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YOU THINK I AM A SUCKER , John ( R ) Smith?

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Luis A. Afonso

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Nov 15, 2007, 2:50:47 AM11/15/07
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YOU THINK I AM A SUCKER , John ( R ) Smith?

John

You think I am a SUCKER?
BY PHONE, NEVE EVER!!!!!!
I DEMAND Hubert W, Lilliefors to deny here, in Sci Stat Math. his assertion (I copied EXACTLY FROM THE PAPER) that using HIS TABLE WE ARE able to get CONFIDENCE INTERVALS of the K-S TEXT .when the Population mean and std, deviation are unknown.
What a CRIMINAL evasive: YOU ARE AN INDECENT LIAR
PHONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(I expect yet – the PHONE TRICK – from you )
ARE YOU AWARE THAT NOBOBY BELIEVE IN THAT PHONE????????
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Luis Amaral Afonso

Luis A. Afonso

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Nov 15, 2007, 5:46:11 AM11/15/07
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Do you believe (DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE) that H. Lilliefors took the trouble to evaluate a large thousandths of simulations to get the table of values he presents in his PAPER and they HAD NO UTILITY to test the hypotheses the Population in study was normal?
DO YOU BELIEVE John (R) Smith?
He is a very DIFFERENT kind of Statistician as you are!
Your statement that
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Either the parameter is INSIDE or OUTSIDE. The probability that the parameter is inside is either 100% or 0%. Same for the probability that the parameter is outside. ***
Is the proof that you don’t understand, NOTHING AT ALL; how Monte Carlo method is able to derive Critical Values.

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Luis Amaral Afonso

YOU THINK I AM A SUCKER , John ( R ) Smith?

John

You think I am a SUCKER?

BY PHONE, NEVER EVER!!!!!!


I DEMAND Hubert W, Lilliefors to deny here, in Sci Stat Math. his assertion (I copied EXACTLY FROM THE PAPER) that using HIS TABLE WE ARE able to get CONFIDENCE INTERVALS of the K-S TEXT .when the Population mean and std, deviation are unknown.

What a CRIMINAL evasive: YOU ARE AN INDECENT LIAR.
A PHONE CALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(I expect yet – the PHONE CALL TRICK – from you )
ARE YOU AWARE THAT NOBOBY BELIEVE IN THAT PHONE CALL ????????
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Luis Amaral Afonso

Luis A. Afonso

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Nov 15, 2007, 7:45:11 AM11/15/07
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Three kinds of qualities could be asserted to John ( R ) Smith

1) Inability to connect mathematical results:
( I gave the Theoretical bases to which by a simulation procedure
Hypotheses Tests can be achieved)
2) Horrifying ignorance
(Monte Carlo in Statistics has a 40 years history and is used systematically since)
3) Absolute LACK OF ETHICS
(The invented telephone call to H. Lilliefors, which if true leads him to deny COMPLETELLY what EXPLICITLY stated in his fundamental June 1967 paper)

_Comment
If J.S. (and Jack Tomsky, Bob Ling, OMU) is a random sample of the US STARISTICIAN´S POPULATION, I can have a fair evaluation of its expertise and ethical behavior.
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Luis Amaral Afonso


Do you believe (DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE) that H. Lilliefors took the trouble to evaluate a large thousandths of simulations to get the table of values he presents in his PAPER and they HAD NO UTILITY to test the hypotheses the Population in study was normal?
DO YOU BELIEVE John (R) Smith?
He is a very DIFFERENT kind of Statistician as you are!
Your statement that
***
Either the parameter is INSIDE or OUTSIDE. The probability that the parameter is inside is either 100% or 0%. Same for the probability that the parameter is outside. ***
Is the proof that you don’t understand, NOTHING AT ALL; how Monte Carlo method is able to derive Critical Values.

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Luis Amaral Afonso

YOU THINK I AM A SUCKER , John ( R ) Smith?

John Smith

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Nov 15, 2007, 9:15:53 AM11/15/07
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Luis,

I just called the asylum. They want you to return.

Do I think you're a sucker?

I'll tell you tomorrow...stay tuned.

John

PS -

I wrote: Either the parameter is INSIDE or OUTSIDE. The probability that the parameter is inside is either 100% or 0%. Same for the probability that the parameter is outside. ***

Your wrote: Is the proof that you don’t understand, NOTHING AT ALL; how Monte Carlo method is able to derive Critical Values.

My response: are the critical values statistics or parameters???? Do you even know the difference?

Luis A. Afonso

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Nov 15, 2007, 10:21:04 AM11/15/07
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Date: Nov 15, 2007 9:15 AM
Author: John Smith
Subject: Re: YOU THINK I AM A SUCKER

, John ( R ) Smith?

Luis,
I just called the asylum. They want you to return. Do I think you're a sucker? I'll tell you tomorrow...stay tuned. JohnPS - I wrote: Either the parameter is INSIDE or OUTSIDE. The probability that the parameter is inside is either 100% or 0%. Same for the probability that the parameter is outside. ***Your wrote: Is the proof that you don?t understand, NOTHING AT ALL; how Monte Carlo method is able to derive Critical Values. My response: are the critical values statistics or parameters???? Do you even know the difference?
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MY RESPONSE

I´m expecting Police is just ring to put in jail a FORGER.

Lilliefors´s paper DOESN`T care (RIGHTLY) the population parameters, because data is reduced to
______________Z=(X-Xbar)/sqr(s^2)
before being tested by the K-S Statistics.
CONSEQUENTLY
One can use normal standard data: X=N(0,1).
I did so and found EXACTLY the same as Lilliefors.
DO YOU HAVE CONSCIENCE that the more you point out in this matter the striking the evidence of your ignorance grows?

BY THE WAY

What about the idea you contact Lilliefors to WRITE HERE in Sci. Stat. Math. What is thinks about
a) The way he performed his evaluations
b) What was his GOAL?
c) The table of cumulative relative frequencies he named (page 400):
___TABLE 1, TABLE OF CRITICAL VALUES of D
are able to from them to obtain CONFIDENCE INTERVALS (my thesis) or are useless (your thesis) because * either the parameter is INSIDE or OUTSIDE *

Is urgent to invite him because he is the perfect person to judge who is right.

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Luis Amaral Afonso

Jack Tomsky

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Nov 15, 2007, 12:52:32 PM11/15/07
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Afonso again falsely accused Hubert Lilliefors of not knowing the difference between parameters and sample statistics. The word "confidence" appears nowhere in Lilliefors paper.

Jack

John Smith

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Nov 15, 2007, 12:56:08 PM11/15/07
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Luisa,

Of course you're a sucker.

I wrote: Either the parameter is INSIDE or OUTSIDE. The probability that the parameter is inside is either 100% or 0%. Same for the probability that the parameter is outside. ***

Your wrote: Is the proof that you don’t understand, NOTHING AT ALL; how Monte Carlo method is able to derive Critical Values.

My response: are the critical values statistics or parameters???? Do you even know the difference?

John

Luis A. Afonso

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Nov 15, 2007, 2:16:45 PM11/15/07
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Critical Values: Lilliefors´Tables expected accuracy


Lilliefors evaluations (Table 1 , Critical Values with 3 decimals) are based on N= 1,000 or more samples (p. 399 infra). Because


_________|d| <= sqr[ log(2/p) / (2*N)]

Putting p=0.95, N=2000 we got |d|<=0 .014

Therefore the DKW inequality guarantees at maximum TWO DECIMAL EXACT PLACES.

In fact because this is an inequality it is expected a rather better approximation.
Results posted in this News I used 100´000 samples for each sample size and |d| is better than 2E-3.
As a senior research member I was able to use 1E6 samples which guaranties the THREE DECIMAL PLACE´s EXACTNESS. (Instituto Nacional de Engenharia e Tecnologia Industrial, INETI, Lisbon , Portugal).
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Luis Amaral Afonso

John Smith

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Nov 16, 2007, 1:14:33 PM11/16/07
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Luisa,

Your response does not answer my question. To reiterate,

Luis A. Afonso

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Nov 16, 2007, 3:18:30 PM11/16/07
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1) Because you, John Smith, are seemly GAY you call me Luisa a lot of times hopping that I return Jeannie, Jeannie, Joan, but I merely take it by a way you chose to try to seduce me.
I do not consume that kind of goods: at home you surely will find a “piece” at yours fully satisfaction. US are full of this Population.
2) If you was not so ignorant you certainly had noted that the Table1 of Lilliefors paper refers to CRITICAL VALUES of the
_____Sample Statistics D, called also a Kolmogorov-Smirnov Distance. NOT LESS, NOT LEAST.
3) About your commitment to invite H. W. Lilliefors to post a comment in this matter? Do you forgot or the phone call you say you do is PLAIN FORGERY?
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Luis Amaral Afonso

John Smith

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Nov 16, 2007, 4:02:22 PM11/16/07
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Luiser,

I am happy you finally mentioned

"RITICAL VALUES of the
_____Sample Statistics D, called also a Kolmogorov-Smirnov Distance. NOT LESS, NOT LEAST."

Now answer my question, "are the critical values statistics or parameters????"

I did call Lilliefors. He said you are an idiot.

John

Luis A. Afonso

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Nov 16, 2007, 5:08:41 PM11/16/07
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A never answered torturing question!
Who is so cruel not to go in aid!
Are Statistics or Parameters?
My heart is unable to reach a decision,
My suffering’s not to be said.
Oh true inextricable confusion
How much expected hard work ahead.

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Luis Amaral Afonso

Johner Smither wrote:

*** Luiser,

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