Finally got mu H8 System working!

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John Delano

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May 21, 2022, 9:54:26 AMMay 21
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I finally have my H8 system working! Thanks to Joe Travis for all the help! You probably reduced the repairs by several weeks!
The H9 was the hardest repair due to poor contacts and a bad PROM (Thanks Dave McGuire for burning a replacement for me!). During this I also learned that the PROM tables in the H9 manual are not 100% correct. Anyone needing replacement PROMs, be sure to get one programmed using an image from a known good one. Especially the 444-10. If you use the table from the manual, the cursor will advance until you press [Home], and you won't be able to use the H9!
Thanks to everyone in the Heathkit community. I found many documents online to help diagnose different problems and build needed cables.

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norberto.collado koyado.com

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May 21, 2022, 2:16:41 PMMay 21
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Very nice and congratulations in getting such system up and running. I like your cassette player. 😊

 

Norberto

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John Delano

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May 21, 2022, 2:42:31 PMMay 21
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Norberto,

That 's an Interact Model 1 computer. The cassette player is built-in.

norberto.collado koyado.com

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May 21, 2022, 5:08:51 PMMay 21
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That is cool!

 

I will be posting the H9 PROM binaries on my website hopefully tomorrow. They are an exact image of the original H9’s ROM’s. That should help in making exact copies as needed.

John Delano

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May 21, 2022, 6:29:37 PMMay 21
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That's awesome. 

Dave McGuire

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May 21, 2022, 9:41:11 PMMay 21
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On 5/21/22 09:54, John Delano wrote:
> I finally have my H8 system working! Thanks to Joe Travis for all the
> help! You probably reduced the repairs by several weeks!
> The H9 was the hardest repair due to poor contacts and a bad PROM
> (Thanks Dave McGuire for burning a replacement for me!). During this I
> also learned that the PROM tables in the H9 manual are not 100% correct.
> Anyone needing replacement PROMs, be sure to get one programmed using an
> image from a known good one. Especially the 444-10. If you use the table
> from the manual, the cursor will advance until you press [Home], and you
> won't be able to use the H9!

Wait, what? This is most distressing. Are you able to determine the
differences?

I replaced the 444-10 with a PROM that I programmed from the manual.
I can't easily get to it at the moment but I'm pretty sure it worked fine.

-Dave

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Dave McGuire

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May 21, 2022, 9:43:00 PMMay 21
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On 5/21/22 17:08, norberto.collado koyado.com wrote:
> I will be posting the H9 PROM binaries on my website hopefully tomorrow.
> They are an exact image of the original H9’s ROM’s. That should help in
> making exact copies as needed.

Please send out a link when you do. I'm very curious about the
differences.

Mark Garlanger

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May 21, 2022, 10:25:10 PMMay 21
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Each of the manuals went through several revisions. Maybe an earlier one had an error that was fixed. I have at least revisions 595-2017-02 and 595-2017-03 for the H9 Operation manuals.

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norberto.collado koyado.com

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May 22, 2022, 2:18:41 AMMay 22
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Just one byte off for 444-10 PROM.

 

Original files here:

 

http://koyado.com/heathkit/New-H8-Website/download/h9-proms.zip

 

 

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Joseph Travis

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May 22, 2022, 8:27:03 AMMay 22
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Does this type of PROM "burn" 1's?  If so, it may be possible to re-burn any PROMs with the correct value.

Regards,
Joe Travis n6ypc


John Delano

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May 22, 2022, 9:03:40 AMMay 22
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If I remember it was off by only 1 bit. I would need to pull the chips and compare them to find all the differences. 

Dave McGuire

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May 22, 2022, 9:12:05 AMMay 22
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On 5/22/22 08:26, Joseph Travis wrote:
> Does this type of PROM "burn" 1's?  If so, it may be possible to re-burn
> any PROMs with the correct value.

Yes, these are "blank 0/write 1" PROMs, and they do support
single-byte writes.

John Delano

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May 22, 2022, 9:57:53 AMMay 22
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The 444-11 and 444-12 both work with the table data, but I remember there were some differences in the 444-12, but the H9 is working with those PROMs. The few bits may cause some odd glitches, though. My 444-11 was completely dead so I couldn't compare it to the tables.
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