[SEFI] BOUNDARY WALL DESIGN

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ashutosh.jain

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May 26, 2008, 2:17:15 AM5/26/08
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Dear All,
Is it possible to design a boundary wall in RR masonary
, which is 5mt high from ground level, where can I find the guidelines
or design steps.

I another case the same wall has to retail earth on one side upto top of
wall.

I tried to do some calculations, but found that Tensile stress in mortar
comes very large as compared to permissible tensile stress in mortar(
0.05 N/mm2). I am not sure about the calculation.

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ASHUTOSH JAIN
Senior Executive - Civil
PTD HA
SIEMENS LTD.
Plot 6A, Sector 18,
Maruti Industrial Area,
GURGAON.
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vikram.jeet

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May 26, 2008, 6:47:55 AM5/26/08
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Reaining wall design in stone masonry

Please refer IS 14458 on Retaining walls in hilly areas

Also tensile stress for mortar type M1 & M2 can be taken
as 0.10N/mm2 & 0.07n/mm2 resp in vert dir. as per Cl 5.4.2
footnote of Sp-7(NBC)

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aman.deep

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May 26, 2008, 6:47:51 AM5/26/08
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Dear Ashutosh

Basically you are talking about a 5 m high retaining wall. You may very well design it with various options like RR masonry (as you mentioned), Reinforced Earth walls, Gabians or so. There are agencies specialized with modern techniques who can help you out if your work volume is very large. If it is a small job, you may do it well with suitable RCC wall with counterforts or RR masonry.

In RR masonry, if there is no surcharge load, I hope you should be able to design with wall thickness at base about 1200 to 1500 mm steeped or sloped towards top with thickness at top about 300 mm.

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May 26, 2008, 6:47:53 AM5/26/08
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Dear Ashutosh
You may like to follow BIS 1905 with a few adaptations; however the permissible tensile strength in masonry is very very low and needs to be kept in mind while designing boundary walls(try checking it for Wind loads and you will find it even more difficult).
It maybe feasible to change it to a framed RCC construction with Plinth beams and tie beams at top lever to account for all the loads including earth load.
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Patwari.Rao

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May 26, 2008, 6:38:48 AM5/26/08
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ashutosh.jain wrote:
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Dear All,
Is it possible to design a boundary wall in RR masonary
, which is 5mt high from ground level, where can I find the guidelines
or design steps.

I another case the same wall has to retail earth on one side upto top of
wall.

I tried to do some calculations, but found that Tensile stress in mortar
comes very large as compared to permissible tensile stress in mortar(
0.05 N/mm2). I am not sure about the calculation.

Regards,


ASHUTOSH JAIN
Senior Executive - Civil
PTD HA
SIEMENS LTD.
Plot 6A, Sector 18,
Maruti Industrial Area,
GURGAON.
Ph: 0124 - 2846115.





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RR masonry I doubt, but CRS we can. Refer IS1905




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ajeetkokil

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May 27, 2008, 3:37:22 AM5/27/08
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Hi,

In my opinion, RR walls being non-ductile (since does not consist of any ductile material) should not be designed like RCC walls.
So, while designing RR walls, we need not check its bending, because it cannot withstand any.
RR walls need to be checked for slinding and overturning with appropriate FOS.
However, it also needs to be checked for shear (caused by the back-fill, if any) against the shear strength of the mortar.

Other views are welcome.


Hope this helps




On Mon, 26 May 2008 ashutosh.jain wrote :
Quote:
Dear All,
Is it possible to design a boundary wall in RR masonary
, which is 5mt high from ground level, where can I find the guidelines
or design steps.

I another case the same wall has to retail earth on one side upto top of
wall.

I tried to do some calculations, but found that Tensile stress in mortar
comes very large as compared to permissible tensile stress in mortar(
0.05 N/mm2). I am not sure about the calculation.

Regards,


ASHUTOSH JAIN
Senior Executive - Civil
PTD HA
SIEMENS LTD.
Plot 6A, Sector 18,
Maruti Industrial Area,
GURGAON.
Ph: 0124 - 2846115.





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Ajit Shankar Kokil
Engineer,
Strl. and Arch. Deptt.
Engineers India Limited,
New Delhi
call me at 99112 02590




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battula_venu

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May 27, 2008, 4:31:59 AM5/27/08
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Dear ASHUTOSH JAIN
It is possible to design boundary wall of height 5m in RR masonry. Refer SP 64 2001. Example 17.

Regards
Venu


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Hi,

In my opinion, RR walls being non-ductile (since does not consist of any ductile material) should not be designed like RCC walls.
So, while designing RR walls, we need not check its bending, because it cannot withstand any.
RR walls need to be checked for slinding and overturning with appropriate FOS.
However, it also needs to be checked for shear (caused by the back-fill, if any) against the shear strength of the mortar.

Other views are welcome.


Hope this helps




On Mon, 26 May 2008 ashutosh.jain wrote :

Quote:
Dear All,
Is it possible to design a boundary wall in RR masonary
, which is 5mt high from ground level, where can I find the guidelines
or design steps.

I another case the same wall has to retail earth on one side upto top of
wall.

I tried to do some calculations, but found that Tensile stress in mortar
comes very large as compared to permissible tensile stress in mortar(
0.05 N/mm2). I am not sure about the calculation.

Regards,



Senior Executive - Civil
PTD HA
SIEMENS LTD.
Plot 6A, Sector 18,
Maruti Industrial Area,
GURGAON.
Ph: 0124 - 2846115.





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Ajit Shankar Kokil
Engineer,
Strl. and Arch. Deptt.
Engineers India Limited,
New Delhi
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