Boats

[Brian Jones]

Hi Everyone,

Attached is a Super Seadog in wood 32 ft long which I found in the Scillies many years ago and I have been trying to find it in my photo album of approximately 4000 photos. I saw another like this in Bantry Bay, SW Ireland about 1986 but I don't think many were built and it may even be the same boat.

The other photo is of Rouselle which is a Seadog No 100, that I should never have sold.

I wish all those of you attending the rally in February, a very happy time.

Best wishes

Brian

[dermot.reidy56]

Brian

Thanks for those. My Seadog (Siren of) Brandon No.91 is identical,  except for the cutter rig and that will be rectified this season. Then I'll do the heater. Fantastic boat and I understand why you regret having sold her!

Dermot

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[perou.j...@laposte.net]

Hi Brian 

This "super seadog" look like the "ocean dog" designed by Freeman, except for the bile keels. 

See here one that was for sale 

You can see all the pics uf you tyoe "ocean dog  freeman" on Google (a former ad from Boatshed) 

See you at the rally, I will be the only french guy there! 

Best regards

Jean Yves 

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Hi Everyone,

Attached is a Super Seadog in wood 32 ft long which I found in the Scillies many years ago and I have been trying to find it in my photo album of approximately 4000 photos. I saw another like this in Bantry Bay, SW Ireland about 1986 but I don't think many were built and it may even be the same boat.

The other photo is of Rouselle which is a Seadog No 100, that I should never have sold.

I wish all those of you attending the rally in February, a very happy time.

Best wishes

Brian

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[Brian Jones]

Hi  Martin,

That's interesting because there is a Seadog called Cimor which I have been on but I have a feeling that she wasn't built by Reg Freeman. She was based up the Cleddau River in Pembrokeshire  but she left there along time ago. I believe she was number 140

Jean yves Perou has corrected me by saying it's and Ocean Dog which is correct but I couldn't think of the name when I sent that photo.  I wonder if the two are connected by that I mean whether the owner of the Seadog bought the Ocean dog or the other way around.  I have a memory of the owners of Cimor selling her and buying a much larger yacht which was at the Festival of Sail in Milford Haven some years ago and came with several other boats including Rouselle to anchor in the moat around Pembroke Castle. photo below. Maybe we will know in the fullness of time.

Regards

Brian

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 01:28:06 PM GMT, Martin Waterman <martinwa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Brian There was one of these lying ashore for years at Conyer , Swale, Thames estuary. ‘ Ci More’. Welsh Seadog I think . Teak I think. She was tidied up one year and has gone. No idea where . Martin 

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[Brian Jones]

Hi Phil,

Yes that has pushed aside some grey matter in my brain and is coming back in my memory now. Terry had his new yacht when we all ended up in the moat at Pembroke Castle, but she drew too much water and he went hard aground. He did eventually get out of there. Fortunately there seems to be a revival in Seadogs now which I sure has come about by the fact that they are very good value for money. Another advantage is the fact that the association are brought together with the use of the computer and they do not have to rely upon a yearly magazine to see how to do things. When I bought Rouselle in 1982 I was out on a limb but I had built a few yachts by then and I come from a sailing family so a lot of it was second nature to me.

Many years ago I pulled into St Ives and found two other Seadogs lying on moorings opposite Woolworths. So I took up a mooring next to them. One was our Admiral who failed to strike his colours one night probably because with all the street lights the sun never went down. It did to the rest of us but then perhaps we were used to street lights and of course the Admiral had sunk a little more beer than the rest of us. Nothing was said at the time but it was mentioned in dispatches in the Annual Magazine and as punishment the committee decided that he would have to buy the first and last round in any harbour in the British Isles where there were more than one Seadog there for one year and he was sent the rules regarding the usage of the blue duster.  I haven't seen him after that but the only way out of that punishment was to put he thing away and fly the red one instead. Anyway at low water when the plug went out of St Ives we could climb down and go for a walk and looking back all the dogs had come down the same way with the port keel sunk in the sand and the base of the rudder about a foot off the bottom. If you slept on the port side you were in heaven but on the starboard side you either got the backside snuggled into the canvas sling that kept you in your bunk or you spent the night of the floor having fallen out. St Ives was always a place to remember and one year a yacht anchored for and aft outside to stay afloat. At some stage in the tide there is often a small whirlpool that sets up around there and when this poor skipper awoke he found that as the tide had gone down his chains had a lot more play in them and the boat had turned around several times taking with it both chains. That was a classic case of Sod's Law and prevented him going to sea until he had spun the boat the other way. We had one dinghy in the bows and another in the stern trying to unravel his knitting. I often wonder what the shore bound people thought we were up to.

Like the police force that I spent some of my working life in, you never knew what was around the corner. One night when I was with another Officer outside a pub a young lady shot round the corner and said, 'Officer I think I have been raped.' My friend who's patch it was said, ' Only think love I would have thought that with your experience you would have known by now.' On that note I will close.

Happy sailing Phil,

Brian

A strange thing happened one year when I met two other Seadogs in

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 04:41:00 PM GMT, philip edwards <philca...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Brian - Ci Môr was owned by Terry and Heather James and moored at the Tywi Boat Club for many many years. Terry sadly passed away quite a few years, back but Heather is still sailing along but in a much smaller craft!! From memory Ci Môr was a Deep Seadog with long and bilge keels and was sold many years ago to someone in West Wales when Terry and Heather took delivery of a larger boat that they bought in New Zealand and shipped over top Wales. As a recent proud owner of Seadog (No.6) Daressa, I have revived the tradition of having a Seadog in the Club, but have not seen Ci Môr in these parts for many years. I am told that she is still around the Welsh coast somewhere.

Best wishes - Phil (Edwards) 

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[Brian Jones]

Hi Hilary,

I am not a member of the Seadog association and as such I cannot attend your AGM. I am quite happy to offer help to anyone if  I can via the computer but I cannot get involved in any other way. My involvement ceased as did my membership when I sold Rouselle several years ago. I am a past Commodore of Watermouth Yacht club and my sailing interest is in Vertue's of which I have the last one built.

I am very pleased that Seadogs have come back in vogue once more and the net is a marvellous way of being in contact with one another and as such if any member gets into trouble whilst away from their own port help can be obtained almost instantly. So Seadogs should  now go from strength to strength.

I wish you all good fast sailing and may the wind always be on your beam

With kind regards

Brian

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 08:29:55 PM GMT, Hilary waitt <sillyh...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear Brian and Phil , I have been reading your mails. You are correct Ci Mor is 140, and is owned by  a Mike Morgan, there is quite a lot of information on her in the newsletters .. `There are 50 for coming to the rally  and a good time will be had . Any memories you have  could be directed to myself or David Nixon for the Newsletters .

It is only by being members of the SOA that we can keep a proper record of owners and keepers of Seadogs …Brian I can’t see youre a member I dont have any record of it or of your membership . Similarly for you Phil .It may be my records are not straight, perhaps you could let me know .

Hilary

 

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