Active vs. Inactive EC members and phase 2 representation on the EC
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SeestarPhase2 Phase2
Dec 12, 2012, 11:44:02 PM12/12/12
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Attached is the snapshot of the EC resolutions page that we obtained from the google docs.
It can be clearly seen that some of the EC members haven't been active at all.
Two members are not part of EC anymore - Raghava and Vinay, remaining are 9
Two members have last voted in February of this year
Another one has not voted in the last two years
Some members asked the EC repeatedly on the induscrest group to disclose which all EC members attended the monthly EC meetings. Our byelaws strictly says that if some EC member does not attend three meetings in a row, he/she can be removed from the EC following a process.
To our knowledge there are only 4 active members on the EC as on today, three from SEEstar and one from SEEestates.
Our objective is NOT to disrupt the phase 1 or not to engage in debate with active EC members from Phase 1. Our objective is to replace the inactive EC members from phase 1 or phase 2 or SEEestates with Phase 2 active members. Our byelaws provide for proportionate representation for each project. We need to have 4 from SEEstar phase 1, 5 from SEEstar phase 2 and two from SEEestates.
The existing active EC members can contest and we are sure they will win the elections because of their contributions. We are really curious why they are not conducting elections to all positions.
To this email, the standard answers from the interim EC is expected to be as below:
1. Although the EC members are not voting on the resolutions, they are silent workers and they are the source of inspiration behind our work, etc,.
2. Each time they missed a meeting, they have informed the President that they will miss the meeting.
3. This is false propaganda and the current interim EC is doing a stellar work in the best interests of all members irrespective of the phases/projects they belong to.
seestar2wkgcommittee
Attached is the snapshot of the EC resolutions page that we obtained from the google docs.
It can be clearly seen that some of the EC members haven't been active at all.
Two members are not part of EC anymore - Raghava and Vinay, remaining are 9
Two members have last voted in February of this year
Another one has not voted in the last two years
Some members asked the EC repeatedly on the induscrest group to disclose which all EC members attended the monthly EC meetings. Our byelaws strictly says that if some EC member does not attend three meetings in a row, he/she can be removed from the EC following a process.
To our knowledge there are only 4 active members on the EC as on today, three from SEEstar and one from SEEestates.
Our objective is NOT to disrupt the phase 1 or not to engage in debate with active EC members from Phase 1. Our objective is to replace the inactive EC members from phase 1 or phase 2 or SEEestates with Phase 2 active members. Our byelaws provide for proportionate representation for each project. We need to have 4 from SEEstar phase 1, 5 from SEEstar phase 2 and two from SEEestates.
The existing active EC members can contest and we are sure they will win the elections because of their contributions. We are really curious why they are not conducting elections to all positions.
To this email, the standard answers from the interim EC is expected to be as below:
1. Although the EC members are not voting on the resolutions, they are silent workers and they are the source of inspiration behind our work, etc,.
2. Each time they missed a meeting, they have informed the President that they will miss the meeting.
3. This is false propaganda and the current interim EC is doing a stellar work in the best interests of all members irrespective of the phases/projects they belong to.
seestar2wkgcommittee
SeestarPhase2 Phase2
Dec 13, 2012, 4:19:38 AM12/13/12
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Vamsee
A simple question for you. What disadvantage do you see by conducting elections for the entire 11 positions.
seestar2wkgcommittee
Vamsee Chakka
Dec 13, 2012, 8:33:39 AM12/13/12
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Whoever you are:
Please check my emails, I never complained about what you are
proposing. I never favored any individual. I only complained about the
below things:
1. Don't like this guerilla warfare. Identify whoever is working and
take the credit.
2. Stop saying this only impacts phase 2 members in every email that
is sent. Phase 1 members invested their life savings (more than 5
times the land cost that everyone invested) and going to live their
life in that apartment while phase 2 members are trying to find
alternatives and leave, tell me who is impacted more. Since this is
one society, same ratio of apartments/acre needs to be maintained by
phase 2 joint development builder, amenities is funded by phase 1,
corpus fund is only contributed by phase 1 towards maintenance of
amenities, strip of land etc. All this were talked in an email which
clearly said this only impacts phase 2 members while it is not.
Disclaimer: I'm in phase 1 and phase 2 withdrawal. I'm also in
desperate need of money from phase 2 withdrawal to make payments for
phase 1 construction.
Vamsee
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:19 AM, SeestarPhase2 Phase2
> --
> SEESTAR2 Group is the Group to discuss how to get our hard earned money
> back. What are the different options we have. We need to look at all the
> options and decide what's best for us. We need to actively involved in the
> taking the right decision
> No one would look after our interest, it s we , the members of phase II who
> have to take the initiative and take the best possible road ahead. Hence
> please do check all mails related to our interest and attend meetings and
> make our presence felt.
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Please check my emails, I never complained about what you are
proposing. I never favored any individual. I only complained about the
below things:
1. Don't like this guerilla warfare. Identify whoever is working and
take the credit.
2. Stop saying this only impacts phase 2 members in every email that
is sent. Phase 1 members invested their life savings (more than 5
times the land cost that everyone invested) and going to live their
life in that apartment while phase 2 members are trying to find
alternatives and leave, tell me who is impacted more. Since this is
one society, same ratio of apartments/acre needs to be maintained by
phase 2 joint development builder, amenities is funded by phase 1,
corpus fund is only contributed by phase 1 towards maintenance of
amenities, strip of land etc. All this were talked in an email which
clearly said this only impacts phase 2 members while it is not.
Disclaimer: I'm in phase 1 and phase 2 withdrawal. I'm also in
desperate need of money from phase 2 withdrawal to make payments for
phase 1 construction.
Vamsee
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:19 AM, SeestarPhase2 Phase2
> SEESTAR2 Group is the Group to discuss how to get our hard earned money
> back. What are the different options we have. We need to look at all the
> options and decide what's best for us. We need to actively involved in the
> taking the right decision
> No one would look after our interest, it s we , the members of phase II who
> have to take the initiative and take the best possible road ahead. Hence
> please do check all mails related to our interest and attend meetings and
> make our presence felt.
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Vamsee Chakka
Dec 13, 2012, 11:14:36 AM12/13/12
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On reviewing my reply, I didn't answer your question: 'What
I see frequent emails form Jay, Sree and Uday. I rarely see emails
from other EC members. However I don't know how many of them are
actively participating or not.
With the bureaucratic way things work in India, 'active' EC members
have working relationship with builders/engineers/architects/govt
officials/wholesalers/lawyers etc. While it is not rocket science, it
definitely takes time for the new EC members to learn tricks of trade
and build trust/working relationship.
With phase 1 construction in final stages, I prefer to extend 'ACTIVE'
EC members another term or until phase 1 construction is complete and
conduct elections for open and non-active positions.
For the record, this is the first time I'm sharing my opinion in this
forum. I respect other opinions, I ask the same favor from others,
respect my opinion.
Disclaimer: I'm in phase 1 and phase 2 withdrawal. I'm also in
desperate need of money from phase 2 withdrawal to make payments for
phase 1 construction.
disadvantage do you see by conducting elections for the entire 11
positions.'
I see frequent emails form Jay, Sree and Uday. I rarely see emails
from other EC members. However I don't know how many of them are
actively participating or not.
With the bureaucratic way things work in India, 'active' EC members
have working relationship with builders/engineers/architects/govt
officials/wholesalers/lawyers etc. While it is not rocket science, it
definitely takes time for the new EC members to learn tricks of trade
and build trust/working relationship.
With phase 1 construction in final stages, I prefer to extend 'ACTIVE'
EC members another term or until phase 1 construction is complete and
conduct elections for open and non-active positions.
For the record, this is the first time I'm sharing my opinion in this
forum. I respect other opinions, I ask the same favor from others,
respect my opinion.
Disclaimer: I'm in phase 1 and phase 2 withdrawal. I'm also in
desperate need of money from phase 2 withdrawal to make payments for
phase 1 construction.
SeestarPhase2 Phase2
Dec 13, 2012, 11:21:49 PM12/13/12
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Vamsee
Yes we totally agree with you, in addition to the three you have mentioned we do see occasional emails from the President Kishan.
Let us conduct elections to all positions. By the good deeds of the present active interim EC members, we are sure they will be reelected to the EC.
Seestar2wkgcommittee
(magnificient seven and not the trimurthi)
Yes we totally agree with you, in addition to the three you have mentioned we do see occasional emails from the President Kishan.
Let us conduct elections to all positions. By the good deeds of the present active interim EC members, we are sure they will be reelected to the EC.
Seestar2wkgcommittee
(magnificient seven and not the trimurthi)
Vamsee Chakka
Dec 14, 2012, 12:55:09 AM12/14/12
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I didn't understand which part did you agree to.
What you are suggesting is similar to replacing experienced IT team
with fresh college hires. Nobody can hit the ground running. It is
just few more months for phase 1 construction to conclude.
I keep adding Induscrest group, you keep removing it on your reply. If
you lack the courage to stand up before entire society, I feel like
I'm wasting my time responding to emails from faceless persons.
If you want to earn any credibility, come out in the open and start
using society distro. And please stop calling yourself magnificent.
Let members give you the title based on what is achieved/delivered.
Disclaimer: I'm in phase 1 and phase 2 withdrawal. I'm also in
desperate need of money from phase 2 withdrawal to make payments for
phase 1 construction.
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 9:21 PM, SeestarPhase2 Phase2
What you are suggesting is similar to replacing experienced IT team
with fresh college hires. Nobody can hit the ground running. It is
just few more months for phase 1 construction to conclude.
I keep adding Induscrest group, you keep removing it on your reply. If
you lack the courage to stand up before entire society, I feel like
I'm wasting my time responding to emails from faceless persons.
If you want to earn any credibility, come out in the open and start
using society distro. And please stop calling yourself magnificent.
Let members give you the title based on what is achieved/delivered.
Disclaimer: I'm in phase 1 and phase 2 withdrawal. I'm also in
desperate need of money from phase 2 withdrawal to make payments for
phase 1 construction.
SeestarPhase2 Phase2
Dec 14, 2012, 1:56:35 AM12/14/12
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we agree with this part
I see frequent emails form Jay, Sree and Uday. I rarely see emails
from other EC members. However I don't know how many of them are
actively participating or not.
and partially agree with this part
With phase 1 construction in final stages, I prefer to extend 'ACTIVE'
EC members another term or until phase 1 construction is complete and
conduct elections for open and non-active positions.
As mentioned earlier, let us conduct for all positions and let the "ACTIVE" ec members contest and win. There is no question of replacing the entire EC team.
We are still not coming out in the open, see the personal attacks on our dear Phase 2 friends - Raghava and Ashok. We are afraid of personal attacks on us.
seestar2wkgcommittee
I see frequent emails form Jay, Sree and Uday. I rarely see emails
from other EC members. However I don't know how many of them are
actively participating or not.
With phase 1 construction in final stages, I prefer to extend 'ACTIVE'
EC members another term or until phase 1 construction is complete and
conduct elections for open and non-active positions.
We are still not coming out in the open, see the personal attacks on our dear Phase 2 friends - Raghava and Ashok. We are afraid of personal attacks on us.
seestar2wkgcommittee
praveen devulapalli
Dec 14, 2012, 2:13:32 AM12/14/12
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My apologies for forwarding one of your emails to Induscrest alias. I felt it was useful information for all seestar members. It looks like that created more personal attacks on Raghava. I know Raghava very well. I have seen him fighting for this project and specifically for the rights of Villa owners till his term ended as EC. He helped the current EC in many situations by giving them right and timely advices.
It is very unfortunate to see direct attacks on Raghava. I feel extremely sad about it.
Raghave needs support from each one of us to counter attack these guys.
Regards
--Praveen
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SeestarPhase2 Phase2
Dec 14, 2012, 4:15:51 AM12/14/12
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thanks Praveen
We should have taken Raghava's advice in this regard. He told us not to mask the resolution titles since it was distributed to members already and it was presented in the GBM as well. We masked it to highlight the attendance of EC members and their activeness. Because of this, there are attacks on him.
Apologies
seestar2wkgcommittee
We should have taken Raghava's advice in this regard. He told us not to mask the resolution titles since it was distributed to members already and it was presented in the GBM as well. We masked it to highlight the attendance of EC members and their activeness. Because of this, there are attacks on him.
Apologies
seestar2wkgcommittee
Raghava Cherabuddi
Dec 14, 2012, 4:45:46 AM12/14/12
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| thanks Praveen I can handle the attacks :-) Raghava --- On Fri, 12/14/12, praveen devulapalli <pravee...@yahoo.com> wrote: |
Kshamata
Dec 14, 2012, 6:17:37 AM12/14/12
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Mr Chakka,
Your disclaimer mentions that you are in desperate need of money as you have a flat in Phase 1 under construction.
Congratulations for being a part of Phase 1 which has come up well.
We all are here to explore the best solution to the Withdrawal Member's cause and rest of the Phase 2 member's concerns without affecting Phase 1.
We all have witnessed that nothing much has been done for Withdrawal Members in the last 3 years.
That the Withdrawal Members have already responded.
If you have any idea or any roadmap going forward, please share. Please respond if you don't have time constraint.
Regards,
Kshamata
Kshamata
Vamsee Chakka
Dec 14, 2012, 8:37:58 AM12/14/12
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Ms Prasad,
Please check my emails where I have shared my opinion about Phase 2
options. While I support all the efforts by Phase 2 working committee,
all I'm questioning is the path chosen. It is the path chosen that
sets people apart.
It is funny the way you asked me to contribute to phase 2, the same
way you were asked to contribute when you questioned by-laws.
Vamsee
> --
> *** Software Engineer's Employees Housing and Welfare Association (SEEHWA)
> is a registered non-profit. IndusCrest google group is SEEHWA's IndusCrest
> Project (http://www.facebook.com/IndusCrest) Announcement-Only Group - All
> information posted here in is member confidential. Bylaws prohibit members
> from abusing personal information of other members.***
>
>
Please check my emails where I have shared my opinion about Phase 2
options. While I support all the efforts by Phase 2 working committee,
all I'm questioning is the path chosen. It is the path chosen that
sets people apart.
It is funny the way you asked me to contribute to phase 2, the same
way you were asked to contribute when you questioned by-laws.
Vamsee
> *** Software Engineer's Employees Housing and Welfare Association (SEEHWA)
> is a registered non-profit. IndusCrest google group is SEEHWA's IndusCrest
> Project (http://www.facebook.com/IndusCrest) Announcement-Only Group - All
> information posted here in is member confidential. Bylaws prohibit members
> from abusing personal information of other members.***
>
>
Sudhakara Reddy Peddi
Dec 14, 2012, 11:34:18 AM12/14/12
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I completely agree with Vamsee. I have been in this project for more than 6 years now when hari\manas initially started this project. I saw the phase I construction and it is amazing to see how well the project is being executed despite EC members holding full time jobs. At this time, there is no reason to change EC, we should get the project completed and people settle-in. There is too much at stake now.
With Phase II there are several options on the ground and given that there are a lot of people interested in moving forward. We can consider taking 3 to 4 willing/capable active phase II reps replace inactive( if there are any) EC members. It is very important that these reps not derail the phase I work and not distract the current EC.
Lets stop this email thread right here. Raghava can take things up with Uday and others. I heard a number of good things about Raghava and have personally seen Sree\Uday\Surya doing great work. I am sure they can dialogue, resolve issues in person.
Disclaimer : I am in Phase I and have stake in phase II as well. I need money from Phase II withdrawal if possible but not at the expense of any member in phase I or phase II.
Sudhakara Reddy Peddi
Dec 14, 2012, 11:42:04 AM12/14/12
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Resending as I could not reach all the groups.
I completely agree with Vamsee. I have been in this project for more
than 6 years now when hari\manas initially started this project. I saw
the phase I construction and it is amazing to see how well the project
is being executed despite EC members holding full time jobs. At this
time, there is no reason to change EC, we should get the project
completed and people settle-in. There is too much at stake now.
With Phase II there are several options on the ground and given that
there are a lot of people interested in moving forward. We can
consider taking 3 to 4 willing/capable active phase II reps replace
inactive( if there are any) EC members. It is very important that
these reps not derail the phase I work and not distract the current
EC.
Lets stop this email thread right here. Raghava can take things up
with Uday and others. I heard a number of good things about Raghava
and have personally seen Sree\Uday\Surya doing great work. I am sure
they can dialogue, resolve issues in person.
Disclaimer : I am in Phase I and have stake in phase II as well. I
need money from Phase II withdrawal if possible but not at the expense
of any member in phase I or phase II.
Thanks
Sudhakar
I completely agree with Vamsee. I have been in this project for more
than 6 years now when hari\manas initially started this project. I saw
the phase I construction and it is amazing to see how well the project
is being executed despite EC members holding full time jobs. At this
time, there is no reason to change EC, we should get the project
completed and people settle-in. There is too much at stake now.
With Phase II there are several options on the ground and given that
there are a lot of people interested in moving forward. We can
consider taking 3 to 4 willing/capable active phase II reps replace
inactive( if there are any) EC members. It is very important that
these reps not derail the phase I work and not distract the current
EC.
Lets stop this email thread right here. Raghava can take things up
with Uday and others. I heard a number of good things about Raghava
and have personally seen Sree\Uday\Surya doing great work. I am sure
they can dialogue, resolve issues in person.
Disclaimer : I am in Phase I and have stake in phase II as well. I
need money from Phase II withdrawal if possible but not at the expense
of any member in phase I or phase II.
Sudhakar
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