Scite 4.20 slow to load files

[Mike Ray]

Hello

I just installed SciTE 4.20 from the MSI installer on a newly installed
Windows 10 machine.

It loads any files very, very slowly.

For example, if I pick the 'open global options file' menu item, it
takes about eight seconds to load.

This is true of any file.

Is this a known issue with 4.20?

Mike

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[Neil Hodgson]

Mike Ray:

> It loads any files very, very slowly.
>
> For example, if I pick the 'open global options file' menu item, it
> takes about eight seconds to load.

This is the first report I have seen of this problem.

I just tried installing from the MSI installers and file opening was rapid with both the 32- and 64-bit versions.

Neil

[Mike Ray]

I will try cross-compiling on Linux using mingw, which is the way I
usually get SciTE for Windows, and see if it is any different.

Also, with NVDA screen reader, it is not readable first few seconds
after file loads.

I guess file might be loaded but NVDA is unable to read it for a while.

Very odd, not something I have seen before either.

[Mike Ray]

Hello,

I think this relates to accessibility on Windows.

I cannot tell, as I am totally blind, but I think files may load fast,
but the NVDA screen reader is not able to read the contents for about
ten seconds or so. It may be that NVDA does not speak until there are
key presses.

I have tried to disable all the NVDA add-ons I have installed, and there
is no difference.

So, currently, Windows accessibility with the NVDA Open Source screen
reader is broken. It was fine in my last version of SciTE, which I
think was about 3.6.6 or so.

Also, SciTE does not work completely with the Windows internal screen
reader Narrator.

These problems make SciTE's latest versions unusable for the blind
programmer using NVDA or Narrator.

I cannot speak for Jaws.

Mike

On 25/10/2019 21:23, 'Neil Hodgson' via scite-interest wrote:

[Neil Hodgson]

Mike Ray:

> I think this relates to accessibility on Windows.
>
> I cannot tell, as I am totally blind, but I think files may load fast,
> but the NVDA screen reader is not able to read the contents for about
> ten seconds or so. It may be that NVDA does not speak until there are
> key presses.
>
> I have tried to disable all the NVDA add-ons I have installed, and there
> is no difference.
>
> So, currently, Windows accessibility with the NVDA Open Source screen
> reader is broken. It was fine in my last version of SciTE, which I
> think was about 3.6.6 or so.

4.2.0 fixed a bug with NVDA where SciTE crashed.

In June, after a Windows update, SciTE started crashing for me. I’m unsure whether NVDA was re-enabled on my machine or the Windows update changed something or there was an automatic update to NVDA. A similar failure was later reported by others.

The crash occurred when NVDA asked for the contents of the Scintilla window but only wanted the first section so passed a buffer smaller than the file along with the length of the buffer. Scintilla ignored the length and wrote past the end of the buffer causing a crash. This was fixed in 4.2.0 and is documented as bug #2110.

https://sourceforge.net/p/scintilla/bugs/2110/

Neil

[Mike Ray]

Well, I can't tell at what point what is going wrong is going wrong.

But when I launch 4.2.0 (no file, just SciTE launched), it starts, and
then NVDA goes silent for a while after first text is typed.

This behaviour continues to happen. With text spoken for a short while
followed by another period of silence.

I have tried moving focus to see if it happens when focus moves away
from SciTE, but that does not seem to be relevant.

Loading an existing file has similar behaviour, but SciTE does not speak
right away and appears to be taking about ten seconds or so to load
file. I suspect it is loading as fast as ever but NVDA is just silent.


Mike