they were acquired by MSFT, I know that the backend of Bing.com
is all about domain ontologies but that is not what I am looking
for. I know they are never first but has anyone seen any semantic
technology out of Richmond? Just checking.
--tk

[Marco Neumann]

I have just posted this to the swnyc list an hour ago :-)
(feel free to join the group here http://groups.google.com/group/swnyc )


FYI Patent: CONVERTING SPARQL QUERIES TO SQL QUERIES - Assignees
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FYI Patent: CONVERTING SPARQL QUERIES TO SQL QUERIES - Assignees
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[Dan Pattyn]

They acquired a small RDF triple store company this summer (Can't remember the name) and the Research Division in Redmond has been pumping small RDF triple store vendors on their capabilities.

IBM has finally put JENA into IBM JAZZ (Eclipse competitor to MS Visual Studio) for flexibility.  This spring I kept hearing MS mgmt asking what OSGi was.  Now the educate your manager question is "what is an RDF triple store".  

Given the strong organizational antibody response to new ideas in a mature organization with ex GE financial controllers for each division, it will probably be 2 years for version 1, then three years before it is usable.  You can make $ as a slow follower if you have market power.

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[Juan Sequeda]

Hi all

As like in any big corporation, a lot of things never get communicated.

AFAIK, Microsoft bought Intelidimensions. They were building an RDF
API with Microsoft technology and using SQL has the underlying store

I've seen this patent but I haven't had time to go through it. At UT,
our main work is in the triple store, RDB2RDF and SPARQL to SQL.
However SPARQL to SQL is still a hot topic in the academic world. A
first formal solution came out just a couple months ago. I'm also part
of the RDB2RDF W3C working group where we are creating a standarized
mapping languages for RDB and RDF. The sparql to SQL stuff is still on
the table.

We will be anouncing soon Ultrawrap, a RDB2RDF system. This is joint
work with..... Microsoft! The lead player of the SQL Server team lives
in Austin. And he doesn't even know about any triple store stuff going
on at Microsoft.

Microsoft can afford yo be late in the game. So I guess they are
making sure that everybody else confirms that the market is worth it,
and then they will dive in.

I'll keep people updated with what we are up to.

Juan Sequeda
www.juansequeda.com

On Dec 14, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Marco Neumann <marco....@gmail.com>
wrote:

[Brad Bouldin]

Folks,

IBM acquired a company a few years ago that had its own triple store implementation. Since that acquisition, several IBM products now use that triple store internally.

For example, the IBM WebSphere Services Registry and Repository product (WSRR) uses it  to hold OWL ontologies you can load into the product. Once imported, developers then associate classes with web services.  For example, they might associate the concept OrderHistory with a web service that returns invoice history data, etc.  This enables big companies to organize their web services, so that developers can locate them by topic -- ether through a web-based search tool, or programmatically with APIs.  For example, a  developer could search using more abstract concepts like OrderService to locate the invoice history  web service, assuming (OrderHistory subClassOf OrderService).

From the marketing page, this feature is described as: "Service classification: You can classify services and related metadata into groups that are meaningful in the domain of your organization and that align with your business needs. Using the classification editor, you can improve productivity by easy set-up and modifications to your classification schemas."

Notice there is no mention here of "rdf", "owl", "semantic web", etc., (you only notice it once you dig fairly deeply into the documentation).

Therefore, companies like IBM are already using triple stores in their  products today and are integrating semantic web tech -- sometimes quietly.

Brad Bouldin, bbou...@us.ibm.com
Senior I/T Architect, Patterns Based Engineering Team, IBM Software Services for WebSphere
IBM  Austin, TX
Office: 512-267-0625; Cell: 512-350-3831

From:	Juan Sequeda <juanfe...@gmail.com>
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Date:	12/14/2009 07:09 PM
Subject:	Re: What is Microsoft doing in this area?

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