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Mike Orr

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Mar 16, 2012, 1:08:50 AM3/16/12
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We've reached the end of our planned SeaPIG meetings so we need to
plan April, May and June. April is coming up in just four weeks
because of the postponed meeting this month. I suggest we have an
organizers' meeting soon. Would a day next week work?

I talked with Kevin la Tona this evening, and he wants to learn
Tornado. He put a message on the list asking if anyone wanted to work
together on it and didn't get any response. I think it's because the
event was not marketed and positioned quite right, but it could be
viable under a different approach. For instance, I didn't respond
because I didn't want to make a significant time commitment to Tornado
because it's not something I expect to use. But if it were part of a
series of events, say a couple hours exploring one package, a couple
hours another day exploring another package, we could get some people
interested in it, especially if there were enough variety between the
packages.

We could do this either as a SeaPIG meeting or in between meetings.
We'd just need to arrange a location, and then something like James'
talk last month, KLT would pre-announce what you need preinstalled on
your laptop, and then he'd give a short talk introducing Tornado, what
existing programs are using it, how it could potentially be used, and
then giving a problem-assignment for people to work on. I'd be
interested in that, and I know Chris Barker was impressed by the
Tornado talk at PyCon, so we could probably find a few ppl interested
in it.

Would this be better as a SeaPIG meeting or as a between-meeting
event? If the latter, could Office Nomads be available the week of May
15th? (That's the week between the SeaPIG meeting and the Vancouver
Polyglot conference, to give enough space between all those events.)

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Mike Orr <slugg...@gmail.com>

James Cooper

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Mar 16, 2012, 12:00:04 PM3/16/12
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Hi Mike,

Yes, my schedule is flexible next week.  Name a day/time.

In general I like meetings where we play around with code, so I'd be all for a regular meeting where we did some Tornado hacking.  Did Kevin mention anything specifically that he wanted to learn?  Random idea: we could have folks bring laptops and at the beginning of the meeting brainstorm some small but common tasks that you might want to do with it (e.g. secure cookies, talk to mysql/postgres, long polling, etc) and have different people spend 90 minutes making a little demo of that one thing.  Then we can show/tell.  We'd have to ask folks to install tornado before the meeting and perhaps provide a hello world app that they could use to prove their install works.

thoughts?

-- James

Mike Orr

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Mar 16, 2012, 12:09:39 PM3/16/12
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On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:00 AM, James Cooper <ja...@bitmechanic.com> wrote:
>  Random idea: we could have
> folks bring laptops and at the beginning of the meeting brainstorm some
> small but common tasks that you might want to do with it (e.g. secure
> cookies, talk to mysql/postgres, long polling, etc) and have different
> people spend 90 minutes making a little demo of that one thing.  Then we can
> show/tell.  We'd have to ask folks to install tornado before the meeting and
> perhaps provide a hello world app that they could use to prove their install
> works.
>
> thoughts?

We could do that but I think the leader should have some tasks in mind
before the session starts, otherwise we'll waste too much time
thinking up tasks. People who don't know async won't know what a good
task would be.
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James Cooper

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Mar 16, 2012, 12:27:02 PM3/16/12
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Hi Mike,

I agree.  We could have some topics ready to seed the discussion.

-- James


We could do that but I think the leader should have some tasks in mind
before the session starts, otherwise we'll waste too much time
thinking up tasks. People who don't know async won't know what a good
task would be.
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Mike Orr <slugg...@gmail.com>



Jonathan Mark

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Mar 16, 2012, 6:26:08 PM3/16/12
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hi all,

Next week is unusually tricky for me, but I could do Monday or Thursday
in the evening. Let me know...
Another possibility is to have the meta-meeting over drinks after the
meeting sometime, with any attendees who want to join. That would not
be quite as focused though.

I think it would be a nice idea to do Tornado hacking at the next SeaPIG
meeting (reserving the last 30 minutes for show & tell).

We could suggest that everyone install Tornado first...
Beyond that, it seems to me there could be some flexibility/options:
* Come with an idea, work on it.
* Come with something already in progress, work on it some more.
* Come with no idea, grab one from the pool.
* Be new to Python or someone who just comes to see what's going on,
either pair with someone, or work on installing Python and getting
started with a tutorial, or maybe have a side conversation (which is
what happened at the last hands-on event).

I am also open to helping host evening hacking events at Office Nomads
in between SeaPIG's if we want to do that sometime... it just means I
need to be available (or some other resident member of ON). The office
itself is almost always available, as evening occurrences in the
conference room are rare, and Jacob & Susan have been very agreeable
about letting us have meetings here.

The wiki is updated with notes from last night. I also noticed that a
bunch of new PyCon 2012 videos have appeared today which weren't there
yesterday, including Guido's keynote.

cheers,

Jonathan

Mike Orr

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Mar 16, 2012, 8:51:54 PM3/16/12
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On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Jonathan Mark <jhm...@xenops.com> wrote:
> hi all,
>
> Next week is unusually tricky for me, but I could do Monday or Thursday in
> the evening.  Let me know...
> Another possibility is to have the meta-meeting over drinks after the
> meeting sometime, with any attendees who want to join.  That would not be
> quite as focused though.
>
> I think it would be a nice idea to do Tornado hacking at the next SeaPIG
> meeting (reserving the last 30 minutes for show & tell).

Kevin said he'd need at least a month to prepare a Tornado event, and
today he said he wouldn't be ready till late summer or fall. He has a
business opportunity right now that he has to attend to first. Of
course, someone else could lead it. (I'm not a target async user so
that wouldn't be me.)

How about Monday then. Shall we go to Sureshot?

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Mike Orr <slugg...@gmail.com>

James Cooper

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Mar 17, 2012, 12:42:52 PM3/17/12
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Monday at Sureshot works for me.  What time?

thanks

-- James

Brian Dorsey

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Mar 18, 2012, 4:49:24 PM3/18/12
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Monday works for me as well. 6pm work for everyone?

James Cooper

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Mar 18, 2012, 7:32:55 PM3/18/12
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6pm Monday works for me

-- James

Mike Orr

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Mar 18, 2012, 8:47:59 PM3/18/12
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OK. Jon?

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Jonathan Mark

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Mar 18, 2012, 10:30:16 PM3/18/12
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sure, 6pm Monday (tomorrow) is great, see you at Sureshot!

J

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