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bob haller
May 10, 2013, 7:52:27 AM5/10/13
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Brian Thorn
May 12, 2013, 1:33:56 PM5/12/13
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On Fri, 10 May 2013 04:52:27 -0700 (PDT), bob haller <hal...@aol.com>
wrote:
No, it looks more like some sort of collision between Shuttle, Hubble
(look quick, its there), a Soyuz, and the International Space Station.
Not really sure what to make of that. Somehow, they all go kablooey at
the same time in that promo. And they somehow do this without turning
the nearby spacewalkers's spacesuits into Swiss cheese. And somehow
everything but the spacewalking astronauts deorbits and burns up (look
quick, we see that too) in the atmosphere, from "372 miles up" before
the astronaut's air supply runs out (something like 10 hours).
In other words, about as realistic as "Apollo 18" or "Armageddon".
Aside from Hubble, which just can't be anywhere near there, ever, the
only explanation for all this is some sort of terrorist attack. Maybe
a few bombs smuggled onto the Shuttle and Station? Ridiculous, yes,
but at least only implausible, and not totally impossible.
Brian
wrote:
No, it looks more like some sort of collision between Shuttle, Hubble
(look quick, its there), a Soyuz, and the International Space Station.
Not really sure what to make of that. Somehow, they all go kablooey at
the same time in that promo. And they somehow do this without turning
the nearby spacewalkers's spacesuits into Swiss cheese. And somehow
everything but the spacewalking astronauts deorbits and burns up (look
quick, we see that too) in the atmosphere, from "372 miles up" before
the astronaut's air supply runs out (something like 10 hours).
In other words, about as realistic as "Apollo 18" or "Armageddon".
Aside from Hubble, which just can't be anywhere near there, ever, the
only explanation for all this is some sort of terrorist attack. Maybe
a few bombs smuggled onto the Shuttle and Station? Ridiculous, yes,
but at least only implausible, and not totally impossible.
Brian
Brad Guth
May 12, 2013, 11:29:59 PM5/12/13
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On May 10, 4:52 am, bob haller <hall...@aol.com> wrote:
> http://nasawatch.com/archives/2013/05/gravity-nasa-he.html
>
> Looks like a debris impact to ISS..
Right, and gravity is not going to bring most of it down for several
> http://nasawatch.com/archives/2013/05/gravity-nasa-he.html
>
> Looks like a debris impact to ISS..
months.
There is no failsafe recovery from impacting natural or artificial
debris of anything over a cm3. Even as little as a mm3 could
terminate ISS if it hits a critical component. So, what's your point?
bob haller
May 13, 2013, 12:14:23 AM5/13/13
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interesting movie:)
Jeff Findley
May 13, 2013, 9:35:06 AM5/13/13
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In article <b68ec866-d00b-42ad-b4ce-3ccd62f54a04
@dl10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>, hal...@aol.com says...
>
> On May 12, 11:29ï¿œpm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > terminate ISS if it hits a critical component. ï¿œSo, what's your point?
of that, it suspends the laws of physics as part of its cinematic
license, which I absolutely hate in a movie that appears to reflect
reality.
I got so ticked when I watched the trailer (after lunch on Friday) that
my coworkers wondered what all the swearing was about. I certainly
won't pay to see this movie.
Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer
@dl10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>, hal...@aol.com says...
>
> On May 12, 11:29ï¿œpm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On May 10, 4:52ï¿œam, bob haller <hall...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > >http://nasawatch.com/archives/2013/05/gravity-nasa-he.html
> >
> > > Looks like a debris impact to ISS..
> >
> > Right, and gravity is not going to bring most of it down for several
> > months.
> >
> > There is no failsafe recovery from impacting natural or artificial
> > debris of anything over a cm3. ï¿œEven as little as a mm3 could
> >
> > >http://nasawatch.com/archives/2013/05/gravity-nasa-he.html
> >
> > > Looks like a debris impact to ISS..
> >
> > Right, and gravity is not going to bring most of it down for several
> > months.
> >
> > There is no failsafe recovery from impacting natural or artificial
> > terminate ISS if it hits a critical component. ï¿œSo, what's your point?
>
> Well ISS is very vulernable to debris impact, Plus it looks like
> interesting movie:)
This movie looks like something out of your twisted imagination. On top
> Well ISS is very vulernable to debris impact, Plus it looks like
> interesting movie:)
of that, it suspends the laws of physics as part of its cinematic
license, which I absolutely hate in a movie that appears to reflect
reality.
I got so ticked when I watched the trailer (after lunch on Friday) that
my coworkers wondered what all the swearing was about. I certainly
won't pay to see this movie.
Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer
Brian Thorn
May 13, 2013, 6:48:01 PM5/13/13
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On Sun, 12 May 2013 21:14:23 -0700 (PDT), bob haller <hal...@aol.com>
wrote:
Maybe, but this movie sure doesn't show your ordinary debris impact.
To do all that destruction, it would have to be something the size of
Hubble smashing into both the Shuttle (which wasn't docked) and the
Station. Even the Progress collision, which was pretty violent, only
caused a relatively small leak on Mir, which was promptly sealed off.
If you want to see an MMOD impact in the movies, watch "Mission to
Mars", which actually handled it pretty well (the rest of the movie
stinks.)
> Plus it looks like
>interesting movie:)
It actually looks like that "Star Trek: Voyager" episode where Tom
Paris and B'Ellana Torres were marooned outside in their spacesuits
after their Shuttlecraft exploded. I think "Futurama" did it, too,
with Fry and Leela.
But really, this is just "Open Water" in space.
Brian
wrote:
To do all that destruction, it would have to be something the size of
Hubble smashing into both the Shuttle (which wasn't docked) and the
Station. Even the Progress collision, which was pretty violent, only
caused a relatively small leak on Mir, which was promptly sealed off.
If you want to see an MMOD impact in the movies, watch "Mission to
Mars", which actually handled it pretty well (the rest of the movie
stinks.)
> Plus it looks like
>interesting movie:)
Paris and B'Ellana Torres were marooned outside in their spacesuits
after their Shuttlecraft exploded. I think "Futurama" did it, too,
with Fry and Leela.
But really, this is just "Open Water" in space.
Brian
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