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David Deutsch's Theorem: Nazi Time Machines are real.

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Jack Sarfatti

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May 4, 2004, 12:09:54 AM5/4/04
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On May 3, 2004, at 8:34 PM, Gary S. Bekkum wrote:

Chronology protection in a toy surface plasmon "time machine"


http://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0311140


Wormholes and Ringholes in a Dark-Energy Universe


http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0308382


Recent progress in wormhole dynamics


http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0306051


A note on 4-dimensional traversable wormholes and energy conditions in
higher dimensions


http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0306004


Gary S. Bekkum
garys...@hotmail.com

On May 3, 2004, at 8:10 PM, Gary S. Bekkum wrote:

“Hi Jack.
According to Marckus, the Nazi time machine is roughly called "lantern
holder of time" (page 228) ... this being not a time machine, but a
homing signal.
Of course David Deutsch would tell you that "other times" are special
cases of "other universes"; in some of those alternative worlds the
Nazis won WWII; developed exotic weapons etc. Perhaps they were trying
to call for help?”
Gary

Good point. The ideas of Julian Barbour, David Deutsch on time derive
from Sir Fred Hoyle’s sci-fi novel “The Black Cloud” that I read at
Birkbeck I think in 1971. See also P. K. Dick “The Man in the High
Castle.” You can imagine some of the saucers from parallel worlds where
the Nazis did win if you take that interpretation of quantum reality
seriously. See also “Virtual History: Alternatives and Counterfactuals”
by Niall Ferguson. In many worlds theory there are no counterfactuals.
All is factual.

BTW Nick Cook mentions a big aerospace legend guy who could make
paperclips float - "Operation Paperclip"? ;-)

Brian Quincy Hutchings

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May 4, 2004, 12:08:12 PM5/4/04
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he gets heckled, even when he's perfectly skeptical
on Deutsch's Nazi Solopsism, and Operation Floating Paperclip!

Jack Sarfatti <sarf...@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:<mIElc.59905$6E3....@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com>...



> A note on 4-dimensional traversable wormholes and energy conditions in
> higher dimensions

> http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0306004

> holder of time" (page 228) ... this being not a time machine, but a
> homing signal.
> Of course David Deutsch would tell you that "other times" are special
> cases of "other universes"; in some of those alternative worlds the
> Nazis won WWII; developed exotic weapons etc. Perhaps they were trying
> to call for help?”
> Gary
>
> Good point. The ideas of Julian Barbour, David Deutsch on time derive
> from Sir Fred Hoyle’s sci-fi novel “The Black Cloud” that I read at
> Birkbeck I think in 1971. See also P. K. Dick “The Man in the High
> Castle.” You can imagine some of the saucers from parallel worlds where
> the Nazis did win if you take that interpretation of quantum reality
> seriously. See also “Virtual History: Alternatives and Counterfactuals”
> by Niall Ferguson. In many worlds theory there are no counterfactuals.
> All is factual.
>
> BTW Nick Cook mentions a big aerospace legend guy who could make
> paperclips float - "Operation Paperclip"? ;-)

--Give Earth a Trickier Dick Cheeny -- out of office after GIGAyears!
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Fish!

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May 4, 2004, 9:56:55 PM5/4/04
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>
>
> Wormholes and Ringholes in a Dark-Energy Universe
>
>
>

hehe, you said Ringhole.

JP

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May 5, 2004, 7:03:35 AM5/5/04
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 04:09:54 +0000, Jack Sarfatti wrote:

>The ideas of Julian Barbour, David Deutsch on time derive
> from Sir Fred Hoyle’s sci-fi novel “The Black Cloud” that I read at
> Birkbeck I think in 1971. See also P. K. Dick “The Man in the High
> Castle.” You can imagine some of the saucers from parallel worlds where
> the Nazis did win if you take that interpretation of quantum reality
> seriously. See also “Virtual History: Alternatives and Counterfactuals”
> by Niall Ferguson. In many worlds theory there are no counterfactuals.
> All is factual.
>

There is a theorem that says that since all factual universes must exist,
there can be no universes where Jack Sarfatti actually makes any sense.

You read it here first.

ZZBunker

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May 5, 2004, 12:17:48 PM5/5/04
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JP <J...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.05.05....@nospam.net>...

> On Tue, 04 May 2004 04:09:54 +0000, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
>
> >The ideas of Julian Barbour, David Deutsch on time derive
> > from Sir Fred Hoyleÿs sci-fi novel ´The Black Cloud¡ that I read at
> > Birkbeck I think in 1971. See also P. K. Dick ´The Man in the High
> > Castle.¡ You can imagine some of the saucers from parallel worlds where
> > the Nazis did win if you take that interpretation of quantum reality
> > seriously. See also ´Virtual History: Alternatives and Counterfactuals¡
> > by Niall Ferguson. In many worlds theory there are no counterfactuals.
> > All is factual.
> >
> There is a theorem that says that since all factual universes must exist,
> there can be no universes where Jack Sarfatti actually makes any sense.


There is a also a theorem that a philosopher
wouldn't know the difference between a
counter and a fact to begin with, so
it's actually irrelevent. Since these
people are stupider Einstones, they're
in fact Goedellian stupid.

Brian Quincy Hutchings

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May 5, 2004, 9:15:18 PM5/5/04
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OPC is actually a very short IQ test;
they even give you the toilet-paper --
you have to find the john, yourself!

JP <J...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.05.05....@nospam.net>...

> there can be no universes where Jack Sarfatti actually makes any sense.

--Give Earth a Trickier Dick Cheeny -- out of office after GIGAyears!

John Vreeland

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May 6, 2004, 2:14:19 AM5/6/04
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JP <J...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.05.05....@nospam.net>...
> On Tue, 04 May 2004 04:09:54 +0000, Jack Sarfatti wrote:
>
> >The ideas of Julian Barbour, David Deutsch on time derive
> > from Sir Fred Hoyleÿs sci-fi novel ´The Black Cloud¡ that I read at
> > Birkbeck I think in 1971. See also P. K. Dick ´The Man in the High
> > Castle.¡ You can imagine some of the saucers from parallel worlds where
> > the Nazis did win if you take that interpretation of quantum reality
> > seriously. See also ´Virtual History: Alternatives and Counterfactuals¡
> > by Niall Ferguson. In many worlds theory there are no counterfactuals.
> > All is factual.
> >
> There is a theorem that says that since all factual universes must exist,
> there can be no universes where Jack Sarfatti actually makes any sense.
>
> You read it here first.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day, so I expect he'll get
something right eventually. Still, I don't expect the broken clock to
brag about it.

Jack V

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