Is SW = Knowledge-based Web?

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Mohsen

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Oct 29, 2009, 12:46:01 PM10/29/09
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Hi.
I think "Semantic Web" is "Knowledge-based Web".
Is anybody disagree with this?

Adrian Walker

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Oct 30, 2009, 10:02:13 AM10/30/09
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Hi,

The term "Semantic Web" normally refers to tagging of data, as in RDF, and hierarchies, as in OWL.

That's important, but there's much more in the way of semantics and knowledge that's needed for a "Knowledge Based Web"

Here are two papers that speak to this issue:

www.w3.org/2004/12/rules-ws/paper/19
www.reengineeringllc.com/A_Wiki_for_Business_Rules_in_Open_Vocabulary_Executable_English.pdf

Hope this helps,                 -- Adrian

Internet Business Logic
A Wiki and SOA Endpoint for Executable Open Vocabulary English over SQL and RDF
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Paolo Bouquet

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Oct 30, 2009, 12:04:08 PM10/30/09
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What about web-based knowledge representation instead?

It's not a joke. The concept of representing and using knowledge
**using the key features of the web technical architecture** (URIs,
http, interlinking, etc.) is still largely not understood, as most
people tend to do KR as usual (most OWL ontologies are like this) and
then put it on the web in some XML format which does not make it more
web-based at all (it's just an ugly syntax instead of a more
traditional logical syntax). Or just use SW languages for tagging,
which is a very trivial usage of a powerful machinery.

An excellent example of what I mean by web-based KR is obviously the
Linking Open Data initiative (http://linkeddata.org/), though I
personally believe that something more infrastructural is needed to
make LOD possible on a web-scale.

Ciao, Paolo

Danny Ayers

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Oct 31, 2009, 1:12:42 PM10/31/09
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> On Oct 29, 5:46 pm, Mohsen <sadig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi.
>> I think "Semantic Web" is "Knowledge-based Web".
>> Is anybody disagree with this?

I don't disagree.

2009/10/30 Paolo Bouquet <bou...@dit.unitn.it>:


>
> What about web-based knowledge representation instead?

Again, I don't disagree.

But it's also Linked Data (as you mention Paolo) - a phrase without so
much baggage.

The ability to name things is crucial to any kind of discourse, the
key to distribution of information is the ability to link things
together. The Semantic Web craftily hops both hurdles (thanks to a lot
of work around here).

But as an end user of Web tools, I reckon this semweb stuff still has
got a way to go to get out of the data silos, data ghettos, data
trenches even. Way forward almost certainly being exploiting the
existing Web infrastructure.

Cheers,
Danny.

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http://danny.ayers.name

terry...@gmail.com

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Nov 3, 2009, 9:24:45 AM11/3/09
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I came to the conclusion sometime ago that the Semantic Web or data
web whatever you want to call it is a knowledge-based Web. What really
excites me is the potential business models using the "Knowledge-based
Web". I believe it's really about "open supply chains".


Terry J. Leach
Commodatas, LLC
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