Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Scotch Anglophobe song

1 view
Skip to first unread message

Robert Henderson

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 7:54:57 AM6/13/06
to
Flower of Scotland


(Written by Roy Williamson of "The Corries")

O Flower of Scotland,
When will we see
Your like again,
That fought and died for,
Your wee bit Hill and Glen,
And stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.
The Hills are bare now,
And Autumn leaves
lie thick and still,
O'er land that is lost now,
Which those so dearly held,
That stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.
Those days are past now,
And in the past
they must remain,
But we can still rise now,
And be the nation again,
That stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.
0 Flower of Scotland,
When will we see
your like again,
That fought and died for,
Your wee bit Hill and Glen,
And stood against him,
Proud Edward's Army,
And sent him homeward,
Tae think again.

--
Robert Henderson
Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/ blairscandal/
Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk

Bernardo Gui

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 8:50:35 AM6/13/06
to
"Robert Henderson" <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:CrOv2igR...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...

There are two railway lines, the East Coast Main Line (from Kings X) and the
West Coast Main Line (from Euston).
You Scotch gits can board a train there and go back on a trip to Scotland,
and don't come back.


Greg Preston

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 9:34:40 AM6/13/06
to
Personally I am all for Scots independance, First we removed every last
piece of the social infrastructure we have built in Scotland, Bridges,
Roads, Schools, Hospitals, Power Stations, Ship yards, Factories, Railways,
Phone systems,Oil rigs, refineries etc, then we deduct the cost of all the
care and investment England has spent since the union was created.
Then we give the Scots the now empty land and sea, give them the oil rights
to the fields lying within the 12 mile limit.

We then set up full immigration and border controls and require them to
apply for Viasa to enter the remaining part of the UK.

And naturally we repatriate all the Scots now living south of the border.

Then in fairness we allow Scotlands application for memn bership of the EU
to proceed over the same sort of time period we have watched Turkey , Greece
and Serbia for, at least 50 years.

I mean be fair just look at how well the scots governed themselves for the
1000 years prior to the union


Paul C

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 11:23:57 AM6/13/06
to
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:34:40 +0100, "Greg Preston"
<surv...@virus.co.uk> wrote:

>Personally I am all for Scots independance, First we removed every last
>piece of the social infrastructure we have built in Scotland, Bridges,
>Roads, Schools, Hospitals, Power Stations, Ship yards, Factories, Railways,
>Phone systems,Oil rigs, refineries etc, then we deduct the cost of all the
>care and investment England has spent since the union was created.
>Then we give the Scots the now empty land and sea, give them the oil rights
>to the fields lying within the 12 mile limit.

You are not very bright, are you?

Are you Engerlish by any chance?

Paul C

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 11:45:41 AM6/13/06
to
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 13:50:35 +0100, "Bernardo Gui" <m...@privacy.net>
wrote:

>There are two railway lines, the East Coast Main Line (from Kings X) and the
>West Coast Main Line (from Euston).
>You Scotch gits can board a train there and go back on a trip to Scotland,
>and don't come back.

This is the kind of cutting repartee one associates with the
Engerlish.

He'll be one of the 3,500 football hooligans that isn't allowed out of
Engerland.

Greg Preston

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 12:10:12 PM6/13/06
to

"Paul C" <pa...@thersgb.net> wrote in message
news:c3mt82hgarjs0qadh...@4ax.com...

Why? are you feeling inferior, thats your scotiash genes mate, cos you are
both inferior and unwanted in england


Greg Preston

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 12:12:18 PM6/13/06
to

"Paul C" <pa...@thersgb.net> wrote in message
news:gant82lluhshpdodr...@4ax.com...

> He'll be one of the 3,500 football hooligans that isn't allowed out of
> Engerland.
>

Engl;and has perhaps 3500 drunken yobs, but when you look at ANY estate in
Scotland one can see its endemic up there, and facts facts back it up.
Scots have

One of the highest suicide rates in UK

The highest rate of liver cirrhosis in Europe , having doubled in the last
ten years ( Sky News Jan 5 06.

The highest rate of alcoholism in the UK

Highest rates of Paediatric diabetes in UK

Highest rates of child obesity in UK

Highest rate of premature deaths among adult males in UK, averaging 68 yrs
in Scotland ( 60 in Glasgow) Versus an average of 74 yrs in the rest of the
UK

http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=149212&command=displayContent&sourceNode=200378&home=yes&contentPK=13805813

09:00 - 10 January 2006

Scots are floundering in a sea of debt far deeper than the rest of the
UK, according to dire new warnings yesterday.

The average Scot owes £7,848 in unsecured loans - a third more than
the UK average

Two reports yesterday highlighted the scale of the problem and the SNP
said the nation was the most indebted in the UK.

The Nationalists want the Scottish Parliament to take over control of
consumer debt from Westminster, enabling Holyrood to set limits on the
interest rates that are charged on credit cards and store cards.

Scotland's debt average of almost £8,000 for unsecured loans - much of
it credit and store cards - is well ahead of the UK's average of
£5,993.

Meanwhile, yesterday another study suggested Scots are also the least
likely to consider seeking professional help to tackle their
overspending.


> http://www.spectator.co.uk/online_pfv.php?id=142
>
> Glasgow: the new Gaza
> The Business
>
> A MERE 15 minutes' walk from the designer clothing boutiques of
> Glasgow's prosperous Merchant City lies a face of Great Britain that
> stands as a living testimony to the scandalous failure of the Labour
> government's tax, welfare and employment policies. Few outside Scotland
> will ever have heard of the Calton district of Glasgow; even most Scots
> do not know that its unfortunate residents suffer from the lowest life
> expectancy in Britain.
>
> Consider this: a boy born in Calton today can barely expect to live to
> middle age. He will shuffle off his mortal coil after 53.9 years, to be
> exact, a horrendous indictment of welfare Britain and a life expectancy
> that the rest of the country left behind in the 1940s. Calton's life
> expectancy is lower than that seen in many parts of the developing world
> today, including India, where it is 63.6 years. But Calton is by no
> means the only stain on British social policy: male life expectancy in
> Glasgow as a whole is 69, worse than that of Bosnia, Libya, Puerto Rico
> or even the strife-torn Gaza Strip.
>
> (loads more depressing stuff...)
>

> Not suprising considering the amount of Scot MP's in London, and that it's
> wot won the election for New Liebour in 2005.
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,173-1930884,00.html
>
> "
> THE perception of Scotland as a nation subsidised by the rest of Britain
> was reinforced yesterday when official figures showed that the Government
> spends £1,400 more on every Scot than it does on every person in England.
> "

anthony.j....@gmail.com

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 12:12:34 PM6/13/06
to

Bernardo Gui wrote:

> You Scotch gits can board a train there and go back on a trip to Scotland,
> and don't come back.

So, Bernardo Gui, which part of Ingerland do the Gui family come from?

Paul C

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 12:50:43 PM6/13/06
to
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:12:18 +0100, "Greg Preston"
<surv...@virus.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Paul C" <pa...@thersgb.net> wrote in message
>news:gant82lluhshpdodr...@4ax.com...
>
>> He'll be one of the 3,500 football hooligans that isn't allowed out of
>> Engerland.
>>
>
>Engl;and has perhaps 3500 drunken yobs, but when you look at ANY estate in
>Scotland one can see its endemic up there, and facts facts back it up.
>Scots have
>
>

Banning orders on English football hooligans 3500
Banning orders on Scottish football hooligans 0

Now run off little boy and play with your inflatable Spitfires and
rehearse your rendition of 10 German Bombers.

Is it any wonder you are the most hated nation in the world.

There are times when I wonder why Scotland bothers to subsidise your
benighted country.

Message has been deleted

Paul C

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 12:53:43 PM6/13/06
to
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:10:12 +0100, "Greg Preston"
<surv...@virus.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Paul C" <pa...@thersgb.net> wrote in message
>news:c3mt82hgarjs0qadh...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:34:40 +0100, "Greg Preston"
>> <surv...@virus.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Personally I am all for Scots independance, First we removed every last
>>>piece of the social infrastructure we have built in Scotland, Bridges,
>>>Roads, Schools, Hospitals, Power Stations, Ship yards, Factories,
>>>Railways,
>>>Phone systems,Oil rigs, refineries etc, then we deduct the cost of all the
>>>care and investment England has spent since the union was created.
>>>Then we give the Scots the now empty land and sea, give them the oil
>>>rights
>>>to the fields lying within the 12 mile limit.
>>
>> You are not very bright, are you?
>>
>> Are you Engerlish by any chance?
>
>Why? are you feeling inferior, thats your scotiash genes mate, cos you are
>both inferior and unwanted in england

The word is 'scottish', but for an Engerlishman you did pretty well.

Just give thanks to the Scots that they have condescended to run your
country and all its institutions for you. I'm sure it's not your fault
that you and your compatriots aren't quite up to it.

Greg Preston

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 12:54:42 PM6/13/06
to

"Paul C" <pa...@thersgb.net> wrote in message
news:u1rt82dg3n5h0feaa...@4ax.com...

>>
> Banning orders on English football hooligans 3500
> Banning orders on Scottish football hooligans 0

Proba\bbly because we got through by winning our place, you know " Winning"
something the scots never do
>

>
> Is it any wonder you are the most hated nation in the world.
>

Hated because (A) We win (B) we are successful, unlike the Scots.


Paul C

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 12:56:25 PM6/13/06
to
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:00:47 GMT, Pat Roller <dontm...@here.com>
wrote:

>"Greg Preston" <surv...@virus.co.uk> wrote in
>news:bPadnXd0jpl...@bt.com:

>
>>
>> "Paul C" <pa...@thersgb.net> wrote in message
>> news:gant82lluhshpdodr...@4ax.com...
>>
>>> He'll be one of the 3,500 football hooligans that isn't allowed out
>>> of Engerland.
>>>
>>
>> Engl;and has perhaps 3500 drunken yobs,
>

>Nah, that's just the football fans they won't let out of the country,
>take a walk through any English town on a Friday night at around 10pm
>and you'll see the rest of them draped around lamp-posts, wallowing in
>their regurgitaded kebab, vomit and lager stained England shirts -and
>that's just the women.

I'll have you know that's the celebration of Engerlish culture that
they're always harping on about.

That, and morris dancing :)))

The Bishop

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 12:57:36 PM6/13/06
to

So, without the blessed touch of England, Scotland never would have
developed infrastructure, etc.? I knew the English were megalomaniacal
in general, but you really take the cake. Up the Provos, limey!

Greg Preston

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 1:03:03 PM6/13/06
to
The Scots are the absolute last people on earth who can comment on drunken
rowdy behaviour, Heck I have seen personally the after effects of Scots
factory fortnight on holiday locations such as Jersey and Oasis Winfell, The
Scots are northern europes worst boozers , the records prove that. and of
course they are the worlds greatest losers.

Paul C

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 1:04:40 PM6/13/06
to
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:54:42 +0100, "Greg Preston"
<surv...@virus.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Paul C" <pa...@thersgb.net> wrote in message
>news:u1rt82dg3n5h0feaa...@4ax.com...
>
>>>
>> Banning orders on English football hooligans 3500
>> Banning orders on Scottish football hooligans 0
>
>Proba\bbly because we got through by winning our place, you know " Winning"
>something the scots never do
>>

What exactly have you won?

The World Cup 40 years ago, played at home and all down to a
non-existent goal. Absolutely nothing of any international
significance since.

>


>>
>> Is it any wonder you are the most hated nation in the world.
>>
>Hated because (A) We win (B) we are successful, unlike the Scots.


Well, wee Greg I'll guarantee you one thing. The Scottish football
team has already won more trophies this year than Engerland will win
in the whole year.
>
Anyone for a chorus of the Dambusters?

Greg Preston

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 1:05:37 PM6/13/06
to
.
>
> Just give thanks to the Scots that they have condescended to run your
> country and all its institutions for you. I'm sure it's not your fault
> that you and your compatriots aren't quite up to it.

Aaah yes todays Politicians, Corrupt, Drunkards, Immoral, Liars, Cheats and
Traitors, Yes I can clearly see how the Scots will dominate that category,
BTW have you noticed how most of their Secretaries and English, its cos
most of em cant read or write.


Greg Preston

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 1:06:59 PM6/13/06
to

>
> So, without the blessed touch of England, Scotland never would have
> developed infrastructure, etc.? I knew the English were megalomaniacal
> in general, but you really take the cake. Up the Provos, limey!
>

Up to the point of union Scots social development was at least 100 years
behind the rest of Europe, still is if you visit most Scots cities on a
weekend.


R.Peffers.

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 1:07:18 PM6/13/06
to

"Robert Henderson" <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:CrOv2igR...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
English Scotophobic song.

1. God save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen!
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us;
God save the Queen!

2. O Lord our God arise,
Scatter her enemies
And make them fall;
Confound their politics,
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix,
God save us all!

3. Thy choicest gifts in store
On her be pleased to pour;
Long may she reign;
May she defend our laws,
And ever give us cause
To sing with heart and voice,
God save the Queen! 4. Not in this land alone,
But be God's mercies known,
From shore to shore!
Lord make the nations see,
That men should brothers be,
And form one family,
The wide world over.

5. From every latent foe,
From the assassins blow,
God save the Queen!
O'er her thine arm extend,
For Britain's sake defend,
Our mother, prince, and friend,
God save the Queen!

6. Lord grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush.
God save the Queen!

--

Robert Peffers,
Kelty,
Fife,
Scotland, (UK).
(When replying take pam away from peffers.
Scotland).


Paul C

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 1:11:36 PM6/13/06
to

Greg, darling, you've already posted this. Have you run out of
original ideas?

Actually, do you have any original ideas?

Now I see that not content with rioting at football matches abroad,
the Engerlish are now rioting in front of TV screens in Engerland
:))))))

What a shower!

Paul C

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 1:14:25 PM6/13/06
to
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:05:37 +0100, "Greg Preston"
<surv...@virus.co.uk> wrote:

>BTW have you noticed how most of their Secretaries and English, its cos
>most of em cant read or write.


Can you run that sentence past me again in English, wee Greg?

What's your first language, by the way? I'm happy for you to write in
a language with which you are more comfortable.

Paul C

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 1:26:05 PM6/13/06
to
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:06:59 +0100, "Greg Preston"
<surv...@virus.co.uk> wrote:


>>
>
>Up to the point of union Scots social development was at least 100 years
>behind the rest of Europe, still is if you visit most Scots cities on a
>weekend.
>

Guffaw - coming from the land of the weekend lager lout that's quite
funny - even by your standards.

In what way do you reckon that Scottish social development was at
least 100 years behind the rest of Europe, wee Greg?

Paul C

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 1:45:32 PM6/13/06
to
On 13 Jun 2006 09:12:34 -0700, "anthony.j....@gmail.com"
<anthony.j....@gmail.com> wrote:

Euston Station, platform 7.

Paul C

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 1:46:44 PM6/13/06
to
On 13 Jun 2006 09:12:34 -0700, "anthony.j....@gmail.com"
<anthony.j....@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm sure Mr Gui is as Engerlish as Rabbie Henderson.

R.Peffers.

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 1:56:37 PM6/13/06
to

"The Bishop" <Conver...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150217856....@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
What you have to understand is that these poor, benighted juveniles are
products of the English education system.
Their reading skills are only marginally better than their comprehension
skills.
As for their ability to calculate, that is only marginally bettered by their
inability to fathom things out.
So the poor dears think the Scots are all on the dole and no Scot has ever
paid any tax to the United Kingdom's coffers, and even if they had done,
these poor dears would think that this is England's right and due.

The simple fact the Scots GDP exceeds that of England by a considerable
margin goes right over their little pointy heads.
As does the simple fact that all North Sea revenues are from Scottish waters
but are credited to the Continental Shelf rather than to Scotland.
Then their comprehension skills also preclude them from calculating the
portion of taxes earned by UK wide companies from Scotland that is paid at
head offices in London and are in fact also Scottish assets.
It never enters these ill educated English ruffians minds that the Barnett
Formula's sole raison d'être is to pay back to Scotland that portion of
England's UK funding that England has already spent.
In short they are so badly educated they are unable to understand the truth
of the matter is that Scotland has subsidised England for just under 300
years, (and I don't expect that the significance of that date means anything
to them either). Their geographic skills are no better than their historical
skills.

Let us set them a small test -

a),What is, "Guano"?
b), What is the name of the smallest sub-atomic particle?
c), What is the purpose of a, "Diuretic"?
d), Why are toilet seats hinged?
Let's see how they do with those questions.

R.Peffers.

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 2:06:58 PM6/13/06
to

"Paul C" <pa...@thersgb.net> wrote in message
news:4kst82t4pu57ve7dn...@4ax.com...
It must be fairly obvious the little one has never heard of the Scottish
Enlightenment nor of the European Enlightenment.

BTW: Did it ever get to England?

Perhaps the relevance of Burke & Hair is beyond his/her ken?
Perhaps the Education Act of 1496 is also above his/her head?
Perhaps, also, geology and Arthur's Seat don't add up to anything in his/her
little head?
Perhaps the Napier and logarithms mean nothing to her/him? (ad infinitem).

Paul C

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 2:31:29 PM6/13/06
to
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 19:06:58 +0100, "R.Peffers."
<peff...@btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>"Paul C" <pa...@thersgb.net> wrote in message
>news:4kst82t4pu57ve7dn...@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:06:59 +0100, "Greg Preston"
>> <surv...@virus.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Up to the point of union Scots social development was at least 100 years
>>>behind the rest of Europe, still is if you visit most Scots cities on a
>>>weekend.
>>>
>> Guffaw - coming from the land of the weekend lager lout that's quite
>> funny - even by your standards.
>>
>> In what way do you reckon that Scottish social development was at
>> least 100 years behind the rest of Europe, wee Greg?
>It must be fairly obvious the little one has never heard of the Scottish
>Enlightenment nor of the European Enlightenment.
>
>BTW: Did it ever get to England?

Well, I can't recall seeing the words "Enlightenment" and "England" in
the same sentence before.

'We look to Scotland for all our ideas of civilisation." Voltaire.

I wonder if wee Greg is aware that at the time Scotland was 100 years
behind Europe, Scotland with its far smaller population had 4
universities and England had 2. Scotland was the first country in the
world to introduce compulsory education which, judging by Greg's
efforts at the English language, still hasn't been introduced in
England.


'We look to Scotland for all our ideas of civilisation."
Voltaire

Magnus

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 2:36:04 PM6/13/06
to
Paul C <pa...@thersgb.net> wrote :

Not only that, Paul, but the muppet has listed a raft
of sciences and industries that were set up by Scots in the
first place.

I mean, jeez, but all credit to the English for a raft
of cultural, scientific and democratic progress, but you'd
think they'd have enough decent education that they would know
better than to carp about areas of Scots advancement in a post
that purports to criticise Scots.

Maybe Hattie has learned how to set up sock puppets.

Cheers,
M.

claire....@ntlworld.com

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 2:46:35 PM6/13/06
to

> > Robert Henderson
> > Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/ blairscandal/
> > Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
>
> There are two railway lines, the East Coast Main Line (from Kings X) and the
> West Coast Main Line (from Euston).
> You Scotch gits can board a train there and go back on a trip to Scotland,
> and don't come back.

Ahhh .... I'm tempted to go up to the highlands for a holiday, wish I
could find an excuse to go there on business so I could claim the cost
of an open return as an expense! I'm being sent to our Manchester
office this month though .... now tell me which you would prefer?

My colleague from New Zeeland turned to another colleague from
Australia today and informed her with a contemptuous tone 'Some English
people don't even like Scottish of Welsh people' ..... to which I
pointed out 'in some places they don't even like people from the next
village!'

claire....@ntlworld.com

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 3:29:27 PM6/13/06
to

Robert Henderson wrote:
> Flower of Scotland
>
>
> (Written by Roy Williamson of "The Corries")

Scottish anti-English songs come a poor second behind Irish ones you
know!

Greg Preston

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 3:31:26 PM6/13/06
to

> Perhaps the relevance of Burke & Hair is beyond his/her ken?
> Perhaps the Education Act of 1496 is also above his/her head?
> Perhaps, also, geology and Arthur's Seat don't add up to anything in
> his/her little head?
> Perhaps the Napier and logarithms mean nothing to her/him? (ad infinitem).
> --
>Tis a pity your average Scot never learned them.


Greg Preston

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 3:35:01 PM6/13/06
to

> Let us set them a small test -
>
> a),What is, "Guano"?
> b), What is the name of the smallest sub-atomic particle?
> c), What is the purpose of a, "Diuretic"?
> d), Why are toilet seats hinged?
> Let's see how they do with those questions.
> --
>What a very poor trap, had to be set up by a scot of course, Guano is what
>comes out of scots mouths, The Scotish average IQ is the smallest particle
>known, Diuretics and Scots have the same effect on ones metabolics, bog
>seats are hinged so its easier for Scots to throw up into them when phone
>boxes are not available


uNkulunkulu

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 6:15:38 PM6/13/06
to

"Greg Preston" <surv...@virus.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dPOdnUknUaT...@bt.com...


Even Rabbie Henderson has more culture and brains than you. All you are is
a phsychophantic twerp. The chip on your shoulder is as a large as Mount
Snowdon.. At first I thought you were trying to wind us up but I have since
realised that actually you are just another english imbecile, from a village
missing it's idiot.
--
VOTE FOR AN INDEPENDENT ENGLAND
VOTE SNP

uNkulunkulu
uMvelinqangi
Mina bona wena
mina bona lo mombi yena lo shatini
Skat lo Boss yena fika, nika yena iwhisky


uNkulunkulu

unread,
Jun 13, 2006, 6:17:36 PM6/13/06
to

"R.Peffers." <peff...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:ApKdnZERSsN...@bt.com...

I have always wondered why the english hate the Germans when they have
allowed themselves to be ruled by them for the past couple of hundred years.

Robert Henderson

unread,
Jun 14, 2006, 12:36:17 AM6/14/06
to
In message <er0u8219cm3mvtte8...@4ax.com>, Paul C
<pa...@thersgb.net> writes

>Well, I can't recall seeing the words "Enlightenment" and "England" in
>the same sentence before.

The English Enlightenment too place a century before the general
Enlightment with Shakespeare, Marlow, Johnson, Gilbert, Harvey, Wren,
Bacon, Hobbes, Locke, Newton, Hooke, Milton, Shaftsbury etc. RH

Robert Henderson

unread,
Jun 14, 2006, 12:37:11 AM6/14/06
to
In message <1150226967.0...@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
claire....@ntlworld.com writes
I do indeed know. RH

Boed...@isp.com

unread,
Jun 14, 2006, 1:49:30 AM6/14/06
to

I know!! I know!!! That's the name of that American soldier in Dr.
Strangelove, the one who shot into the Coca Cola machine so that
Group
Captain Lionel Mandrake could get some change to make a phone call.

> b), What is the name of the smallest sub-atomic particle?

Tiny?

> c), What is the purpose of a, "Diuretic"?

I know!! I know!! Those are the things they put into machines in
hotels so
that guests don't have to run to the chemists to make sure they can
have
sex without worrying about getting pregnant.

> d), Why are toilet seats hinged?

To stop home invaders from stealing them and selling them for
drugs.
Either that or to stop drunks from falling down the toilet and
drowning themselves.
I understand they are very popular in Glasgow.

Boed...@isp.com

unread,
Jun 14, 2006, 1:53:16 AM6/14/06
to

It's "English" Capital E. However you managed to spell Germany
correctly
and since when have the Germans been ruling England?


> --
> VOTE FOR AN INDEPENDENT ENGLAND
> VOTE SNP
>
> uNkulunkulu
> uMvelinqangi
> Mina bona wena
> mina bona lo mombi yena lo shatini
> Skat lo Boss yena fika, nika yena iwhisky

What part of Africa are you from?

Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Magnus

unread,
Jun 14, 2006, 4:17:36 AM6/14/06
to
Robert Henderson <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote :

> In message <1150226967.0...@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> claire....@ntlworld.com writes
>>
>>Robert Henderson wrote:
>>> Flower of Scotland
>>>
>>>
>>> (Written by Roy Williamson of "The Corries")
>>
>>Scottish anti-English songs come a poor second behind Irish ones you
>>know!
>>
> I do indeed know. RH

Anybody remember these English "scotophobe" lyrics?

Lord grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
And like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush.

God save the King

Greg Preston

unread,
Jun 14, 2006, 4:19:53 AM6/14/06
to

"uNkulunkulu" <iz...@kya.kamina> wrote in message
news:4QGjg.85543$wl.3...@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

>
> I have always wondered why the english hate the Germans when they have
> allowed themselves to be ruled by them for the past couple of hundred
> years.
> --
All the civilised nation of Europe have had inter marital set ups between
their Royal Families, Cept the Scots of course, Heck even the Roman Empire
who brought civilisation to most of the known world did not bother with the
Scots, knowing full well you can never civilise such creatures, They managed
with the Huns and Goths etc, but had the sense to build a wall to keep out
the totally unsalvagable Scots.


Greg Preston

unread,
Jun 14, 2006, 4:21:12 AM6/14/06
to

<claire....@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:1150226967.0...@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

But at least the Irish are useful, amicable in general, and are an asset to
the modern world, unlike a certain other bunch of celts


Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Magnus

unread,
Jun 14, 2006, 4:25:27 PM6/14/06
to
"Greg Preston" <surv...@virus.co.uk> wrote :

>
> "uNkulunkulu" <iz...@kya.kamina> wrote in message
> news:4QGjg.85543$wl.3...@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>
>> I have always wondered why the english hate the Germans when they
>> have allowed themselves to be ruled by them for the past couple of
>> hundred years.
>> --
> All the civilised nation of Europe have had inter marital set ups
> between their Royal Families, Cept the Scots of course,

We leave the inbreeding to the English.

Will.Cormack

unread,
Jun 14, 2006, 4:30:23 PM6/14/06
to

"Robert Henderson" <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:CrOv2igR...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
> Flower of Scotland
>
>
> (Written by Roy Williamson of "The Corries")
>

Hmmm. Anglophobic? Where does it mention England or the English?

Proud Edward? That was Edward II. Remind us who killed him. Hint: They
were from England.


Robert Henderson

unread,
Jun 14, 2006, 2:03:30 PM6/14/06
to
In message <ACPjg.386640$tc.2...@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, Magnus
<magnusUNDERS...@blueyonder.co.uk> writes

>>>know!
>>>
>> I do indeed know. RH
>
>Anybody remember these English "scotophobe" lyrics?
>
>Lord grant that Marshal Wade
>May by thy mighty aid
>Victory bring.
>May he sedition hush,
>And like a torrent rush,
>Rebellious Scots to crush.
>God save the King
>

Rarely if ever sung since 1760. rH

Robert Henderson

unread,
Jun 14, 2006, 2:04:24 PM6/14/06
to
In message <Xns97E277CF5...@80.5.182.99>, Pat Roller
<dontm...@here.com> writes
>
>You've been corrected on this garbage before. Most of those you list
>fall in the Reformation and Rennaisance era, which pre-dated the
>Enlightenment.

Other people's Enlightenment, the English were a century ahead. RH

Robert Henderson

unread,
Jun 15, 2006, 12:36:08 AM6/15/06
to
In message <Xg_jg.400880$xt.2...@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, Magnus
<magnusUNDERS...@blueyonder.co.uk> writes

Most of you leave any form of breeding to the English. RH

Robert Henderson

unread,
Jun 15, 2006, 12:35:31 AM6/15/06
to
In message <09-dnT2HHsZ...@bt.com>, Will.Cormack
<letsal...@rab.com> writes

>
>Hmmm. Anglophobic? Where does it mention England or the English?

All the way through as it refers to Bannockburn. Good to see the Scotch
have to go back 700 years to find a victory even a "home" one. RH


>
>Proud Edward? That was Edward II. Remind us who killed him. Hint:
>They were from England.

--

Magnus Paterson

unread,
Jun 15, 2006, 3:13:10 AM6/15/06
to
Robert Henderson <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in
news:rXTlpFD4...@anywhere.demon.co.uk:

> In message <Xg_jg.400880$xt.2...@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, Magnus
> <magnusUNDERS...@blueyonder.co.uk> writes
>>"Greg Preston" <surv...@virus.co.uk> wrote :
>>
>>>
>>> "uNkulunkulu" <iz...@kya.kamina> wrote in message
>>> news:4QGjg.85543$wl.3...@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>>
>>>> I have always wondered why the english hate the Germans when they
>>>> have allowed themselves to be ruled by them for the past couple of
>>>> hundred years.
>>>> --
>>> All the civilised nation of Europe have had inter marital set ups
>>> between their Royal Families, Cept the Scots of course,
>>
>>We leave the inbreeding to the English.
>
> Most of you leave any form of breeding to the English. RH

Nice try, but no banana, I'm afraid. England/Wales birthrate
down 2%, Scottish birthrate up 3% in 2004. Looks like your
lager louts are struggling to get it up.

Magnus Paterson

unread,
Jun 15, 2006, 3:16:24 AM6/15/06
to
Robert Henderson <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in
news:znZjFnCT...@anywhere.demon.co.uk:

> In message <09-dnT2HHsZ...@bt.com>, Will.Cormack
> <letsal...@rab.com> writes
>>
>>Hmmm. Anglophobic? Where does it mention England or the English?
>
> All the way through as it refers to Bannockburn. Good to see the Scotch
> have to go back 700 years to find a victory even a "home" one. RH

Nah, we had a home victory at Murrayfield recently. 25th February.

Message has been deleted

Boed...@isp.com

unread,
Jun 15, 2006, 4:12:19 PM6/15/06
to

Greg Preston wrote:
> "uNkulunkulu" <iz...@kya.kamina> wrote in message
> news:4QGjg.85543$wl.3...@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >
> > I have always wondered why the english hate the Germans when they have
> > allowed themselves to be ruled by them for the past couple of hundred
> > years.
-
> All the civilised nation of Europe have had inter marital set ups between
> their Royal Families, Cept the Scots of course,

Margaret Tudor, sister of Henry VIII married the King of *cotland
and James I
married a Danish Princess. George I was the great grandson of James
I.
which is the reason he become The King of The United Kingdom.

Heck even the Roman Empire
> who brought civilisation to most of the known world did not bother with the
> Scots, knowing full well you can never civilise such creatures, They managed
> with the Huns and Goths etc, but had the sense to build a wall to keep out
> the totally unsalvagable Scots.

The Wall should have been 30ft higher. Any chance of it being
rebuilt
to *those* specifications today? It certainly would have kept the
idiot
Blair out and would have saved the lives of many British soldiers.

According to glug, the "english" (he obviously is unfamiliar with
English
syntax, otherwise he would know that proper nouns require a Capital
first letter),
"hate the Germans". He then insists that The Queen is German
because
of her descendency from George I. He obviously then believes that
the English
people hate themselves, since they are descended from the Saxons of
Germany.

So much for *cottish education.

Message has been deleted

Boed...@isp.com

unread,
Jun 17, 2006, 4:04:17 AM6/17/06
to

Guig wrote:

> On 15 Jun 2006 13:12:19 -0700, Boed...@isp.com wrote:
>
> > According to glug, the "english" (he obviously is unfamiliar with
> >English
> > syntax, otherwise he would know that proper nouns require a Capital
> >first letter),
>
> Can you point me to the message where I failed to capitalise, I don't
> believe it is in this thread.

I'll find it and let you know.
>
> > "hate the Germans".
>
> Your media takes every opportunity to attack them, especially when
> there is a football match on, perhaps you can tell me why it is wrong
> for the Scots to take the piss out of you but OK for you to write some
> of the most jingoistic and racist bilge about the Germans?

First, the *cots are British *not a foreign nation and should
support British
sports teams, not those of a foreign nation. The Germans are not a
"rac


>
> > He then insists that The Queen is German
> >because of her descendency from George I.

> You wanted to know when the Germans ruled "England". You obviously
> don't remember the "Windsor" family being the Saxe-Coburgs until 1917
> when they thought that having a German name while fighting same wasn't
> a good idea.


>
> > He obviously then believes that
> >the English people hate themselves, since they are descended from the Saxons of
> >Germany.
>

> Can you please point out in any of my posts where I say that the
> English hate "themselves".

Let's see if I can make it simple for you.

1) The English people hate the Germans.
2) The Queen is German.

England is named for the Anglos who came from Germany, ergo the
English
*are* German and therefore apparently hate themselves according to
you.

George I was a Saxe Coburg but he was also a Stuart, *that's* how he
became King of The United Kingdom. Birthplaces count for nothing in
Royalty, it is only bloodlines that count. Prince Philip was born in
Greece,
but doesn't have a drop of Greek blood in him. He is the great, great
grandson
of Queen Victoria as is The Queen.

Magnus

unread,
Jun 17, 2006, 4:08:09 AM6/17/06
to
Boed...@isp.com wrote :

> He is the great,
> great
> grandson
> of Queen Victoria as is The Queen.
>
>

Interesting. When did she have the operation?

Message has been deleted

Big Bill

unread,
Jun 17, 2006, 11:55:09 AM6/17/06
to

Paul C

unread,
Jun 17, 2006, 1:33:45 PM6/17/06
to
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 10:02:48 +0100, Guig <yeraw...@hame.jistnoo>
wrote:

>On 17 Jun 2006 01:04:17 -0700, Boed...@isp.com wrote:
>

>> First, the *cots are British *not a foreign nation and should
>>support British
>> sports teams, not those of a foreign nation.
>

>Firstly, in footballing terms, under UEFA and FIA regulations, England
>*is* a "foreign" nation.

Given Boedicia's lack of comprehension of most things, I think
expecting her to understand the intracies of football is one step too
far.

claire....@ntlworld.com

unread,
Jun 17, 2006, 3:02:00 PM6/17/06
to

> England is named for the Anglos who came from Germany, ergo the
> English
> *are* German and therefore apparently hate themselves according to
> you.
>


Watch who you call a German would you!!! ;-)

claire....@ntlworld.com

unread,
Jun 17, 2006, 3:04:50 PM6/17/06
to

> England is named for the Anglos who came from Germany, ergo the
> English
> *are* German and therefore apparently hate themselves according to
> you.
>

Ich wende ein! Ich bin nicht ein Deutscher! :-/

claire....@ntlworld.com

unread,
Jun 17, 2006, 4:45:58 PM6/17/06
to

I knew it, I knew it!

Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Jackie Mulheron

unread,
Jun 18, 2006, 7:20:43 PM6/18/06
to

And where is it Anglophobe?


Boed...@isp.com

unread,
Jun 18, 2006, 9:41:58 PM6/18/06
to

Malcolm wrote:
> In article <1150531457.4...@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> Boed...@isp.com writes

> > 2) The Queen is German.

And the resident *cots airhead obviously didn't bother to read who
I was
quoting.
> >
> More nonsense from the pretendy soldier.

Bo. Sgt. WRAF.

Naturally, you never served unless you crossed the water and joined
the
vile IRA who along with the "*cots nats went to Germany during WW2
to set up German/*cottish alliance against England".
Telegraph May 9th. 2001

Better a Sgt in the WRAF than a filthy traitor.


> --
> Malcolm

Rifkind?

Boed...@isp.com

unread,
Jun 18, 2006, 9:48:08 PM6/18/06
to

Guig wrote:
> On 17 Jun 2006 01:04:17 -0700, Boed...@isp.com wrote:
>
> > First, the *cots are British *not a foreign nation and should
> >support British sports teams,
>
> Perhaps you should have a word with your pal Robert Henderson, he
> doesn't support any team competing under the banner of Great Britain.

The team isn't playing under the banner of Gt. Britain. They are an
English team. However the last time I looked the *cots and English
were both citizens of the same nation - The United Kingdom with the
same Head of State, Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. Your
bigotry against the English is shameful and the sooner you lot leave
The Kingdom the better, it will one less enemy the English have to
worry
about. Being stabbed in the back by ones neighbour is a vile thing
to contemplate.
It's bad enough when the vile IRA do it even as millions of Irish
live in
England.

snip silly sig, what a waste of space.

Robert Henderson

unread,
Jun 19, 2006, 12:35:38 AM6/19/06
to
In message <4fm5e5F...@individual.net>, Jackie Mulheron
<JackieM...@aol.com> writes

>> Proud Edward's Army,
>> And sent him homeward,
>> Tae think again.
>
>And where is it Anglophobe?

Celebrating a Scotch victory over the English. Next! RH

Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Steve Day

unread,
Jun 19, 2006, 4:06:40 PM6/19/06
to

>
> BTW we're still waiting on you providing proof that you congratulated
> Kelly Holmes and the 4x100m team, and you explanation of the year on
> year tennis rankings.
> --
Oh she is soooooo Scottish, her clan must have roots going back at least a
fortnight. Kelly Holmes is not one iota of Scottishness about her, She is
popular, successful, speaks so decent people can understand her and quite
attractive, proof that she is not a real scot, the successful bit clarifies
that, oh and she is modest, so she can not be scottish.


Robert Henderson

unread,
Jun 19, 2006, 8:30:29 AM6/19/06
to
In message <5nec92pbvk0u39252...@4ax.com>, Guig
<yeraw...@hame.jistnoo> writes

>On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:35:38 +0100, Robert Henderson
><phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In message <4fm5e5F...@individual.net>, Jackie Mulheron
>><JackieM...@aol.com> writes
>>>> Proud Edward's Army,
>>>> And sent him homeward,
>>>> Tae think again.
>>>
>>>And where is it Anglophobe?
>>
>>Celebrating a Scotch victory over the English. Next! RH
>
>And how is celebrating your history "Anglophobe"? The UK "national"
>anthem celebrates "crushing rebellious Scots" so that is a
>"Scotophobe" song. but I bet you sing that verse with gusto.
>

Crushing the Scotch who are rebellious not crushing the Scotch
generally. The verse has not been sung on official occasions for at
least 200 years. Rh

>BTW we're still waiting on you providing proof that you congratulated
>Kelly Holmes and the 4x100m team, and you explanation of the year on
>year tennis rankings.

--

Robert Henderson

unread,
Jun 20, 2006, 12:29:42 AM6/20/06
to
In message <5nec92pbvk0u39252...@4ax.com>, Guig
<yeraw...@hame.jistnoo> writes
>On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:35:38 +0100, Robert Henderson
><phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In message <4fm5e5F...@individual.net>, Jackie Mulheron
>><JackieM...@aol.com> writes
>>>> Proud Edward's Army,
>>>> And sent him homeward,
>>>> Tae think again.
>>>
>>>And where is it Anglophobe?
>>
>>Celebrating a Scotch victory over the English. Next! RH
>
>And how is celebrating your history "Anglophobe"? The UK "national"
>anthem celebrates "crushing rebellious Scots" so that is a
>"Scotophobe" song. but I bet you sing that verse with gusto.

Mmmm....how about an English anthem celebrating all the English
victories over the Scotch? It would of course be a very long one. RH


>
>BTW we're still waiting on you providing proof that you congratulated
>Kelly Holmes and the 4x100m team, and you explanation of the year on
>year tennis rankings.

--

Boed...@isp.com

unread,
Jun 20, 2006, 5:49:29 PM6/20/06
to

Malcolm wrote:
> In article <1150681318.5...@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> Boed...@isp.com writes

> >
> >Malcolm wrote:
> >> In article <1150531457.4...@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> >> Boed...@isp.com writes
> >> > 2) The Queen is German.
> >
> > And the resident *cots airhead obviously didn't bother to read who
> >I was
> > quoting.
>
> The fact that you were quoting does not reduce the nonsense factor.

>
> >> >
> >> More nonsense from the pretendy soldier.
> >
> > Bo. Sgt. WRAF.
> >
> So you claim, yet have wriggled and wriggled whenever you've been asked
> for proof. All you have to do is to post your service number here. You
> aren't prevented from doing so, as you risibly claimed, prohibited under
> the Official Secrets Act.

>
> > Naturally, you never served unless you crossed the water and joined
> >the
> > vile IRA who along with the "*cots nats went to Germany during WW2
> > to set up German/*cottish alliance against England".
> > Telegraph May 9th. 2001
> >
> ROFL!

I don't find it amusing, it find it vile and disgusting.

> > Better a Sgt in the WRAF than a filthy traitor.

> Indeed, but your claim to have been a sergeant in the WRAF lacks all
> proof, doesn't it? After all, you can hardly expect us to take your
> word for it, can you?

Yes and if my word isn't good enough then you know what you can do,
you
daft little nitnat. As I've said before what makes you think that I
care
what a bunch of *cots fairies believe or don't believe. From the
drivel I've seen in
scs the IQ of all of put together doesn't run to double digits.
>
> --
> Malcolm

Boed...@isp.com

unread,
Jun 20, 2006, 5:49:28 PM6/20/06
to

Malcolm wrote:
> In article <1150681318.5...@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> Boed...@isp.com writes
> >
> >Malcolm wrote:
> >> In article <1150531457.4...@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> >> Boed...@isp.com writes
> >> > 2) The Queen is German.
> >
> > And the resident *cots airhead obviously didn't bother to read who
> >I was
> > quoting.
>
> The fact that you were quoting does not reduce the nonsense factor.
>
> >> >
> >> More nonsense from the pretendy soldier.
> >
> > Bo. Sgt. WRAF.
> >
> So you claim, yet have wriggled and wriggled whenever you've been asked
> for proof. All you have to do is to post your service number here. You
> aren't prevented from doing so, as you risibly claimed, prohibited under
> the Official Secrets Act.
>
> > Naturally, you never served unless you crossed the water and joined
> >the
> > vile IRA who along with the "*cots nats went to Germany during WW2
> > to set up German/*cottish alliance against England".
> > Telegraph May 9th. 2001
> >
> ROFL!

I don't find it amusing, it find it vile and disgusting.

> > Better a Sgt in the WRAF than a filthy traitor.

> Indeed, but your claim to have been a sergeant in the WRAF lacks all

Boed...@isp.com

unread,
Jun 20, 2006, 5:56:59 PM6/20/06
to

Guig wrote:

> On 18 Jun 2006 18:48:08 -0700, Boed...@isp.com wrote:
>
> >
> >Guig wrote:
> >> On 17 Jun 2006 01:04:17 -0700, Boed...@isp.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > First, the *cots are British *not a foreign nation and should
> >> >support British sports teams,
> >>
> >> Perhaps you should have a word with your pal Robert Henderson, he
> >> doesn't support any team competing under the banner of Great Britain.
> >
> > The team isn't playing under the banner of Gt. Britain.
>
> My point exactly from a few posts back.

>
> > They are an English team.
>
> AND UNDER FIFA REGULATIONS THEY ARE A FOREIGN TEAM! So why should we
> be forced to support them?

Because you and they are part of The United Kingdom with the same
Head of
State, same passport, same national flag, neighbours etc. etc. etc.
??

Last time I looked it was still a free country.

What "country" are you referring to?

> You never answered the question about whether or not you'd support the
> Scots if the situations were reversed?

Yes. Because we are citizens of the same nation, I supported the *cot
curling
team in The Olympics. My only "bigotry" against the *cots is the
moronic,
treacherous nitnats who would break up The Kingdom simply because of
their
inferiority complex and ancient hatreds.

And I assume you've sent a
> stiff letter to David Beckham chastising him for saying he wouldn't
> support the Scots if they were playing.

If he said *that* he was wrong, now tell us *why*he said it?


>
> > However the last time I looked the *cots and English
> > were both citizens of the same nation - The United Kingdom with the
> > same Head of State, Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.
>

> Yes, and when a team is playing under that banner they'll have my full
> support.


>
> > Your
> > bigotry against the English is shameful and the sooner you lot leave
> > The Kingdom the better, it will one less enemy the English have to
> >worry about. Being stabbed in the back by ones neighbour is a vile thing
> >to contemplate. It's bad enough when the vile IRA do it even as millions of Irish
> >live in England.
>

> Dear oh dear oh dear, what a load of drivel. BTW


>
> >
> > snip silly sig, what a waste of space.
>

> Sig put back in just to annoy the fuck out of you.


snip silly sig, waste of space.

Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

R.Peffers.

unread,
Jun 21, 2006, 6:06:46 PM6/21/06
to

"Guig" <yeraw...@hame.jistnoo> wrote in message
news:6jqh92ph3sojbo5c6...@4ax.com...

> On 20 Jun 2006 14:56:59 -0700, Boed...@isp.com wrote:
>
>>> AND UNDER FIFA REGULATIONS THEY ARE A FOREIGN TEAM! So why should we
>>> be forced to support them?
>>
>> Because you and they are part of The United Kingdom with the same
>>Head of
>> State, same passport, same national flag, neighbours etc. etc. etc.
>>??
>
> In the terms of this sport we don't have the same national flag, don't
> have the same anthem, and being neighbours has nothing to do with it.
> It's only you English that are getting your knickers in a twist over
> it, you don't hear us complaining that you, or the Welsh, or the Irish
> don't support us when we compete. You'd find that more Scots would
> cheer you on if you didn't just stand there and say "you *must*
> support England".

>
>>
>>Last time I looked it was still a free country.
>>
>> What "country" are you referring to?
>
> Britain.

Britain is not a country. It may be a state but country it is not.
It is a political union, or state, composed of four countries.


>
>>
>>> You never answered the question about whether or not you'd support the
>>> Scots if the situations were reversed?
>>
>>Yes. Because we are citizens of the same nation, I supported the *cot
>>curling
>> team in The Olympics.
>

> The team which competes in the Olympics is British and so deserve the
> support of everyone in Britain. Well, apart from Mr Henderson who only
> supports English teams, and only English teams made up of people who
> fit *his* definition of "English". Non-whites need not apply as far as
> he is concerned. He spouts far more bigotry towards the rest of the UK
> than the Scots ever do towards England.


>
>
>> And I assume you've sent a
>>> stiff letter to David Beckham chastising him for saying he wouldn't
>>> support the Scots if they were playing.
>>
>> If he said *that* he was wrong, now tell us *why*he said it?
>

> He said it because he was asked the question, and was honest in his
> reply. I'm sure if you asked the other players the same question
> they'd answer the same way.
>
> --
> "Always look behind you when you hear the closing of the door ... look
> hard and you will recognise ... I'm the Architect of War."
>
> Grace, Pulling Strings And Shiny Things, 1994.
--

Robert Peffers,
Kelty,
Fife,
Scotland, (UK).
(When replying take pam away from peffers.
Scotland).


R.Peffers.

unread,
Jun 21, 2006, 6:24:49 PM6/21/06
to

"Robert Henderson" <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:$jVgEgMl...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...

> In message <5nec92pbvk0u39252...@4ax.com>, Guig
> <yeraw...@hame.jistnoo> writes
>>On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 05:35:38 +0100, Robert Henderson
>><phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <4fm5e5F...@individual.net>, Jackie Mulheron
>>><JackieM...@aol.com> writes
>>>>> Proud Edward's Army,
>>>>> And sent him homeward,
>>>>> Tae think again.
>>>>
>>>>And where is it Anglophobe?
>>>
>>>Celebrating a Scotch victory over the English. Next! RH
>>
>>And how is celebrating your history "Anglophobe"? The UK "national"
>>anthem celebrates "crushing rebellious Scots" so that is a
>>"Scotophobe" song. but I bet you sing that verse with gusto.
>>
>
> Crushing the Scotch who are rebellious not crushing the Scotch generally.
> The verse has not been sung on official occasions for at least 200 years.
> Rh

What utter rot.

The conflict that anthem was written for was nothing to do with a Scottish
vs English conflict.
It was a war between two claimants for the crown. Not for the ENGLISH CROWN,
not for the SCOTTISH CROWN but for the UNITED KINGDOM crown.

What is more the one wearing the crown was a German and actually 25th in
line to that crown while BPC's claim was very much closer.than his.
The simple fact was BPC had the best claim and if it was not for him being A
Catholic he would have been the King of the UK.

As it was the one wearing the UNITED KINGDOM crown was a German and the
Royal family to this day are a German family. Just remember Kaiser Bill was
the British King's first cousin.

Whatever else it was it was certainly NOT a Scottish/English affair.


>
>>BTW we're still waiting on you providing proof that you congratulated
>>Kelly Holmes and the 4x100m team, and you explanation of the year on
>>year tennis rankings.
>
> --
> Robert Henderson
> Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/ blairscandal/
> Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk

--

R.Peffers.

unread,
Jun 21, 2006, 6:36:17 PM6/21/06
to

"Steve Day" <steve...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:DoadnWtrWat...@bt.com...
Who ever claimed she WAS Scottish?
That was not the point being made.
Here are the facts -
Holmes was born in Pembury, Kent, the mixed-race daughter of Derrick Holmes,
Jamaican-born car mechanic, and an English mother, Pam Norman. Her mother,
only 18 at the time of Kelly's birth, would marry painter and decorator
Michael Norris two years later, whom Kelly regards as her father, and they
had four children together before divorcing. She grew up in Hildenborough
and attended Hugh Christie Comprehensive School in Tonbridge.

Just to stop your very large jump to conclusions, what was being said was
that a certain poster does nor regard any coloured person as being English.

As you will observe Dame Kelly was English born and had an English mother
and a Jamaican father so as far as that certain person is concerned she is
not English.

Whatever gave you the idea someone thought her Scottish?

Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

Will.Cormack

unread,
Jun 26, 2006, 3:43:00 PM6/26/06
to

"Magnus Paterson" <m...@roe.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns97E354292A...@129.215.38.11...

> Robert Henderson <phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in
> news:znZjFnCT...@anywhere.demon.co.uk:
>
> > In message <09-dnT2HHsZ...@bt.com>, Will.Cormack
> > <letsal...@rab.com> writes
> >>
> >>Hmmm. Anglophobic? Where does it mention England or the English?
> >
> > All the way through as it refers to Bannockburn. Good to see the Scotch
> > have to go back 700 years to find a victory even a "home" one. RH

It was a foregone conclusion. The English made the fatal mistake of having
an Englishman manage their team. Not much changes.

>
> Nah, we had a home victory at Murrayfield recently. 25th February.

What? But, but, but this is a Golden Age! Surely you jest?


0 new messages