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thomas...@orange.com

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Oct 13, 2021, 4:46:25 AM10/13/21
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Dear Organizers,

 

We have a question related to GitTables evaluation for CTA. Indeed, the authors of GitTables extracted properties from DBpedia as semantic types, whereas in our work and in the spirit of the CTA task, only classes are considered (properties are only used for CPA task).

Question is: does the Ground Truth consider only DBpedia classes as usual, or does it use a more flexible definition of CTA and includes DBpedia properties?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Regards

Thomas

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Madelon

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Oct 13, 2021, 7:54:06 AM10/13/21
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Dear Thomas,

Thanks for participating in this round of SemTab and sharing your question here.

For the GitTables CTA task based on DBpedia, we consider only properties from the DBpedia ontology (http://wikidata.dbpedia.org/services-resources/ontology).
For the GitTables CTA task based on Schema.org, we consider properties and types from the Schema.org ontology (https://schema.org/docs/schemas.html).

The list of properties/types per ontology used for the ground truth can be found in pickle files: https://gittables.github.io/#ontology-downloads.

We will clarify this.

Kind regards,
Madelon Hulsebos
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thomas...@orange.com

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Oct 14, 2021, 2:47:27 PM10/14/21
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Dear Madelon,

 

Thanks very much for your answer, that’s clarify indeed.

 

This dataset is an interesting opportunity to address new challenges, however the target task is not really consistent with the CEA/CTA/CPA definition adopted by the community: using DBpedia properties is closer to CPA, when the Schema ground truth is a mix of CTA/CPA. This may lead to heterogeneous annotations, which might make systems future evaluation much complex.

Anyway this can be an open question, tasks definition may also be challenged if relevant ;)

 

Regards

Thomas

 

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Jiaoyan Chen

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Oct 15, 2021, 11:32:40 AM10/15/21
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Dear Thomas,

That’s a good question. We will take this into consideration in counting the credit of the results of R3, since this would make some systems unable to work on GitTables’ task with Schema.org

Regards,
Jiaoyan

On 14 Oct 2021, at 19:47, <thomas...@orange.com> <thomas...@orange.com> wrote:

Dear Madelon,
 
Thanks very much for your answer, that’s clarify indeed.
 
This dataset is an interesting opportunity to address new challenges, however the target task is not really consistent with the CEA/CTA/CPA definition adopted by the community: using DBpedia properties is closer to CPA, when the Schema ground truth is a mix of CTA/CPA. This may lead to heterogeneous annotations, which might make systems future evaluation much complex.
Anyway this can be an open question, tasks definition may also be challenged if relevant ;)
 
Regards
Thomas
 
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Envoyé : mercredi 13 octobre 2021 13:54
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Objet : Re: GiTables CTA
 
Dear Thomas,
 
Thanks for participating in this round of SemTab and sharing your question here.
 
For the GitTables CTA task based on DBpedia, we consider only properties from the DBpedia ontology(http://wikidata.dbpedia.org/services-resources/ontology).
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