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norberto.collado koyado.com

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Sep 21, 2021, 2:35:00 PMSep 21
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Adding SEBHC for any H8 HAM radios fans...


From: norberto.collado koyado.com <norberto...@koyado.com>
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:24 AM
To: Steven Feinsmith <steven.f...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RTTY
 
Very nice setup!

I do remember when I did get my morse code test to get my HAM license. I think the call sign back then was "KP4FJG". The equipment was too expensive for me to buy. I did get a 2-meter HealthKit ham radio. Then transition to the HealthKit computer line.

I did search for such code sign, and it still has my old information.


Thanks,
Norberto   


From: Steven Feinsmith <steven.f...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 9:08 PM
To: norberto.collado koyado.com <norberto...@koyado.com>
Subject: RTTY
 
Hi everyone,

Recently, I browsed  for amateur radio and found the interesting article as follows:

https://www.nostalgickitscentral.com/heath/73-index/articles/RTTY%20with%20the%20H-8-8-80.pdf

I, a newcomer involved with amateur radio. I plan to set up digital modes with my old computer. At this moment, I am studying ARRL materials to seek a technician and general licenses by next month. I will get my new call name before jumping into the Extra Amateur exam sometime early next year.

Here is my equipment as they work but need some work such as cleaning, alignment, replacing audio cables to minimize RF problems. I have had this hobby since the early 1970s due to my time focused on university studies and being busy all the time. Now, I have a chance to grab it before my maker calls me home. Here is a picture:

Alex - K3CIM

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Sep 21, 2021, 6:20:58 PMSep 21
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very good Norby, once i had my H8 running i got the HD4040 and connected it to a kenwood mobile that i used as a base station and ran packet for a few years.
Alex B
K3Cim
ARRL-V/E

Steven Feinsmith

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Sep 21, 2021, 9:19:58 PMSep 21
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That is great for adding SEBHC for any H8 plus H89 and H100 (non-PC compatible HAM radios fans. I learned many software and source listings for the Heathkit-based ham radios, but I could not find software archives. I fear that many Heathkit Ham users have already left the world. I have to dig through vintage magazines such as QST, 73 Magazine, and others to find the source listing, hardware, and valuable articles.

Thank you,
Steven

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Steven Feinsmith

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Sep 21, 2021, 10:54:14 PMSep 21
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Thanks, right now, my equipment will get through inspection to ensure everything is working properly. I have to buy a dummy load before I can align the coils to bring Heathkit's specifications. The devices showed clean inside and did not smell tobacco or burned odor. The front panel showed an old call name from an owner who passed away in Florida. I have to change the call name after I get my ARRL technician and general license with a total of 70 questions possible next month or November. I work on my new device called DuinoVox by KB9RLW (available from youtube). It is an easy build device that allows me to have a rig interface with the computer's USB port and use software available for free. This method will allow my transceiver to turn into digital modes. It is possible for the H8 or H89 to work with the DuinoVox.
I discovered Heathkit did have two software for H8 or H89 during the old days. One called HDP-1010, Super CW, and HD-1020, RTTY for the Heathkit H-8 and H-89 computers. I presume there were many software, hardware, and source lists for the old Heathkit computers from the past.
Norby, you need to make a double check if your call name and license status is valid through FCC: 


If your license expires then, you have to take a new exam procedure.

Thanks,
Steven

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George Farris

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Sep 21, 2021, 11:19:20 PMSep 21
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Hey KP4FJG this is VE7FRG :-)

Cheers Norby
George

Norberto Collado

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Sep 22, 2021, 12:36:20 AMSep 22
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In Les’ HDOS collection, there is RTTY software if I recall properly. It will be a place to start looking for some nice HDOS RTTY programs.

 

Norby.

Norberto Collado

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Sep 22, 2021, 12:36:55 AMSep 22
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Thanks VE7FRG!

 

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Hey KP4FJG this is VE7FRG :-)

Alex - K3CIM

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Sep 22, 2021, 5:13:02 PMSep 22
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ALL,  i am a volunteer examiner and wish to let you know that if you have an expired license that is general, advanced, or extra
all you have to do is pass the current technician test and give a page from a call book showing your old license
and you get that license level that you had before
alex b
k3cim

norberto.collado koyado.com

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Sep 22, 2021, 5:17:33 PMSep 22
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Where can I find the technician test or on how to prepare for it? Do I need to do the morse code test again? I still have the HealthKit tapes and training material.


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Steven Feinsmith

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Sep 22, 2021, 6:51:24 PMSep 22
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Norby,


I assume Heathkit training for the amateur radio license was out of date. In the past, there were five different classes (Novice, Technician, General, Amateur, and Extra Amateur, but FCC changed to three (Technician, General, and Extra Amateur). You can purchase the ARRL books from Amazon as follows:


Technician Class (Level 1) license manual for Ham Radio Fourth Edition. ISBN: 978-1-62595-082-6 


ARRL's Tech Q&A book, Seventh Edition, ISBN 978-1-62505-086-4. (Optional)


In case, if you wish to go for the General Class level. Here is:


ARRL General Class License Manual for Ham Radio, ninth edition, ISBN: 978-1-62596-106-9


ARRL's General Q&A book, sixth edition, ISBN: 978-`-62595-110-6 (Optional)


About Extra Amateur class books, I did not buy it this time, it is available from Amazon.


No Morse code test is required. In addition to some of the more obscure regulations, the test covers specialized operating practices, advanced electronics theory, and radio equipment design. Non-licensed individuals must pass Element 2, Element 3, and Element 4 written exams to earn an Extra License.


My best friend is VE and has been involved in Ham radio for 50+ years. He pursued me for so many years to become a Ham radio. Finally, I am ready to earn the licenses. He encouraged me to learn with morse code regardless it was no longer a requirement for the exam. I struggle to learn the morse code because "I am too old to learn a new trick." Now, I memorized 20 characters and still have a long way to go to get everything into my old brain. 


Steven 

My Call Sign: TBA




norberto.collado koyado.com

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Sep 22, 2021, 8:37:01 PMSep 22
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So, if I take for example the Technician exam, then I can ask for my old call-sign; correct? 

Norberto


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Steven Feinsmith

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Sep 22, 2021, 8:59:10 PMSep 22
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I checked FCC's callsign database and showed as follows:

Specified Search
Call Sign like KP4FJG
No matches found

It means your old callsign is available. You better grab the technician exam then get your old callsign back.

Good luck,
Steven








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Sep 22, 2021, 11:56:34 PMSep 22
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Alex - K3CIM

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Sep 23, 2021, 1:40:29 PMSep 23
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Norby,  to answer your questions....
     to study for the technician test (and others) you can go to "Www.QRZ.Com"
select "resources" from the tabs across the top, then select "practice amateur exams"
course you need to register to the qrz site but there is no $$ charged.
as for getting your old call sign back that will be trickey.
after getting your technician you can put in for a Vantiy call sign of your old one.
the catch is the "region" that you got it in.
for instance, i wanted to get A7EX for alex but i saw other reguests like this being denied becuase of the Region.
and i believe that Puerto Rico is another region from where you live now. but if you have two addresses use that one.

Alex B
K3Cim

Steven Feinsmith

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Sep 23, 2021, 2:28:53 PMSep 23
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Yes, you are right about the region's situation that affects the vanity call sign. My best friend thought I lived in Maryland which I have to use like this W3xxx. I told him about my legal residence in Virginia. My future call sign will be W4xxx.
Thank you for the information about the practice amateur exams course for free after registering with QRZ.com. So then I can continue practicing before taking both Technician and General exams next month.

Alex, you are an expert in Ham radio.

Please if you can give me some advice before I buy Heathkit HD-3030, RTTY, and CW Interlace and HD-4040, Terminal Node Controller for my rig.

Currently, I learned about digital modes. I have a document from  Kevin Loughin's project called DuinoVOX USB digital modes interface. This method allows me to interface microphone input and audio output to convert into USB. It can insert the computer and use Ham-based computer software.

Does it mean that I do not need Heathkit HD-3030/4040 devices to allow me to enter the RTTY, CW, and other protocols? The reason is that I need visuals instead of sounds due to my handicapped as Deaf.

Thank you very much,
Steven



Thanks,
Steven

Alex - K3CIM

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Sep 24, 2021, 4:01:44 PMSep 24
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Steven,  i am "not" an expert....just some knowledge that i can pass along.
i would suggest that you not go for the HD terminal node controllers.....
going digital nowdays is more tricky but i have and others do other things
i would suggest that you
down load "FLDIGI"  from "www.w1hkj.com"
this will work with a sound card or as i have gotten a "signal link" that interfaces the radio with the computer.
the best thing with this software is it has MANY different modes of operation.
from CW, to pactor, to afsk, to fsk and many more.
there are other programs there but it depends on how deep you wish to get into this as all hobbies are.
73s
Alex
K3Cim

G. Beat

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Sep 25, 2021, 8:30:49 AMSep 25
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Computer based RTTY came to Amateur Radio by Bill Henry, K9GWT (SK, July 2019) HAL Communications in Urbana, IL
The ST-5 and ST-6 RTTY Demodulator was their first successful product (still using Teletypes, initially — then Terminals)

In 1983 packet radio (AX.25) came to amateur radio, via the TNC-1 project at Tucson Amateur Packet Radio (TAPR).  

The Heathkit HD-3030 introduced in Winter 1984 , their first TNC, based on TAPR license.

AEA in the Seattle area, followed by the PK-232 Multi-Mode Controller from AEA (acquired by Timewave in 1996). 
The Z-80 was used in TNC-2 design, so clone TNCs leveraged that hobbyist knowledge.

Heathkit of the Month #21 (September 2010)
by Bob Eckweiler, AF6C
HD-4040 Terminal Node Controller (TNC) 

Digital Signal Processors (DSP) came to Computer Sound Cards at end of 1980s, based on Texas Instrument’s earlier work on “Speak-n-Spell” and Motorola’s work with telemetry, cell-phones, DoD contracts developed their early chipsets.

At its peak in the 1990s, before High Speed Internet (CATV cable modems) in late 1990s, multi-mode digital mode controllers combined RTTY, AX.25, and other new digital modes (PSK31) via DSP encoding.

greg
w9gb

George Farris

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Sep 25, 2021, 8:36:32 PMSep 25
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And Heathkit had the HK-232, I still have one. Man the 7805 got toasty in that thing.

Steven Feinsmith

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Sep 25, 2021, 9:46:42 PMSep 25
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It was interesting information about Heathkit HK-232 as similar to AEA/Timewave Pakratt PK-232 Data controller. I checked and learned about the company, Timewave Technologies, which is still in business. They sell the device. I can see a lot of changes since Heathkit/AEA over the years. I often wonder if it is worth adding to my rig? Because I work on interfaces from my microphone input, phone, audio in/out to USB. Is it worth it to have the Timewave device?
I am sorry about your device that failed the voltage regulator. It should not be difficult to repair with a new voltage regulator and check the VR circuit to ensure they are working properly.

Steven

G. Beat

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Sep 26, 2021, 10:08:44 PMSep 26
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The Heath-kit HK-232 was the Kit version of the AEA PK-232.
Main PC Board is virtually identical.  
Heath-kit used Rectangular LEDs for Front Panel, while AEA use standard 5mm Round LEDs.
You can upgrade the HK-232 to the latest version, Firmware upgrades, DSP, and USB access.

gb
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