Science2.0 workshop @ ECTEL

[Erik Duval]

During the ongoing STELLAR review meeting in Luxembourg, we discussed the idea of doing another Science2.0 workshop at ECTEL this year.

It seems like there is considerable interest to organize such a workshop ;-)

I've arranged for a few days extra to get this organized with Daniel Burgos, who chairs the ECTEL workshop program.

Still, we should submit the proposal by Wednesday next week...

From the ECTEL web site:
EC-TEL 2010 offers the opportunity to host several workshops. Parties interested to organize a workshop are asked to submit a proposal of max. 4 pages outlining the theme of the workshop, workshop format, expected participants and domains addressed, dissemination activities, programme committee, and organizational requirements.

I have set up a wiki to prepare the proposal at http://ariadne.cs.kuleuven.be/mediawiki2/index.php/Science2.0_ECTEL10.

Can you please:
- indicate that you're interested to help with the organization of the workshop by adding your name to the Programme Committee
- add to the wiki whatever you think will help to prepare the proposal

For now, I would suggest to keep both the scitel20 googlegroup as well as the wp2 mailing list of stellar involved. We can then spin this off to a separate mailing list if necessary later on.

ANY comment and suggestion is welcome!

(I will have very sparse access to my mail until Friday evening, but will catch up with the discussion over the weekend....)

VERY much looking forward to working with you on this endeavor!

--Erik Duval
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[Xavier Ochoa]

I will be very interested in help with the workshop, however I will not be able to attend (LACLO event is the same week).

I made some edits with some ideas in the wiki.

Kind regards,

Xavier

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[Erik Duval]

MANY thanks to all who provided input!

I have cleaned up a bit the wiki page at http://ariadne.cs.kuleuven.be/mediawiki2/index.php/Science2.0_ECTEL10

Please make your final edits before Tuesday 18h00 Brussels time.

Then I will once more clean up and send the result to Daniel as an ECTEL10 workshop submission.

Kind regards,

-- Erik Duval
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On 17 Apr 2010, at 21:31, Nina Heinze wrote:

> If anyone would like to add to the Wiki about the Sceince 2.0 workshop at
> ECTEL please do so =)

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[Erik Duval]

Good news! Just received the following message:

---begin---
your workshop proposal at ECTEL2010 is accepted. Congratulations! 21 quality proposals have been submitted and only 9 workshops have been selected

Let me remind you that your workshop should encourage an active discussion. I suggest you use some group techniques to achieve this, so that you avoid the mini-conference format (usual paper presentation with discussion at the end)

Be aware that the workshops will be finally organized if there are sufficient participants. Since there must be a minimum number of participants to run the workshop, we encourage you to carry out a smart and active promotion. To this end, the information about the workshop will be published at the www.ectel2010.org. Please, contact Maren Scheffel (maren.s...@fit.fraunhofer.de) for any additional information about this issue

From now on, we will follow a common timeline for all the workshops:

Paper submission, June 27th

Paper acceptance, July 11th

1st. check-point about attendance, July 12th

At this point, if your workshop does not gather people enough to go on, we might consider to withdraw it from the selected workshops

At the end of May, I will contact you again for further details (e.g. timeslot), and to check the current status of your workshop

May I ask you to upload your proposal to Easychair (http://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=ectel2010workshops)? It will be of a great help to track and coordinate all the workshops

Thank you so much for your attractive proposal. Looking forward to meeting you in Spain, my best regards,

Daniel Burgos

ECTEL 2010 Workshop Chair
---end---

I would suggest that we try to get the call out sometime next week. At this time, it would be good to get your additional suggestions. I will then draft something by end of this week.

MANY thanks for all your contributions!

-- Erik Duval
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[Erik Duval]

Sorry for the delay: have finally been able to draft a call for papers. It is available at
http://ariadne.cs.kuleuven.be/mediawiki2/index.php/Call_for_Papers

Can I ask you to have a look at this draft and send your comments before Monday 18h00?

Then I would propose to send the call to the following mailing lists:
- stellar
- ariadne
- dbworld
- role
- ah
Any additional suggestions?

Feedback very welcome!

Do enjoy the weekend,

--Erik Duval
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[Fridolin Wild]

Hi Erik,

since the generic workshop submission deadline is
so early, I would propose to ask for 2-page abstracts
first -- upon which acceptance will be decided
and either go for full-papers afterwards, or
drop the full papers to go for a special issue
in e.g. IJTEL?

What do you think?

The deadline Daniel Burgos enforces is June 26
and I have asked him -- he insists on not
changing it because (he says) in Barcelona it
will be impossible to get a hotel room if
people know about their acceptance much later.

Best,
Fridolin

p.s.: it is a pity in my view, but I think it is
just too little time otherwise. Or are short
papers already sufficiently short? I am not too
sure: often an honest 2-page abstract is much
better to get a feeling for the contribution
than a hastily written 4 pager without flesh.

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The Open University, Walton Hall, Milton Keynes, MK7 6AA, UK
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[Wolfgang Reinhardt]

Hi all,

I think it is a good idea to first ask for 2-page abstracts that clearly deliver the idea of what will be presented. We can then decide about acceptance by June 26 and give people more time for their full paper.

Best
Wolle

[Erik Duval]

Thanks for the issues raised so far: very useful!

1) I have added the important dates to the call at http://ariadne.cs.kuleuven.be/mediawiki2/index.php/Call_for_Papers.

2) I'm a bit worried about reducing the number of pages to drastically. I often find it difficult to accept contributions if they are nothing but a very generic abstract. Maybe we can change the paper categories to
- short papers (3-5 pages)
• Full papers: (5-8 pages)
After all, there are still more than four weeks before the deadline?

3) Shall we ask people to submit to Easychair? Or just by email? Or through alternative means?

Please do keep the feedback coming, so that I can send out the call on Monday evening!

Kind regards,



-- Erik Duval
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[Joris Klerkx]

Aspect? Icoper? 

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[Wolfgang Reinhardt]

Hey,

1) I'd like to add the summer/winterschool mailing lists as another means for disseminating the cfp.

2) Maybe you're right Erik. On the other hand an additional deadline for abstracts would give us at least a better feeling what people will contribute. What about an additional deadline (may be 03.06.) for the 2-pagers. We could then decide until 08.06. about acceptance and people would still could meet the official 27.06. deadline?!

3) My vote goes to Easychair.

Best
Wolle

[Peter Kraker]

Hi all,

as for the submission/review process, I would find it quite interesting to keep it a bit more open and organise it in e.g. a group on TEL Europe. I am fine with any other established means as well though.

Kind regards,
Peter

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Hey,

1) I'd like to add the summer/winterschool mailing lists as another means for disseminating the cfp.

2) Maybe you're right Erik. On the other hand an additional deadline for abstracts would give us at least a better feeling what people will contribute. What about an additional deadline (may be 03.06.) for the 2-pagers. We could then decide until 08.06. about acceptance and people would still could meet the official 27.06. deadline?!

3) My vote goes to Easychair.

Best
Wolle

On 22 May 2010, at 21:56, Erik Duval wrote:

> Thanks for the issues raised so far: very useful!
>
> 1) I have added the important dates to the call at http://ariadne.cs.kuleuven.be/mediawiki2/index.php/Call_for_Papers.
>
> 2) I'm a bit worried about reducing the number of pages to drastically. I often find it difficult to accept contributions if they are nothing but a very generic abstract. Maybe we can change the paper categories to
> - short papers (3-5 pages)

> * Full papers: (5-8 pages)

> After all, there are still more than four weeks before the deadline?
>
> 3) Shall we ask people to submit to Easychair? Or just by email? Or through alternative means?
>
> Please do keep the feedback coming, so that I can send out the call on Monday evening!
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> -- Erik Duval

> http://erikduval.wordpress.com <http://erikduval.wordpress.com/>

>>>>> http://erikduval.wordpress.com <http://erikduval.wordpress.com/>

>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19 Apr 2010, at 10:35, Erik Duval wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> MANY thanks to all who provided input!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have cleaned up a bit the wiki page at http://ariadne.cs.kuleuven.be/mediawiki2/index.php/Science2.0_ECTEL10
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please make your final edits before Tuesday 18h00 Brussels time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then I will once more clean up and send the result to Daniel as an ECTEL10 workshop submission.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Erik Duval

>>>>>> http://erikduval.wordpress.com <http://erikduval.wordpress.com/>

[Fridolin Wild]

Hi Erik,

> 2) I'm a bit worried about reducing the number of pages
> to drastically. I often find it difficult to accept
> contributions if they are nothing but a very generic
> abstract. Maybe we can change the paper categories to
> - short papers (3-5 pages)
> • Full papers: (5-8 pages)
> After all, there are still more than four weeks before the deadline?

3 pages as a minimum sounds good to me!

> 3) Shall we ask people to submit to Easychair?
> Or just by email? Or through alternative means?

preferably EasyChair!

Best,
Fridolin

[Thomas Ullmann]

Dear all,

I created a group on TELeurope for the Research 2.0 workshop:
http://www.teleurope.eu/pg/groups/10400/research-20/ or even better
(for twitter and co): http://qone.eu/s2t (this will redirect to the
teleurope page).

The group is open and everyone can join. To keep track about the
discussion add yourself to the group and then under Settings you will
find "Group notifications". There you can choose how you would like to
get informed about the changes in the group. The settings under
"Notifications" allow also an easy update about what is going on in
your whole network.

The proposed hashtag is: #sci2tel

Open Peer Review:
What about if we suggest that the participants can open a new page for
their writings in this group, with access settings "Group Research2.0"
and write access "Group Research2.0"?

Best,

Thomas

[Erik Duval]

Excellent: many thanks, Thomas...

Just a small remark: I would change the hashtag to #res2tel, to reflect the more inclusive label of Research2.0 rather than Science2.0?

And a bigger remark: I have created an easychair account for the workshop and have referred folks to that, among others in the call for papers. I would suggest that folks can work in the open on their submission in the way you suggest, but that we will do the actual review through easychair, in a more 'conventional' way...

Again: thanks for taking care of this!

-- Erik Duval
http://erikduval.wordpress.com

[Thomas Ullmann]

I changed the tag to #res2tel and I wrote a "getting started" page:
http://www.teleurope.eu/pg/pages/view/10868/
This page is editable for all members of the group. Take a look. I am
happy for comments. It is meant to describe a bit more the research
2.0 process before the paper submission to easychair. So quite an
important bit. I am also fine with any other process for this, we just
should outline our process early, so that we actually have time for
research 2.0 practice.

Would be great if you use the short URL http://qone.eu/s2t to link to
the research 2.0 group as mentioned earlier. We would get some nice
stats with this.

Thomas

On May 30, 9:06 pm, Erik Duval <erik.du...@cs.kuleuven.be> wrote:
> Excellent: many thanks, Thomas...
>
> Just a small remark: I would change the hashtag to #res2tel, to reflect the more inclusive label of Research2.0 rather than Science2.0?
>
> And a bigger remark: I have created an easychair account for the workshop and have referred folks to that, among others in the call for papers. I would suggest that folks can work in the open on their submission in the way you suggest, but that we will do the actual review through easychair, in a more 'conventional' way...
>
> Again: thanks for taking care of this!
>

> -- Erik Duvalhttp://erikduval.wordpress.com

>
> On 30 May 2010, at 16:14, Thomas Ullmann wrote:
>
>
>
> > Dear all,
>
> > I created a group on TELeurope for the Research 2.0 workshop:

> >http://www.teleurope.eu/pg/groups/10400/research-20/or even better
> > (for twitter and co):http://qone.eu/s2t(this will redirect to the

[Erik Duval]

I'm happy to try this, but would caution against positioning this as a 'better approach'... Maybe we can do this under the title of 'Do you want to participate in an experiment'?

And should we also make explicit that the outcome of this experiment, i.e. the actual submissions, will be evaluated in exactly the same way as other submissions?

In any case, MANY thanks to Thomas for taking care of this!

Would be interested in the views that others have...

--Erik Duval
http://erikduval.wordpress.com/