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Lamar Thomas

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Jan 28, 2001, 3:07:21 PM1/28/01
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I have ATT @Home and three IP addresses from them to run my three computers.
However, my three computers can not talk to each other even though thay are
on the same network address range (24.x.x.x). I also have them connected up
to a hub here at my house. If I try to ftp from one to the other it will
not let me. I would also like to be able to play games between the three
computers but I can not do that ether. It seems that @Home is blocking me
from being able to communicate between the three computers. Is there a way
around that? Thanks for any help.

Lamar


Evan Mann

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Jan 28, 2001, 3:34:29 PM1/28/01
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I run into many people with this problem and it's not their setup, it's
their firewall. If you have BlackICE you have to check the boxes to enable
network neighborhood and file and print sharing. ZoneAlarm has something
similar, and I'm sure most every other personal firewall has the same.
Check this first.

Next you need to make sure you have Client for MS Networking install and
Service for file and print sharing on all the machines.

Check these things first then provide more detail about how your exact
network is settup and TCP/IP settings on all 3 computers someone will be
able to assist better.

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Lamar Thomas

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Jan 28, 2001, 3:41:47 PM1/28/01
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Not using a firewall and I have Client for MS Networking install and Service

for file and print sharing on all the machines.

I am running Windows 2000 Server.

Lamar


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Larry W4CSC

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Jan 28, 2001, 3:45:30 PM1/28/01
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I'm confused. Do you have 3 cable modems on 3 computers...AND all 3
connected to a hub??

Lamar Thomas

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Jan 28, 2001, 3:54:15 PM1/28/01
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I have one cable modem and three computers. I also have three IP address
for those computers. All three computers are connected to a hub and so is
the cable modem.

Lamar

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Valentín Guillén

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Jan 28, 2001, 4:18:56 PM1/28/01
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Lamar Thomas wrote:
>
It seems that @Home is blocking me
> from being able to communicate between the three computers. Is there a way
> around that? Thanks for any help.

Part of your problems is that at least two of your IP addresses are on
different IP blocks which both begin with 24, and are part of the
Pittsburgh blocks. You service should be configured in a manner which
blocks your IP traffic from passing SMB traffic between subnets. This
MUST be done, to protect you and everyone else running the recreation
operating systems which use SMB protocols.

One possible solution is to use Network Address Translation, and put all
of the machines on one IP address. That way, you packets NEVER even
need to pass through the cmodem to talk to each other. When all the
boxes share the same subnet, your internal traffic will never leave OUT
through the modem.

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Chuck M

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Jan 28, 2001, 4:22:42 PM1/28/01
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Lamar Thomas wrote:
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> I have one cable modem and three computers. I also have three IP address
> for those computers. All three computers are connected to a hub and so is
> the cable modem.
>
> Lamar
>
> <snip.

Are the IP addresses within the same node? How about workgroup names and
subnet mask. All the same?? With three computers on the same hub you
should be able to communicate between them with the modem disconnected.
Sounds like your assigned IP addresses are on different nodes and the
subnet mask is keeping them from seeing each other.

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Larry W4CSC

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Jan 28, 2001, 6:47:46 PM1/28/01
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On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:22:42 GMT, Chuck M
<chu...@notintospam.home.com> wrote:

>Lamar Thomas wrote:
>>
>> I have one cable modem and three computers. I also have three IP address
>> for those computers. All three computers are connected to a hub and so is
>> the cable modem.
>>
>> Lamar
>>
>> <snip.
>
>Are the IP addresses within the same node? How about workgroup names and
>subnet mask. All the same?? With three computers on the same hub you
>should be able to communicate between them with the modem disconnected.
>Sounds like your assigned IP addresses are on different nodes and the
>subnet mask is keeping them from seeing each other.
>

I agree with Chuck. Screwy setup.....

larry

Valentín Guillén

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Jan 28, 2001, 7:02:18 PM1/28/01
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Chuck M wrote:

> Are the IP addresses within the same node?

Unless this guy has at least two cable modems in his house, fed by two
different cable drops, which are both fed from different "nodes", then
he can't have his computers on different "nodes".

> How about workgroup names and
> subnet mask. All the same??

Doesn't matter the subnet masking if the computers are on different
subnets, which I verified that at least two of them are.

> With three computers on the same hub you
> should be able to communicate between them with the modem disconnected.

He could have 30 or 100 computers sharing a hub, but if they're all on
different subnets, they won't route without routing service.

> Sounds like your assigned IP addresses are on different nodes and the
> subnet mask is keeping them from seeing each other.

Jim Orfanakos

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Jan 28, 2001, 7:32:58 PM1/28/01
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Install NetBeui, make sure that all are in the same workgroup, and since you
are running Win2000, make sure all the userid's and permissions are all in
order.

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Shawn

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Feb 3, 2001, 3:26:07 AM2/3/01
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Yes, install NetBEUI... it's a non routable protocol and speaking for
Road Runners network, it will not be transmitted over the network.
Also, Road Runner blocks NetBIOS (ports 137-139) by default. But,
those who use TCP/IP for networking on a local network on a public
segment are just plain asking for trouble. I wish people had a sense
for security and understood they are responsible for the security of
their machine.

I mean, you have to get a license to drive a car... but not to have a
computer on the information super highway... people just don't seem to
realize that it matters they setup a computer properly on a public
network.

And please DO NOT think that by installing a firewall you are 'immune
from being hacked' and by not having a firewall you are a 'sitting
duck' - this is NOT true. A firewall is a tool, but NOT a solution.

Rant over. Peace.

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Donald N Heine

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Feb 4, 2001, 8:46:54 AM2/4/01
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From what I can tell you have 3 computers on a hub and you are paying an
extra $5 for each adition IP address which is totaly unnecesary. Thats how
@home wants it done so they can get more $. You can use a router, proxy
server, or internet conection sharing wizzard. With this setup you hav to h
client for microsot networks install which probably is. Youre primary logon
has to be set for either Microsoft family logon, or Client for Microsoft
networks, not Windows logon. Then you have to actualy logon, you can leave
the password blank. But don't click cancel. Outside of that all you have to
do is turn on file and print sharing then share something, be sure to
password protect anything you are sharing. Workgroup names all have to be
@home. The problem is everyone using @home service will see you on network
neighborhood and could potentialy hack into youre computers. Fortunately
docsys modems have a built in firewall. I would suggest getting a Lynksys
router it's easy to configure, and secure. Not to mention you won't show up
in everyones network neighborhood.

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