How to write *.imgc to CF?

[Steven Hirsch]

I have the Z67-IDE+ up and running with firmware successfully loaded. There
was a brief moment of panic when the Windows utility failed to connect with
the loader. I could see garbage being printed on the screen, but it was the
same garbage every time. On a hunch, I bumped the baud rate up to 14.4k and
presto! Loader prompt.

Probably a good idea to update the docs so folks using a faster oscillator
(like me) know to use a higher setting.

So, next question is: How do I move those larger *.imgc files to a CF card?
I'm assuming there are working, bootable partitions in those images, correct?

Steve

[Norberto Collado]

The Image utility is at the following location. Windows will ask if you want to discard or keep the image utility, and select keep. Always run your Anti-virus utility against such file before installing.

http://koyado.com/Heathkit/Z67-IDE_files/Z67-IDE%20Windows%20Imaging%20Utility.zip

The following images are bootable for the H17 and H67 configuration. Which configuration do you have?

CPM on Drive 1:
http://koyado.com/Heathkit/Z67-IDE-plus_files/c1767-4m.imgc.zip

HDOS on Drive 0:
http://koyado.com/Heathkit/Z67-IDE-plus_files/h1767-4m.imgc.zip

Please follow-up with Ken to get latest images and thanks for the feedback.

Thanks,

Norberto

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[Steven Hirsch]

On 09/08/2014 07:00 PM, Norberto Collado wrote:
> The Image utility is at the following location. Windows will ask if you want to discard or keep the image utility, and select keep. Always run your Anti-virus utility against such file before installing.
>
> http://koyado.com/Heathkit/Z67-IDE_files/Z67-IDE%20Windows%20Imaging%20Utility.zip
>
> The following images are bootable for the H17 and H67 configuration. Which configuration do you have?
>
> CPM on Drive 1:
> http://koyado.com/Heathkit/Z67-IDE-plus_files/c1767-4m.imgc.zip
>
> HDOS on Drive 0:
> http://koyado.com/Heathkit/Z67-IDE-plus_files/h1767-4m.imgc.zip
>
> Please follow-up with Ken to get latest images and thanks for the feedback.

Great! Thanks.

Ken, are the images from Norberto's site current?

Next question is about bus slots in the H89: I have an MMS 77316 DD
controller, the Heath 3-port SIO card and an H17 controller on the right three
slots - in that order. Can the H89-Z67 go on the left side or do I need to
remove one of the other cards? I'm still a little in the dark with regard to
how the slots map into I/O space.

Steve

[Norberto Collado]

You will need to remove one of the cards. Please remove the H17 and insert
in such slot the H67.

Please review page 7 of the following document on "Using The Expansion
Slots".

http://sebhc.lesbird.com/documentation/hardware/HZ89/H-88-89-90_Cnf.zip

Norberto

[Kenneth L. Owen]

Hi Steve,

I have been involved with Norberto with the development of the Z67-IDE since
about 2010, working mostly on testing of the system and developing variants
of the OS systems to exploit the advantages of the new hardware. As the
system has developed, the images change.

Heath systems are dependent on the installed hardware. The closer the
hardware compliment of the machine being imaged matches the hardware of the
target machine will determine how well the image will work on the target.
Most of the images are named to reflect the drive complement: c1767-4m.imgc
is CP/M for an H89 with H17 and Z67 drives running the 2/4 MHz Speed
Modification and C3767-2G.imgc is for CP/M with H37 and Z67 drives for a 2
GB CF card.

Loading an image that is close to the same hardware complement as your
machine can save you a great deal of time in generating a bootable system
but will still need to be 'tweaked' for your specific hardware.

As for currency, the image file (if not corrupt) is a snapshot of my testing
environment on the day that the image was made. I try to configure the
hardware to typical Heath settings prior to making the image to minimize
difficulties on the user's end (but sometimes miss a setting). For
instance, I run my terminal at 19200 baud on the H17/Z67 machine and must
set all boots for 9600 baud before making the image to allow unmodified
machines to boot up on it.

The latest image made is of the H8 with both H17 & H37 floppies and the
Z67-IDE+ running Norberto's H8 Speed card, USB card, and Real-Time Clock
card and with both CF cards formatted in QuikStor format allowing each
system selector position to be either a QS-CP/M environment of 240 MB or
three independent sessions of HDOS running in an 80 MB environment.

Now, for your specific hardware, things will be different. On a Standard
Heath H89, you can only have two disk controllers: H17 & H37, H17 & Z67, or
H37 & Z67. Usually, one of the floppy controllers is removed to allow
installing the Z67 SASI card for the Z67-IDE.

The H17 system is supported with Les Bird's H8D IMAGE utility to allow
re-creating H17 floppy disks from H8D disk images, but you are limited to 40
track drives to do this. The H37 floppy provides 2 to 4 times the storage
space, doesn't require Hard-sectored disks and will work at either 2 or 4
MHz CPU clock speeds. I am not familiar with the MMS 77316 but expect it to
work about the same as the H37 controller.

-- ken

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[Steven Hirsch]

Thanks for the detailed reply, Ken. I'm starting to wonder if any of the
pre-packaged images will boot on my system. This H89 is equipped with:

- MMS monitor ROM and I/O slot decoder PROM

- An adapter board to provide support for "Org 0" CP/M

I do not currently have the 2/4 speed mod installed, although the parts for
one are here.

I will give it a try with just the H89-Z67 board in the right-hand connector
and see if anything happens. If that fails, I'll start from first principles
and see if I can get HDOS going from scratch - this will be a learning
experience, since I know absolutely nothing about HDOS :-).

Is it likely that Heath CP/M will run on a machine with the MMS remapping board?

Steve

[Kenneth L. Owen]

Hi Steve,

All of my H89 computers are running MMS-84C (Norberto's rework of MMS-84B)
and boot both CP/M and HDOS.

The c1767-4m.imgc is for an H17 running the Micronics Technology design 2/4
MHz modification. This image will run on an H189 without the mod as it will
simply toggle the user's port, bit 4 which is not used by anything else.

If you will be keeping the MMS 77316, you should use the C3767 or H3767
images. The CP/M disk (HD1) is QuikStor format and the HDOS disk (HD0) is
Heath format. The QuikStor drives are 120 MB and the HDOS drives are 15 MB.

-- ken

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[Steven Hirsch]

On 09/09/2014 11:25 AM, Kenneth L. Owen wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> All of my H89 computers are running MMS-84C (Norberto's rework of MMS-84B)
> and boot both CP/M and HDOS.
>
> The c1767-4m.imgc is for an H17 running the Micronics Technology design 2/4
> MHz modification. This image will run on an H189 without the mod as it will
> simply toggle the user's port, bit 4 which is not used by anything else.
>
> If you will be keeping the MMS 77316, you should use the C3767 or H3767
> images. The CP/M disk (HD1) is QuikStor format and the HDOS disk (HD0) is
> Heath format. The QuikStor drives are 120 MB and the HDOS drives are 15 MB.

I will take your advice. Where are these images to be found? I didn't see
them on Norberto's Z67-IDE+ web page.

Steve

[Norberto Collado]

Try this one;

http://www.koyado.com/Heathkit/Z67-IDE-plus_files/H37_H67_Heath_HDOS_CPM_Dri
ve0.zip

Norberto