Adelphia forced me down!
Spock
am near Niagara Falls, N.Y. by the way.
When they started, they claimed 100 times faster than a modem. Then it
changed to "up to" 100 times faster than a modem. Now it is less. They did
not have too many policies then, but 3 months ago they revised them and now
have pages full of them. Customer support is the worst I've ever dealt with
out of any company. In short, I have had tons of problems and issues with
them. I have even reported them to the BBB and other consumer organizations
at one time because it got so bad.
I have been running a half-life server for 6 months. Upstream speed is
limited by Adelphia to only 128kbps. So, I can only have 8 players maximum.
So that should not affect Adelphia at all. And besides, people are only
playing on it only 35% of the time.
Well... I just received an e-mail from Adelphia saying I have to shut the
game server down or my service will be disconnected!! Apparently, under
their new policies, you cannot run a server of ANY kind!!! I called to
protest and they did not care. They said to go somewhere else if I don't
like it. Too bad there is nothing else that fast around here yet!
So much for "unlimited" internet access.
It seems like we are being oppressed more and more not only by government,
but by big business too!
I just wanted everyone to know this about Adelphia.
As soon as DSL or something else is available in my area, I am ditching
Adelphia instantly! Even if it costs $100 more a month!!!
Later.
-Spock
StuM
Unlimited with 256k upstream and we are not allowed to run any servers
either. I did start a TFC server once, but got a rude email about 4hrs
later. Seems they didn't like the huge increase in network traffic.
Bastards.
Stum.
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CableGuy
to: szym...@hotmail.com
I have a story also about Adelphia!! I have called Cust non Support many
times to tell them that I dont want to be forced through their Proxy. They
told me that they do not force anyone through a proxy, I said they do and
they called me a liar.
So recently I sighned up for a service determines your IP. Well it
determined my IP but it was not my IP it was and is Everytime I log-on:
208.246.218.22 - this IP is traced back to:
Adelphia Communications (NETBLK-UU-208-246-218) UU-208-246-218
208.246.218.0 - 208.246.219.255
so armed with this info I called Support, again I asked if I could be taken
off of their proxy and not forced, they siad they do not force anyone
through Proxy. I explained about the IP and he checked it and finally
admitted that it was a proxy! I said I dont want to go through it, he said
I need to uncheck some stuff in IE, I said I dont have anything checked.
He went and talked to another Tech I guess....Came back and said it is a
proxy, and they are forcing me through it. REALLY??? - So, I pay you
$50/month...Newsgroups and email LAG almost always, we cant run the
smallest game server, sometimes your slower then dial-up, can I at least
for the $50/month be taken off the forced proxy? He said NO, I would need
to talk to a Network Engineer or someone higher then him, I asked if he
could give me info on who to talk to, he couldn't.
I really wish I could get an email for someone in their NOC (Network
Operations Center) and try to get me and my node off of it, I know that NOT
everyone is forced. (you can check by going to: MS DOS PROMPT and do: ping
proxy)
Anyone have any suggestions? I pay $40/yr for this service and now that I
am on adelphia, it cant be used because it cant get my IP, I cant go
through the proxy to do it.
"Spock" <spoc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Ed Hochman
In 5.5, click on Tools /Internet options /Connections /Lan settings and un-
check "Use a proxy server".
I'm not on adelphia, but it worked for me.
Ed
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CableGuy
they are forcing me and he cant do anything about it.
"Ed Hochman" <mbh...@optonline.removeme.net> wrote in message
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Raymond Cassick
Registrant:
Adelphia Communications Corp. (ADELPHIA2-DOM)
Main at Water
Coudersport, PA 16915
US
Domain Name: ADELPHIA.NET
Administrative Contact, Billing Contact:
Scott, Joelle (JSE388) joe...@ADELPHIA.NET
Adelphia Business Solutions
712 North Main Street
Coudersport, PA 16915
888-512-5111 (FAX) 814-274-7370
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Hostmaster, Adelphia (HA143-ORG) hostm...@ADELPHIA.NET
Adelphia Communications Corp.
Main at Water Street
Coudersport, PA 16915
US
888-512-5111
Fax- 814-274-0780
Record last updated on 13-Sep-2000.
Record expires on 24-Apr-2009.
Record created on 23-Apr-1996.
Database last updated on 29-Oct-2000 17:53:44 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.ADELPHIA.NET 24.48.43.3
NS2.ADELPHIA.NET 24.48.62.35
NS3.ADELPHIA.NET 208.239.78.134
This was the result of a whois querry on adelphia.net.
CableGuy <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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Raymond Cassick
(peer networking) server all the time. Hmmmm
Spock <spoc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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James Cloutier
CableGuy
"James Cloutier" <gia...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
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Ed Hochman
(technically) would be able to "force" such a thing.
Are you using their branded version of IE? Maybe they've got it hard
wired. If so, you could install your own browser.
Another idea... I don't know if this would work, but Internet Options
povides an exceptions list for ip's that should not go through the proxy.
You could try wildcarding everything. For example, you can enter 24.*
which would exclude all sites at addresses like 24.xxx.xxx.xxx. What if
you entered just plain "*". Might that exclude everthing?
Ed
nos...@nospam.invalid (CableGuy) wrote in
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CableGuy
Yes they can force anyone or any group through a proxy. I manage a T1
network at work with about 120 users, we route traffic to the proxy.
All they do is route all traffic to a proxy server. They are notorious for
this, they say it helps on bandwidth, and maybe it does because a lot of
the pages are local, but it dose not help that much.
"Ed Hochman" <mbh...@optonline.removeme.net> wrote in message
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Spock
update!
I opened up an issue on this as well. Went back and forth with no help AS
USUAL. Finally they said they would forward my issue to a network engineer.
Here is part of the e-mail they sent me which CONFIRMS that all traffic is
forced through a caching server...
"I understand what you are saying. That if you're not using the proxy
settings, you shouldn't be seeing the pages that are cached by the proxy
server. In your area, with or without the proxy settings in the browser,
all customers are routed through our cache-flow server. Our Network
Engineers have routed our Powerlink customers this way increase speed and
stability for all customers while surfing the internet."
later.
-Spock
"CableGuy" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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Dale Pontius
"CableGuy" <nos...@nospam.invalid> writes:
> Ed:
>
> Yes they can force anyone or any group through a proxy. I manage a T1
> network at work with about 120 users, we route traffic to the proxy.
>
> All they do is route all traffic to a proxy server. They are notorious for
> this, they say it helps on bandwidth, and maybe it does because a lot of
> the pages are local, but it dose not help that much.
>
the second and later get it from the proxy, not from the 'final pipe'.
Presumably if you put enough users behind your proxy, you'll start
to see the economy of it.
Dale Pontius
Allen
http://www.cacheflow.com/
"CableGuy" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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"Spock" <spoc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It seems like we are being oppressed more and more not only by
government,
> but by big business too!
Big business IS big government. Get it straight and then do something
about it. Kick their ass!
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Mike Bettua
> I did start a TFC server once, but got a rude email about 4hrs
> later. Seems they didn't like the huge increase in network traffic.
> Bastards.
offer the service. As for the 100x faster, I live in the CNY area and that
used to be advertised over here as well. Seems like they dumped that ad
finally. If you want my opinion, advertising from cable companies is very
misleading. Remember: 28.8x10=288.0k, 56.6x10 is even more. 56.6x100 is 5660
(or, just over 5MB) So, with that in mind, if you're getting as much as
.0000000001% less then what is advertised you were (and maybe still are)
being ripped off. Most cable companies offer 256k downstream service.
Upstream is even less. If you were a small company making misleading claims
you'd most likely be out of business. Not to mention the other misleading
factors such as that the amount of upstream and downstream bandwith are not
equally increased. By the way, what are the odds of a novice PC user finding
information on the web as fast as some of the people in their advertisements
finds it? However, I guess that making misleading claims is OK in the
computer and internet world. I still can't understand why so many people put
up with such poor quality of service when it comes to computers, however if
your new television so much as flickers once, people don't hesitate to call
the cable company or return the TV to the store they bought it from. Now
available: Windows ME ice cubes. Oh my God! It's Frozen! (Excuse me for
venting off a little anger at "the man".) :-)
"Oh My God, They Killed Kenny! You Bastards!" - Southpark.
-Mike B.
Lars M. Hansen
>
>> I did start a TFC server once, but got a rude email about 4hrs
>> later. Seems they didn't like the huge increase in network traffic.
>> Bastards.
>I agree. I think that if the ISP can't handle the traffic, they shouldn't
>offer the service. As for the 100x faster, I live in the CNY area and that
>used to be advertised over here as well. Seems like they dumped that ad
>finally. If you want my opinion, advertising from cable companies is very
>misleading. Remember: 28.8x10=288.0k, 56.6x10 is even more. 56.6x100 is 5660
>(or, just over 5MB) So, with that in mind, if you're getting as much as
>.0000000001% less then what is advertised you were (and maybe still are)
>being ripped off.
The ads that I've seen always offer "UP to x times faster". There's no
guarantee that you will get that number, implied or expressed.
[U-238]Ace Ventura
The Half-Life Proxy-Page
http://www.hansenonline.net/halflife
[to send me e-mails, please replace "badnews" with "lars"]
Joe Parente
CableGuy wrote:
>
> if I could, could I get a copy of that email?? if you can, please send it
> to: szym...@hotmail.com
>
> I have a story also about Adelphia!! I have called Cust non Support many
> times to tell them that I dont want to be forced through their Proxy. They
> told me that they do not force anyone through a proxy, I said they do and
> they called me a liar.
>
> So recently I sighned up for a service determines your IP. Well it
> determined my IP but it was not my IP it was and is Everytime I log-on:
> 208.246.218.22 - this IP is traced back to:
>
> Adelphia Communications (NETBLK-UU-208-246-218) UU-208-246-218
> 208.246.218.0 - 208.246.219.255
Whatever else they told you notwithstanding, this information
in and of itself, has nothing to do with a proxy server.
All this means is that this particular block of addresses is
assigned to Adelphia. That's all. If they're using some kind
of a caching server, then it would be either your default
gateway address or somewhere on the network upstream from
that. This would be equivalent to a router/firewall with
caching incorporated into it.
A true proxy server would make your ip address into a private,
non-routeable address and all requests for content would come
through the proxy server's address.
You have a public ip, fully routeable and in view of
all hosts on the internet. I know, I just pinged you.
Joe P.
<snip>
Philip Kirschner
slow the network down.
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