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a425couple
May 6, 2013, 12:27:18 PM5/6/13
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The below is certainly slanted,
But does anyone care to point out where it is factually false?
As near as I can tell, the original was first posted at
http://justcommonsense-lostinamerica.blogspot.com/2013/02/obamacare-blows-up-in-dems-face.html
on Friday, Feb.22, 2013.
"Obamacare Blows Up In Dem's Face!
Okay folks, I know you think the C-Span Channel that broadcasts all those
Congressional hearings is boring, but, really, you should have been around
to watch the Senate Finance Committee's hearing Wednesday on the Affordable
Health Care Insurance Oversight.
Folks, you haven't seen so many faces of misery since you watched Les
Miserables for three and a half hours...and they were all Democrats. And
one of them, Senator Max Baucus, was the primary sponsor of Obamacare in the
Senate!
Now, try to follow me here because this gets pretty complicated. (It seems
that Nancy Pelosi was right; you have to pass Obamacare to find out what's
in it...and the Democrats are now learning what the Republicans warned them
about. It's an unworkable mess that is throwing millions of Americans off
the health care rolls!)
Okay, apparently, tens of thousands of American employers began throwing
workers off their health care plans and opting to pay the much lower federal
fine for not offering health care for their workers. Thousands more are
even now converting their full time workers to part time workers by limiting
working hours per week to less than 30, in compliance with Obamacare rules.
(Remember when Paul Ryan and the Republicans predicted employers would do
this? Remember when Democrats were warned that employers would move to save
operating expenses by moving their entire work force into federal healthcare
exchanges?)
Now, these workers who have lost their health care benefits are busy trying
to sign up for state health care exchanges. (There are internet sites
available if your state has agreed to sign up to Obamacare).
However, when these American workers, soon to be without employee provided
health care, go to the Health Exchange to sign up, they are finding they are
not qualified! It seems that during the signup process, applicants are
required to fill in various income and benefit data, which then flows over
to IRS computers who then are to spit out what your premium costs will be
and how much federal tax credits you'll receive in order to receive
subsidies to help you afford health care premiums that are as much as 30%
more than you were paying under your employers plan!
Big Problem! The IRS is only allowing somewhere around 9% subsidy support
for Obamacare Health care Exchange premiums that are priced so much higher
than the worker was paying under his employer plan! (Surprise, Surprise!
Remember Republicans warning that forcing working Americans to pay for the
30 million tit suckers who pay nothing for their health care under Medicaid
would drive the premiums of working Americans higher?)
Second Big Problem! The IRS computers won't mate up with the Health Care
Exchange computers because the IRS computer system is obsolete! So when
workers try to sign up for Obamacare the IRS and the Health Exchanges are
telling applicants to go to hell!
And so fireworks really broke out at the Finance Committee hearings on
Obamacare yesterday afternoon. Senator Max Baucus, (Dem), said.."how could
this happen? I'm hearing from my constituents that they and their families
have been left out in the cold and are without health care because the
Exchanges are not accepting them!". Quote from Senator Bill Nelson, (Dem),
Florida "my constituents are not going to be happy to hear this
administration failed to implement the necessary changes to accommodate
health care applicants...someone has to pay for this!" Similar outrage was
professed by Senator Ron Wyden (Dem) from Oregon.
Sadly, Obama Program Director for the Health care Affordability Act was on
hand to lend testimony. All he could seem to do was sympathize with his
Democratic buddies, saying that maybe the problems could be ironed out by
the end of 2014 but could offer no ideas about how that could be done.
An Update! This morning a Harvard economics professor came on CNBC and
announced that, according to a federal study his group just completed, the
Health and Human Services Secretary is going to be forced to come back to
this same committee, hat in hand, and request $700 billion dollars more be
allocated to Obamacare just to pay for those automatically covered under
current federal programs.
Also, sadly, the Wall Street Journal reported that, in addition to the 30
million Americans not currently covered under Obamacare, we can expect tens
of millions more who will be left in the "no health care Twilight Zone";
those who were doing just fine with their employee health care plan until
Obamacare was implemented this year. And many of those who were working 40
hour weeks will find themselves deemed "part time employees" working less
than 30 hours per week and unable to afford Obama's premiums even if they
could get through the application process.
And, as usual, while the working poor, and the rapidly declining middle
class will be out in the cold without any health care, the Medicaid/Welfare
tit-suckers have no worry. They are covered by that $700 billion dollar pot
of gold Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services will be
demanding from Congress soon!
Sad. Damned Sad."
But does anyone care to point out where it is factually false?
As near as I can tell, the original was first posted at
http://justcommonsense-lostinamerica.blogspot.com/2013/02/obamacare-blows-up-in-dems-face.html
on Friday, Feb.22, 2013.
"Obamacare Blows Up In Dem's Face!
Okay folks, I know you think the C-Span Channel that broadcasts all those
Congressional hearings is boring, but, really, you should have been around
to watch the Senate Finance Committee's hearing Wednesday on the Affordable
Health Care Insurance Oversight.
Folks, you haven't seen so many faces of misery since you watched Les
Miserables for three and a half hours...and they were all Democrats. And
one of them, Senator Max Baucus, was the primary sponsor of Obamacare in the
Senate!
Now, try to follow me here because this gets pretty complicated. (It seems
that Nancy Pelosi was right; you have to pass Obamacare to find out what's
in it...and the Democrats are now learning what the Republicans warned them
about. It's an unworkable mess that is throwing millions of Americans off
the health care rolls!)
Okay, apparently, tens of thousands of American employers began throwing
workers off their health care plans and opting to pay the much lower federal
fine for not offering health care for their workers. Thousands more are
even now converting their full time workers to part time workers by limiting
working hours per week to less than 30, in compliance with Obamacare rules.
(Remember when Paul Ryan and the Republicans predicted employers would do
this? Remember when Democrats were warned that employers would move to save
operating expenses by moving their entire work force into federal healthcare
exchanges?)
Now, these workers who have lost their health care benefits are busy trying
to sign up for state health care exchanges. (There are internet sites
available if your state has agreed to sign up to Obamacare).
However, when these American workers, soon to be without employee provided
health care, go to the Health Exchange to sign up, they are finding they are
not qualified! It seems that during the signup process, applicants are
required to fill in various income and benefit data, which then flows over
to IRS computers who then are to spit out what your premium costs will be
and how much federal tax credits you'll receive in order to receive
subsidies to help you afford health care premiums that are as much as 30%
more than you were paying under your employers plan!
Big Problem! The IRS is only allowing somewhere around 9% subsidy support
for Obamacare Health care Exchange premiums that are priced so much higher
than the worker was paying under his employer plan! (Surprise, Surprise!
Remember Republicans warning that forcing working Americans to pay for the
30 million tit suckers who pay nothing for their health care under Medicaid
would drive the premiums of working Americans higher?)
Second Big Problem! The IRS computers won't mate up with the Health Care
Exchange computers because the IRS computer system is obsolete! So when
workers try to sign up for Obamacare the IRS and the Health Exchanges are
telling applicants to go to hell!
And so fireworks really broke out at the Finance Committee hearings on
Obamacare yesterday afternoon. Senator Max Baucus, (Dem), said.."how could
this happen? I'm hearing from my constituents that they and their families
have been left out in the cold and are without health care because the
Exchanges are not accepting them!". Quote from Senator Bill Nelson, (Dem),
Florida "my constituents are not going to be happy to hear this
administration failed to implement the necessary changes to accommodate
health care applicants...someone has to pay for this!" Similar outrage was
professed by Senator Ron Wyden (Dem) from Oregon.
Sadly, Obama Program Director for the Health care Affordability Act was on
hand to lend testimony. All he could seem to do was sympathize with his
Democratic buddies, saying that maybe the problems could be ironed out by
the end of 2014 but could offer no ideas about how that could be done.
An Update! This morning a Harvard economics professor came on CNBC and
announced that, according to a federal study his group just completed, the
Health and Human Services Secretary is going to be forced to come back to
this same committee, hat in hand, and request $700 billion dollars more be
allocated to Obamacare just to pay for those automatically covered under
current federal programs.
Also, sadly, the Wall Street Journal reported that, in addition to the 30
million Americans not currently covered under Obamacare, we can expect tens
of millions more who will be left in the "no health care Twilight Zone";
those who were doing just fine with their employee health care plan until
Obamacare was implemented this year. And many of those who were working 40
hour weeks will find themselves deemed "part time employees" working less
than 30 hours per week and unable to afford Obama's premiums even if they
could get through the application process.
And, as usual, while the working poor, and the rapidly declining middle
class will be out in the cold without any health care, the Medicaid/Welfare
tit-suckers have no worry. They are covered by that $700 billion dollar pot
of gold Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services will be
demanding from Congress soon!
Sad. Damned Sad."
a425couple
May 6, 2013, 6:55:32 PM5/6/13
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"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message...
> so many faces of misery -- And one of them, Senator Max Baucus, was the
http://us.topnewstoday.org/us/article/5535250/
Top Democratic senator sees 'train wreck' for Obama health care law
Sen. Max Baucus of Montana, who helped craft the president's health care
overhaul, became the first top Democrat to publicly voice fears about its
rollout.
> The below is certainly slanted,
> But does anyone care to point out where it is factually false?
> As near as I can tell, the original was first posted at
> http://justcommonsense-lostinamerica.blogspot.com/2013/02/obamacare-blows-up-in-dems-face.html
> on Friday, Feb.22, 2013.
>
> "Obamacare Blows Up In Dem's Face!
> Okay folks, I know you think the C-Span Channel that broadcasts all those
> Congressional hearings is boring, but, really, you should have been around
> to watch the Senate Finance Committee's hearing Wednesday on the
> Affordable Health Care Insurance Oversight. ----
> But does anyone care to point out where it is factually false?
> As near as I can tell, the original was first posted at
> http://justcommonsense-lostinamerica.blogspot.com/2013/02/obamacare-blows-up-in-dems-face.html
> on Friday, Feb.22, 2013.
>
> "Obamacare Blows Up In Dem's Face!
> Okay folks, I know you think the C-Span Channel that broadcasts all those
> Congressional hearings is boring, but, really, you should have been around
> to watch the Senate Finance Committee's hearing Wednesday on the
> so many faces of misery -- And one of them, Senator Max Baucus, was the
> primary sponsor of Obamacare in the Senate!
The basic seems supported by:
http://us.topnewstoday.org/us/article/5535250/
Top Democratic senator sees 'train wreck' for Obama health care law
Sen. Max Baucus of Montana, who helped craft the president's health care
overhaul, became the first top Democrat to publicly voice fears about its
rollout.
Jean Tant
May 8, 2013, 12:34:00 AM5/8/13
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Sebelius pointedly noted that Republicans in Congress
last year blocked funding for carrying out the health care law, and she had
to resort to raiding other departmental funds that were legally available to
her.
The administration is asking for $1.5 billion in next year's budget, and
Republicans don't seem willing to grant that either.
"I don't know what he's looking at," Sebelius told reporters following her
out of the room after Baucus adjourned the hearing. "But we are on track to
fully implement marketplaces in January 2014, and to be open for open
enrollment."
"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:km9ce...@news3.newsguy.com...
last year blocked funding for carrying out the health care law, and she had
to resort to raiding other departmental funds that were legally available to
her.
The administration is asking for $1.5 billion in next year's budget, and
Republicans don't seem willing to grant that either.
"I don't know what he's looking at," Sebelius told reporters following her
out of the room after Baucus adjourned the hearing. "But we are on track to
fully implement marketplaces in January 2014, and to be open for open
enrollment."
"a425couple" <a425c...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:km9ce...@news3.newsguy.com...
arizonajohn
May 8, 2013, 3:13:40 AM5/8/13
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On 5/7/2013 9:34 PM, Jean Tant wrote:
> Sebelius pointedly noted that Republicans in Congress
> last year blocked funding for carrying out the health care law, and she had
> to resort to raiding other departmental funds that were legally
> available to
> her.
Reading your bullshit is like reading a paragraph of Jay Carney's notes
> Sebelius pointedly noted that Republicans in Congress
> last year blocked funding for carrying out the health care law, and she had
> to resort to raiding other departmental funds that were legally
> available to
> her.
on Obama
blaming Bush. You have to be getting paid to post or you are so stupid
you can't even have your period.
Sanders Kaufman
May 10, 2013, 9:17:57 AM5/10/13
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"a425couple" wrote in message news:km8lm...@news3.newsguy.com...
>And, as usual, while the working poor, and the rapidly declining middle
>class will be out in the cold without any health care, the Medicaid/Welfare
>tit-suckers have no worry.
Why do you pretend that "universal healthcare" means that most people will
NOT get healthcare?
You know better, but you pretend to be that *incredibly* stupid.
Does your hatred for the US run so deep that you'll feign ignorance like
this, just to take a stand against it?
Did we send you to prison for stealing stuff or hurting people, and now this
is how you behave?
What gives?
>And, as usual, while the working poor, and the rapidly declining middle
>class will be out in the cold without any health care, the Medicaid/Welfare
>tit-suckers have no worry.
NOT get healthcare?
You know better, but you pretend to be that *incredibly* stupid.
Does your hatred for the US run so deep that you'll feign ignorance like
this, just to take a stand against it?
Did we send you to prison for stealing stuff or hurting people, and now this
is how you behave?
What gives?
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