Ithink the novel does a great job of expressing many issues through the characters. Tom exlplaining that women run around too much brings up the issue of prostitution and other trafficking jobs for woman to do. The woman then, and now, may not have the respect that they need to have for themselves. I feel as though society has shaped itself to be this way and Ftizergald is the one to bring it up. Gatsby wants to have Daisy again, his love for her never fails. It shows that your true love for someone does not truly go away. Even though he wants to recreate the past, Daisy may not want too, Nick says, "I wouldn't ask too much of her, You can't repeat the past." Nick is saying that just because you want something does not always mean you can get it; if you do get it than you cannot push it too far becasue you never know the breaking point of someone. Fitzgerald has created a novel that addresses issues that are still around today.
I agree for the most part but Nick is also saying that just because something worked one way in the past doesn't mean it will work that same way in the present. Gatsby wants the same love to just return between him and Daisy but it is possible that so much has happened within those five years that it is impossible to ever get back to where they were.
Chapter six further explores the characters' situations and experiences. The chapter reveals Gatsby's past and relates it to the present. I think the book comes to focus on Gatsby's creation of a "plan" to make Daisy his once again. Gatsby's ability to make his dream happen is what makes him a powerful and grand character throughout the book. It is also seen that Gatsby has as much money as Tom, but lacks the ability so socialize, relating to why people never know who the host of the parties is. Also, Tom seems to be intimidated by Gatsby and asks Nick "Who is this Gatsby anyhow?" (Fitzgerald 107). Tom also states that he thinks that Gatsby is a bootlegger, "I didn't hear it. I imagined it. A lot of these newly rich people are just big bootleggers, you know." (Fitzgerald 107). Tom may seem to be judging Gatsby because Tom may feel above him. Later in the story it can be inferred that a confrontation between the two will occur. Also, Gatsby wants Daisy to confront Tom and tell him that she has never loved him. Gatsby is trying to get Daisy's attention by trying to do whatever he can. Gatsby also transcended early struggles to build his own empire in hopes of regaining Daisy's love. The qualities of Gatsby becoming a self-made man are present throughout the chapter. In a way, I feel that Daisy is conflicted by Gatsby's origin, as she is a women of class that didn't need to build her self. To this point Fitzgerald has created a masterpiece, from love to wealth, many aspects of the american way of living is introduced in a personal view. It may be simply that the values of the characters' slowly change and kill the American Dream. The characters triumph in a whole new different way, through materialism instead of through moral necessitates. I really like how Fitzgerald uses symbols to communicate with the reader and also keeps the reader imagining.
I completely agree with the fact that Gatsby's hard work to accomplish his goals makes him a strong character in the novel. Not many of the characters in the story are capable of the hard work that Gatsby does, or have the motivation to work for what they want. Gatsby's dedication to make himself wealthy in order to impress Daisy portrays his love for her. And I agree that the characters in this story triumph over one another based on materialism and wealth instead of morality and who they are as people. When I read this chapter, I felt that Tom may not only feel superior to Gatsby, but he could also feel a bit intimidated by him as well. While Gatsby may not have as many personal connections as Tom does, Gatsby does not appear to be particularly shy around strangers, and does throw these lavish parties. Later in the novel, it is learned Tom has never thrown a lavish party like Gatsby does, therefore, it is not surprising Gatsby receives more attention than Tom does. It is because of this that I feel that Tom may feel a bit threatened by Gatsby, so Tom is sizing him up in order to make himself feel better. In addition, I believe Tom feels there could be a potential connection between Gatsby and Daisy, which is also causing him distress. At the party, Gatsby and Daisy danced together in public, so there is a good chance Tom might've seen it. Nick also mentions that Tom came with Daisy to the party because he was "perturbed at [her] running around alone" (104). Tom appears to be quite insecure about Daisy interacting with other people, therefore, I feel that while Tom may not know about the connection between Gatsby and Daisy yet, he senses that Gatsby could easily one-up him in Daisy's eyes, so he came to the party to watch her and make sure that she did not stray away from him and form a relationship with someone else, especially Gatsby.
In this chapter, most of the mysteries about Gatsby are uncovered. The readers finally know where all his money truly came from and can see just how much Gatsby put in to make him the person he is today. "And it was from Cody that he inherited money--a legacy of twenty-five thousand dollars. He didn't get it...He was left his singularly appropriate education..." (100-101) As you can see, he had to work to become the person he is. Furthermore, when everyone was at the party, Tom is addressed by Daisy for always being gone and known for cheating, such as when she said he could take her golden pencil to get addresses. Fitzgerald has created a puzzle of connecting stories, one way or another, and has thrown it at the readers. However, like all puzzles, through time and more understanding, the puzzle comes together. At this point though, there are still pieces that haven't found their home and the readers have yet to know what the end of the puzzle with reveal.
I completely agree with you Emylee. Gatsby has had to work his butt off in order to get where he has gone. To me, he just had a little help in the beginning and he got on his own two feet afterwards. I think Fitzgerald has almost done this on person in order to make us come up with our own opinions of the characters.
I agree with both Emma and Emylee. The puzzle is slowly but surely coming together, although i'm not really satisfied with it. Even though the puzzle is coming together, we still can't figure the picture of the puzzle out due to some very few details Fitzgerald gives us throughout the book so far. I don't know. It's still too hazy for me. Fitzgerald does do a great job making the readers come up with our own opinions, but sometimes, it feels like our mind has no direction. We just start wondering off about, "maybe this" or "maybe that" too much. He gives us no direction to go to, at times of course.
I love the quote you used in this, it really explains the way Gatsby has created a dream life for himself. He has all the money that he needs to live without worries and can run around and throw shirts around like its no big deal. Your are so right, what does happen when Nick isnt around? Does he do bad things? did he actually kill that guy???
I agree with the idea you have of Gatsby creating his own dream life for the story he creates for himself. Maybe think about looking at Gatsby's life through Nick's eyes. Does Nick fully believe the stories and Gastby? Or maybe not so much as believe in the stories, as compared to does Nick want to believe in everything he has heard about Gatsby.
The novel is by far my favorite read we have done in english class so far. The story is fascinating, the characters diverse, the symbols abundant, and the general flow of the Fitzgerald's words is beyond perfect. I feel the reveal of James Gatz is the second most important reveal of the novel. It explains so much, why Daisy did't marry him, why he feels the need to prove himself to the public, his awkwardness, and his inability to tell others about his past. But it raises a huge question that we as readers haven't found out, how did he get so much money so quickly after the war? The comment Tom makes to Daisy creates quite the double standard. women run around to much and yet he has a mistress and numerous lovers before Myrtle. The irony in Tom's statement is not only funny because of the double standard, but Daisy is running around. She's running around with Gatsby. Gatsby's obsession with the past and the making up of lost time will be his downfall. No one can repeat the past. Gatsby can try to do this but something dark is coming.
I completely agree with you Riley, on how this background of Gatsby reveals almost everything about him. However, I believe this background story also reveals many things about other characters. Like with Nick, I think this is how readers can infer one reason as to why he looks up to Gatsby enormously. It also can help identify some key subjects of how Gatsby and Tom differ, towards aspects in life and with Daisy. Which is very important to tune into when the reader is looking at Daisy's point of view.
The novel seems to tie together in chapter 6. Gatsby's life and his desire for Daisy seem to reveal itself in chapter 6. While at Gatsby's house Gatsby states " I know your wife" aggressively to Tom. Gatsby wants to take Daisy away from Tom and this sparks Tom to believe that " women run around too much these days to suit me. They meet all kinds of crazy fish" (110). Tom senses that his wife is possibly bringing pursed by a "crazy fish" which is Gatsby and Tom may feel threatened. The Sloane's early departure from Gatsby's also displays a difference between the old rich and the new rich. After the party Tom states " Who is this Gatsby anyhow? ... Some big bootlegger", and when responding to where he heard that Tom states "I didn't hear it. I imagined our. A lot of these new rich people are just big bootleggers" (114). I think Fitzgerald is trying to point out that class warfare is not just between different classes, but can also be in a class on one's method of reaching a certain class.
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