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Brad Guth
Jul 6, 2012, 12:18:30 AM7/6/12
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Off-world resources of any kind can be continually ignored, or even
intentionally foiled by those with terrestrial resources yet to
pillage and profit from.
“Fossil Fuels: A Legacy of Disaster”
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/04/fossil_fuel_legacy.html
Of course under-reporting of death and injuries has always been an
industry-wide tactical form of PR damage-control (aka need to know),
and those long-term affects of Big Energy traumatizing and/or reducing
the quality of life for those that can least afford to deal with
modifying their environment by moving further away from anything
that’s truly nasty, as such are typically swept under the nearest rug,
or using FUD in order to falsely put the blame upon others, and just
like their all-inclusive environmental consequences which are mostly
negative, getting passed along to the next unsuspecting and typically
dumbfounded K12 generation is Oligarch/Rothschild policy status quo.
Besides all the negative impact to our atmosphere and it’s protective
ozone layer, badly contaminated groundwater from defective wells and
especially via fracking is typically ignored or at best only white-
washed via denial and obfuscation, as well as having been typically
accusing whatever local citizens of perpetual whining or being liars
and extortionists when they complain about their health or their water
becoming too nasty to drink, cook with or even bath in.
Of course many other nations on Earth have been much further exploited
and thoroughly corrupted than ours, so we can safely figure that one
as representing a perfectly valid death, injury and environmental
trauma magnifier or multiplier, that again is way underreported and
remains unlike Oligarchs and Rothschilds that never seem to complain
about anything that’s toxic or spendy, whereas few if any Muslims had
been involved with such ongoing deceptions (so perhaps it’s still all
their fault for not having been participating in the hydrocarbon
exploitation and of its mass consumption like all the rest of us).
The really good news, is by the time 2150 or even 2122 roles around
and we’ve survived WW3 and WW4 of perpetual nation-building that
seldom goes according to plan, there really shouldn’t be hardly any
4He(helium) nor all that much CH4/methane to go around, as well as
other hydrocarbons as having become so scarce and/or spendy that their
consumption should drastically fall off to something less than 10% of
currently taking place (considering the global population of 9
billion, this well have become a truly monumental accomplishment). By
the year 2222 and if we’re still lucky with having only 12 billion of
us, whereas most all of our environmental trauma caused by the
previous hydrocarbon consumption and our helium loss era should be
practically cleared up, and once again our atmosphere including its
nifty ozone layer should eventually become a whole lot cleaner and
doing a fine job of better protecting us.
Instead of human cremation that takes a considerable amount of energy
and causes pollution, there will be only liquefaction methods used,
and the end product re-utilized in various constructive ways of
recycling such organic matter.
So, the sooner we use up our solid, liquid and gaseous forms of
hydrocarbons, plus vent off or otherwise leak the vast bulk of our
disposable methane and helium, the better for mother nature and her
remaining biodiversity.
Once the majority of humans are either badly suffering or starving to
death, and hydrocarbons become a thing of the past for the vast
majority of us, along with the scant remainders of hoarded helium plus
many other elements being one of the most spendy on earth per kg,
whereas nature can rebound and off-world enterprises of mostly private
Oligarch/Rothschilds can begin taunting us with their tremendous
wealth and authority over anyone we might care to elect or appoint.
So, it’s no wonder they’re not helping out any private efforts to do
anything too sudden or spontaneously towards accomplishing off-world
exploitations that might actually benefit the rest of us while
terrestrial resources haven’t yet been artificially inflated to their
maximum potential.
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intentionally foiled by those with terrestrial resources yet to
pillage and profit from.
“Fossil Fuels: A Legacy of Disaster”
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/04/fossil_fuel_legacy.html
Of course under-reporting of death and injuries has always been an
industry-wide tactical form of PR damage-control (aka need to know),
and those long-term affects of Big Energy traumatizing and/or reducing
the quality of life for those that can least afford to deal with
modifying their environment by moving further away from anything
that’s truly nasty, as such are typically swept under the nearest rug,
or using FUD in order to falsely put the blame upon others, and just
like their all-inclusive environmental consequences which are mostly
negative, getting passed along to the next unsuspecting and typically
dumbfounded K12 generation is Oligarch/Rothschild policy status quo.
Besides all the negative impact to our atmosphere and it’s protective
ozone layer, badly contaminated groundwater from defective wells and
especially via fracking is typically ignored or at best only white-
washed via denial and obfuscation, as well as having been typically
accusing whatever local citizens of perpetual whining or being liars
and extortionists when they complain about their health or their water
becoming too nasty to drink, cook with or even bath in.
Of course many other nations on Earth have been much further exploited
and thoroughly corrupted than ours, so we can safely figure that one
as representing a perfectly valid death, injury and environmental
trauma magnifier or multiplier, that again is way underreported and
remains unlike Oligarchs and Rothschilds that never seem to complain
about anything that’s toxic or spendy, whereas few if any Muslims had
been involved with such ongoing deceptions (so perhaps it’s still all
their fault for not having been participating in the hydrocarbon
exploitation and of its mass consumption like all the rest of us).
The really good news, is by the time 2150 or even 2122 roles around
and we’ve survived WW3 and WW4 of perpetual nation-building that
seldom goes according to plan, there really shouldn’t be hardly any
4He(helium) nor all that much CH4/methane to go around, as well as
other hydrocarbons as having become so scarce and/or spendy that their
consumption should drastically fall off to something less than 10% of
currently taking place (considering the global population of 9
billion, this well have become a truly monumental accomplishment). By
the year 2222 and if we’re still lucky with having only 12 billion of
us, whereas most all of our environmental trauma caused by the
previous hydrocarbon consumption and our helium loss era should be
practically cleared up, and once again our atmosphere including its
nifty ozone layer should eventually become a whole lot cleaner and
doing a fine job of better protecting us.
Instead of human cremation that takes a considerable amount of energy
and causes pollution, there will be only liquefaction methods used,
and the end product re-utilized in various constructive ways of
recycling such organic matter.
So, the sooner we use up our solid, liquid and gaseous forms of
hydrocarbons, plus vent off or otherwise leak the vast bulk of our
disposable methane and helium, the better for mother nature and her
remaining biodiversity.
Once the majority of humans are either badly suffering or starving to
death, and hydrocarbons become a thing of the past for the vast
majority of us, along with the scant remainders of hoarded helium plus
many other elements being one of the most spendy on earth per kg,
whereas nature can rebound and off-world enterprises of mostly private
Oligarch/Rothschilds can begin taunting us with their tremendous
wealth and authority over anyone we might care to elect or appoint.
So, it’s no wonder they’re not helping out any private efforts to do
anything too sudden or spontaneously towards accomplishing off-world
exploitations that might actually benefit the rest of us while
terrestrial resources haven’t yet been artificially inflated to their
maximum potential.
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Hägar
Jul 6, 2012, 10:08:13 AM7/6/12
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"Brad Guth" <brad...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Off-world resources of any kind can be continually ignored, or even
intentionally foiled by those with terrestrial resources yet to
pillage and profit from.
**********************************
intentionally foiled by those with terrestrial resources yet to
pillage and profit from.
So, let's see ... our Nigger in Chief cancels the Shuttle, the only means
the US had to reach a controlled orbit with a pyload and the manpower to
utilize it, the other Nigger, Holdren, wants to change the function of NASA
to a Muslim support group, and the third Niggerm Holder, wants us to become
the preferred provider of automatic weapons by the Mexican drug runners.
Yes there are untold riches orbiting twixt Mars and Jupiter, huge chunks of
pure iron, irridium, nickel and just about anything needed by the
manufacturing arm of any Nation. Unfortunately, that leaves the US out of
the game, since we are now a nation of service providers and coddling
welfare queens and a haven for butt humping poofters who want equal rights
for their shit-stained dicks.
Trust me ... when we finally undo all the damage the trio of black deadbeats
has done and do get to the Asteroid belt with our shopping bags, the Chinese
will not let us in and we will tuck our tails twixt our legs and go home and
pout. We'll be finished on the world scene, flat broke and will make Uganda
look like Utopia ... but all of our deadbeats will have healthcare, financed
by taxing the "wealthy", namely anyone who makes minimum wage, which will
leave you off the hook, GuthBall..
Brad Guth
Jul 6, 2012, 11:40:13 PM7/6/12
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On Jul 6, 7:08 am, "Hägar" <hs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Brad Guth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
You're negativity and lack of anything constructive is noted.
Pick something, anything you like, and then promote it, if you dare.
Promoting hate doesn't count unless it's applied against ZNR FUD-
masters and the Oligarch Rothschilds that are protecting those of your
kind.
> "Brad Guth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Pick something, anything you like, and then promote it, if you dare.
Promoting hate doesn't count unless it's applied against ZNR FUD-
masters and the Oligarch Rothschilds that are protecting those of your
kind.
Alan Erskine
Jul 7, 2012, 2:19:24 AM7/7/12
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Alan Erskine
Jul 7, 2012, 2:19:54 AM7/7/12
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On 7/07/2012 1:40 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
> Pick something, anything you like, and then promote it, if you dare.
> Promoting hate doesn't count unless it's applied against ZNR FUD-
> masters and the Oligarch Rothschilds that are protecting those of your
> kind.
>
You are insane.
>
> Pick something, anything you like, and then promote it, if you dare.
> Promoting hate doesn't count unless it's applied against ZNR FUD-
> masters and the Oligarch Rothschilds that are protecting those of your
> kind.
>
Brad Guth
Jul 7, 2012, 11:13:44 AM7/7/12
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It's not the least bit uncommon for those with terrestrial resource
investments to use numerous damage-control tactics of topic/author
stalking and discrediting others that might put any new light upon off-
world resources, and especially when there's no shortage of energy and
zero environmental compliance issues for off-world mining and
processing to contend with.
More Sirius Oort cloud items should be showing up, as well as Sirius
gravity perturbed items from our own Kuiper belt and Oort cloud should
become available for mining expeditions as those items make their pass
around the sun and at times not any too far away from us. Of course
our steadfast moon and even that second moon Cruithne are each with
reach, although Venus also gets extremely nearby every 19 months.
The science of astronomy is nearly all/100% subjective
observationology, with at best our deductive interpretations to guide
us onto the next step. Funny how any quality image of Venus that
seems perfectly weird enough doesn't mainstream qualify as anything
except perfectly natural terrain, even though not one other image of
any other planet (including Earth) or moon has anything remotely as
large of scale and complex looking, as well as seemingly artificial or
rational infrastructure to offer at the same time.
Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon.
“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow/5629579402364691314
Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
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investments to use numerous damage-control tactics of topic/author
stalking and discrediting others that might put any new light upon off-
world resources, and especially when there's no shortage of energy and
zero environmental compliance issues for off-world mining and
processing to contend with.
More Sirius Oort cloud items should be showing up, as well as Sirius
gravity perturbed items from our own Kuiper belt and Oort cloud should
become available for mining expeditions as those items make their pass
around the sun and at times not any too far away from us. Of course
our steadfast moon and even that second moon Cruithne are each with
reach, although Venus also gets extremely nearby every 19 months.
The science of astronomy is nearly all/100% subjective
observationology, with at best our deductive interpretations to guide
us onto the next step. Funny how any quality image of Venus that
seems perfectly weird enough doesn't mainstream qualify as anything
except perfectly natural terrain, even though not one other image of
any other planet (including Earth) or moon has anything remotely as
large of scale and complex looking, as well as seemingly artificial or
rational infrastructure to offer at the same time.
Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon.
“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow/5629579402364691314
Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
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jacob navia
Jul 7, 2012, 11:46:39 AM7/7/12
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Le 07/07/12 08:19, Alan Erskine a écrit :
Like all antisemitic people.
They are all insane. Look also at the "arguments" of Mr guth:
(in the thread:
"Google the video "9/11 Missing Links". 9/11 was a Jew Job!"):
<quote>
Jews are not Whites but insane mongrels who hate Whites. Jews started
all the jokes about Whites like Dumb Blondes, Rednecks, Polish Jokes.
<end quote>
So, Jews are responsible for both the attacks of 9/11 AND ...
blonde's jokes. (!!!!)
And he doesn't see anything wrong with that.
jacob
They are all insane. Look also at the "arguments" of Mr guth:
(in the thread:
"Google the video "9/11 Missing Links". 9/11 was a Jew Job!"):
<quote>
Jews are not Whites but insane mongrels who hate Whites. Jews started
all the jokes about Whites like Dumb Blondes, Rednecks, Polish Jokes.
<end quote>
So, Jews are responsible for both the attacks of 9/11 AND ...
blonde's jokes. (!!!!)
And he doesn't see anything wrong with that.
jacob
Alan Erskine
Jul 7, 2012, 11:47:57 AM7/7/12
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On 8/07/2012 1:13 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> It's not the least bit uncommon for those with terrestrial resource
> investments to use numerous damage-control tactics of topic/author
> stalking and discrediting others that might put any new light upon off-
> world resources, and especially when there's no shortage of energy and
> zero environmental compliance issues for off-world mining and
> processing to contend with.
You are insane.
> It's not the least bit uncommon for those with terrestrial resource
> investments to use numerous damage-control tactics of topic/author
> stalking and discrediting others that might put any new light upon off-
> world resources, and especially when there's no shortage of energy and
> zero environmental compliance issues for off-world mining and
> processing to contend with.
Message has been deleted
Brad Guth
Jul 7, 2012, 2:22:35 PM7/7/12
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It's not the least bit uncommon for those with terrestrial resource
investments to use numerous damage-control tactics of topic/author
stalking and discrediting others that might conceivably put any new
investments to use numerous damage-control tactics of topic/author
light upon off-world resources, and especially when there's no
shortage of energy and zero environmental compliance issues for off-
world mining and processing to contend with.
More of those pesky Sirius Oort cloud items should be showing up, as
world mining and processing to contend with.
well as Sirius gravity perturbed items from within our own Kuiper belt
and Oort cloud should become available for mining expeditions,
especially as those items make their pass around the sun and at times
passing not any too far away from us. Of course our steadfast moon
and even that second moon Cruithne are each within reach, although
Venus also gets extremely nearby (within 110 LD) every 19 months.
The science of astronomy is nearly all/100% subjective
to guide us onto the next step. Funny how any quality image of Venus
that seems perfectly weird enough doesn't mainstream qualify as
anything except perfectly natural terrain, even though not one other
image of any other planet (including Earth) or moon has anything
remotely as large of scale and complex looking, as well as seemingly
artificial or that of having a rational infrastructure to offer at the
that seems perfectly weird enough doesn't mainstream qualify as
anything except perfectly natural terrain, even though not one other
image of any other planet (including Earth) or moon has anything
remotely as large of scale and complex looking, as well as seemingly
same time. No doubt this extremely unusual terrain that looks so
artificially modified would otherwise have to be a first for the
random happenstance of natural geology to have accomplished.
Apparently those natural geology rules of building mountainous terrain
and having eroded them down for this extremely nearby planet Venus are
entirely different than any other planet or moon has to offer.
However, other than the usual gauntlet of naysayers and FUD-masters of
our public Usenet/newsgroups that do’ll everything they can think of
in order to intercept and destroy investigative research by outsiders,
perhaps you can help with interpreting this one selected image of
Venus that looks extremely interesting, active and seemingly as though
parts of this area have been modified to suit.
“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow/5629579402364691314
Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
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On Jul 5, 9:18 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 5, 9:18 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
Brad Guth
Jul 7, 2012, 7:17:02 PM7/7/12
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The science of astronomy is nearly all/100% subjective and biased
observationology, with only at best our deductive interpretations to
time.
Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon.
“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow/5629579402364691314
Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
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> question:https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow...
observationology, with only at best our deductive interpretations to
guide us onto the next step. Funny how any quality image of Venus
that seems perfectly weird enough doesn't mainstream qualify as
anything except a perfectly natural terrain of hot rocks, even though
that seems perfectly weird enough doesn't mainstream qualify as
not one other image of any other planet (including Earth) or moon has
anything remotely as large of scale and complex looking, as well as
seemingly offering artificial or rational infrastructure at the same
anything remotely as large of scale and complex looking, as well as
time.
Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon.
“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow/5629579402364691314
Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
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David Staup
Jul 7, 2012, 7:44:13 PM7/7/12
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well, your astronomy "science" (snicker) sure is.
The science of astronomy is nearly all/100% subjective and biased
observationology
snip remaining goofy poop
observationology
well, your astronomy "science" (snicker) sure is.
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Brad Guth
Jul 7, 2012, 10:08:18 PM7/7/12
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On Jul 7, 4:44 pm, "David Staup" <dst...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Brad Guth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Your FUD is noted. Do you also have to pretend the fart wasn't yours
when having sex?
> "Brad Guth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
when having sex?
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Alan Erskine
Jul 8, 2012, 3:07:48 AM7/8/12
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On 8/07/2012 12:08 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
> Your FUD is noted. Do you also have to pretend the fart wasn't yours
> when having sex?
>
You are insane.
>
> Your FUD is noted. Do you also have to pretend the fart wasn't yours
> when having sex?
>
HVAC
Jul 8, 2012, 9:38:55 AM7/8/12
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On 7/7/2012 10:08 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
>>
>> well, your astronomy "science" (snicker) sure is.
>
> Your FUD is noted. Do you also have to pretend the fart wasn't yours
> when having sex?
You just can't help yourself when it comes to your anal/fecal fetish,
>
>>
>> well, your astronomy "science" (snicker) sure is.
>
> Your FUD is noted. Do you also have to pretend the fart wasn't yours
> when having sex?
can you Goth?
--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
Brad Guth
Jul 8, 2012, 2:15:21 PM7/8/12
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economy, corrupted government and otherwise dysfunctional government
that favors anything Oligarch Rothschild, and the more redneck the
better.
Are you still suggesting that everything was perfectly fine and dandy
before the black guy came along?
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Alan Erskine
Jul 8, 2012, 11:19:23 PM7/8/12
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On 9/07/2012 4:15 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Your out-of-context interpretation is noted, as is your failed
> economy, corrupted government and otherwise dysfunctional government
> that favors anything Oligarch Rothschild, and the more redneck the
> better.
>
> Are you still suggesting that everything was perfectly fine and dandy
> before the black guy came along?
"Oligarch Rothschild"?
> Your out-of-context interpretation is noted, as is your failed
> economy, corrupted government and otherwise dysfunctional government
> that favors anything Oligarch Rothschild, and the more redneck the
> better.
>
> Are you still suggesting that everything was perfectly fine and dandy
> before the black guy came along?
You are insane.
Brad Guth
Jul 9, 2012, 7:09:47 AM7/9/12
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On Jul 5, 9:18 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
Allen Campbell and others are always too dumbfounded and/or instructed
not to care about anything other than topic/author stalking and
trashing everything they see fit. Of course GW Bush, Dick Cheney,
Kissinger and Hitler pretty much did the same thing. Try to imagine
what Hitler and his Third Reich army of brown-nosed clowns and minions
could have accomplished with their control of this internet.
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HVAC
Jul 9, 2012, 9:15:39 AM7/9/12
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On 7/9/2012 9:08 AM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>
> Notice how The Guthball is talking to himself here? Of course
> Guthball is only capable of stringing unrelated names together and
> then spewing some shite at the end.
>
> Personally, I've never noticed GW Bush, Dick Cheney, Kissinger and
> Hitler posting to Usenet, much less "pretty much did the same thing"
> as The Guthball's loony paranoid delusions.
Yes. I believe the medical diagnosis is 'Crazy as a shit house rat'.
>
> Notice how The Guthball is talking to himself here? Of course
> Guthball is only capable of stringing unrelated names together and
> then spewing some shite at the end.
>
> Personally, I've never noticed GW Bush, Dick Cheney, Kissinger and
> Hitler posting to Usenet, much less "pretty much did the same thing"
> as The Guthball's loony paranoid delusions.
Yes. I believe the medical diagnosis is 'Crazy as a shit house rat'.
Brad Guth
Jul 9, 2012, 10:55:56 AM7/9/12
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damaging stuff from the eyes and minds of their republic most all the
time, and then only upon being whistle-blown or discovered by
outsiders and/or otherwise forced to confess will they selectively
divulge whatever makes them look way better than they really are,
because often the really bad stuff might never gets divulged.
Governments are comprised of humans, and as we know as a matter of
fact that with power and authority not all such humans are going to be
infallible to accommodating their own agendas nor immune to greed and
corruption, or even without a few hidden social, political and faith-
based faults that influence their actions and reactions. Naturally
their political and faith-based trick is always to ideally lose track
of everything that’s potentially damaging, or at the very least to
distort and/or delay the truth about any bad or weird stuff for as
long as possible so that only future generations get to deal with any
of it. Most likely Israel managed to give Yasser Arafat a form of
expedited death via Polonium(Po210), because at least no other nation
or state had any valid reason to do this, other than on behalf of
Israel. (btw; mostly Jews tend to seek, stockpile and hoard radium
because of its extremely profitable medical and research values, and
anyone with any significant cache of radium would also have easy
access to polonium that has an extremely lethal 4.6 month half life,
where only 0.1 microgram can represent a lethal dosage)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polonium
Looking the other way once something is set in motion, such as those
walking guns via the “Fast and furious” policy of our Bacardi ATF, or
the provoking of other nations in order to cause them to fail, will
eventually return its Karma upon us. Such as their hiring, training
and outfitting OBL to kill as many Russians in Afghanistan as possible
is exactly what eventually got us to the Karma of 9/11. Of course you
can always pretend that our government(s) never did any such thing,
and while you’re at it you might as well pretend that the USSR and our
USA didn’t create North Korea after we managed to get Japan to attack
us so that we didn’t have to deal with Hitler until most of the dirty
work and sacrifice had been accomplished by others. The USSR almost
lost everything in playing that cat and mouse game with their own
Karma, but lucky as hell for us they also managed to distract Hitler’s
forces so badly that it essentially caused the demise of Hitler before
we ever got directly involved.
ZNRs (Zionist Nazi Republicans and/or Rednecks) like our Harlow (aka
HVAC), Hagar (aka Hägar) and our AMWAY sales rep Saul Levy, are all
deeply pro Hitler as much as they have always been pro GW Bush, Dick
Cheney and brown-nosing Kissinger for good measure. If there's any
intellectual terrorist here in Google Groups or these public Usenet/
newsgroups, it's these ZNR FUD-masters. They’ll claim Atheism but
then go about acting/reacting exactly like a born-again devout Zionist
Semite, that so happens to also be a Republican and thoroughly redneck
at every turn. They also believe there’s no such thing as hell or too
big of government, and they see nothing wrong with any of its past,
current or future actions as long as outsiders are never permitted to
modify or revise a damn thing.
A truly wise government with any common decency and speck of remorse
would police by tracking each of these social/intellectual perverts
down, and terminate their ability to publish anything (just like how
Charles Manson is treated). Only the most corrupted governments need
to tolerate and work with these pathetic kinds of people that’ll use
and/or create most anything in order to justify their war(s).
Alan Erskine
Jul 9, 2012, 6:43:05 PM7/9/12
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On 9/07/2012 9:09 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
> Notice how Alan, Fred, rabbi Saul Levy, David Staup, Harlow Victor
> Allen Campbell and others are always too dumbfounded and/or instructed
> not to care about anything other than topic/author stalking and
> trashing everything they see fit. Of course GW Bush, Dick Cheney,
> Kissinger and Hitler pretty much did the same thing. Try to imagine
> what Hitler and his Third Reich army of brown-nosed clowns and minions
> could have accomplished with their control of this internet.
You are insane.
>
> Notice how Alan, Fred, rabbi Saul Levy, David Staup, Harlow Victor
> Allen Campbell and others are always too dumbfounded and/or instructed
> not to care about anything other than topic/author stalking and
> trashing everything they see fit. Of course GW Bush, Dick Cheney,
> Kissinger and Hitler pretty much did the same thing. Try to imagine
> what Hitler and his Third Reich army of brown-nosed clowns and minions
> could have accomplished with their control of this internet.
Alan Erskine
Jul 9, 2012, 6:43:58 PM7/9/12
to
On 10/07/2012 12:55 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> ZNRs (Zionist Nazi Republicans and/or Rednecks) like our Harlow (aka
> HVAC), Hagar (aka Hägar) and our AMWAY sales rep Saul Levy, are all
> deeply pro Hitler as much as they have always been pro GW Bush, Dick
> Cheney and brown-nosing Kissinger for good measure. If there's any
> intellectual terrorist here in Google Groups or these public Usenet/
> newsgroups, it's these ZNR FUD-masters. They’ll claim Atheism but
> then go about acting/reacting exactly like a born-again devout Zionist
> Semite, that so happens to also be a Republican and thoroughly redneck
> at every turn. They also believe there’s no such thing as hell or too
> big of government, and they see nothing wrong with any of its past,
> current or future actions as long as outsiders are never permitted to
> modify or revise a damn thing.
You are insane.
> ZNRs (Zionist Nazi Republicans and/or Rednecks) like our Harlow (aka
> HVAC), Hagar (aka Hägar) and our AMWAY sales rep Saul Levy, are all
> deeply pro Hitler as much as they have always been pro GW Bush, Dick
> Cheney and brown-nosing Kissinger for good measure. If there's any
> intellectual terrorist here in Google Groups or these public Usenet/
> newsgroups, it's these ZNR FUD-masters. They’ll claim Atheism but
> then go about acting/reacting exactly like a born-again devout Zionist
> Semite, that so happens to also be a Republican and thoroughly redneck
> at every turn. They also believe there’s no such thing as hell or too
> big of government, and they see nothing wrong with any of its past,
> current or future actions as long as outsiders are never permitted to
> modify or revise a damn thing.
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Brad Guth
Jul 10, 2012, 9:35:25 AM7/10/12
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Going off-world is not just about our obtaining precious gems and
valuable metals, because there’s also a growing shortage of foods
that’ll need some help at their cultivation, harvesting, processing
and distribution that’ll have to become a whole lot less impacting
than corn and a few others that we keep taking for granted, and
especially of those food sources and products that are so fresh water
intensive that’ll also have to get replaced.
According to one somewhat recent review of just the impact of our corn
that’s heavily subsidized and utilized in most everything we eat and
burn, whereas annually (as of 2010) demanding nine million tonnes of
fertilizers (mostly artificially produced and not to mentions the
toxics used for pest and weed control) and otherwise it’s a crop
that’s directly contributing 42 million tonnes of CO2 per year, and
that’s not even including the all-inclusive infrastructure of
transporting, storage and commercial processing nor the biodiversity
digestion of all those calories and their subsequent excess of CO2 and
CH4 that’s given off. This research story of our future needs as
having been recently publish in the 2012 July issue of Popular Science
on behalf of Kalee Thompson and Maggie Koerth-Baker isn’t all that
unusual nor is it just another doom and gloom without offering
multiple solutions for improved living and resource efficiencies that
we can actually do something about.
A few of my 100 km spires and otherwise flat towers can accommodate
most of us with terrestrial capacity and efficiency to accommodate
billions more. Advanced thinking architects like Paul-Eric Schirr-
Bonnans offer terrestrial solutions that can also translate into off-
world accommodations (above and below ground) wherever the raw surface
environments are less human friendly.
Therefore, going off-world isn’t a notion limited as to another gold-
rush era for obtaining one specific rare element or valuable
compound. However, if we should fail at even developing the interior
of our moon, not to mention our ignoring what the extremely nearby
planet Venus has to offer, and at the same time continue to ignore
what improvements should have been done to Earth, then it’s just a
matter of a foreseeable time before the existing terrestrial resources
are too few and otherwise too spendy for most of us to deal with, and
all that’s left is greed, hoarding, crime and wars upon wars so that
the upper .1% caste can continue to live large at the expense and
demise of the lower 99.9% caste.
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valuable metals, because there’s also a growing shortage of foods
that’ll need some help at their cultivation, harvesting, processing
and distribution that’ll have to become a whole lot less impacting
than corn and a few others that we keep taking for granted, and
especially of those food sources and products that are so fresh water
intensive that’ll also have to get replaced.
According to one somewhat recent review of just the impact of our corn
that’s heavily subsidized and utilized in most everything we eat and
burn, whereas annually (as of 2010) demanding nine million tonnes of
fertilizers (mostly artificially produced and not to mentions the
toxics used for pest and weed control) and otherwise it’s a crop
that’s directly contributing 42 million tonnes of CO2 per year, and
that’s not even including the all-inclusive infrastructure of
transporting, storage and commercial processing nor the biodiversity
digestion of all those calories and their subsequent excess of CO2 and
CH4 that’s given off. This research story of our future needs as
having been recently publish in the 2012 July issue of Popular Science
on behalf of Kalee Thompson and Maggie Koerth-Baker isn’t all that
unusual nor is it just another doom and gloom without offering
multiple solutions for improved living and resource efficiencies that
we can actually do something about.
A few of my 100 km spires and otherwise flat towers can accommodate
most of us with terrestrial capacity and efficiency to accommodate
billions more. Advanced thinking architects like Paul-Eric Schirr-
Bonnans offer terrestrial solutions that can also translate into off-
world accommodations (above and below ground) wherever the raw surface
environments are less human friendly.
Therefore, going off-world isn’t a notion limited as to another gold-
rush era for obtaining one specific rare element or valuable
compound. However, if we should fail at even developing the interior
of our moon, not to mention our ignoring what the extremely nearby
planet Venus has to offer, and at the same time continue to ignore
what improvements should have been done to Earth, then it’s just a
matter of a foreseeable time before the existing terrestrial resources
are too few and otherwise too spendy for most of us to deal with, and
all that’s left is greed, hoarding, crime and wars upon wars so that
the upper .1% caste can continue to live large at the expense and
demise of the lower 99.9% caste.
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Alan Erskine
Jul 10, 2012, 2:58:55 PM7/10/12
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On 10/07/2012 11:23 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Going off-world is not just about obtaining precious gems and valuable
> Going off-world is not just about obtaining precious gems and valuable
> metals, because there’s also a growing shortage of foods that’ll need
> some help at their cultivation, harvesting, processing and
> distribution that’ll have to become a whole lot less impacting than
> corn and a few others that we keep taking for granted, and especially
> of those food sources and products that are so fresh water intensive
> that’ll also have to get replaced.
You are insane.
> some help at their cultivation, harvesting, processing and
> distribution that’ll have to become a whole lot less impacting than
> corn and a few others that we keep taking for granted, and especially
> of those food sources and products that are so fresh water intensive
> that’ll also have to get replaced.
Brad Guth
Jul 11, 2012, 7:45:43 AM7/11/12
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Apparently my previously posted estimate or swag of 1e15 wandering/
rogue or nomad planets within our galaxy of toughly a trillion stars
(including red dwarfs being the vast majority) is not far off the
latest research mark, because others having come to the same
conclusion have gotten their version of this planet inventory surplus
as recently published in Astronomy. It seems that stars and their
initial companions of planets or failed stars (aka gas giants) have
been tossed out and thus set free by gravitational interactions, not
to mention when the parent star defaults as a WD or NS upon its final
demise after being a red giant and having depleted through its helium
flashover phase. Of course this kind of scientific update doesn’t
exactly help us out unless our solar system encounters and captures
another planet, because we still can’t seem to get ourselves safely to/
from our moon, much less an extremely nearby planet like Venus that
has so much of most everything to offer.
Going off-world is not only about our obtaining precious gems and
valuable metals, because there’s also a growing shortage of helium and
otherwise foods that’ll need some genetic and logistical help at their
cultivation, harvesting, processing and distribution that demands a
great deal of energy that’ll have to become a whole lot less
environment impacting than corn and a few other crops that we keep
reserves can be established most everywhere on Earth..
According to one somewhat recent review of just the ongoing impact of
demanding nine million tonnes worth of fertilizers (mostly
human and animal waste is further processed and disposed of. This
research manifesto of our future needs for food and energy as having
translate into off-world accommodations (above and below ground)
wherever the raw surface environments are marginal or less than human
nor upsetting, unless you’re one of our typical FUD-masters as a brown-
nosed clown that’s working every angle for benefiting the upper caste
that could obviously care less what happens to the rest of us.
“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow/5629579402364691314
Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
http://groups.google.com/groups/search
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rogue or nomad planets within our galaxy of toughly a trillion stars
(including red dwarfs being the vast majority) is not far off the
latest research mark, because others having come to the same
conclusion have gotten their version of this planet inventory surplus
as recently published in Astronomy. It seems that stars and their
initial companions of planets or failed stars (aka gas giants) have
been tossed out and thus set free by gravitational interactions, not
to mention when the parent star defaults as a WD or NS upon its final
demise after being a red giant and having depleted through its helium
flashover phase. Of course this kind of scientific update doesn’t
exactly help us out unless our solar system encounters and captures
another planet, because we still can’t seem to get ourselves safely to/
from our moon, much less an extremely nearby planet like Venus that
has so much of most everything to offer.
Going off-world is not only about our obtaining precious gems and
valuable metals, because there’s also a growing shortage of helium and
otherwise foods that’ll need some genetic and logistical help at their
cultivation, harvesting, processing and distribution that demands a
great deal of energy that’ll have to become a whole lot less
environment impacting than corn and a few other crops that we keep
taking for granted, and especially of those food sources and products
that are so fresh water intensive that’ll also have to get replaced
unless vast reservoirs of fresh water and/or affordable clean energy
that are so fresh water intensive that’ll also have to get replaced
reserves can be established most everywhere on Earth..
According to one somewhat recent review of just the ongoing impact of
our corn that’s heavily subsidized and utilized in most everything we
eat and burn, whereas annually (as of 2010) this corn has been
demanding nine million tonnes worth of fertilizers (mostly
artificially produced and not to mentions the toxics used for pest and
weed control) and otherwise it’s a crop that’s directly contributing
42 million tonnes of CO2 per year, and that’s not even including the
all-inclusive infrastructure of transporting, storage and commercial
processing nor the biodiversity digestion of all those calories and
their subsequent excess of CO2 and CH4 that’s given off before our
weed control) and otherwise it’s a crop that’s directly contributing
42 million tonnes of CO2 per year, and that’s not even including the
all-inclusive infrastructure of transporting, storage and commercial
processing nor the biodiversity digestion of all those calories and
human and animal waste is further processed and disposed of. This
research manifesto of our future needs for food and energy as having
been recently publish in the 2012 July issue of Popular Science on
behalf of Kalee Thompson and Maggie Koerth-Baker, isn’t all that
unusual nor is it just another doom and gloom without offering
multiple solutions for improved living and resource efficiencies that
we can actually do something about.
Implementing a few of my 100 km spires and otherwise “flat towers” can
multiple solutions for improved living and resource efficiencies that
we can actually do something about.
accommodate most of us with terrestrial capacity and efficiency to
accommodate billions more. Advanced thinking architects like Paul-
Eric Schirr-Bonnans offer terrestrial solutions that can also
accommodate billions more. Advanced thinking architects like Paul-
translate into off-world accommodations (above and below ground)
wherever the raw surface environments are marginal or less than human
friendly.
Therefore, going off-world isn’t a notion limited as to another gold-
rush era for obtaining one specific rare element or valuable mineral
Therefore, going off-world isn’t a notion limited as to another gold-
compound. However, if we should fail at even developing the interior
of our moon, not to mention our ignoring what the extremely nearby
planet Venus has to offer, and at the same time continue to ignore
whatever improvements could and should have been done to Earth, then
of our moon, not to mention our ignoring what the extremely nearby
planet Venus has to offer, and at the same time continue to ignore
it’s just a matter of a foreseeable time before the existing
terrestrial resources are too few and otherwise too spendy for most of
us to deal with, and all that’s left is greed, hoarding, crime and
wars upon wars so that the upper .1% caste can continue to live large
at the expense and demise of the lower 99.9% caste.
Taking another deductive look-see at Venus can’t be all that difficult
terrestrial resources are too few and otherwise too spendy for most of
us to deal with, and all that’s left is greed, hoarding, crime and
wars upon wars so that the upper .1% caste can continue to live large
at the expense and demise of the lower 99.9% caste.
nor upsetting, unless you’re one of our typical FUD-masters as a brown-
nosed clown that’s working every angle for benefiting the upper caste
that could obviously care less what happens to the rest of us.
“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow/5629579402364691314
Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
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Brad Guth
Jul 13, 2012, 9:21:32 AM7/13/12
to
It seems the mainstream status-quo doesn't like outsiders even reading
about or much less giving them any credit for their research. Being
topic/author stalked by one of their own kind and seeing no policing
whatsoever, is a very clear sign of worse things to come.
Including red dwarfs, our stellar accounting for the Milky Way galaxy
is roughly worth a trillion stars, and if there's a hundred thousand
wandering planets per star and no doubt at least a million planetoids
and asteroids per star, as also having been set free to move about,
whereas it's going to get very crowded out there, as well as easily
doubling the mass of our galaxy.
Unfortunately, we can't seem to pillage and plunder the vast resources
of our physically dark and paramagnetic moon, not to mention the
extremely nearby planet Venus.
> question:https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow...
about or much less giving them any credit for their research. Being
topic/author stalked by one of their own kind and seeing no policing
whatsoever, is a very clear sign of worse things to come.
Including red dwarfs, our stellar accounting for the Milky Way galaxy
is roughly worth a trillion stars, and if there's a hundred thousand
wandering planets per star and no doubt at least a million planetoids
and asteroids per star, as also having been set free to move about,
whereas it's going to get very crowded out there, as well as easily
doubling the mass of our galaxy.
Unfortunately, we can't seem to pillage and plunder the vast resources
of our physically dark and paramagnetic moon, not to mention the
extremely nearby planet Venus.
Alan Erskine
Jul 13, 2012, 10:39:30 AM7/13/12
to
On 13/07/2012 11:21 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> It seems the mainstream status-quo doesn't like outsiders even reading
> about or much less giving them any credit for their research. Being
> topic/author stalked by one of their own kind and seeing no policing
> whatsoever, is a very clear sign of worse things to come.
>
You are insane.
> It seems the mainstream status-quo doesn't like outsiders even reading
> about or much less giving them any credit for their research. Being
> topic/author stalked by one of their own kind and seeing no policing
> whatsoever, is a very clear sign of worse things to come.
>
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jacob navia
Jul 13, 2012, 2:00:26 PM7/13/12
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Le 13/07/12 19:06, Fred J. McCall a écrit :
> same thing.
>
> There is a difference between having an open mind and having a hole in
> your head. You fall into the latter category....
>
In his recent post in this group:
Re: Google the video "9/11 Missing Links". 9/11 was a Jew Job!
Mr Guth accuses Jews of being behind the 9/11 attacks and... of
being resposible of the Dumb Blonde's jokes.
!!!!!!
He says
<quote>
Jews are not Whites but insane mongrels who hate Whites. Jews started
all the jokes about Whites like Dumb Blondes, Rednecks, Polish Jokes.
<end quote>
HE IS COMPLETELY NUTS!
jacob
> Brad Guth <brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> It seems the mainstream status-quo doesn't like outsiders even reading
>> about or much less giving them any credit for their research.
>>
>
> You don't have 'research', Guthball. You spew idiocy. It's not the
>
>>
>> It seems the mainstream status-quo doesn't like outsiders even reading
>> about or much less giving them any credit for their research.
>>
>
> same thing.
>
> There is a difference between having an open mind and having a hole in
> your head. You fall into the latter category....
>
In his recent post in this group:
Re: Google the video "9/11 Missing Links". 9/11 was a Jew Job!
Mr Guth accuses Jews of being behind the 9/11 attacks and... of
being resposible of the Dumb Blonde's jokes.
!!!!!!
He says
<quote>
Jews are not Whites but insane mongrels who hate Whites. Jews started
all the jokes about Whites like Dumb Blondes, Rednecks, Polish Jokes.
<end quote>
jacob
Brad Guth
Jul 14, 2012, 12:34:14 AM7/14/12
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On Jul 13, 11:00 am, jacob navia <ja...@spamsink.net> wrote:
> Le 13/07/12 19:06, Fred J. McCall a écrit :
>
> Le 13/07/12 19:06, Fred J. McCall a écrit :
>
Alan Erskine
Jul 14, 2012, 9:14:42 AM7/14/12
to
On 14/07/2012 2:34 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Why is it my fault there are so many bad Jews and so few bad Muslims?
>
Now you are an insane racist.
> Why is it my fault there are so many bad Jews and so few bad Muslims?
>
Brad Guth
Jul 14, 2012, 3:25:25 PM7/14/12
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Items arriving by way of the Sirius Oort cloud could be a real kicker
and/or wakeup call for us, especially when they’ll be of the 1+ km
diameter class of icy asteroids that could impose a serious threat to
our limited resources and often unprepared ways of surviving.
Actually, the lower density and somewhat physically softer and/or
porous interior of our moon should be even wetter than anything Mars
has to offer, as partially because of our moon having formed its
rather thick and fully fused basalt crust that’s also highly
paramagnetic and doesn't even manage to leak all that much of its
fission produced (radiation decay produced) helium. At least that has
to be the best outcome case if you must buy into the moon formed out
of Earth and large impactor theory.
When something made extensively from Earth is also extremely molten
hot and suddenly placed into a cold and hard vacuum, it tends to
quickly form its outer crust while the mostly fluid rock and metal
interior continues to simmer, vaporize and/or boil off numerous gasses
(including H2O) that can't so easily escape to space, and thus capable
of forming geode pockets and porous layers of considerable volume.
At the very least 0.1% of our moon (2.2e16 m3) could be entirely vapor
and/or packed with various brines and even hydrocarbons that could be
easily taped and utilized to suit. I certainly wouldn’t be all that
surprised to see 1% (2.2e17 m3) as hollow or porous, because a lot of
common geode rocks offer more than a 10% of their volume that’s devoid
of solids.
https://www.google.com/search?q=geode+rock
https://www.google.com/search?q=geode+rocks&num=100&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=747&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=NAznT46xA-jC2wXOy8jZCQ&ved=0CM4EELAE&biw=1039&bih=738
Even planet Earth has enormous geode pockets or caverness voids.
However, our planet isn’t exactly hollow, except in numerous places
where crystals have grown and the underground environment was capable
of converting minerals which grew into crystals and otherwise out-
gassed and/or once having displaced enough volume in order to help
form those enormous underground caverns. There's certainly no obvious
reason(s) to think our moon is any more or less inert nor as having
less vapor generating capable geology than Earth. In fact, with less
core gravity could mean the growth of such crystals and geology
outgassing (including 4He and Rn222) could actually be considerably
greater portion than here on Earth. As a stupendous planetoid like
our moon cools, and its fused paramagnetic basalt crust represents an
extremely tough and impervious shell, plus its total spherical volume
shrinks and keeps building those gas pressures inside, should more
than keep sustaining those interior voids and/or preventing liquids
from escaping.
That terrific moon of ours with its offset core offering a near zero
gravity interior is also going to be geode pocket friendly, along with
porous layers or simply low density filler as situated below that
extremely tough and paramagnetic basalt crust. On the other hand,
Venus is still puking its valuable guts out, so nothing underground
would likely be worth the added risk of our having to go after.
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and/or wakeup call for us, especially when they’ll be of the 1+ km
diameter class of icy asteroids that could impose a serious threat to
our limited resources and often unprepared ways of surviving.
Actually, the lower density and somewhat physically softer and/or
porous interior of our moon should be even wetter than anything Mars
has to offer, as partially because of our moon having formed its
rather thick and fully fused basalt crust that’s also highly
paramagnetic and doesn't even manage to leak all that much of its
fission produced (radiation decay produced) helium. At least that has
to be the best outcome case if you must buy into the moon formed out
of Earth and large impactor theory.
When something made extensively from Earth is also extremely molten
hot and suddenly placed into a cold and hard vacuum, it tends to
quickly form its outer crust while the mostly fluid rock and metal
interior continues to simmer, vaporize and/or boil off numerous gasses
(including H2O) that can't so easily escape to space, and thus capable
of forming geode pockets and porous layers of considerable volume.
At the very least 0.1% of our moon (2.2e16 m3) could be entirely vapor
and/or packed with various brines and even hydrocarbons that could be
easily taped and utilized to suit. I certainly wouldn’t be all that
surprised to see 1% (2.2e17 m3) as hollow or porous, because a lot of
common geode rocks offer more than a 10% of their volume that’s devoid
of solids.
https://www.google.com/search?q=geode+rock
https://www.google.com/search?q=geode+rocks&num=100&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=747&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=NAznT46xA-jC2wXOy8jZCQ&ved=0CM4EELAE&biw=1039&bih=738
Even planet Earth has enormous geode pockets or caverness voids.
However, our planet isn’t exactly hollow, except in numerous places
where crystals have grown and the underground environment was capable
of converting minerals which grew into crystals and otherwise out-
gassed and/or once having displaced enough volume in order to help
form those enormous underground caverns. There's certainly no obvious
reason(s) to think our moon is any more or less inert nor as having
less vapor generating capable geology than Earth. In fact, with less
core gravity could mean the growth of such crystals and geology
outgassing (including 4He and Rn222) could actually be considerably
greater portion than here on Earth. As a stupendous planetoid like
our moon cools, and its fused paramagnetic basalt crust represents an
extremely tough and impervious shell, plus its total spherical volume
shrinks and keeps building those gas pressures inside, should more
than keep sustaining those interior voids and/or preventing liquids
from escaping.
That terrific moon of ours with its offset core offering a near zero
gravity interior is also going to be geode pocket friendly, along with
porous layers or simply low density filler as situated below that
extremely tough and paramagnetic basalt crust. On the other hand,
Venus is still puking its valuable guts out, so nothing underground
would likely be worth the added risk of our having to go after.
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On Jul 11, 4:45 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
Brad Guth
Jul 15, 2012, 2:17:58 PM7/15/12
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Besides exploiting our physically dark moon that's loaded with all
sorts of valuable metals and 3He, there's also the extremely nearby
planet Venus to exploit without our having to dig, drill or much less
having to tunnel into it.
Unlike astronomy and astrophysics that has to guess at whatever any
given point source of stellar illumination or that of any minor
reflected point-source speck of albedo has to offer, whereas "Guth
Venus" is seriously nearby and big as hell, offering us actual
physical terrain and variations of that physically hot environment
that simply can't be so easily explained away as any perfectly natural
geology that we know of.
The ongoing science of astronomy is nearly all/100% subjective, and
it’s so often socially/politically and/or that of a faith-based biased
form of intellectually skewed observationology that gets to apply as
much obfuscation as they like, leaving us with only at best our
individual deductive interpretations to guide us onto the next step.
Funny how any quality image of Venus that seems perfectly weird enough
doesn't mainstream qualify as anything except that of a perfectly
natural terrain of hot rocks, even though not one other image of any
other planet (including Earth) or moon has anything to offer that’s
remotely as large of scale and complex looking, as well as seemingly
offering such an artificial or rational infrastructure of an off-world
community at the same time.
Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon. Go figure
how those continually opposed to anything that isn't insider Oligarch
approved, are also required and/or compelled to topic/author stalk and
bash at this one for all they can muster.
“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow/5629579402364691314
Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
http://groups.google.com/groups/search
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> https://www.google.com/search?q=geode+rocks&num=100&hl=en&client=fire...
sorts of valuable metals and 3He, there's also the extremely nearby
planet Venus to exploit without our having to dig, drill or much less
having to tunnel into it.
Unlike astronomy and astrophysics that has to guess at whatever any
given point source of stellar illumination or that of any minor
reflected point-source speck of albedo has to offer, whereas "Guth
Venus" is seriously nearby and big as hell, offering us actual
physical terrain and variations of that physically hot environment
that simply can't be so easily explained away as any perfectly natural
geology that we know of.
The ongoing science of astronomy is nearly all/100% subjective, and
it’s so often socially/politically and/or that of a faith-based biased
form of intellectually skewed observationology that gets to apply as
much obfuscation as they like, leaving us with only at best our
individual deductive interpretations to guide us onto the next step.
Funny how any quality image of Venus that seems perfectly weird enough
doesn't mainstream qualify as anything except that of a perfectly
natural terrain of hot rocks, even though not one other image of any
other planet (including Earth) or moon has anything to offer that’s
remotely as large of scale and complex looking, as well as seemingly
offering such an artificial or rational infrastructure of an off-world
community at the same time.
Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon. Go figure
how those continually opposed to anything that isn't insider Oligarch
approved, are also required and/or compelled to topic/author stalk and
bash at this one for all they can muster.
“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
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Alan Erskine
Jul 15, 2012, 10:55:55 PM7/15/12
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On 16/07/2012 4:17 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
> Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
> Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon. Go figure
> how those continually opposed to anything that isn't insider Oligarch
> approved, are also required and/or compelled to topic/author stalk and
> bash at this one for all they can muster.
You are insane.
>
> Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
> Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon. Go figure
> how those continually opposed to anything that isn't insider Oligarch
> approved, are also required and/or compelled to topic/author stalk and
> bash at this one for all they can muster.
Brad Guth
Jul 16, 2012, 12:37:20 AM7/16/12
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Notice how the ZNRs and FUD-masters of Usenet/newsgroups have a policy
of never policing their own kind.
Perhaps it's only the Oligarchs and Rothschilds that want nothing to
do with private off-world exploitations.
of never policing their own kind.
Perhaps it's only the Oligarchs and Rothschilds that want nothing to
do with private off-world exploitations.
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Alan Erskine
Jul 16, 2012, 6:31:37 AM7/16/12
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On 16/07/2012 2:37 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Notice how the ZNRs and FUD-masters of Usenet/newsgroups have a policy
> of never policing their own kind.
>
> Perhaps it's only the Oligarchs and Rothschilds that want nothing to
> do with private off-world exploitations.
You are insane.
> Notice how the ZNRs and FUD-masters of Usenet/newsgroups have a policy
> of never policing their own kind.
>
> Perhaps it's only the Oligarchs and Rothschilds that want nothing to
> do with private off-world exploitations.
HVAC
Jul 16, 2012, 8:04:59 AM7/16/12
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On 7/16/2012 12:37 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Notice how the ZNRs and FUD-masters of Usenet/newsgroups have a policy
> of never policing their own kind.
'Policing' them? I 'encourage' them!
> Notice how the ZNRs and FUD-masters of Usenet/newsgroups have a policy
> of never policing their own kind.
>
> Perhaps it's only the Oligarchs and Rothschilds that want nothing to
> do with private off-world exploitations.
>
>
> On Jul 15, 11:17 am, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Besides exploiting our physically dark moon that's loaded with all
>> sorts of valuable metals and 3He, there's also the extremely nearby
>> planet Venus to exploit without our having to dig, drill or much less
>> having to tunnel into it.
>>
>> Unlike astronomy and astrophysics that has to guess at whatever any
>> given point source of stellar illumination or that of any minor
>> reflected point-source speck of albedo has to offer, whereas "Guth
>> Venus" is seriously nearby and big as hell, offering us actual
>> physical terrain and variations of that physically hot environment
>> that simply can't be so easily explained away as any perfectly natural
>> geology that we know of.
>>
>> The ongoing science of astronomy is nearly all/100% subjective, and
>> form of intellectually skewed observationology that gets to apply as
>> much obfuscation as they like, leaving us with only at best our
>> individual deductive interpretations to guide us onto the next step.
>> Funny how any quality image of Venus that seems perfectly weird enough
>> doesn't mainstream qualify as anything except that of a perfectly
>> natural terrain of hot rocks, even though not one other image of any
>> other planet (including Earth) or moon has anything to offer that�s
>> much obfuscation as they like, leaving us with only at best our
>> individual deductive interpretations to guide us onto the next step.
>> Funny how any quality image of Venus that seems perfectly weird enough
>> doesn't mainstream qualify as anything except that of a perfectly
>> natural terrain of hot rocks, even though not one other image of any
>> remotely as large of scale and complex looking, as well as seemingly
>> offering such an artificial or rational infrastructure of an off-world
>> community at the same time.
>>
>> Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
>> Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon. Go figure
>> how those continually opposed to anything that isn't insider Oligarch
>> approved, are also required and/or compelled to topic/author stalk and
>> bash at this one for all they can muster.
>>
>> �Guth Venus� 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
>> offering such an artificial or rational infrastructure of an off-world
>> community at the same time.
>>
>> Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
>> Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon. Go figure
>> how those continually opposed to anything that isn't insider Oligarch
>> approved, are also required and/or compelled to topic/author stalk and
>> bash at this one for all they can muster.
>>
>> question:https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow...
>>
>> Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
>> Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>> http://translate.google.com/#
>> Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/�Guth Venus�
>>
>> Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
>> Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>> http://translate.google.com/#
>>
>> On Jul 14, 12:25 pm, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:> Items arriving by way of the Sirius Oort cloud could be a real kicker
>>> and/or wakeup call for us, especially when they�ll be of the 1+ km
>> On Jul 14, 12:25 pm, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:> Items arriving by way of the Sirius Oort cloud could be a real kicker
>>> diameter class of icy asteroids that could impose a serious threat to
>>> our limited resources and often unprepared ways of surviving.
>>
>>> Actually, the lower density and somewhat physically softer and/or
>>> porous interior of our moon should be even wetter than anything Mars
>>> has to offer, as partially because of our moon having formed its
>>> rather thick and fully fused basalt crust that�s also highly
>>> our limited resources and often unprepared ways of surviving.
>>
>>> Actually, the lower density and somewhat physically softer and/or
>>> porous interior of our moon should be even wetter than anything Mars
>>> has to offer, as partially because of our moon having formed its
>>> paramagnetic and doesn't even manage to leak all that much of its
>>> fission produced (radiation decay produced) helium. At least that has
>>> to be the best outcome case if you must buy into the moon formed out
>>> of Earth and large impactor theory.
>>
>>> When something made extensively from Earth is also extremely molten
>>> hot and suddenly placed into a cold and hard vacuum, it tends to
>>> quickly form its outer crust while the mostly fluid rock and metal
>>> interior continues to simmer, vaporize and/or boil off numerous gasses
>>> (including H2O) that can't so easily escape to space, and thus capable
>>> of forming geode pockets and porous layers of considerable volume.
>>
>>> At the very least 0.1% of our moon (2.2e16 m3) could be entirely vapor
>>> and/or packed with various brines and even hydrocarbons that could be
>>> easily taped and utilized to suit. I certainly wouldn�t be all that
>>> fission produced (radiation decay produced) helium. At least that has
>>> to be the best outcome case if you must buy into the moon formed out
>>> of Earth and large impactor theory.
>>
>>> When something made extensively from Earth is also extremely molten
>>> hot and suddenly placed into a cold and hard vacuum, it tends to
>>> quickly form its outer crust while the mostly fluid rock and metal
>>> interior continues to simmer, vaporize and/or boil off numerous gasses
>>> (including H2O) that can't so easily escape to space, and thus capable
>>> of forming geode pockets and porous layers of considerable volume.
>>
>>> At the very least 0.1% of our moon (2.2e16 m3) could be entirely vapor
>>> and/or packed with various brines and even hydrocarbons that could be
>>> surprised to see 1% (2.2e17 m3) as hollow or porous, because a lot of
>>> common geode rocks offer more than a 10% of their volume that�s devoid
>>> of solids.
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=geode+rock
>>
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=geode+rocks&num=100&hl=en&client=fire...
>>
>>> Even planet Earth has enormous geode pockets or caverness voids.
>>> However, our planet isn�t exactly hollow, except in numerous places
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=geode+rock
>>
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=geode+rocks&num=100&hl=en&client=fire...
>>
>>> Even planet Earth has enormous geode pockets or caverness voids.
>>> where crystals have grown and the underground environment was capable
>>> of converting minerals which grew into crystals and otherwise out-
>>> gassed and/or once having displaced enough volume in order to help
>>> form those enormous underground caverns. There's certainly no obvious
>>> reason(s) to think our moon is any more or less inert nor as having
>>> less vapor generating capable geology than Earth. In fact, with less
>>> core gravity could mean the growth of such crystals and geology
>>> outgassing (including 4He and Rn222) could actually be considerably
>>> greater portion than here on Earth. As a stupendous planetoid like
>>> our moon cools, and its fused paramagnetic basalt crust represents an
>>> extremely tough and impervious shell, plus its total spherical volume
>>> shrinks and keeps building those gas pressures inside, should more
>>> than keep sustaining those interior voids and/or preventing liquids
>>> from escaping.
>>
>>> That terrific moon of ours with its offset core offering a near zero
>>> gravity interior is also going to be geode pocket friendly, along with
>>> porous layers or simply low density filler as situated below that
>>> extremely tough and paramagnetic basalt crust. On the other hand,
>>> Venus is still puking its valuable guts out, so nothing underground
>>> would likely be worth the added risk of our having to go after.
>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>>> http://translate.google.com/#
>>> Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/�Guth Venus�
>>> of converting minerals which grew into crystals and otherwise out-
>>> gassed and/or once having displaced enough volume in order to help
>>> form those enormous underground caverns. There's certainly no obvious
>>> reason(s) to think our moon is any more or less inert nor as having
>>> less vapor generating capable geology than Earth. In fact, with less
>>> core gravity could mean the growth of such crystals and geology
>>> outgassing (including 4He and Rn222) could actually be considerably
>>> greater portion than here on Earth. As a stupendous planetoid like
>>> our moon cools, and its fused paramagnetic basalt crust represents an
>>> extremely tough and impervious shell, plus its total spherical volume
>>> shrinks and keeps building those gas pressures inside, should more
>>> than keep sustaining those interior voids and/or preventing liquids
>>> from escaping.
>>
>>> That terrific moon of ours with its offset core offering a near zero
>>> gravity interior is also going to be geode pocket friendly, along with
>>> porous layers or simply low density filler as situated below that
>>> extremely tough and paramagnetic basalt crust. On the other hand,
>>> Venus is still puking its valuable guts out, so nothing underground
>>> would likely be worth the added risk of our having to go after.
>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>>> http://translate.google.com/#
>>
>>> On Jul 11, 4:45 am, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:> Apparently my previously posted estimate or swag of 1e15 wandering/
>>>> rogue or nomad planets within our galaxy of toughly a trillion stars
>>>> (including red dwarfs being the vast majority) is not far off the
>>>> latest research mark, because others having come to the same
>>>> conclusion have gotten their version of this planet inventory surplus
>>>> as recently published in Astronomy. It seems that stars and their
>>>> initial companions of planets or failed stars (aka gas giants) have
>>>> been tossed out and thus set free by gravitational interactions, not
>>>> to mention when the parent star defaults as a WD or NS upon its final
>>>> demise after being a red giant and having depleted through its helium
>>>> flashover phase. Of course this kind of scientific update doesn�t
>>> On Jul 11, 4:45 am, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:> Apparently my previously posted estimate or swag of 1e15 wandering/
>>>> rogue or nomad planets within our galaxy of toughly a trillion stars
>>>> (including red dwarfs being the vast majority) is not far off the
>>>> latest research mark, because others having come to the same
>>>> conclusion have gotten their version of this planet inventory surplus
>>>> as recently published in Astronomy. It seems that stars and their
>>>> initial companions of planets or failed stars (aka gas giants) have
>>>> been tossed out and thus set free by gravitational interactions, not
>>>> to mention when the parent star defaults as a WD or NS upon its final
>>>> demise after being a red giant and having depleted through its helium
>>>> exactly help us out unless our solar system encounters and captures
>>>> another planet, because we still can�t seem to get ourselves safely to/
>>>> from our moon, much less an extremely nearby planet like Venus that
>>>> has so much of most everything to offer.
>>
>>>> Going off-world is not only about our obtaining precious gems and
>>>> valuable metals, because there�s also a growing shortage of helium and
>>>> has so much of most everything to offer.
>>
>>>> Going off-world is not only about our obtaining precious gems and
>>>> otherwise foods that�ll need some genetic and logistical help at their
>>>> cultivation, harvesting, processing and distribution that demands a
>>>> great deal of energy that�ll have to become a whole lot less
>>>> environment impacting than corn and a few other crops that we keep
>>>> taking for granted, and especially of those food sources and products
>>>> that are so fresh water intensive that�ll also have to get replaced
>>>> taking for granted, and especially of those food sources and products
>>>> unless vast reservoirs of fresh water and/or affordable clean energy
>>>> reserves can be established most everywhere on Earth..
>>
>>>> According to one somewhat recent review of just the ongoing impact of
>>>> our corn that�s heavily subsidized and utilized in most everything we
>>>> reserves can be established most everywhere on Earth..
>>
>>>> According to one somewhat recent review of just the ongoing impact of
>>>> eat and burn, whereas annually (as of 2010) this corn has been
>>>> demanding nine million tonnes worth of fertilizers (mostly
>>>> artificially produced and not to mentions the toxics used for pest and
>>>> weed control) and otherwise it�s a crop that�s directly contributing
>>>> demanding nine million tonnes worth of fertilizers (mostly
>>>> artificially produced and not to mentions the toxics used for pest and
>>>> 42 million tonnes of CO2 per year, and that�s not even including the
>>>> all-inclusive infrastructure of transporting, storage and commercial
>>>> processing nor the biodiversity digestion of all those calories and
>>>> their subsequent excess of CO2 and CH4 that�s given off before our
>>>> processing nor the biodiversity digestion of all those calories and
>>>> human and animal waste is further processed and disposed of. This
>>>> research manifesto of our future needs for food and energy as having
>>>> been recently publish in the 2012 July issue of Popular Science on
>>>> behalf of Kalee Thompson and Maggie Koerth-Baker, isn�t all that
>>>> research manifesto of our future needs for food and energy as having
>>>> been recently publish in the 2012 July issue of Popular Science on
>>>> unusual nor is it just another doom and gloom without offering
>>>> multiple solutions for improved living and resource efficiencies that
>>>> we can actually do something about.
>>
>>>> Implementing a few of my 100 km spires and otherwise �flat towers� can
>>>> multiple solutions for improved living and resource efficiencies that
>>>> we can actually do something about.
>>
>>>> accommodate most of us with terrestrial capacity and efficiency to
>>>> accommodate billions more. Advanced thinking architects like Paul-
>>>> Eric Schirr-Bonnans offer terrestrial solutions that can also
>>>> translate into off-world accommodations (above and below ground)
>>>> wherever the raw surface environments are marginal or less than human
>>>> friendly.
>>
>>>> Therefore, going off-world isn�t a notion limited as to another gold-
>>>> accommodate billions more. Advanced thinking architects like Paul-
>>>> Eric Schirr-Bonnans offer terrestrial solutions that can also
>>>> translate into off-world accommodations (above and below ground)
>>>> wherever the raw surface environments are marginal or less than human
>>>> friendly.
>>
>>>> rush era for obtaining one specific rare element or valuable mineral
>>>> compound. However, if we should fail at even developing the interior
>>>> of our moon, not to mention our ignoring what the extremely nearby
>>>> planet Venus has to offer, and at the same time continue to ignore
>>>> whatever improvements could and should have been done to Earth, then
>>>> it�s just a matter of a foreseeable time before the existing
>>>> compound. However, if we should fail at even developing the interior
>>>> of our moon, not to mention our ignoring what the extremely nearby
>>>> planet Venus has to offer, and at the same time continue to ignore
>>>> whatever improvements could and should have been done to Earth, then
>>>> terrestrial resources are too few and otherwise too spendy for most of
>>>> us to deal with, and all that�s left is greed, hoarding, crime and
>>>> wars upon wars so that the upper .1% caste can continue to live large
>>>> at the expense and demise of the lower 99.9% caste.
>>
>>>> Taking another deductive look-see at Venus can�t be all that difficult
>>>> at the expense and demise of the lower 99.9% caste.
>>
>>>> nor upsetting, unless you�re one of our typical FUD-masters as a brown-
>>>> nosed clown that�s working every angle for benefiting the upper caste
>>>> that could obviously care less what happens to the rest of us.
>>
>>>> �Guth Venus� 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
>>
>>>> question:https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow...
>>
>>>> Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
>>>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
>>>> Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
>>>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
>>>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
>>
>>>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>>>> http://translate.google.com/#
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>>
>>>> Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
>>>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
>>>> Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
>>>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
>>>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
>>
>>>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>>>> http://translate.google.com/#
>>
>>>> On Jul 5, 9:18 pm, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Off-world resources of any kind can be continually ignored, or even
>>>>> intentionally foiled by those with terrestrial resources yet to
>>>>> pillage and profit from.
>>
>>>>> �Fossil Fuels: A Legacy of Disaster�
>>>> On Jul 5, 9:18 pm, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Off-world resources of any kind can be continually ignored, or even
>>>>> intentionally foiled by those with terrestrial resources yet to
>>>>> pillage and profit from.
>>
>>>>> http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/04/fossil_fuel_legacy.html
>>
>>>>> Of course under-reporting of death and injuries has always been an
>>>>> industry-wide tactical form of PR damage-control (aka need to know),
>>>>> and those long-term affects of Big Energy traumatizing and/or reducing
>>>>> the quality of life for those that can least afford to deal with
>>>>> modifying their environment by moving further away from anything
>>>>> that�s truly nasty, as such are typically swept under the nearest rug,
>>
>>>>> Of course under-reporting of death and injuries has always been an
>>>>> industry-wide tactical form of PR damage-control (aka need to know),
>>>>> and those long-term affects of Big Energy traumatizing and/or reducing
>>>>> the quality of life for those that can least afford to deal with
>>>>> modifying their environment by moving further away from anything
>>>>> or using FUD in order to falsely put the blame upon others, and just
>>>>> like their all-inclusive environmental consequences which are mostly
>>>>> negative, getting passed along to the next unsuspecting and typically
>>>>> dumbfounded K12 generation is Oligarch/Rothschild policy status quo.
>>
>>>>> Besides all the negative impact to our atmosphere and it�s protective
>>>>> like their all-inclusive environmental consequences which are mostly
>>>>> negative, getting passed along to the next unsuspecting and typically
>>>>> dumbfounded K12 generation is Oligarch/Rothschild policy status quo.
>>
>>>>> ozone layer, badly contaminated groundwater from defective wells and
>>>>> especially via fracking is typically ignored or at best only white-
>>>>> washed via denial and obfuscation, as well as having been typically
>>>>> accusing whatever local citizens of perpetual whining or being liars
>>>>> and extortionists when they complain about their health or their water
>>>>> becoming too nasty to drink, cook with or even bath in.
>>
>>>>> Of course many other nations on Earth have been much further exploited
>>>>> and thoroughly corrupted than ours, so we can safely figure that one
>>>>> as representing a perfectly valid death, injury and environmental
>>>>> trauma magnifier or multiplier, that again is way underreported and
>>>>> remains unlike Oligarchs and Rothschilds that never seem to complain
>>>>> about anything that�s toxic or spendy, whereas few if any Muslims had
>>>>> especially via fracking is typically ignored or at best only white-
>>>>> washed via denial and obfuscation, as well as having been typically
>>>>> accusing whatever local citizens of perpetual whining or being liars
>>>>> and extortionists when they complain about their health or their water
>>>>> becoming too nasty to drink, cook with or even bath in.
>>
>>>>> Of course many other nations on Earth have been much further exploited
>>>>> and thoroughly corrupted than ours, so we can safely figure that one
>>>>> as representing a perfectly valid death, injury and environmental
>>>>> trauma magnifier or multiplier, that again is way underreported and
>>>>> remains unlike Oligarchs and Rothschilds that never seem to complain
>>>>> been involved with such ongoing deceptions (so perhaps it�s still all
>>>>> their fault for not having been participating in the hydrocarbon
>>>>> exploitation and of its mass consumption like all the rest of us).
>>
>>>>> The really good news, is by the time 2150 or even 2122 roles around
>>>>> and we�ve survived WW3 and WW4 of perpetual nation-building that
>>>>> exploitation and of its mass consumption like all the rest of us).
>>
>>>>> The really good news, is by the time 2150 or even 2122 roles around
>>>>> seldom goes according to plan, there really shouldn�t be hardly any
>>>>> 4He(helium) nor all that much CH4/methane to go around, as well as
>>>>> other hydrocarbons as having become so scarce and/or spendy that their
>>>>> consumption should drastically fall off to something less than 10% of
>>>>> currently taking place (considering the global population of 9
>>>>> billion, this well have become a truly monumental accomplishment). By
>>>>> the year 2222 and if we�re still lucky with having only 12 billion of
>>>>> other hydrocarbons as having become so scarce and/or spendy that their
>>>>> consumption should drastically fall off to something less than 10% of
>>>>> currently taking place (considering the global population of 9
>>>>> billion, this well have become a truly monumental accomplishment). By
>>>>> us, whereas most all of our environmental trauma caused by the
>>>>> previous hydrocarbon consumption and our helium loss era should be
>>>>> practically cleared up, and once again our atmosphere including its
>>>>> nifty ozone layer should eventually become a whole lot cleaner and
>>>>> doing a fine job of better protecting us.
>>
>>>>> Instead of human cremation that takes a considerable amount of energy
>>>>> and causes pollution, there will be only liquefaction methods used,
>>>>> and the end product re-utilized in various constructive ways of
>>>>> recycling such organic matter.
>>
>>>>> So, the sooner we use up our solid, liquid and gaseous forms of
>>>>> hydrocarbons, plus vent off or otherwise leak the vast bulk of our
>>>>> disposable methane and helium, the better for mother nature and her
>>>>> remaining biodiversity.
>>
>>>>> Once the majority of humans are either badly suffering or starving to
>>>>> death, and hydrocarbons become a thing of the past for the vast
>>>>> majority of us, along with the scant remainders of hoarded helium plus
>>>>> many other elements being one of the most spendy on earth per kg,
>>>>> whereas nature can rebound and off-world enterprises of mostly private
>>>>> Oligarch/Rothschilds can begin taunting us with their tremendous
>>>>> wealth and authority over anyone we might care to elect or appoint.
>>>>> So, it�s no wonder they�re not helping out any private efforts to do
>>>>> previous hydrocarbon consumption and our helium loss era should be
>>>>> practically cleared up, and once again our atmosphere including its
>>>>> nifty ozone layer should eventually become a whole lot cleaner and
>>>>> doing a fine job of better protecting us.
>>
>>>>> Instead of human cremation that takes a considerable amount of energy
>>>>> and causes pollution, there will be only liquefaction methods used,
>>>>> and the end product re-utilized in various constructive ways of
>>>>> recycling such organic matter.
>>
>>>>> So, the sooner we use up our solid, liquid and gaseous forms of
>>>>> hydrocarbons, plus vent off or otherwise leak the vast bulk of our
>>>>> disposable methane and helium, the better for mother nature and her
>>>>> remaining biodiversity.
>>
>>>>> Once the majority of humans are either badly suffering or starving to
>>>>> death, and hydrocarbons become a thing of the past for the vast
>>>>> majority of us, along with the scant remainders of hoarded helium plus
>>>>> many other elements being one of the most spendy on earth per kg,
>>>>> whereas nature can rebound and off-world enterprises of mostly private
>>>>> Oligarch/Rothschilds can begin taunting us with their tremendous
>>>>> wealth and authority over anyone we might care to elect or appoint.
>>>>> anything too sudden or spontaneously towards accomplishing off-world
>>>>> exploitations that might actually benefit the rest of us while
>>>>> terrestrial resources haven�t yet been artificially inflated to their
>>>>> exploitations that might actually benefit the rest of us while
>>>>> maximum potential.
>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>>>>> http://translate.google.com/#
>>>>> Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/Guth Venus
>
>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>>>>> http://translate.google.com/#
>>>>> Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/Guth Venus
>
Brad Guth
Jul 16, 2012, 9:41:08 AM7/16/12
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Going off-world for us will likely never encounter another star system
with planets, planetoids and moons, that is unless they’re coming to
us via stellar motion interactions.
Including red dwarfs that could easily represent 80% of all stars, our
stellar accounting for the Milky Way galaxy becomes roughly worth at
the very least a trillion stars, and if there's another hundred
thousand wandering/nomad planets per star and no doubt at least
another million planetoids and asteroids per star as having been set
free to move about the galaxy, whereas the ISM of open space is
actually getting very crowded out there, as well as easily capable of
doubling the previously known mass of our galaxy. Functioning red
dwarf solar systems of a third or fourth the mass of our sun, as well
as a few binary red dwarfs are also the most likely hosts of many
extra planets that could be Goldilocks inhabited.
Such nomad or rogue planets need not be devoid of life, because of the
core energy plus tidal interactions of large moons of via binary
planets set free to roam the galaxy could easily sustain complex and
even intelligent other life that obviously learned how to deal with a
great amount of snow and ice.
Unfortunately, we can't seem to pillage and plunder the vast resources
of our very own nearby, physically dark and paramagnetic moon, not to
mention the extremely nearby planet Venus that has lots of nifty
elements to offer.
Unfortunately, it seems the mainstream status-quo doesn't like
outsiders even reading about or much less giving others any credit for
their research, and my being topic/author stalked by one or more of
at whatever any given point-source of stellar illumination or that of
any minor reflected itsy bitsy speck of an albedo has to offer,
whereas "Guth Venus" gets seriously nearby and looking big as hell,
offering us a terrific image of actual physical terrain and multiple
variations of complex patterns of that physically hot surface
environment to look at and interpret, that simply can't be so easily
explained away as any perfectly natural formed geology that we know
of. So, either those natural laws of geology and the subsequent
physics of its surface formations and the subsequent erosions have
been functioning differently on Venus, or perhaps we’re looking at an
unusually complex surface of what seems as though having been
artificially modified to suit.
Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon. Go figure
how those continually opposed to anything that isn't insider Oligarch
approved, are also required and/or compelled to topic/author stalk and
bash at this one and at anything else I might have to offer, for all
the Semitic approved hate and disparagement they can muster.
“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow/5629579402364691314
Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
http://groups.google.com/groups/search
http://translate.google.com/#
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> https://www.google.com/search?q=geode+rocks&num=100&hl=en&client=fire...
with planets, planetoids and moons, that is unless they’re coming to
us via stellar motion interactions.
Including red dwarfs that could easily represent 80% of all stars, our
stellar accounting for the Milky Way galaxy becomes roughly worth at
the very least a trillion stars, and if there's another hundred
thousand wandering/nomad planets per star and no doubt at least
another million planetoids and asteroids per star as having been set
free to move about the galaxy, whereas the ISM of open space is
actually getting very crowded out there, as well as easily capable of
doubling the previously known mass of our galaxy. Functioning red
dwarf solar systems of a third or fourth the mass of our sun, as well
as a few binary red dwarfs are also the most likely hosts of many
extra planets that could be Goldilocks inhabited.
Such nomad or rogue planets need not be devoid of life, because of the
core energy plus tidal interactions of large moons of via binary
planets set free to roam the galaxy could easily sustain complex and
even intelligent other life that obviously learned how to deal with a
great amount of snow and ice.
Unfortunately, we can't seem to pillage and plunder the vast resources
mention the extremely nearby planet Venus that has lots of nifty
elements to offer.
Unfortunately, it seems the mainstream status-quo doesn't like
outsiders even reading about or much less giving others any credit for
their research, and my being topic/author stalked by one or more of
their own kind and seeing no policing whatsoever, is a very clear sign
of worse things to come.
Unlike astronomy and astrophysics that has to apply an educated guess
of worse things to come.
at whatever any given point-source of stellar illumination or that of
any minor reflected itsy bitsy speck of an albedo has to offer,
whereas "Guth Venus" gets seriously nearby and looking big as hell,
offering us a terrific image of actual physical terrain and multiple
variations of complex patterns of that physically hot surface
environment to look at and interpret, that simply can't be so easily
explained away as any perfectly natural formed geology that we know
of. So, either those natural laws of geology and the subsequent
physics of its surface formations and the subsequent erosions have
been functioning differently on Venus, or perhaps we’re looking at an
unusually complex surface of what seems as though having been
artificially modified to suit.
Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon. Go figure
how those continually opposed to anything that isn't insider Oligarch
approved, are also required and/or compelled to topic/author stalk and
the Semitic approved hate and disparagement they can muster.
“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
http://groups.google.com/groups/search
http://translate.google.com/#
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Alan Erskine
Jul 16, 2012, 11:36:21 AM7/16/12
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On 16/07/2012 11:41 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Going off-world for us will likely never encounter another star system
> with planets, planetoids and moons, that is unless they�re coming to
> Going off-world for us will likely never encounter another star system
> us via stellar motion interactions.
You are insane.
Brad Guth
Jul 16, 2012, 12:09:37 PM7/16/12
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And the usual topic/author stalking is applied by those I've put at
risk.
risk.
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HVAC
Jul 16, 2012, 12:32:52 PM7/16/12
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On 7/16/2012 12:13 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
> putting the Guthball at risk. That seems the only explanation for why
> he keeps saying this sort of thing TO HIMSELF....
> <snip Guthball fuckwittery>
I really enjoy the way Alan debates with Goth.
> Brad Guth<brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> And the usual topic/author stalking is applied by those I've put at
>> risk.
>>
>
> And apparently The Guthball is the one stalking The Guthball, who is
>
>> And the usual topic/author stalking is applied by those I've put at
>> risk.
>>
>
> putting the Guthball at risk. That seems the only explanation for why
> he keeps saying this sort of thing TO HIMSELF....
> <snip Guthball fuckwittery>
I really enjoy the way Alan debates with Goth.
Alan Erskine
Jul 16, 2012, 7:27:50 PM7/16/12
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On 17/07/2012 2:09 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> And the usual topic/author stalking is applied by those I've put at
> risk.
You are insane.
> And the usual topic/author stalking is applied by those I've put at
> risk.
Brad Guth
Jul 17, 2012, 12:34:10 AM7/17/12
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And the usual topic/author stalking is applied by those I've put at
risk for 11+ yuears. It's kind of amazing how little old me has them
dancing on command. K12s should notice this and other authors that
get the same treatment by those we don't elect or appoint to moderate
squat. You see, our government and especially of those running it,
has a lot of nondisclosure, obfuscation and denial to hide from the
rest of us.
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Alan Erskine
Jul 17, 2012, 8:26:37 AM7/17/12
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On 17/07/2012 2:34 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> And the usual topic/author stalking is applied by those I've put at
> risk for 11+ yuears. It's kind of amazing how little old me has them
> dancing on command. K12s should notice this and other authors that
> get the same treatment by those we don't elect or appoint to moderate
> squat. You see, our government and especially of those running it,
> has a lot of nondisclosure, obfuscation and denial to hide from the
> rest of us.
You are insane.
> And the usual topic/author stalking is applied by those I've put at
> risk for 11+ yuears. It's kind of amazing how little old me has them
> dancing on command. K12s should notice this and other authors that
> get the same treatment by those we don't elect or appoint to moderate
> squat. You see, our government and especially of those running it,
> has a lot of nondisclosure, obfuscation and denial to hide from the
> rest of us.
HVAC
Jul 17, 2012, 8:35:46 AM7/17/12
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On 7/17/2012 12:34 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> And the usual topic/author stalking is applied by those I've put at
> risk for 11+ yuears. It's kind of amazing how little old me has them
> dancing on command. K12s should notice this and other authors that
> get the same treatment by those we don't elect or appoint to moderate
> squat.
Careful Goth. I was made Moderator of this group years before YOU signed
> And the usual topic/author stalking is applied by those I've put at
> risk for 11+ yuears. It's kind of amazing how little old me has them
> dancing on command. K12s should notice this and other authors that
> get the same treatment by those we don't elect or appoint to moderate
> squat.
on. Rule #1 is never fuck with my authority.
H.V.A.C.
Moderator
alt.astronomy
You see, our government and especially of those running it,
> has a lot of nondisclosure, obfuscation and denial to hide from the
> rest of us.
>
> On Jul 16, 6:41 am, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Going off-world for us will likely never encounter another star system
>> unusually complex surface of what seems as though having been
>> artificially modified to suit.
>>
>> Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
>> Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon. Go figure
>> how those continually opposed to anything that isn't insider Oligarch
>> approved, are also required and/or compelled to topic/author stalk and
>> bash at this one and at anything else I might have to offer, for all
>> the Semitic approved hate and disparagement they can muster.
>>
>> �Guth Venus� 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
>> artificially modified to suit.
>>
>> Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
>> Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon. Go figure
>> how those continually opposed to anything that isn't insider Oligarch
>> approved, are also required and/or compelled to topic/author stalk and
>> bash at this one and at anything else I might have to offer, for all
>> the Semitic approved hate and disparagement they can muster.
>>
>> question:https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow...
>>
>> Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
>> Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>> http://translate.google.com/#
>> Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/�Guth Venus�
>>
>> Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
>> Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>> http://translate.google.com/#
>>
>> On Jul 14, 12:25 pm, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:> Items arriving by way of the Sirius Oort cloud could be a real kicker
>>> and/or wakeup call for us, especially when they�ll be of the 1+ km
>> On Jul 14, 12:25 pm, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:> Items arriving by way of the Sirius Oort cloud could be a real kicker
>>> diameter class of icy asteroids that could impose a serious threat to
>>> our limited resources and often unprepared ways of surviving.
>>
>>> Actually, the lower density and somewhat physically softer and/or
>>> porous interior of our moon should be even wetter than anything Mars
>>> has to offer, as partially because of our moon having formed its
>>> rather thick and fully fused basalt crust that�s also highly
>>> our limited resources and often unprepared ways of surviving.
>>
>>> Actually, the lower density and somewhat physically softer and/or
>>> porous interior of our moon should be even wetter than anything Mars
>>> has to offer, as partially because of our moon having formed its
>>> paramagnetic and doesn't even manage to leak all that much of its
>>> fission produced (radiation decay produced) helium. At least that has
>>> to be the best outcome case if you must buy into the moon formed out
>>> of Earth and large impactor theory.
>>
>>> When something made extensively from Earth is also extremely molten
>>> hot and suddenly placed into a cold and hard vacuum, it tends to
>>> quickly form its outer crust while the mostly fluid rock and metal
>>> interior continues to simmer, vaporize and/or boil off numerous gasses
>>> (including H2O) that can't so easily escape to space, and thus capable
>>> of forming geode pockets and porous layers of considerable volume.
>>
>>> At the very least 0.1% of our moon (2.2e16 m3) could be entirely vapor
>>> and/or packed with various brines and even hydrocarbons that could be
>>> easily taped and utilized to suit. I certainly wouldn�t be all that
>>> fission produced (radiation decay produced) helium. At least that has
>>> to be the best outcome case if you must buy into the moon formed out
>>> of Earth and large impactor theory.
>>
>>> When something made extensively from Earth is also extremely molten
>>> hot and suddenly placed into a cold and hard vacuum, it tends to
>>> quickly form its outer crust while the mostly fluid rock and metal
>>> interior continues to simmer, vaporize and/or boil off numerous gasses
>>> (including H2O) that can't so easily escape to space, and thus capable
>>> of forming geode pockets and porous layers of considerable volume.
>>
>>> At the very least 0.1% of our moon (2.2e16 m3) could be entirely vapor
>>> and/or packed with various brines and even hydrocarbons that could be
>>> surprised to see 1% (2.2e17 m3) as hollow or porous, because a lot of
>>> common geode rocks offer more than a 10% of their volume that�s devoid
>>> of solids.
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=geode+rock
>>
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=geode+rocks&num=100&hl=en&client=fire...
>>
>>> Even planet Earth has enormous geode pockets or caverness voids.
>>> However, our planet isn�t exactly hollow, except in numerous places
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=geode+rock
>>
>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=geode+rocks&num=100&hl=en&client=fire...
>>
>>> Even planet Earth has enormous geode pockets or caverness voids.
>>> where crystals have grown and the underground environment was capable
>>> of converting minerals which grew into crystals and otherwise out-
>>> gassed and/or once having displaced enough volume in order to help
>>> form those enormous underground caverns. There's certainly no obvious
>>> reason(s) to think our moon is any more or less inert nor as having
>>> less vapor generating capable geology than Earth. In fact, with less
>>> core gravity could mean the growth of such crystals and geology
>>> outgassing (including 4He and Rn222) could actually be considerably
>>> greater portion than here on Earth. As a stupendous planetoid like
>>> our moon cools, and its fused paramagnetic basalt crust represents an
>>> extremely tough and impervious shell, plus its total spherical volume
>>> shrinks and keeps building those gas pressures inside, should more
>>> than keep sustaining those interior voids and/or preventing liquids
>>> from escaping.
>>
>>> That terrific moon of ours with its offset core offering a near zero
>>> gravity interior is also going to be geode pocket friendly, along with
>>> porous layers or simply low density filler as situated below that
>>> extremely tough and paramagnetic basalt crust. On the other hand,
>>> Venus is still puking its valuable guts out, so nothing underground
>>> would likely be worth the added risk of our having to go after.
>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>>> http://translate.google.com/#
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>>> of converting minerals which grew into crystals and otherwise out-
>>> gassed and/or once having displaced enough volume in order to help
>>> form those enormous underground caverns. There's certainly no obvious
>>> reason(s) to think our moon is any more or less inert nor as having
>>> less vapor generating capable geology than Earth. In fact, with less
>>> core gravity could mean the growth of such crystals and geology
>>> outgassing (including 4He and Rn222) could actually be considerably
>>> greater portion than here on Earth. As a stupendous planetoid like
>>> our moon cools, and its fused paramagnetic basalt crust represents an
>>> extremely tough and impervious shell, plus its total spherical volume
>>> shrinks and keeps building those gas pressures inside, should more
>>> than keep sustaining those interior voids and/or preventing liquids
>>> from escaping.
>>
>>> That terrific moon of ours with its offset core offering a near zero
>>> gravity interior is also going to be geode pocket friendly, along with
>>> porous layers or simply low density filler as situated below that
>>> extremely tough and paramagnetic basalt crust. On the other hand,
>>> Venus is still puking its valuable guts out, so nothing underground
>>> would likely be worth the added risk of our having to go after.
>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>>> http://translate.google.com/#
>>
>>> On Jul 11, 4:45 am, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:> Apparently my previously posted estimate or swag of 1e15 wandering/
>>>> rogue or nomad planets within our galaxy of toughly a trillion stars
>>>> (including red dwarfs being the vast majority) is not far off the
>>>> latest research mark, because others having come to the same
>>>> conclusion have gotten their version of this planet inventory surplus
>>>> as recently published in Astronomy. It seems that stars and their
>>>> initial companions of planets or failed stars (aka gas giants) have
>>>> been tossed out and thus set free by gravitational interactions, not
>>>> to mention when the parent star defaults as a WD or NS upon its final
>>>> demise after being a red giant and having depleted through its helium
>>>> flashover phase. Of course this kind of scientific update doesn�t
>>> On Jul 11, 4:45 am, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:> Apparently my previously posted estimate or swag of 1e15 wandering/
>>>> rogue or nomad planets within our galaxy of toughly a trillion stars
>>>> (including red dwarfs being the vast majority) is not far off the
>>>> latest research mark, because others having come to the same
>>>> conclusion have gotten their version of this planet inventory surplus
>>>> as recently published in Astronomy. It seems that stars and their
>>>> initial companions of planets or failed stars (aka gas giants) have
>>>> been tossed out and thus set free by gravitational interactions, not
>>>> to mention when the parent star defaults as a WD or NS upon its final
>>>> demise after being a red giant and having depleted through its helium
>>>> exactly help us out unless our solar system encounters and captures
>>>> another planet, because we still can�t seem to get ourselves safely to/
>>>> from our moon, much less an extremely nearby planet like Venus that
>>>> has so much of most everything to offer.
>>
>>>> Going off-world is not only about our obtaining precious gems and
>>>> valuable metals, because there�s also a growing shortage of helium and
>>>> has so much of most everything to offer.
>>
>>>> Going off-world is not only about our obtaining precious gems and
>>>> otherwise foods that�ll need some genetic and logistical help at their
>>>> cultivation, harvesting, processing and distribution that demands a
>>>> great deal of energy that�ll have to become a whole lot less
>>>> environment impacting than corn and a few other crops that we keep
>>>> taking for granted, and especially of those food sources and products
>>>> that are so fresh water intensive that�ll also have to get replaced
>>>> taking for granted, and especially of those food sources and products
>>>> unless vast reservoirs of fresh water and/or affordable clean energy
>>>> reserves can be established most everywhere on Earth..
>>
>>>> According to one somewhat recent review of just the ongoing impact of
>>>> our corn that�s heavily subsidized and utilized in most everything we
>>>> reserves can be established most everywhere on Earth..
>>
>>>> According to one somewhat recent review of just the ongoing impact of
>>>> eat and burn, whereas annually (as of 2010) this corn has been
>>>> demanding nine million tonnes worth of fertilizers (mostly
>>>> artificially produced and not to mentions the toxics used for pest and
>>>> weed control) and otherwise it�s a crop that�s directly contributing
>>>> demanding nine million tonnes worth of fertilizers (mostly
>>>> artificially produced and not to mentions the toxics used for pest and
>>>> 42 million tonnes of CO2 per year, and that�s not even including the
>>>> all-inclusive infrastructure of transporting, storage and commercial
>>>> processing nor the biodiversity digestion of all those calories and
>>>> their subsequent excess of CO2 and CH4 that�s given off before our
>>>> processing nor the biodiversity digestion of all those calories and
>>>> human and animal waste is further processed and disposed of. This
>>>> research manifesto of our future needs for food and energy as having
>>>> been recently publish in the 2012 July issue of Popular Science on
>>>> behalf of Kalee Thompson and Maggie Koerth-Baker, isn�t all that
>>>> research manifesto of our future needs for food and energy as having
>>>> been recently publish in the 2012 July issue of Popular Science on
>>>> unusual nor is it just another doom and gloom without offering
>>>> multiple solutions for improved living and resource efficiencies that
>>>> we can actually do something about.
>>
>>>> Implementing a few of my 100 km spires and otherwise �flat towers� can
>>>> multiple solutions for improved living and resource efficiencies that
>>>> we can actually do something about.
>>
>>>> accommodate most of us with terrestrial capacity and efficiency to
>>>> accommodate billions more. Advanced thinking architects like Paul-
>>>> Eric Schirr-Bonnans offer terrestrial solutions that can also
>>>> translate into off-world accommodations (above and below ground)
>>>> wherever the raw surface environments are marginal or less than human
>>>> friendly.
>>
>>>> Therefore, going off-world isn�t a notion limited as to another gold-
>>>> accommodate billions more. Advanced thinking architects like Paul-
>>>> Eric Schirr-Bonnans offer terrestrial solutions that can also
>>>> translate into off-world accommodations (above and below ground)
>>>> wherever the raw surface environments are marginal or less than human
>>>> friendly.
>>
>>>> rush era for obtaining one specific rare element or valuable mineral
>>>> compound. However, if we should fail at even developing the interior
>>>> of our moon, not to mention our ignoring what the extremely nearby
>>>> planet Venus has to offer, and at the same time continue to ignore
>>>> whatever improvements could and should have been done to Earth, then
>>>> it�s just a matter of a foreseeable time before the existing
>>>> compound. However, if we should fail at even developing the interior
>>>> of our moon, not to mention our ignoring what the extremely nearby
>>>> planet Venus has to offer, and at the same time continue to ignore
>>>> whatever improvements could and should have been done to Earth, then
>>>> terrestrial resources are too few and otherwise too spendy for most of
>>>> us to deal with, and all that�s left is greed, hoarding, crime and
>>>> wars upon wars so that the upper .1% caste can continue to live large
>>>> at the expense and demise of the lower 99.9% caste.
>>
>>>> Taking another deductive look-see at Venus can�t be all that difficult
>>>> at the expense and demise of the lower 99.9% caste.
>>
>>>> nor upsetting, unless you�re one of our typical FUD-masters as a brown-
>>>> nosed clown that�s working every angle for benefiting the upper caste
>>>> that could obviously care less what happens to the rest of us.
>>
>>>> �Guth Venus� 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
>>
>>>> question:https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow...
>>
>>>> Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
>>>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
>>>> Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
>>>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
>>>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
>>
>>>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>>>> http://translate.google.com/#
>>>> Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/�Guth Venus�
>>
>>>> Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
>>>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
>>>> Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
>>>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
>>>> http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
>>
>>>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>>>> http://translate.google.com/#
>>
>>>> On Jul 5, 9:18 pm, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Off-world resources of any kind can be continually ignored, or even
>>>>> intentionally foiled by those with terrestrial resources yet to
>>>>> pillage and profit from.
>>
>>>>> �Fossil Fuels: A Legacy of Disaster�
>>>> On Jul 5, 9:18 pm, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Off-world resources of any kind can be continually ignored, or even
>>>>> intentionally foiled by those with terrestrial resources yet to
>>>>> pillage and profit from.
>>
>>>>> http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/04/fossil_fuel_legacy.html
>>
>>>>> Of course under-reporting of death and injuries has always been an
>>>>> industry-wide tactical form of PR damage-control (aka need to know),
>>>>> and those long-term affects of Big Energy traumatizing and/or reducing
>>>>> the quality of life for those that can least afford to deal with
>>>>> modifying their environment by moving further away from anything
>>>>> that�s truly nasty, as such are typically swept under the nearest rug,
>>
>>>>> Of course under-reporting of death and injuries has always been an
>>>>> industry-wide tactical form of PR damage-control (aka need to know),
>>>>> and those long-term affects of Big Energy traumatizing and/or reducing
>>>>> the quality of life for those that can least afford to deal with
>>>>> modifying their environment by moving further away from anything
>>>>> or using FUD in order to falsely put the blame upon others, and just
>>>>> like their all-inclusive environmental consequences which are mostly
>>>>> negative, getting passed along to the next unsuspecting and typically
>>>>> dumbfounded K12 generation is Oligarch/Rothschild policy status quo.
>>
>>>>> Besides all the negative impact to our atmosphere and it�s protective
>>>>> like their all-inclusive environmental consequences which are mostly
>>>>> negative, getting passed along to the next unsuspecting and typically
>>>>> dumbfounded K12 generation is Oligarch/Rothschild policy status quo.
>>
>>>>> ozone layer, badly contaminated groundwater from defective wells and
>>>>> especially via fracking is typically ignored or at best only white-
>>>>> washed via denial and obfuscation, as well as having been typically
>>>>> accusing whatever local citizens of perpetual whining or being liars
>>>>> and extortionists when they complain about their health or their water
>>>>> becoming too nasty to drink, cook with or even bath in.
>>
>>>>> Of course many other nations on Earth have been much further exploited
>>>>> and thoroughly corrupted than ours, so we can safely figure that one
>>>>> as representing a perfectly valid death, injury and environmental
>>>>> trauma magnifier or multiplier, that again is way underreported and
>>>>> remains unlike Oligarchs and Rothschilds that never seem to complain
>>>>> about anything that�s toxic or spendy, whereas few if any Muslims had
>>>>> especially via fracking is typically ignored or at best only white-
>>>>> washed via denial and obfuscation, as well as having been typically
>>>>> accusing whatever local citizens of perpetual whining or being liars
>>>>> and extortionists when they complain about their health or their water
>>>>> becoming too nasty to drink, cook with or even bath in.
>>
>>>>> Of course many other nations on Earth have been much further exploited
>>>>> and thoroughly corrupted than ours, so we can safely figure that one
>>>>> as representing a perfectly valid death, injury and environmental
>>>>> trauma magnifier or multiplier, that again is way underreported and
>>>>> remains unlike Oligarchs and Rothschilds that never seem to complain
>>>>> been involved with such ongoing deceptions (so perhaps it�s still all
>>>>> their fault for not having been participating in the hydrocarbon
>>>>> exploitation and of its mass consumption like all the rest of us).
>>
>>>>> The really good news, is by the time 2150 or even 2122 roles around
>>>>> and we�ve survived WW3 and WW4 of perpetual nation-building that
>>>>> exploitation and of its mass consumption like all the rest of us).
>>
>>>>> The really good news, is by the time 2150 or even 2122 roles around
>>>>> seldom goes according to plan, there really shouldn�t be hardly any
>>>>> 4He(helium) nor all that much CH4/methane to go around, as well as
>>>>> other hydrocarbons as having become so scarce and/or spendy that their
>>>>> consumption should drastically fall off to something less than 10% of
>>>>> currently taking place (considering the global population of 9
>>>>> billion, this well have become a truly monumental accomplishment). By
>>>>> the year 2222 and if we�re still lucky with having only 12 billion of
>>>>> other hydrocarbons as having become so scarce and/or spendy that their
>>>>> consumption should drastically fall off to something less than 10% of
>>>>> currently taking place (considering the global population of 9
>>>>> billion, this well have become a truly monumental accomplishment). By
>>>>> us, whereas most all of our environmental trauma caused by the
>>>>> previous hydrocarbon consumption and our helium loss era should be
>>>>> practically cleared up, and once again our atmosphere including its
>>>>> nifty ozone layer should eventually become a whole lot cleaner and
>>>>> doing a fine job of better protecting us.
>>
>>>>> Instead of human cremation that takes a considerable amount of energy
>>>>> and causes pollution, there will be only liquefaction methods used,
>>>>> and the end product re-utilized in various constructive ways of
>>>>> recycling such organic matter.
>>
>>>>> So, the sooner we use up our solid, liquid and gaseous forms of
>>>>> hydrocarbons, plus vent off or otherwise leak the vast bulk of our
>>>>> disposable methane and helium, the better for mother nature and her
>>>>> remaining biodiversity.
>>
>>>>> Once the majority of humans are either badly suffering or starving to
>>>>> death, and hydrocarbons become a thing of the past for the vast
>>>>> majority of us, along with the scant remainders of hoarded helium plus
>>>>> many other elements being one of the most spendy on earth per kg,
>>>>> whereas nature can rebound and off-world enterprises of mostly private
>>>>> Oligarch/Rothschilds can begin taunting us with their tremendous
>>>>> wealth and authority over anyone we might care to elect or appoint.
>>>>> So, it�s no wonder they�re not helping out any private efforts to do
>>>>> previous hydrocarbon consumption and our helium loss era should be
>>>>> practically cleared up, and once again our atmosphere including its
>>>>> nifty ozone layer should eventually become a whole lot cleaner and
>>>>> doing a fine job of better protecting us.
>>
>>>>> Instead of human cremation that takes a considerable amount of energy
>>>>> and causes pollution, there will be only liquefaction methods used,
>>>>> and the end product re-utilized in various constructive ways of
>>>>> recycling such organic matter.
>>
>>>>> So, the sooner we use up our solid, liquid and gaseous forms of
>>>>> hydrocarbons, plus vent off or otherwise leak the vast bulk of our
>>>>> disposable methane and helium, the better for mother nature and her
>>>>> remaining biodiversity.
>>
>>>>> Once the majority of humans are either badly suffering or starving to
>>>>> death, and hydrocarbons become a thing of the past for the vast
>>>>> majority of us, along with the scant remainders of hoarded helium plus
>>>>> many other elements being one of the most spendy on earth per kg,
>>>>> whereas nature can rebound and off-world enterprises of mostly private
>>>>> Oligarch/Rothschilds can begin taunting us with their tremendous
>>>>> wealth and authority over anyone we might care to elect or appoint.
>>>>> anything too sudden or spontaneously towards accomplishing off-world
>>>>> exploitations that might actually benefit the rest of us while
>>>>> terrestrial resources haven�t yet been artificially inflated to their
>>>>> exploitations that might actually benefit the rest of us while
>>>>> maximum potential.
>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>>>>> http://translate.google.com/#
>>>>> Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/Guth Venus
>
>>
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>>>>> http://translate.google.com/#
>>>>> Brad Guth, Brad_Guth, Brad.Guth, BradGuth, BG, Guth Usenet/Guth Venus
>
Brad Guth
Jul 17, 2012, 9:24:12 AM7/17/12
to
Apparently going off-world is not an option, at least not here in
Usenet/newsgroups.
Notice how relentless the topic/author stalking gets whenever we
outsiders start rocking a few of those mainstream boats. Apparently
what I have to say is very damaging to their insider cabal that
normally get to do as they please.
Hitler would have absolutely loved this internet, with all of its
public Usenet/newsgroups and private blogs, so that his Third Reich of
untraceable FUD-masters and topic/author stalking thugs could
systematically intercept and terminate all those that he didn’t happen
to like, because we outsiders as independent investigators could be
quite easily identified, rounded up and put into his work camps or
simply shot without remorse or any fear of ever being policed by so
many others of their own Semitic actiing kind.
Going by the level of systematic topic/author stalking plus their
openly posted hatred and total disregard of outsiders even reading the
mostly public funded science of others, much less interpreting and
contributing their truly independent feedback of anything other than
amazement and awe as to whatever our resident ZNR FUD-masters have to
say, are the exact same Skull and Bones cult of overlord individuals
that see absolutely nothing wrong with using lethal force in order to
hold their ground, even if they knowingly having provoked the
situation to begin with and don’t even happen to own or have any
authority as to the ground they are standing upon. It’s exactly like
pre WW2 and otherwise like Nazi Germany all over again, except these
folks as mainstream insiders and Oligarchs that have been mostly
public funded, seem to think they’re always entitled to provoke others
outside of their personal property, as well as keeping themselves one
step or notch above any God (which of course they usually claim being
Atheists and not believing in Hell, and/or acting exactly like devout
Semites) is supposedly not a contradiction or any form of their own
cabal of superior ethnicity or bigotry used against others.
Of course those running our government, and/or telling it whatever it
can or can not do, have nothing whatsoever to do with those we elect
or appoint. JFK made a lethal mistake of having attempted to correct
some of that, and it got him dead, which again our resident rednecks
had no problems with any of his demise, because at the time they could
blame everything bad on the USSR, instead of the Muslims they blame
everything on nowadays.
> question:https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow...
Usenet/newsgroups.
Notice how relentless the topic/author stalking gets whenever we
outsiders start rocking a few of those mainstream boats. Apparently
what I have to say is very damaging to their insider cabal that
normally get to do as they please.
Hitler would have absolutely loved this internet, with all of its
public Usenet/newsgroups and private blogs, so that his Third Reich of
untraceable FUD-masters and topic/author stalking thugs could
systematically intercept and terminate all those that he didn’t happen
to like, because we outsiders as independent investigators could be
quite easily identified, rounded up and put into his work camps or
simply shot without remorse or any fear of ever being policed by so
many others of their own Semitic actiing kind.
Going by the level of systematic topic/author stalking plus their
openly posted hatred and total disregard of outsiders even reading the
mostly public funded science of others, much less interpreting and
contributing their truly independent feedback of anything other than
amazement and awe as to whatever our resident ZNR FUD-masters have to
say, are the exact same Skull and Bones cult of overlord individuals
that see absolutely nothing wrong with using lethal force in order to
hold their ground, even if they knowingly having provoked the
situation to begin with and don’t even happen to own or have any
authority as to the ground they are standing upon. It’s exactly like
pre WW2 and otherwise like Nazi Germany all over again, except these
folks as mainstream insiders and Oligarchs that have been mostly
public funded, seem to think they’re always entitled to provoke others
outside of their personal property, as well as keeping themselves one
step or notch above any God (which of course they usually claim being
Atheists and not believing in Hell, and/or acting exactly like devout
Semites) is supposedly not a contradiction or any form of their own
cabal of superior ethnicity or bigotry used against others.
Of course those running our government, and/or telling it whatever it
can or can not do, have nothing whatsoever to do with those we elect
or appoint. JFK made a lethal mistake of having attempted to correct
some of that, and it got him dead, which again our resident rednecks
had no problems with any of his demise, because at the time they could
blame everything bad on the USSR, instead of the Muslims they blame
everything on nowadays.
Alan Erskine
Jul 17, 2012, 11:58:23 AM7/17/12
to
On 17/07/2012 11:24 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Going by the level of systematic topic/author stalking plus their
> openly posted hatred and total disregard of outsiders even reading the
> mostly public funded science of others, much less interpreting and
> contributing their truly independent feedback of anything other than
> amazement and awe as to whatever our resident ZNR FUD-masters have to
> say, are the exact same Skull and Bones cult of overlord individuals
> that see absolutely nothing wrong with using lethal force in order to
> hold their ground, even if they knowingly having provoked the
> situation to begin with and don�t even happen to own or have any
> Going by the level of systematic topic/author stalking plus their
> openly posted hatred and total disregard of outsiders even reading the
> mostly public funded science of others, much less interpreting and
> contributing their truly independent feedback of anything other than
> amazement and awe as to whatever our resident ZNR FUD-masters have to
> say, are the exact same Skull and Bones cult of overlord individuals
> that see absolutely nothing wrong with using lethal force in order to
> hold their ground, even if they knowingly having provoked the
> authority as to the ground they are standing upon. It�s exactly like
> pre WW2 and otherwise like Nazi Germany all over again, except these
> folks as mainstream insiders and Oligarchs that have been mostly
> public funded, seem to think they�re always entitled to provoke others
> folks as mainstream insiders and Oligarchs that have been mostly
> outside of their personal property, as well as keeping themselves one
> step or notch above any God (which of course they usually claim being
> Atheists and not believing in Hell, and/or acting exactly like devout
> Semites) is supposedly not a contradiction or any form of their own
> cabal of superior ethnicity or bigotry used against others.
You are insane.
> step or notch above any God (which of course they usually claim being
> Atheists and not believing in Hell, and/or acting exactly like devout
> Semites) is supposedly not a contradiction or any form of their own
> cabal of superior ethnicity or bigotry used against others.
Alan Erskine
Jul 18, 2012, 6:53:24 AM7/18/12
to
On 17/07/2012 2:32 AM, HVAC wrote:
> On 7/16/2012 12:13 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> Brad Guth<brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> And the usual topic/author stalking is applied by those I've put at
>>> risk.
>>>
>>
>> And apparently The Guthball is the one stalking The Guthball, who is
>> putting the Guthball at risk. That seems the only explanation for why
>> he keeps saying this sort of thing TO HIMSELF....
>>
>>> On Jul 16, 6:41 am, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snip Guthball fuckwittery>
>
>
> I really enjoy the way Alan debates with Goth.
Debating with an insane person like Brad Guth is another form of
> On 7/16/2012 12:13 PM, Fred J. McCall wrote:
>> Brad Guth<brad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> And the usual topic/author stalking is applied by those I've put at
>>> risk.
>>>
>>
>> And apparently The Guthball is the one stalking The Guthball, who is
>> putting the Guthball at risk. That seems the only explanation for why
>> he keeps saying this sort of thing TO HIMSELF....
>>
>>> On Jul 16, 6:41 am, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snip Guthball fuckwittery>
>
>
> I really enjoy the way Alan debates with Goth.
insanity. I think, therefore, you must mean Fred J McCall and not me.
I am merely pointing out the obvious with the hope that Guth will come
to realise it.
HVAC
Jul 18, 2012, 7:06:27 AM7/18/12
to
On 7/18/2012 6:53 AM, Alan Erskine wrote:
>
>> I really enjoy the way Alan debates with Goth.
>
> Debating with an insane person like Brad Guth is another form of
> insanity. I think, therefore, you must mean Fred J McCall and not me. I
> am merely pointing out the obvious with the hope that Guth will come to
> realise it.
No...I mean YOU. You always keep it short and sweet.
>
>> I really enjoy the way Alan debates with Goth.
>
> Debating with an insane person like Brad Guth is another form of
> insanity. I think, therefore, you must mean Fred J McCall and not me. I
> am merely pointing out the obvious with the hope that Guth will come to
> realise it.
Brad Guth
Jul 18, 2012, 10:05:43 AM7/18/12
to
Apparently going off-world is never going to become an option for us,
at least it’s not being allowed to flourish here in Usenet/newsgroups.
Notice how relentless the topic/author stalking gets whenever we
outsiders start rocking a few of those mainstream boats by offering
fresh and/or innovative interpretations of what some other moon or
planet could have to offer. Apparently what I have to say about our
moon, Venus and Sirius is extremely damaging to their insider cabal
that normally get to do as they damn well please, and public funded to
boot.
As with GW Bush and Dick Cheney, Hitler would have absolutely loved
Going by the level of systematic topic/author stalking plus their
openly posted hatred and total disregard of outsiders even reading the
mostly public funded science of others, much less independently
interpreting and contributing their truly deductive feedback of
over again, except these folks as mainstream insiders and the brown-
nosed minions of Oligarchs that have been mostly public funded, seem
to think they’re always entitled to provoke others while operating
outside of their own personal property, as well as keeping themselves
one step or notch above any God (which of course they usually claim as
whatsoever to do with those we elect or appoint. JFK made a truly
at least it’s not being allowed to flourish here in Usenet/newsgroups.
Notice how relentless the topic/author stalking gets whenever we
fresh and/or innovative interpretations of what some other moon or
planet could have to offer. Apparently what I have to say about our
moon, Venus and Sirius is extremely damaging to their insider cabal
that normally get to do as they damn well please, and public funded to
boot.
As with GW Bush and Dick Cheney, Hitler would have absolutely loved
this internet, with all of its public Usenet/newsgroups and private
blogs, so that his Third Reich of untraceable FUD-masters and topic/
author stalking thugs could systematically intercept and terminate all
those that he didn’t happen to like, because we outsiders as
independent investigators could be quite easily identified, rounded up
and put into his work camps or simply shot on sight without remorse or
blogs, so that his Third Reich of untraceable FUD-masters and topic/
author stalking thugs could systematically intercept and terminate all
those that he didn’t happen to like, because we outsiders as
independent investigators could be quite easily identified, rounded up
any fear of ever being policed by so many others of their own Semitic
acting kind.
Going by the level of systematic topic/author stalking plus their
openly posted hatred and total disregard of outsiders even reading the
interpreting and contributing their truly deductive feedback of
anything other than amazement and awe as to whatever our resident ZNR
FUD-masters have to say, are up against the exact same Skull and Bones
cult of overlord individuals that see absolutely nothing wrong with
using lethal force in order to hold their ground, even if they
knowingly having provoked the situation to begin with and don’t even
using lethal force in order to hold their ground, even if they
happen to own or have any authority as to the ground they are standing
upon. It’s exactly like pre WW2 and otherwise like Nazi Germany all
over again, except these folks as mainstream insiders and the brown-
nosed minions of Oligarchs that have been mostly public funded, seem
to think they’re always entitled to provoke others while operating
outside of their own personal property, as well as keeping themselves
one step or notch above any God (which of course they usually claim as
being Atheists and not believing in Hell, and/or acting exactly like
devout Semites) is supposedly not a contradiction or any form of their
own cabal of superior ethnicity or bigotry used against others.
devout Semites) is supposedly not a contradiction or any form of their
own cabal of superior ethnicity or bigotry used against others.
Of course those running our government, and/or telling it whatever it
can or can not do by way of financing most of everything, have nothing
whatsoever to do with those we elect or appoint. JFK made a truly
lethal mistake of having attempted to correct some of that, and it got
him dead, which again our resident rednecks had no problems with any
of his demise, because at the time they could blame everything bad on
the USSR, instead of the Muslims they can blame everything on
him dead, which again our resident rednecks had no problems with any
of his demise, because at the time they could blame everything bad on
Alan Erskine
Jul 18, 2012, 11:51:47 AM7/18/12
to
On 19/07/2012 12:05 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> As with GW Bush and Dick Cheney, Hitler would have absolutely loved
> this internet, with all of its public Usenet/newsgroups and private
> blogs, so that his Third Reich of untraceable FUD-masters and topic/
> author stalking thugs could systematically intercept and terminate all
> those that he didn�t happen to like, because we outsiders as
> As with GW Bush and Dick Cheney, Hitler would have absolutely loved
> this internet, with all of its public Usenet/newsgroups and private
> blogs, so that his Third Reich of untraceable FUD-masters and topic/
> author stalking thugs could systematically intercept and terminate all
> independent investigators could be quite easily identified, rounded up
> and put into his work camps or simply shot on sight without remorse or
> any fear of ever being policed by so many others of their own Semitic
> acting kind.
You are insane.
> and put into his work camps or simply shot on sight without remorse or
> any fear of ever being policed by so many others of their own Semitic
> acting kind.
nartrof seven
Jul 18, 2012, 4:32:56 PM7/18/12
to
On Jul 6, 11:40 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 6, 7:08 am, "Hägar" <hs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Brad Guth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:92adddcd-455f-414e...@nw7g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
> > So, let's see ... our Nigger in Chief cancels the Shuttle, the only means
> > the US had to reach a controlled orbit with a pyload and the manpower to
> > utilize it, the other Nigger, Holdren, wants to change the function of NASA
> > to a Muslim support group, and the third Niggerm Holder, wants us to become
> > the preferred provider of automatic weapons by the Mexican drug runners.
>
> > Yes there are untold riches orbiting twixt Mars and Jupiter, huge chunks of
> > pure iron, irridium, nickel and just about anything needed by the
> > manufacturing arm of any Nation. Unfortunately, that leaves the US out of
> > the game, since we are now a nation of service providers and coddling
> > welfare queens and a haven for butt humping poofters who want equal rights
> > for their shit-stained dicks.
>
> > Trust me ... when we finally undo all the damage the trio of black deadbeats
> > has done and do get to the Asteroid belt with our shopping bags, the Chinese
> > will not let us in and we will tuck our tails twixt our legs and go home and
> > pout. We'll be finished on the world scene, flat broke and will make Uganda
> > look like Utopia ... but all of our deadbeats will have healthcare, financed
> > by taxing the "wealthy", namely anyone who makes minimum wage, which will
> > leave you off the hook, GuthBall..
>
> You're negativity and lack of anything constructive is noted.
>
> Pick something, anything you like, and then promote it, if you dare.
> Promoting hate doesn't count unless it's applied against ZNR FUD-
> masters and the Oligarch Rothschilds that are protecting those of your
> kind.
On Jul 18, 10:05 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Apparently going off-world is never going to become an option for us,
> at least it’s not being allowed to flourish here in Usenet/newsgroups.
>
> Notice how relentless the topic/author stalking gets whenever we
> outsiders start rocking a few of those mainstream boats by offering
> fresh and/or innovative interpretations of what some other moon or
> planet could have to offer. Apparently what I have to say about our
> moon, Venus and Sirius is extremely damaging to their insider cabal
> that normally get to do as they damn well please, and public funded to
> boot.
>
Communism is one step below total control by fiat capital, which is
what a caste system consists of - those who think they are in control,
but are actually being controlled by the compartmentalization of their
attempt to maintain the system of fiat, for a population that far
outnumbers them! With an increase in electronic communication becoming
widespread, all the lies, criminality, evil, and scum at the top will
be found out, and the system will inevitably crash.
This is similar to what Jesus Christ described as the fig tree, upon
entering Jerusalem. The fig tree represents the unfruitful religious
system of all the Pharisees and Saducees, to which the Zionist State
of Israel may have become today. On the other hand, as long as Israel
strives for peace, then the religious system of the Pharisees and
Saducees will have to halt their animal sacrifices, and accept the
human blood sacrifice that was already given to them, for all time -
past, present, and future! Any other "alternative" will end up
decieving the rest of the world, mainly because of the accepted belief
in intelligent intervention and design, by a consciousness (i.e.
'superconsciousness'), that, according to most lame necons, probably"
outlived our own species, but never intervened in worldly affairs,
such as globalist banking, pre-programmed Diebold voting machines, and
general "conspiracy-proof" dinosaur media.
Their most willing accomplices are supposed to be "good" communists,
that believe all men can live together in perfect harmony. Yet as
stout Zionists, they blindly reinvent their so-called animal sacrifice
with personal gain, at the expense of all others' expectation that
their own 'fig tree' will bear the most fruit. The religious spirit of
Zionist Israel can never be fulfilled, or even masked as a religion of
humanism, as long as laws and edicts become reinterpreted in doomed
theories like communism.
At one time, just before they became bought off by the globalist
banksters, they had revolutionary ideas that probably would have
worked within their own feifdoms - but then became enamoured with
their own lust for power, as for what usually happens to "folk class
heroes", even like Mitt Romney, before he became successful at Bain
Capital - communists like Karl Marx (descended from a long list of
Talmudic Rabbis), Moses Hess, mentor and friend of Marx (and Zionist
organizer), Max Warburg (Zionist banker), Jacob Schiff (funded Lenin,
Trotsky, and the Japanese Military against the Russians), Vladimir
Lenin (Advanced Jews are Russian Jews - not Slavs), Yakov Sverdlov
(Head of First People's Commissariat-all Zionist, ordered execution of
Czar Nicolas II, wife, and 5 children), Yakov Yurovsky (Romanov
executioner, avid Talmud reader), Leon Trotsky (Second in command of
the first people's Commissariat), Moisei Solomonovich Uritsky, Karl
Radek, Grigory Zinoviev, Adolph Joffe, Lev Kamenev, Nikolai Bukharin,
Aaron Soltz (conscience of the Communist Party and gulag slave
master), Nikolai Yezhov (tripled the gulag population 1937-1938),
Lazar Kaganovich (wolf of the Kremlin, Butcher of the Ukraine,
responsible for over 7 million deaths of white, Slavic Ukrainians),
Alexander Pavrus (political slavery of white, Slavic Russians, and
slaughter of millions of ethnic Armenians), Karl Liebknecht (Communist
Party of Germany), Rosa Luxemburg (German Marxist Revolutionary during
1919 Sparticus uprising), Bela Kun (Hungarian/Soviet dictator
1918-1919), Emma Goldman (anarchist and feminist who inspired
assassination of McKinley, called Gentiles with nationalistic pride
"conceited, arrogant, and egotist", in regards to their patriotism.),
Alexander Berkman (Anarchist, attempted assassination of industrialist
Henry C. Frick), Bernard Baruch (pushed Federal Reserve Act,
speculator before and during the depression, supported the Abraham
Lincoln Brigade, a Marxist/Anarchist army), Ilya Ehrenburg (Soviet
propaganda journalist), promoted genocide against German civilians),
Josef Rozanski (brutal torture of political enemies, anti-communists,
and Polish nationalists), Rudolph Slansky (Zionist traitor who sent
Czech money to Israel), Matyas Rakosi (Anti-communists should be cut
like slices of salami), Erno Gero (Communist dictator of Hungary), Ana
Pauker (Leader of Communist Party of Romania, used 100,000 jewish &
Romanian money and resources to establish the Israeli Zionist State),
Jay Lovestone (founding member of Communist Party USA, CIA informant),
Alexander Bittleman (Chief Lieutenant Communist Party USA, member of
the Jewish Bund, Jewish/Socialist federation, and socialist party of
America), Herbert Aptheker (chief theoretician, organizer of Communist
party USA, wrote "Negro Slave Revolts", which glorifies black violence
against whites), Julius & Ethel Rosenberg (member of Communist Youth
League, and KGB spy, received death penalty for espionage activity),
Saul Alinsky Marxist theorist, friend, and mentor of Barack Obama,
wrote Rules for Radicals, where the enemy is the middle class), and
Joe Slovo (friend & mentor of Nelson Mandela, leader of South African
Communist Party, and African National Congress, encouraged blacks to
commit genocide against whites). Perhaps only around 10% of the
Russian people were avowed communists while the vast majority were
uneducated jellyfish who were terrified into submission by an
organized group of only 45,000 murderous Zionist opportunists....
One should not make the mistake of smearing the word "jewish" to mean
ANY (non-Tribe of Judah) person within the ranks of Israeli society
who favors statehood, as long as statehood (still) remains a stepping
stone to the capital of the free world - at least that is how book of
Revelation interprets it. As a capital of the free world, there will
always be a contingent of anti-Zionist rabbis who purposely fail to
envision 20 foot high walls being built around Israel for the sake of
security - or for that matter, a defense shield, or even electronic
barrier. There should be plenty of room left in the rest of the world
to pilgrim from, given a more useful system of mass air transit, and
therefore, space travel.
> On Jul 6, 7:08 am, "Hägar" <hs...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Brad Guth" <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:92adddcd-455f-414e...@nw7g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...
> > Off-world resources of any kind can be continually ignored, or even
> > intentionally foiled by those with terrestrial resources yet to
> > pillage and profit from.
>
> > **********************************
> > intentionally foiled by those with terrestrial resources yet to
> > pillage and profit from.
>
> > So, let's see ... our Nigger in Chief cancels the Shuttle, the only means
> > the US had to reach a controlled orbit with a pyload and the manpower to
> > utilize it, the other Nigger, Holdren, wants to change the function of NASA
> > to a Muslim support group, and the third Niggerm Holder, wants us to become
> > the preferred provider of automatic weapons by the Mexican drug runners.
>
> > Yes there are untold riches orbiting twixt Mars and Jupiter, huge chunks of
> > pure iron, irridium, nickel and just about anything needed by the
> > manufacturing arm of any Nation. Unfortunately, that leaves the US out of
> > the game, since we are now a nation of service providers and coddling
> > welfare queens and a haven for butt humping poofters who want equal rights
> > for their shit-stained dicks.
>
> > Trust me ... when we finally undo all the damage the trio of black deadbeats
> > has done and do get to the Asteroid belt with our shopping bags, the Chinese
> > will not let us in and we will tuck our tails twixt our legs and go home and
> > pout. We'll be finished on the world scene, flat broke and will make Uganda
> > look like Utopia ... but all of our deadbeats will have healthcare, financed
> > by taxing the "wealthy", namely anyone who makes minimum wage, which will
> > leave you off the hook, GuthBall..
>
> You're negativity and lack of anything constructive is noted.
>
> Pick something, anything you like, and then promote it, if you dare.
> Promoting hate doesn't count unless it's applied against ZNR FUD-
> masters and the Oligarch Rothschilds that are protecting those of your
> kind.
On Jul 18, 10:05 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Apparently going off-world is never going to become an option for us,
> at least it’s not being allowed to flourish here in Usenet/newsgroups.
>
> Notice how relentless the topic/author stalking gets whenever we
> outsiders start rocking a few of those mainstream boats by offering
> fresh and/or innovative interpretations of what some other moon or
> planet could have to offer. Apparently what I have to say about our
> moon, Venus and Sirius is extremely damaging to their insider cabal
> that normally get to do as they damn well please, and public funded to
> boot.
>
> As with GW Bush and Dick Cheney, Hitler would have absolutely loved
> this internet, with all of its public Usenet/newsgroups and private
> blogs, so that his Third Reich of untraceable FUD-masters and topic/
> author stalking thugs could systematically intercept and terminate all
> those that he didn’t happen to like, because we outsiders as
> this internet, with all of its public Usenet/newsgroups and private
> blogs, so that his Third Reich of untraceable FUD-masters and topic/
> author stalking thugs could systematically intercept and terminate all
> independent investigators could be quite easily identified, rounded up
> and put into his work camps or simply shot on sight without remorse or
> any fear of ever being policed by so many others of their own Semitic
> acting kind.
>
> and put into his work camps or simply shot on sight without remorse or
> any fear of ever being policed by so many others of their own Semitic
> acting kind.
>
what a caste system consists of - those who think they are in control,
but are actually being controlled by the compartmentalization of their
attempt to maintain the system of fiat, for a population that far
outnumbers them! With an increase in electronic communication becoming
widespread, all the lies, criminality, evil, and scum at the top will
be found out, and the system will inevitably crash.
This is similar to what Jesus Christ described as the fig tree, upon
entering Jerusalem. The fig tree represents the unfruitful religious
system of all the Pharisees and Saducees, to which the Zionist State
of Israel may have become today. On the other hand, as long as Israel
strives for peace, then the religious system of the Pharisees and
Saducees will have to halt their animal sacrifices, and accept the
human blood sacrifice that was already given to them, for all time -
past, present, and future! Any other "alternative" will end up
decieving the rest of the world, mainly because of the accepted belief
in intelligent intervention and design, by a consciousness (i.e.
'superconsciousness'), that, according to most lame necons, probably"
outlived our own species, but never intervened in worldly affairs,
such as globalist banking, pre-programmed Diebold voting machines, and
general "conspiracy-proof" dinosaur media.
Their most willing accomplices are supposed to be "good" communists,
that believe all men can live together in perfect harmony. Yet as
stout Zionists, they blindly reinvent their so-called animal sacrifice
with personal gain, at the expense of all others' expectation that
their own 'fig tree' will bear the most fruit. The religious spirit of
Zionist Israel can never be fulfilled, or even masked as a religion of
humanism, as long as laws and edicts become reinterpreted in doomed
theories like communism.
At one time, just before they became bought off by the globalist
banksters, they had revolutionary ideas that probably would have
worked within their own feifdoms - but then became enamoured with
their own lust for power, as for what usually happens to "folk class
heroes", even like Mitt Romney, before he became successful at Bain
Capital - communists like Karl Marx (descended from a long list of
Talmudic Rabbis), Moses Hess, mentor and friend of Marx (and Zionist
organizer), Max Warburg (Zionist banker), Jacob Schiff (funded Lenin,
Trotsky, and the Japanese Military against the Russians), Vladimir
Lenin (Advanced Jews are Russian Jews - not Slavs), Yakov Sverdlov
(Head of First People's Commissariat-all Zionist, ordered execution of
Czar Nicolas II, wife, and 5 children), Yakov Yurovsky (Romanov
executioner, avid Talmud reader), Leon Trotsky (Second in command of
the first people's Commissariat), Moisei Solomonovich Uritsky, Karl
Radek, Grigory Zinoviev, Adolph Joffe, Lev Kamenev, Nikolai Bukharin,
Aaron Soltz (conscience of the Communist Party and gulag slave
master), Nikolai Yezhov (tripled the gulag population 1937-1938),
Lazar Kaganovich (wolf of the Kremlin, Butcher of the Ukraine,
responsible for over 7 million deaths of white, Slavic Ukrainians),
Alexander Pavrus (political slavery of white, Slavic Russians, and
slaughter of millions of ethnic Armenians), Karl Liebknecht (Communist
Party of Germany), Rosa Luxemburg (German Marxist Revolutionary during
1919 Sparticus uprising), Bela Kun (Hungarian/Soviet dictator
1918-1919), Emma Goldman (anarchist and feminist who inspired
assassination of McKinley, called Gentiles with nationalistic pride
"conceited, arrogant, and egotist", in regards to their patriotism.),
Alexander Berkman (Anarchist, attempted assassination of industrialist
Henry C. Frick), Bernard Baruch (pushed Federal Reserve Act,
speculator before and during the depression, supported the Abraham
Lincoln Brigade, a Marxist/Anarchist army), Ilya Ehrenburg (Soviet
propaganda journalist), promoted genocide against German civilians),
Josef Rozanski (brutal torture of political enemies, anti-communists,
and Polish nationalists), Rudolph Slansky (Zionist traitor who sent
Czech money to Israel), Matyas Rakosi (Anti-communists should be cut
like slices of salami), Erno Gero (Communist dictator of Hungary), Ana
Pauker (Leader of Communist Party of Romania, used 100,000 jewish &
Romanian money and resources to establish the Israeli Zionist State),
Jay Lovestone (founding member of Communist Party USA, CIA informant),
Alexander Bittleman (Chief Lieutenant Communist Party USA, member of
the Jewish Bund, Jewish/Socialist federation, and socialist party of
America), Herbert Aptheker (chief theoretician, organizer of Communist
party USA, wrote "Negro Slave Revolts", which glorifies black violence
against whites), Julius & Ethel Rosenberg (member of Communist Youth
League, and KGB spy, received death penalty for espionage activity),
Saul Alinsky Marxist theorist, friend, and mentor of Barack Obama,
wrote Rules for Radicals, where the enemy is the middle class), and
Joe Slovo (friend & mentor of Nelson Mandela, leader of South African
Communist Party, and African National Congress, encouraged blacks to
commit genocide against whites). Perhaps only around 10% of the
Russian people were avowed communists while the vast majority were
uneducated jellyfish who were terrified into submission by an
organized group of only 45,000 murderous Zionist opportunists....
One should not make the mistake of smearing the word "jewish" to mean
ANY (non-Tribe of Judah) person within the ranks of Israeli society
who favors statehood, as long as statehood (still) remains a stepping
stone to the capital of the free world - at least that is how book of
Revelation interprets it. As a capital of the free world, there will
always be a contingent of anti-Zionist rabbis who purposely fail to
envision 20 foot high walls being built around Israel for the sake of
security - or for that matter, a defense shield, or even electronic
barrier. There should be plenty of room left in the rest of the world
to pilgrim from, given a more useful system of mass air transit, and
therefore, space travel.
Brad Guth
Jul 18, 2012, 11:35:41 PM7/18/12
to
extremely few that dare to police their own kind that happen to be
operating as rogue Semites are simply too few and far between. Most
of the global economic meltdowns hasn't been orchestrated or otherwise
assisted by Muslims, though a good too many Jews sure as hell can't
say the same about the actions of their own kind.
The coming economic and social/political crash that's coming, will in
fact cause a social-political reset because all other options will
have failed and global resources will have all been stressed to the
max, of not gotten past the point of no return. Governments of today
are simply 90% unnecessary, and the ongoing overhead burden is simply
too great for its republic that's getting dumber and more insecure by
the day, to sustain this bloated government without the consequences
of war.
Alan Erskine
Jul 19, 2012, 4:22:54 AM7/19/12
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On 19/07/2012 1:35 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Most Jews are not the truly bad guys or naughty gals, however those
> extremely few that dare to police their own kind that happen to be
> operating as rogue Semites are simply too few and far between. Most
> of the global economic meltdowns hasn't been orchestrated or otherwise
> assisted by Muslims, though a good too many Jews sure as hell can't
> say the same about the actions of their own kind.
>
> The coming economic and social/political crash that's coming, will in
> fact cause a social-political reset because all other options will
> have failed and global resources will have all been stressed to the
> max, of not gotten past the point of no return. Governments of today
> are simply 90% unnecessary, and the ongoing overhead burden is simply
> too great for its republic that's getting dumber and more insecure by
> the day, to sustain this bloated government without the consequences
> of war.
You are insane.
> Most Jews are not the truly bad guys or naughty gals, however those
> extremely few that dare to police their own kind that happen to be
> operating as rogue Semites are simply too few and far between. Most
> of the global economic meltdowns hasn't been orchestrated or otherwise
> assisted by Muslims, though a good too many Jews sure as hell can't
> say the same about the actions of their own kind.
>
> The coming economic and social/political crash that's coming, will in
> fact cause a social-political reset because all other options will
> have failed and global resources will have all been stressed to the
> max, of not gotten past the point of no return. Governments of today
> are simply 90% unnecessary, and the ongoing overhead burden is simply
> too great for its republic that's getting dumber and more insecure by
> the day, to sustain this bloated government without the consequences
> of war.
Brad Guth
Jul 19, 2012, 6:17:41 AM7/19/12
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Most Jews are not the truly bad guys or naughty gals, however those
extremely few that dare to police their own kind that happen to be
operating as rogue Semites are simply too few and far between. Most
of the global economic meltdowns hasn't been orchestrated or otherwise
assisted by Muslims, though a good too many Jews sure as hell can't
say the same about the actions of their own Oligarch kind that have
extremely few that dare to police their own kind that happen to be
operating as rogue Semites are simply too few and far between. Most
of the global economic meltdowns hasn't been orchestrated or otherwise
assisted by Muslims, though a good too many Jews sure as hell can't
been in charge of or sufficiently dominating the vast majority of our
global resources.
Amy group of individuals that doesn't bother to police its own kind is
nothing more than a mafia or cabal/cartel of insiders, and of those as
public funded insiders are the absolute worse kind of mafia or false
republic because, it seems they get do as they please as well as
getting others to follow their lead without a speck of remorse about
anything they’ve managed and/or planned to do.
The economic and social/political crash that's coming for the rest of
us, will in fact cause a social-political reset, because all other
options will have failed and global resources will have all been
stressed to the max, if not gotten past the point of no return.
Governments of today are bloated and simply 90% unnecessary, and the
ongoing overhead burden has become too great for its republic that's
gets to pay for everything and is getting dumber and more insecure by
the day, to sustain this level of bloated government without the
consequences of a wartime economy.
Perhaps the one and only good thing about the new Google Groups+
version of Usenet/newsgroups is that fewer spooks, moles and
pretenders will be allowed to topic/author stalk without having a true
name and working email address that's associated to a real person,
although true insiders as government agents or faith-based protected
cabals will naturally still get to do as they please, just like Hitler
and his Third Reich army.
BTW; why do you use a phony name and otherwise hide your true
identity?
http://groups.google.com/groups/search
http://translate.google.com/#
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On Jul 18, 1:32 pm, nartrof seven <nartro...@gmail.com> wrote:
Alan Erskine
Jul 19, 2012, 8:40:07 AM7/19/12
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On 19/07/2012 8:17 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Amy group of individuals that doesn't bother to police its own kind is
> nothing more than a mafia or cabal/cartel of insiders, and of those as
> public funded insiders are the absolute worse kind of mafia or false
> republic because, it seems they get do as they please as well as
> getting others to follow their lead without a speck of remorse about
> anything they�ve managed and/or planned to do.
> Amy group of individuals that doesn't bother to police its own kind is
> nothing more than a mafia or cabal/cartel of insiders, and of those as
> public funded insiders are the absolute worse kind of mafia or false
> republic because, it seems they get do as they please as well as
> getting others to follow their lead without a speck of remorse about
You are insane.
Brad Guth
Jul 19, 2012, 9:10:10 AM7/19/12
to
Intellectual terrorist as Google Groups and Usenet/newsgroup insiders
that get to topic/author stalk and bash for all they can muster, is
mainstream status-quo. Just watch as these brown-nosed clowns show up
and keep proving that I'm right.
that get to topic/author stalk and bash for all they can muster, is
mainstream status-quo. Just watch as these brown-nosed clowns show up
and keep proving that I'm right.
Message has been deleted
Alan Erskine
Jul 20, 2012, 6:24:29 AM7/20/12
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On 19/07/2012 11:10 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Intellectual terrorist as Google Groups and Usenet/newsgroup insiders
> that get to topic/author stalk and bash for all they can muster, is
> mainstream status-quo. Just watch as these brown-nosed clowns show up
> and keep proving that I'm right.
You are insane.
> Intellectual terrorist as Google Groups and Usenet/newsgroup insiders
> that get to topic/author stalk and bash for all they can muster, is
> mainstream status-quo. Just watch as these brown-nosed clowns show up
> and keep proving that I'm right.
Brad Guth
Jul 20, 2012, 7:40:34 AM7/20/12
to
Most Jews are not the truly bad guys or naughty gals, however those
extremely few that actually dare to police their own kind that happen
to be operating as rogue Semites, are simply too few and far between
to do any good. Most of the political unrest and their global
economic meltdowns hasn't been orchestrated or otherwise assisted by
Muslims, though a good too many Jews sure as hell can't say the same
about the actions of their own faith-based Oligarch kind that have so
Muslims, though a good too many Jews sure as hell can't say the same
often been in charge of or sufficiently dominating the vast majority
of our global resources and its legal authority of looking after and
enforcing policy, such as our SEC and their private Federal Reserve
that have been allowed to do as they please which included looking the
other way when laws and policies were being violated by others of
their own kind.
Of course any group of individuals that doesn't bother to police its
own kind is nothing more than a social/political and intellectual
mafia or borg like cabal/cartel of insiders, and of those as public
funded insiders are the absolute worse kind of social/political mafia
or false republic because, it seems they get to do as they please, as
well as getting others to follow their lead without a speck of remorse
about anything they’ve managed and/or having planned to do.
The economic and social/political crash that's coming for the rest of
us, will in fact cause a social-political reset, because all other
options will have failed and global resources will have all been
stressed to the max, if not gotten past the point of no return.
and the ongoing overhead burden (including those we’ve contracted and
others inactive or retired) has become too great for its republic that
always gets to pay for everything while getting dumber and more
insecure by the day, to sustain this level of bloated government
without the added consequences of another wartime economy.
Perhaps the one and only good thing about the new Google Groups+
version of Usenet/newsgroups is that fewer spooks, moles and
pretenders will be allowed to topic/author stalk without having a true
can be identified, although true insiders as government agents or
faith-based protected cabals will naturally still get to do as they
please, just like Hitler and his Third Reich army (some of which were
Semites).
BTW; why do these insiders and fellow FUD-masters consistently use
phony names and otherwise hide their true identity?
allow others as outsiders to benefit or otherwise profit.
With the official history always moderated by the victors and their
broken social/political systems still in charge and allowed to be
making the same mistakes of greed, corruption and playing favoritism
over and over, it's unlikely that the republics that get to pay for
everything will accomplish 10% of whatever should have been, and the
decades of delay certainly is a very big part of that ongoing failure
to get ourselves off-world.
Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon. Go figure
how those continually opposed to anything that isn't insider Oligarch
approved, are also required and/or compelled to topic/author stalk and
bash at this one and at anything else I might have to offer, for all
“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
Alan Erskine
Jul 20, 2012, 10:42:08 PM7/20/12
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On 20/07/2012 9:40 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
> BTW; why do these insiders and fellow FUD-masters consistently use
> phony names and otherwise hide their true identity?
You mean like you with your fudged header info?
>
> BTW; why do these insiders and fellow FUD-masters consistently use
> phony names and otherwise hide their true identity?
Alan Erskine
Jul 21, 2012, 6:00:53 AM7/21/12
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Complaints against Guth can be sent to ab...@qwest.net - include the
reason for the complaint and all other information, including headers.
Reasons include off-topic posts, racism etc.
reason for the complaint and all other information, including headers.
Reasons include off-topic posts, racism etc.
Brad Guth
Jul 21, 2012, 1:18:37 PM7/21/12
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In case some of you folks and K12s can't figure out this topic, just
remember that it's 100% my topic to do as I please with.
Those mainstream topic/author stalking and bashing my topics and
replies for all they can muster are the ones that have ulterior
motives and hidden agendas that I've put at risk. It seems they don't
care for my suggesting that the government of our republic that's
extensively run by those we don't elect or appoint, and their vast
army of public funded brown-nosed minions and FUD-masters which
obviously can't always be trusted to do the right thing, as such
should never be independently investigated or otherwise questioned.
Go figure.
Why is it always my fault that so many involved with imposing and
sustaining their mainstream status-quo of ethnic superiority are
either faith-based extremest or pretend-Atheists that always act/react
exactly like devout Zionists Oligarchs?
http://groups.google.com/groups/search
http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”
> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
> http://translate.google.com/#
remember that it's 100% my topic to do as I please with.
Those mainstream topic/author stalking and bashing my topics and
replies for all they can muster are the ones that have ulterior
motives and hidden agendas that I've put at risk. It seems they don't
care for my suggesting that the government of our republic that's
extensively run by those we don't elect or appoint, and their vast
army of public funded brown-nosed minions and FUD-masters which
obviously can't always be trusted to do the right thing, as such
should never be independently investigated or otherwise questioned.
Go figure.
Why is it always my fault that so many involved with imposing and
sustaining their mainstream status-quo of ethnic superiority are
either faith-based extremest or pretend-Atheists that always act/react
exactly like devout Zionists Oligarchs?
http://groups.google.com/groups/search
http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”
On Jul 5, 9:18 pm, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Off-world resources of any kind can be continually ignored, or even
> intentionally foiled by those with terrestrial resources yet to
> pillage and profit from.
>
> Off-world resources of any kind can be continually ignored, or even
> intentionally foiled by those with terrestrial resources yet to
> pillage and profit from.
>
> http://translate.google.com/#
Alan Erskine
Jul 21, 2012, 6:22:21 PM7/21/12
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On 22/07/2012 3:18 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> In case some of you folks and K12s can't figure out this topic, just
> remember that it's 100% my topic to do as I please with.
>
> Those mainstream topic/author stalking and bashing my topics and
> replies for all they can muster are the ones that have ulterior
> motives and hidden agendas that I've put at risk. It seems they don't
> care for my suggesting that the government of our republic that's
> extensively run by those we don't elect or appoint, and their vast
> army of public funded brown-nosed minions and FUD-masters which
> obviously can't always be trusted to do the right thing, as such
> should never be independently investigated or otherwise questioned.
> Go figure.
>
> Why is it always my fault that so many involved with imposing and
> sustaining their mainstream status-quo of ethnic superiority are
> either faith-based extremest or pretend-Atheists that always act/react
> exactly like devout Zionists Oligarchs?
You are insane.
> In case some of you folks and K12s can't figure out this topic, just
> remember that it's 100% my topic to do as I please with.
>
> Those mainstream topic/author stalking and bashing my topics and
> replies for all they can muster are the ones that have ulterior
> motives and hidden agendas that I've put at risk. It seems they don't
> care for my suggesting that the government of our republic that's
> extensively run by those we don't elect or appoint, and their vast
> army of public funded brown-nosed minions and FUD-masters which
> obviously can't always be trusted to do the right thing, as such
> should never be independently investigated or otherwise questioned.
> Go figure.
>
> Why is it always my fault that so many involved with imposing and
> sustaining their mainstream status-quo of ethnic superiority are
> either faith-based extremest or pretend-Atheists that always act/react
> exactly like devout Zionists Oligarchs?
Message has been deleted
Brad Guth
Jul 22, 2012, 4:28:56 PM7/22/12
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Notice how my little topics can always make these ZNR redneck FUD-
masters dance as they topic/author stalk and bash for all they and
other Oligarchs can muster. I bet you folks had no idea how much of a
threat I've imposed upon their mainstream status-quo.
masters dance as they topic/author stalk and bash for all they and
other Oligarchs can muster. I bet you folks had no idea how much of a
threat I've imposed upon their mainstream status-quo.
Greg (Strider) Moore
Jul 22, 2012, 5:14:54 PM7/22/12
to
"Brad Guth" wrote in message
news:816663fa-70be-4025...@t20g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
Brad, I'm sorry, but accurate or not, the conclusion a vast majority of the
folks who have read your posts have come to is that you need serious help.
Now, you can persist in the belief that you alone are the sane one and have
the one true insight into the world. Or you can be rational and at least
consider the possibility that they're all right and you're simply wrong.
But, you won't.
--
Greg D. Moore http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/
CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses. http://www.quicr.net
news:816663fa-70be-4025...@t20g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
>Notice how my little topics can always make these ZNR redneck FUD-
>masters dance as they topic/author stalk and bash for all they and
>other Oligarchs can muster. I bet you folks had no idea how much of a
>threat I've imposed upon their mainstream status-quo.
Oh we have an idea. It is in fact "not at all."
>Notice how my little topics can always make these ZNR redneck FUD-
>masters dance as they topic/author stalk and bash for all they and
>other Oligarchs can muster. I bet you folks had no idea how much of a
>threat I've imposed upon their mainstream status-quo.
Brad, I'm sorry, but accurate or not, the conclusion a vast majority of the
folks who have read your posts have come to is that you need serious help.
Now, you can persist in the belief that you alone are the sane one and have
the one true insight into the world. Or you can be rational and at least
consider the possibility that they're all right and you're simply wrong.
But, you won't.
--
Greg D. Moore http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/
CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses. http://www.quicr.net
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Alan Erskine
Jul 22, 2012, 7:00:20 PM7/22/12
to
On 23/07/2012 6:28 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Notice how my little topics can always make these ZNR redneck FUD-
> masters dance as they topic/author stalk and bash for all they and
> other Oligarchs can muster. I bet you folks had no idea how much of a
> threat I've imposed upon their mainstream status-quo.
You are insane.
> Notice how my little topics can always make these ZNR redneck FUD-
> masters dance as they topic/author stalk and bash for all they and
> other Oligarchs can muster. I bet you folks had no idea how much of a
> threat I've imposed upon their mainstream status-quo.
Brad Guth
Jul 22, 2012, 5:40:58 PM7/22/12
to
On Jul 22, 2:14 pm, "Greg \(Strider\) Moore"
Your Oligarch approved feedback of perpetual naysay and denial has
what to do with "Off-World Metallicity and The Next Great Super-Duper
Thing"?
Unlike your mainstream status-quo self that's fully invested in
terrestrial resources, I've never stipulated that my interpretations
as to off-world resources are the one and only option, because I too
have many terrestrial options that you and others of your kind also
refused to consider. Of course sticking with our terrestrial limited
options is going to become highly problematic for a much wider portion
of humanity and the frail biodiversity of our planet, especially with
10+ billion cranky humans and much worse for those of us that are not
Oligarch brown-nosed minion approved as to being kept alive in order
to service those of your upper caste kind of superior bloodline.
what to do with "Off-World Metallicity and The Next Great Super-Duper
Thing"?
Unlike your mainstream status-quo self that's fully invested in
terrestrial resources, I've never stipulated that my interpretations
as to off-world resources are the one and only option, because I too
have many terrestrial options that you and others of your kind also
refused to consider. Of course sticking with our terrestrial limited
options is going to become highly problematic for a much wider portion
of humanity and the frail biodiversity of our planet, especially with
10+ billion cranky humans and much worse for those of us that are not
Oligarch brown-nosed minion approved as to being kept alive in order
to service those of your upper caste kind of superior bloodline.
Alan Erskine
Jul 22, 2012, 8:10:08 PM7/22/12
to
On 23/07/2012 7:40 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Your Oligarch approved feedback of perpetual naysay and denial has
> what to do with "Off-World Metallicity and The Next Great Super-Duper
> Thing"?
You are insane.
> Your Oligarch approved feedback of perpetual naysay and denial has
> what to do with "Off-World Metallicity and The Next Great Super-Duper
> Thing"?
Greg (Strider) Moore
Jul 22, 2012, 9:14:11 PM7/22/12
to
"Brad Guth" wrote in message
news:0d330414-136a-43e4...@f16g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
pay my bills I've given up on anything they have to say.
>
>Unlike your mainstream status-quo self that's fully invested in
>terrestrial resources,
bonds. I find investing in resources to be a bad idea.
I've never stipulated that my interpretations
>as to off-world resources are the one and only option, because I too
>have many terrestrial options that you and others of your kind also
>refused to consider. Of course sticking with our terrestrial limited
>options is going to become highly problematic for a much wider portion
>of humanity and the frail biodiversity of our planet, especially with
>10+ billion cranky humans and much worse for those of us that are not
>Oligarch brown-nosed minion approved as to being kept alive in order
>to service those of your upper caste kind of superior bloodline.
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
> http://translate.google.com/#
> Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”
>
>
Brad Guth
Jul 23, 2012, 12:10:55 AM7/23/12
to
On Jul 22, 6:14 pm, "Greg \(Strider\) Moore"
In other words, other than insuring that Oligarchs and their brown-
nosed minions survive WW3, you have no viable solution for
accommodating 10+ billion humans, and least of all going off-world is
never going to become an option as long as you and others of your kind
are in charge.
nosed minions survive WW3, you have no viable solution for
accommodating 10+ billion humans, and least of all going off-world is
never going to become an option as long as you and others of your kind
are in charge.
Greg (Strider) Moore
Jul 23, 2012, 2:07:37 AM7/23/12
to
>
>"Brad Guth" wrote in message
>
>In other words, other than insuring that Oligarchs and their brown-
>nosed minions survive WW3, you have no viable solution for
>accommodating 10+ billion humans, and least of all going off-world is
>never going to become an option as long as you and others of your kind
>are in charge.
Damn, I'm in charge? I didn't know that. There's going to be some changes
>In other words, other than insuring that Oligarchs and their brown-
>nosed minions survive WW3, you have no viable solution for
>accommodating 10+ billion humans, and least of all going off-world is
>never going to become an option as long as you and others of your kind
>are in charge.
around here!
Starting with the color pink. I think there needs to be some more pink in
the world.
So tell me, if I'm in charge, who can I order around?
HVAC
Jul 23, 2012, 7:53:58 AM7/23/12
to
On 7/22/2012 4:28 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Notice how my little topics can always make these ZNR redneck FUD-
> masters dance as they topic/author stalk and bash for all they and
> other Oligarchs can muster. I bet you folks had no idea how much of a
> threat I've imposed upon their mainstream status-quo.
You're as much of a 'threat' as was Bozo the clown.
> Notice how my little topics can always make these ZNR redneck FUD-
> masters dance as they topic/author stalk and bash for all they and
> other Oligarchs can muster. I bet you folks had no idea how much of a
> threat I've imposed upon their mainstream status-quo.
>
>
> On Jul 21, 10:18 am, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In case some of you folks and K12s can't figure out this topic, just
>> remember that it's 100% my topic to do as I please with.
>>
>> Those mainstream topic/author stalking and bashing my topics and
>> replies for all they can muster are the ones that have ulterior
>> motives and hidden agendas that I've put at risk. It seems they don't
>> care for my suggesting that the government of our republic that's
>> extensively run by those we don't elect or appoint, and their vast
>> army of public funded brown-nosed minions and FUD-masters which
>> obviously can't always be trusted to do the right thing, as such
>> should never be independently investigated or otherwise questioned.
>> Go figure.
>>
>> Why is it always my fault that so many involved with imposing and
>> sustaining their mainstream status-quo of ethnic superiority are
>> either faith-based extremest or pretend-Atheists that always act/react
>> exactly like devout Zionists Oligarchs?
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>> http://translate.google.com/#
>>
>> On Jul 5, 9:18 pm, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Off-world resources of any kind can be continually ignored, or even
>>> intentionally foiled by those with terrestrial resources yet to
>>> pillage and profit from.
>>
>>> �Fossil Fuels: A Legacy of Disaster�
>> On Jul 5, 9:18 pm, Brad Guth<bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Off-world resources of any kind can be continually ignored, or even
>>> intentionally foiled by those with terrestrial resources yet to
>>> pillage and profit from.
>>
>>> http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/04/fossil_fuel_legacy.html
>>
>>> Of course under-reporting of death and injuries has always been an
>>> industry-wide tactical form of PR damage-control (aka need to know),
>>> and those long-term affects of Big Energy traumatizing and/or reducing
>>> the quality of life for those that can least afford to deal with
>>> modifying their environment by moving further away from anything
>>> that�s truly nasty, as such are typically swept under the nearest rug,
>>
>>> Of course under-reporting of death and injuries has always been an
>>> industry-wide tactical form of PR damage-control (aka need to know),
>>> and those long-term affects of Big Energy traumatizing and/or reducing
>>> the quality of life for those that can least afford to deal with
>>> modifying their environment by moving further away from anything
>>> or using FUD in order to falsely put the blame upon others, and just
>>> like their all-inclusive environmental consequences which are mostly
>>> negative, getting passed along to the next unsuspecting and typically
>>> dumbfounded K12 generation is Oligarch/Rothschild policy status quo.
>>
>>> Besides all the negative impact to our atmosphere and it�s protective
>>> like their all-inclusive environmental consequences which are mostly
>>> negative, getting passed along to the next unsuspecting and typically
>>> dumbfounded K12 generation is Oligarch/Rothschild policy status quo.
>>
>>> ozone layer, badly contaminated groundwater from defective wells and
>>> especially via fracking is typically ignored or at best only white-
>>> washed via denial and obfuscation, as well as having been typically
>>> accusing whatever local citizens of perpetual whining or being liars
>>> and extortionists when they complain about their health or their water
>>> becoming too nasty to drink, cook with or even bath in.
>>
>>> Of course many other nations on Earth have been much further exploited
>>> and thoroughly corrupted than ours, so we can safely figure that one
>>> as representing a perfectly valid death, injury and environmental
>>> trauma magnifier or multiplier, that again is way underreported and
>>> remains unlike Oligarchs and Rothschilds that never seem to complain
>>> about anything that�s toxic or spendy, whereas few if any Muslims had
>>> especially via fracking is typically ignored or at best only white-
>>> washed via denial and obfuscation, as well as having been typically
>>> accusing whatever local citizens of perpetual whining or being liars
>>> and extortionists when they complain about their health or their water
>>> becoming too nasty to drink, cook with or even bath in.
>>
>>> Of course many other nations on Earth have been much further exploited
>>> and thoroughly corrupted than ours, so we can safely figure that one
>>> as representing a perfectly valid death, injury and environmental
>>> trauma magnifier or multiplier, that again is way underreported and
>>> remains unlike Oligarchs and Rothschilds that never seem to complain
>>> been involved with such ongoing deceptions (so perhaps it�s still all
>>> their fault for not having been participating in the hydrocarbon
>>> exploitation and of its mass consumption like all the rest of us).
>>
>>> The really good news, is by the time 2150 or even 2122 roles around
>>> and we�ve survived WW3 and WW4 of perpetual nation-building that
>>> exploitation and of its mass consumption like all the rest of us).
>>
>>> The really good news, is by the time 2150 or even 2122 roles around
>>> seldom goes according to plan, there really shouldn�t be hardly any
>>> 4He(helium) nor all that much CH4/methane to go around, as well as
>>> other hydrocarbons as having become so scarce and/or spendy that their
>>> consumption should drastically fall off to something less than 10% of
>>> currently taking place (considering the global population of 9
>>> billion, this well have become a truly monumental accomplishment). By
>>> the year 2222 and if we�re still lucky with having only 12 billion of
>>> other hydrocarbons as having become so scarce and/or spendy that their
>>> consumption should drastically fall off to something less than 10% of
>>> currently taking place (considering the global population of 9
>>> billion, this well have become a truly monumental accomplishment). By
>>> us, whereas most all of our environmental trauma caused by the
>>> previous hydrocarbon consumption and our helium loss era should be
>>> practically cleared up, and once again our atmosphere including its
>>> nifty ozone layer should eventually become a whole lot cleaner and
>>> doing a fine job of better protecting us.
>>
>>> Instead of human cremation that takes a considerable amount of energy
>>> and causes pollution, there will be only liquefaction methods used,
>>> and the end product re-utilized in various constructive ways of
>>> recycling such organic matter.
>>
>>> So, the sooner we use up our solid, liquid and gaseous forms of
>>> hydrocarbons, plus vent off or otherwise leak the vast bulk of our
>>> disposable methane and helium, the better for mother nature and her
>>> remaining biodiversity.
>>
>>> Once the majority of humans are either badly suffering or starving to
>>> death, and hydrocarbons become a thing of the past for the vast
>>> majority of us, along with the scant remainders of hoarded helium plus
>>> many other elements being one of the most spendy on earth per kg,
>>> whereas nature can rebound and off-world enterprises of mostly private
>>> Oligarch/Rothschilds can begin taunting us with their tremendous
>>> wealth and authority over anyone we might care to elect or appoint.
>>> So, it�s no wonder they�re not helping out any private efforts to do
>>> previous hydrocarbon consumption and our helium loss era should be
>>> practically cleared up, and once again our atmosphere including its
>>> nifty ozone layer should eventually become a whole lot cleaner and
>>> doing a fine job of better protecting us.
>>
>>> Instead of human cremation that takes a considerable amount of energy
>>> and causes pollution, there will be only liquefaction methods used,
>>> and the end product re-utilized in various constructive ways of
>>> recycling such organic matter.
>>
>>> So, the sooner we use up our solid, liquid and gaseous forms of
>>> hydrocarbons, plus vent off or otherwise leak the vast bulk of our
>>> disposable methane and helium, the better for mother nature and her
>>> remaining biodiversity.
>>
>>> Once the majority of humans are either badly suffering or starving to
>>> death, and hydrocarbons become a thing of the past for the vast
>>> majority of us, along with the scant remainders of hoarded helium plus
>>> many other elements being one of the most spendy on earth per kg,
>>> whereas nature can rebound and off-world enterprises of mostly private
>>> Oligarch/Rothschilds can begin taunting us with their tremendous
>>> wealth and authority over anyone we might care to elect or appoint.
>>> anything too sudden or spontaneously towards accomplishing off-world
>>> exploitations that might actually benefit the rest of us while
>>> terrestrial resources haven�t yet been artificially inflated to their
>>> exploitations that might actually benefit the rest of us while
>>> maximum potential.
>>
>>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search
>>> http://translate.google.com/#
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>
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>>
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>
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo
Alan Erskine
Jul 23, 2012, 8:09:00 AM7/23/12
to
On 23/07/2012 9:53 PM, HVAC wrote:
> You're as much of a 'threat' as was Bozo the clown.
You get in the way of those shoes and you'd know it! ;-)
> You're as much of a 'threat' as was Bozo the clown.
Brad Guth
Jul 23, 2012, 8:29:45 AM7/23/12
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On Jul 22, 11:07 pm, "Greg \(Strider\) Moore"
The mainstream status-quo doesn't have to work in mysterious ways,
because they already control or sufficiently influence most everything
that counts.
The ZNR oligarchs depend on their brown-nosed clowns and minions as
always doing their mafia right thing, but when they go rogue there's
usually no policing of their own kind because they don't believe in
hell or even have the same God as anyone else.
As far as I can tell, there's no obvious difference between an Atheist
and that of a Zionist Semite or most any mafia you'd care to name.
because they already control or sufficiently influence most everything
that counts.
The ZNR oligarchs depend on their brown-nosed clowns and minions as
always doing their mafia right thing, but when they go rogue there's
usually no policing of their own kind because they don't believe in
hell or even have the same God as anyone else.
As far as I can tell, there's no obvious difference between an Atheist
and that of a Zionist Semite or most any mafia you'd care to name.
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Alan Erskine
Jul 23, 2012, 9:52:24 AM7/23/12
to
On 23/07/2012 10:29 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> The ZNR oligarchs depend on their brown-nosed clowns and minions as
> always doing their mafia right thing, but when they go rogue there's
> usually no policing of their own kind because they don't believe in
> hell or even have the same God as anyone else.
>
> As far as I can tell, there's no obvious difference between an Atheist
> and that of a Zionist Semite or most any mafia you'd care to name.
You are insane.
> The ZNR oligarchs depend on their brown-nosed clowns and minions as
> always doing their mafia right thing, but when they go rogue there's
> usually no policing of their own kind because they don't believe in
> hell or even have the same God as anyone else.
>
> As far as I can tell, there's no obvious difference between an Atheist
> and that of a Zionist Semite or most any mafia you'd care to name.
Brad Guth
Jul 24, 2012, 10:30:19 AM7/24/12
to
Apparently going off-world is never going to become a valid option for
us, at least it’s not being allowed to flourish as even a topic here
in Usenet/newsgroups.
Notice how relentless and devoted the topic/author stalking gets
masters and topic/author stalking thugs could systematically intercept
and terminate all those they didn’t happen to like, because we
Going off-world for us humans will likely never encounter another star
system with viable planets, planetoids and moons, that is unless
they’re coming to us via those stellar proper motion and gravity
interactions. However, the vast Sirius Oort cloud of perhaps 8 ly
radius will likely be full of surprises as it passes through our Oort
cloud of only one ly radii.
Including red dwarfs that according to others (including myself) could
easily represent 80% of all stars, our stellar accounting for the
Milky Way galaxy becomes roughly worth hosting at the very least a
trillion stars, and if there's yet another hundred thousand wandering/
nomad planets per star and no doubt at least another million
planetoids and asteroids per star as having been set free to move
about the galaxy, whereas the ISM of what we used to think of as open
space has actually been getting very crowded out there, as well as
this ISM population of planets, planetoids and asteroids easily
capable of doubling the previously known mass of our galaxy.
Functioning red dwarf solar systems of a third or fourth the mass of
our sun, as well as a few binary red dwarfs are also the most likely
hosts of many extra planets that could be Goldilocks inhabited.
Such nomad or rogue planets need not be devoid of life, because of the
core energy plus tidal interactions of large moons of individual or
binary planets as having been set free to roam the galaxy, could
easily sustain complex and even intelligent other life that obviously
learned how to deal with a great amount of snow and ice.
Unfortunately, we can't seem to pillage and plunder the vast resources
of our very own nearby, physically dark and paramagnetic moon, not to
mention the extremely nearby planet Venus that has lots of nifty
elements to offer.
Unfortunately, it seems the mainstream status-quo doesn't like
outsiders even reading about or much less giving others any credit for
their research, and my being topic/author stalked by one or more of
their own kind and seeing no policing whatsoever, is a very clear sign
of worse things to come.
Unlike astronomy and astrophysics that has to apply an educated guess
at whatever any given point-source of stellar illumination or that of
any minor reflected itsy bitsy speck of an albedo has to offer,
whereas "Guth Venus" gets seriously nearby and looking big as hell,
offering us a terrific image of actual physical terrain and multiple
variations of complex patterns of that physically hot surface
environment to look at and interpret, that simply can't be so easily
explained away as any perfectly natural formed geology that we know
of. So, either those natural laws of geology and the subsequent
physics of its surface formations and the subsequent erosions have
been functioning differently on Venus, or perhaps we’re looking at an
unusually complex surface of what seems as though having been
artificially modified to suit.
Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon. Go figure
how those continually opposed to anything that isn't insider Oligarch
approved, are also required and/or compelled to topic/author stalk and
bash at this one and at anything else I might have to offer, for all
the Semitic approved hate and disparagement they and their fellow
Atheists can muster.
“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow/5629579402364691314
Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
us, at least it’s not being allowed to flourish as even a topic here
in Usenet/newsgroups.
Notice how relentless and devoted the topic/author stalking gets
whenever we outsiders start rocking a few of those mainstream boats by
offering fresh and/or innovative interpretations of what some other
moon or planet could have to offer. Apparently what I have to say
about our moon, Venus and Sirius is extremely damaging to their
insider cabal that normally get to do as they damn well please, and
public funded to boot.
As with GW Bush and Dick Cheney, Hitler would have absolutely loved
this internet, with all of its public Usenet/newsgroups and private
blogs of free speech, so that his Third Reich of untraceable MIB, FUD-
offering fresh and/or innovative interpretations of what some other
moon or planet could have to offer. Apparently what I have to say
about our moon, Venus and Sirius is extremely damaging to their
insider cabal that normally get to do as they damn well please, and
public funded to boot.
As with GW Bush and Dick Cheney, Hitler would have absolutely loved
this internet, with all of its public Usenet/newsgroups and private
masters and topic/author stalking thugs could systematically intercept
and terminate all those they didn’t happen to like, because we
outsiders as independent investigators could be quite easily
identified, rounded up and put into his work camps or simply shot on
sight without remorse or any fear of ever being policed by so many
others of their own Semitic Oligarch acting kind.
identified, rounded up and put into his work camps or simply shot on
sight without remorse or any fear of ever being policed by so many
system with viable planets, planetoids and moons, that is unless
they’re coming to us via those stellar proper motion and gravity
interactions. However, the vast Sirius Oort cloud of perhaps 8 ly
radius will likely be full of surprises as it passes through our Oort
cloud of only one ly radii.
Including red dwarfs that according to others (including myself) could
easily represent 80% of all stars, our stellar accounting for the
Milky Way galaxy becomes roughly worth hosting at the very least a
trillion stars, and if there's yet another hundred thousand wandering/
nomad planets per star and no doubt at least another million
planetoids and asteroids per star as having been set free to move
about the galaxy, whereas the ISM of what we used to think of as open
space has actually been getting very crowded out there, as well as
this ISM population of planets, planetoids and asteroids easily
capable of doubling the previously known mass of our galaxy.
Functioning red dwarf solar systems of a third or fourth the mass of
our sun, as well as a few binary red dwarfs are also the most likely
hosts of many extra planets that could be Goldilocks inhabited.
Such nomad or rogue planets need not be devoid of life, because of the
core energy plus tidal interactions of large moons of individual or
binary planets as having been set free to roam the galaxy, could
easily sustain complex and even intelligent other life that obviously
learned how to deal with a great amount of snow and ice.
Unfortunately, we can't seem to pillage and plunder the vast resources
of our very own nearby, physically dark and paramagnetic moon, not to
mention the extremely nearby planet Venus that has lots of nifty
elements to offer.
Unfortunately, it seems the mainstream status-quo doesn't like
outsiders even reading about or much less giving others any credit for
their research, and my being topic/author stalked by one or more of
their own kind and seeing no policing whatsoever, is a very clear sign
of worse things to come.
Unlike astronomy and astrophysics that has to apply an educated guess
at whatever any given point-source of stellar illumination or that of
any minor reflected itsy bitsy speck of an albedo has to offer,
whereas "Guth Venus" gets seriously nearby and looking big as hell,
offering us a terrific image of actual physical terrain and multiple
variations of complex patterns of that physically hot surface
environment to look at and interpret, that simply can't be so easily
explained away as any perfectly natural formed geology that we know
of. So, either those natural laws of geology and the subsequent
physics of its surface formations and the subsequent erosions have
been functioning differently on Venus, or perhaps we’re looking at an
unusually complex surface of what seems as though having been
artificially modified to suit.
Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon. Go figure
how those continually opposed to anything that isn't insider Oligarch
approved, are also required and/or compelled to topic/author stalk and
bash at this one and at anything else I might have to offer, for all
Atheists can muster.
“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/102736204560337818634/BradGuth#slideshow/5629579402364691314
Other thumbnail images, including mgn_c115s095_1.gif (225 m/pixel)
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/thumbnail_pages/venus_thumbnails.html
Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_c115s095_1.gif
http://groups.google.com/groups/search
http://translate.google.com/#
Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus”
http://translate.google.com/#
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On Jul 21, 10:18 am, Brad Guth <bradg...@gmail.com> wrote:
Alan Erskine
Jul 24, 2012, 11:22:25 AM7/24/12
to
On 25/07/2012 12:30 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Apparently going off-world is never going to become a valid option for
> us, at least it�s not being allowed to flourish as even a topic here
> Apparently going off-world is never going to become a valid option for
> in Usenet/newsgroups.
>
> Notice how relentless and devoted the topic/author stalking gets
> whenever we outsiders start rocking a few of those mainstream boats by
> offering fresh and/or innovative interpretations of what some other
> moon or planet could have to offer. Apparently what I have to say
> about our moon, Venus and Sirius is extremely damaging to their
> insider cabal that normally get to do as they damn well please, and
> public funded to boot.
You are insane.
>
> Notice how relentless and devoted the topic/author stalking gets
> whenever we outsiders start rocking a few of those mainstream boats by
> offering fresh and/or innovative interpretations of what some other
> moon or planet could have to offer. Apparently what I have to say
> about our moon, Venus and Sirius is extremely damaging to their
> insider cabal that normally get to do as they damn well please, and
> public funded to boot.
Alan Erskine
Jul 24, 2012, 11:23:23 AM7/24/12
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On 25/07/2012 12:30 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Apparently going off-world is never going to become a valid option for
> us, at least it�s not being allowed to flourish as even a topic here
> in Usenet/newsgroups.
>
> Notice how relentless and devoted the topic/author stalking gets
> whenever we outsiders start rocking a few of those mainstream boats by
> offering fresh and/or innovative interpretations of what some other
> moon or planet could have to offer. Apparently what I have to say
> about our moon, Venus and Sirius is extremely damaging to their
> insider cabal that normally get to do as they damn well please, and
> public funded to boot.
>
You believe life exists on Venus; you are insane.
>
> Notice how relentless and devoted the topic/author stalking gets
> whenever we outsiders start rocking a few of those mainstream boats by
> offering fresh and/or innovative interpretations of what some other
> moon or planet could have to offer. Apparently what I have to say
> about our moon, Venus and Sirius is extremely damaging to their
> insider cabal that normally get to do as they damn well please, and
> public funded to boot.
>
Brad Guth
Jul 25, 2012, 12:03:02 AM7/25/12
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On Jul 24, 8:23 am, Alan Erskine <alan.erski...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> On 25/07/2012 12:30 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
> > Apparently going off-world is never going to become a valid option for
> > us, at least it’s not being allowed to flourish as even a topic here
> On 25/07/2012 12:30 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
> > Apparently going off-world is never going to become a valid option for
> > in Usenet/newsgroups.
>
> > Notice how relentless and devoted the topic/author stalking gets
> > whenever we outsiders start rocking a few of those mainstream boats by
> > offering fresh and/or innovative interpretations of what some other
> > moon or planet could have to offer. Apparently what I have to say
> > about our moon, Venus and Sirius is extremely damaging to their
> > insider cabal that normally get to do as they damn well please, and
> > public funded to boot.
>
> You believe life exists on Venus; you are insane.
Not by the snookered and dumbfounded folks like yourself, because we
>
> > Notice how relentless and devoted the topic/author stalking gets
> > whenever we outsiders start rocking a few of those mainstream boats by
> > offering fresh and/or innovative interpretations of what some other
> > moon or planet could have to offer. Apparently what I have to say
> > about our moon, Venus and Sirius is extremely damaging to their
> > insider cabal that normally get to do as they damn well please, and
> > public funded to boot.
>
> You believe life exists on Venus; you are insane.
all know that if you weren't public funded and protected by others of
your own kind, you couldn't possibly manage to survive here on Earth.
Would you care to prove me wrong?
Greg (Strider) Moore
Jul 25, 2012, 12:12:42 AM7/25/12
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>On Jul 24, 8:23 am, Alan Erskine <alan.erski...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> On 25/07/2012 12:30 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
>>
>> > Apparently going off-world is never going to become a valid option for
>> > us, at least it�s not being allowed to flourish as even a topic here
>On Jul 24, 8:23 am, Alan Erskine <alan.erski...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>> On 25/07/2012 12:30 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
>>
>> > Apparently going off-world is never going to become a valid option for
>> > in Usenet/newsgroups.
>>
>> > Notice how relentless and devoted the topic/author stalking gets
>> > whenever we outsiders start rocking a few of those mainstream boats by
>> > offering fresh and/or innovative interpretations of what some other
>> > moon or planet could have to offer. Apparently what I have to say
>> > about our moon, Venus and Sirius is extremely damaging to their
>> > insider cabal that normally get to do as they damn well please, and
>> > public funded to boot.
>>
>> You believe life exists on Venus; you are insane.
>
>Not by the snookered and dumbfounded folks like yourself, because we
>all know that if you weren't public funded and protected by others of
>your own kind, you couldn't possibly manage to survive here on Earth.
>Would you care to prove me wrong?
No. I also wouldn't waste my time arguing philosophy with a rock. Bot would
>>
>> > Notice how relentless and devoted the topic/author stalking gets
>> > whenever we outsiders start rocking a few of those mainstream boats by
>> > offering fresh and/or innovative interpretations of what some other
>> > moon or planet could have to offer. Apparently what I have to say
>> > about our moon, Venus and Sirius is extremely damaging to their
>> > insider cabal that normally get to do as they damn well please, and
>> > public funded to boot.
>>
>> You believe life exists on Venus; you are insane.
>
>Not by the snookered and dumbfounded folks like yourself, because we
>all know that if you weren't public funded and protected by others of
>your own kind, you couldn't possibly manage to survive here on Earth.
>Would you care to prove me wrong?
be pointless exercises.
Alan is right. You have stated a belief in life on Venus, despite all
evidence to the contrary. Your own supposed evidence was a crock of shit.
You need help. Get some. Do yourself a favor.
Brad Guth
Jul 25, 2012, 12:50:56 AM7/25/12
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On Jul 24, 9:12 pm, "Greg \(Strider\) Moore"
some kind of intelligence involved.
Technically the extremely nearby planet Venus is manageable for truly
intelligent life.
Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon. Go figure
how those continually opposed to anything that isn't insider Oligarch
approved, are also required and/or compelled to topic/author stalk and
bash at this one and at anything else I might have to offer, for all
the Semitic approved hate and disparagement they can muster.
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> >On Jul 24, 8:23 am, Alan Erskine <alan.erski...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >> On 25/07/2012 12:30 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
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> >> > Apparently going off-world is never going to become a valid option for
> >> > us, at least it s not being allowed to flourish as even a topic here
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> >On Jul 24, 8:23 am, Alan Erskine <alan.erski...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >> On 25/07/2012 12:30 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
>
> >> > Apparently going off-world is never going to become a valid option for
> >> > in Usenet/newsgroups.
>
> >> > Notice how relentless and devoted the topic/author stalking gets
> >> > whenever we outsiders start rocking a few of those mainstream boats by
> >> > offering fresh and/or innovative interpretations of what some other
> >> > moon or planet could have to offer. Apparently what I have to say
> >> > about our moon, Venus and Sirius is extremely damaging to their
> >> > insider cabal that normally get to do as they damn well please, and
> >> > public funded to boot.
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> >> You believe life exists on Venus; you are insane.
>
> >Not by the snookered and dumbfounded folks like yourself, because we
> >all know that if you weren't public funded and protected by others of
> >your own kind, you couldn't possibly manage to survive here on Earth.
> >Would you care to prove me wrong?
>
> No. I also wouldn't waste my time arguing philosophy with a rock. Bot would
> be pointless exercises.
>
> Alan is right. You have stated a belief in life on Venus, despite all
> evidence to the contrary. Your own supposed evidence was a crock of shit.
>
> You need help. Get some. Do yourself a favor.
>
>
>
> --
> Greg D. Moore http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/
> CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses.http://www.quicr.net
I've stated that geology that's so unusual and artificial looking had
>
> >> > Notice how relentless and devoted the topic/author stalking gets
> >> > whenever we outsiders start rocking a few of those mainstream boats by
> >> > offering fresh and/or innovative interpretations of what some other
> >> > moon or planet could have to offer. Apparently what I have to say
> >> > about our moon, Venus and Sirius is extremely damaging to their
> >> > insider cabal that normally get to do as they damn well please, and
> >> > public funded to boot.
>
> >> You believe life exists on Venus; you are insane.
>
> >Not by the snookered and dumbfounded folks like yourself, because we
> >all know that if you weren't public funded and protected by others of
> >your own kind, you couldn't possibly manage to survive here on Earth.
> >Would you care to prove me wrong?
>
> No. I also wouldn't waste my time arguing philosophy with a rock. Bot would
> be pointless exercises.
>
> Alan is right. You have stated a belief in life on Venus, despite all
> evidence to the contrary. Your own supposed evidence was a crock of shit.
>
> You need help. Get some. Do yourself a favor.
>
>
>
> --
> Greg D. Moore http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/
> CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses.http://www.quicr.net
some kind of intelligence involved.
Technically the extremely nearby planet Venus is manageable for truly
intelligent life.
Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon. Go figure
how those continually opposed to anything that isn't insider Oligarch
approved, are also required and/or compelled to topic/author stalk and
bash at this one and at anything else I might have to offer, for all
Alan Erskine
Jul 25, 2012, 3:37:05 AM7/25/12
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On 25/07/2012 2:50 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> I've stated that geology that's so unusual and artificial looking had
> some kind of intelligence involved.
>
> Technically the extremely nearby planet Venus is manageable for truly
> intelligent life.
>
> Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
> Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon. Go figure
> how those continually opposed to anything that isn't insider Oligarch
> approved, are also required and/or compelled to topic/author stalk and
> bash at this one and at anything else I might have to offer, for all
> the Semitic approved hate and disparagement they can muster.
You are insane.
> I've stated that geology that's so unusual and artificial looking had
> some kind of intelligence involved.
>
> Technically the extremely nearby planet Venus is manageable for truly
> intelligent life.
>
> Apparently those natural geology rules for the extremely nearby planet
> Venus are entirely different than any other planet or moon. Go figure
> how those continually opposed to anything that isn't insider Oligarch
> approved, are also required and/or compelled to topic/author stalk and
> bash at this one and at anything else I might have to offer, for all
> the Semitic approved hate and disparagement they can muster.
Brad Guth
Jul 25, 2012, 10:27:06 AM7/25/12
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Earth without a substantial amount of ice is not going to remain as a
very good Eden for accommodating ten billion of us. So perhaps we
should be looking for a planet with as little ice as possible, instead
of mostly little frozen to death plants like Mars or of that Titan
moon as having replaced water ice with its methane ice. Of course any
planet having its own unlimited energy that we could easily tap into
would be a perfectly good way of ETs such as us technically adapting
ourselves to a hellish planet like Venus (at least for mining its
mineral treasure-trove of valuable elements).
Supposedly all the compacted snow and ice on Earth is worth only at
most 33.3e6 km3, although at the peak of an ice-age is when that
accumulated amount of compacted snow and ice could have easily been
worth a whopping 100e6 km3.
Instead of the 12,000 year timeline of fast deglaciation, considering
a somewhat faster and flood erosion timeline of 1200 years, whereas
how much applied energy does it take in order to thaw 110 km3/day of
glacial ice with an average volumetric core temperature of 263 K
(that’s going to deliver roughly 4.17e9 tonnes of 275 K fast moving
water per hour)?
Let us suppose that an average of merely 2.74 km3/day or 1000 km3/yr
was the rate of ice buildup. In 48,000 years of Earth becoming much
colder gives us 48e6 km3 of new compacted snow and its glacial ice to
melt back down to the global cache of 33.3e6 km3 that’s still with us
but currently thawing faster than we humans have ever seen.
Supposedly we already got 120 some odd meters of higher ocean level
from this melted ice-age that rather abruptly ended 11,712 BP, and
apparently we’re still gradually thawing out in spite of the fact
being that we’re a good thousand years past due for the next global
cooling trend that doesn’t seem to be performing as historically
scheduled.
In other words, within just 12,000 years we gained 120 meters of
higher ocean levels as derived from roughly 48e6 km3 of melted ice and
compacted snow, and that’s only 4000 km3/year converted back into
water, or 11 km3/day if this rate of thaw were given a full 12,000
years, which doesn’t seem nearly horrific enough to cause such global
erosions as would be the case if using just 1200 years for the vast
bulk of deglaciation, which seems a whole lot more likely for 110 km3/
day to cause the sorts of substantial surface erosion that our geology
has to show us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_regression
"At the height of the last ice age, at around 18000 years before the
present, the global sea level was 120 to 130 meters (400 ft.) lower
than today"
"At the time of the Permian or P/T extinction, the largest extinction
event in the Earth's history, global sea level fell 250 meters, or
more than 800 ft."
Apparently my previous estimate of 150 meters was simply my being
terribly conservative if even suggesting 200 meters. Sorry about
that, whereas a maximum sea level drop of 250 meters has to represent
a great deal of ice that's stored mostly above sea level. An ocean
and lake/sea area of 3.6e14 m2 * 250 = 9e16 m3 or 90e6 km3 of extra
ice and compacted snow that for the most part isn’t floating but
instead packed above sea level, and no doubt at least another 10e6 km3
would have been submerged ice, for a grand total of 100e6 km3.
Here's news of even worse doom and gloom that contributor Warhol
somehow missed:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18978483
"Scientists said the "unprecedented" melting took place over a larger
area that ever detected in three decades of satellite observation.
Melting even occurred at Greenland's coldest and highest place, Summit
station.
The thawed ice area jumped from 40% of the ice sheet to 97% in just
four days from 8 July."
Now that’s an impressive surface area of thawing ice, and the runoff
from such melted ice water should be doing some serious damage on its
way to the sea. By the end of August is when 100% of the Greenland
ice coverage will have been thawing instead of mostly frozen.
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very good Eden for accommodating ten billion of us. So perhaps we
should be looking for a planet with as little ice as possible, instead
of mostly little frozen to death plants like Mars or of that Titan
moon as having replaced water ice with its methane ice. Of course any
planet having its own unlimited energy that we could easily tap into
would be a perfectly good way of ETs such as us technically adapting
ourselves to a hellish planet like Venus (at least for mining its
mineral treasure-trove of valuable elements).
Supposedly all the compacted snow and ice on Earth is worth only at
most 33.3e6 km3, although at the peak of an ice-age is when that
accumulated amount of compacted snow and ice could have easily been
worth a whopping 100e6 km3.
Instead of the 12,000 year timeline of fast deglaciation, considering
a somewhat faster and flood erosion timeline of 1200 years, whereas
how much applied energy does it take in order to thaw 110 km3/day of
glacial ice with an average volumetric core temperature of 263 K
(that’s going to deliver roughly 4.17e9 tonnes of 275 K fast moving
water per hour)?
Let us suppose that an average of merely 2.74 km3/day or 1000 km3/yr
was the rate of ice buildup. In 48,000 years of Earth becoming much
colder gives us 48e6 km3 of new compacted snow and its glacial ice to
melt back down to the global cache of 33.3e6 km3 that’s still with us
but currently thawing faster than we humans have ever seen.
Supposedly we already got 120 some odd meters of higher ocean level
from this melted ice-age that rather abruptly ended 11,712 BP, and
apparently we’re still gradually thawing out in spite of the fact
being that we’re a good thousand years past due for the next global
cooling trend that doesn’t seem to be performing as historically
scheduled.
In other words, within just 12,000 years we gained 120 meters of
higher ocean levels as derived from roughly 48e6 km3 of melted ice and
compacted snow, and that’s only 4000 km3/year converted back into
water, or 11 km3/day if this rate of thaw were given a full 12,000
years, which doesn’t seem nearly horrific enough to cause such global
erosions as would be the case if using just 1200 years for the vast
bulk of deglaciation, which seems a whole lot more likely for 110 km3/
day to cause the sorts of substantial surface erosion that our geology
has to show us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_regression
"At the height of the last ice age, at around 18000 years before the
present, the global sea level was 120 to 130 meters (400 ft.) lower
than today"
"At the time of the Permian or P/T extinction, the largest extinction
event in the Earth's history, global sea level fell 250 meters, or
more than 800 ft."
Apparently my previous estimate of 150 meters was simply my being
terribly conservative if even suggesting 200 meters. Sorry about
that, whereas a maximum sea level drop of 250 meters has to represent
a great deal of ice that's stored mostly above sea level. An ocean
and lake/sea area of 3.6e14 m2 * 250 = 9e16 m3 or 90e6 km3 of extra
ice and compacted snow that for the most part isn’t floating but
instead packed above sea level, and no doubt at least another 10e6 km3
would have been submerged ice, for a grand total of 100e6 km3.
Here's news of even worse doom and gloom that contributor Warhol
somehow missed:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18978483
"Scientists said the "unprecedented" melting took place over a larger
area that ever detected in three decades of satellite observation.
Melting even occurred at Greenland's coldest and highest place, Summit
station.
The thawed ice area jumped from 40% of the ice sheet to 97% in just
four days from 8 July."
Now that’s an impressive surface area of thawing ice, and the runoff
from such melted ice water should be doing some serious damage on its
way to the sea. By the end of August is when 100% of the Greenland
ice coverage will have been thawing instead of mostly frozen.
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Brad Guth
Jul 25, 2012, 10:00:58 AM7/25/12
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Earth without a substantial amount of ice is not going to be a very
terribly conservative. Sorry about that, whereas a maximum sea level
way to the sea.
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drop of 250 meters has to represent a great deal of ice that's stored
mostly above sea level. An ocean and lake/sea area of 3.6e14 m2 * 250
= 9e16 m3 or 90e6 km3 of extra ice and compacted snow that for the
most part isn’t floating but instead packed above sea level, and no
doubt at least another 10e6 km3 would have been submerged ice, for a
grand total of 100e6 km3.
Here's news of even worse doom and gloom that contributor Warhol
somehow missed:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18978483
"Scientists said the "unprecedented" melting took place over a larger
area that ever detected in three decades of satellite observation.
Melting even occurred at Greenland's coldest and highest place, Summit
station.
The thawed ice area jumped from 40% of the ice sheet to 97% in just
four days from 8 July."
Now that’s an impressive surface area of thawing ice, and the runoff
of such melted ice water should be doing some serious damage on its
mostly above sea level. An ocean and lake/sea area of 3.6e14 m2 * 250
= 9e16 m3 or 90e6 km3 of extra ice and compacted snow that for the
most part isn’t floating but instead packed above sea level, and no
doubt at least another 10e6 km3 would have been submerged ice, for a
grand total of 100e6 km3.
Here's news of even worse doom and gloom that contributor Warhol
somehow missed:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18978483
"Scientists said the "unprecedented" melting took place over a larger
area that ever detected in three decades of satellite observation.
Melting even occurred at Greenland's coldest and highest place, Summit
station.
The thawed ice area jumped from 40% of the ice sheet to 97% in just
four days from 8 July."
Now that’s an impressive surface area of thawing ice, and the runoff
way to the sea.
http://groups.google.com/groups/search
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Alan Erskine
Jul 25, 2012, 11:58:30 AM7/25/12
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On 26/07/2012 12:00 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Earth without a substantial amount of ice is not going to be a very
> good Eden for accommodating ten billion of us. So perhaps we should
> be looking for a planet with as little ice as possible, instead of
> mostly little frozen to death plants like Mars or of that Titan moon
> as having replaced water ice with its methane ice. Of course any
> planet having its own unlimited energy that we could easily tap into
> would be a perfectly good way of ETs such as us technically adapting
> ourselves to a hellish planet like Venus (at least for mining its
> mineral treasure-trove of valuable elements).
>
You are insane.
> Earth without a substantial amount of ice is not going to be a very
> good Eden for accommodating ten billion of us. So perhaps we should
> be looking for a planet with as little ice as possible, instead of
> mostly little frozen to death plants like Mars or of that Titan moon
> as having replaced water ice with its methane ice. Of course any
> planet having its own unlimited energy that we could easily tap into
> would be a perfectly good way of ETs such as us technically adapting
> ourselves to a hellish planet like Venus (at least for mining its
> mineral treasure-trove of valuable elements).
>
People don't live on ice, they live on water. It's an easy process to
remove salt from water and can even be done with solar thermal energy
(heat).
Alan Erskine
Jul 25, 2012, 11:59:19 AM7/25/12
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On 26/07/2012 12:27 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Instead of the 12,000 year timeline of fast deglaciation, considering
> a somewhat faster and flood erosion timeline of 1200 years, whereas
> how much applied energy does it take in order to thaw 110 km3/day of
> glacial ice with an average volumetric core temperature of 263 K
> (that�s going to deliver roughly 4.17e9 tonnes of 275 K fast moving
> Instead of the 12,000 year timeline of fast deglaciation, considering
> a somewhat faster and flood erosion timeline of 1200 years, whereas
> how much applied energy does it take in order to thaw 110 km3/day of
> glacial ice with an average volumetric core temperature of 263 K
> water per hour)?
>
You are insane.
Brad Guth
Jul 25, 2012, 11:26:00 PM7/25/12
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Earth without a substantial amount of ice is not going to remain as a
water per hour)?
terribly conservative if even suggesting 200 meters. Sorry about
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2160
The nearby Pine Island Glacier appears set to calve a 900 sq km
iceberg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Island_Glacier
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18959399
In Antarctica are significant portions of large area glacial flows
running at 1+ km/year.
very good Eden for accommodating ten billion of us. So perhaps we
should be looking for a planet with as little ice as possible, instead
of mostly little frozen to death plants like Mars or of that Titan
moon as having replaced water ice with its methane ice. Of course any
planet having its own unlimited energy that we could easily tap into
would be a perfectly good way of ETs such as us technically adapting
ourselves to a hellish planet like Venus (at least for mining its
mineral treasure-trove of valuable elements).
should be looking for a planet with as little ice as possible, instead
of mostly little frozen to death plants like Mars or of that Titan
moon as having replaced water ice with its methane ice. Of course any
planet having its own unlimited energy that we could easily tap into
would be a perfectly good way of ETs such as us technically adapting
ourselves to a hellish planet like Venus (at least for mining its
mineral treasure-trove of valuable elements).
Supposedly all the compacted snow and ice on Earth is worth only at
most 33.3e6 km3, although at the peak of an ice-age is when that
accumulated amount of compacted snow and ice could have easily been
worth a whopping 100e6 km3.
most 33.3e6 km3, although at the peak of an ice-age is when that
accumulated amount of compacted snow and ice could have easily been
worth a whopping 100e6 km3.
Instead of the 12,000 year timeline of fast deglaciation, considering
a somewhat faster and flood erosion timeline of 1200 years, whereas
how much applied energy does it take in order to thaw 110 km3/day of
glacial ice with an average volumetric core temperature of 263 K
(that’s going to deliver roughly 4.17e9 tonnes of 275 K fast moving
a somewhat faster and flood erosion timeline of 1200 years, whereas
how much applied energy does it take in order to thaw 110 km3/day of
glacial ice with an average volumetric core temperature of 263 K
water per hour)?
that, whereas a maximum sea level drop of 250 meters has to represent
a great deal of ice that's stored mostly above sea level. An ocean
and lake/sea area of 3.6e14 m2 * 250 = 9e16 m3 or 90e6 km3 of extra
ice and compacted snow that for the most part isn’t floating but
instead packed above sea level, and no doubt at least another 10e6 km3
would have been submerged ice, for a grand total of 100e6 km3.
Here's news of even worse doom and gloom that contributor Warhol
somehow missed:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18978483
"Scientists said the "unprecedented" melting took place over a larger
area that ever detected in three decades of satellite observation.
Melting even occurred at Greenland's coldest and highest place, Summit
station.
The thawed ice area jumped from 40% of the ice sheet to 97% in just
four days from 8 July."
Now that’s an impressive surface area of thawing ice, and the runoff
a great deal of ice that's stored mostly above sea level. An ocean
and lake/sea area of 3.6e14 m2 * 250 = 9e16 m3 or 90e6 km3 of extra
ice and compacted snow that for the most part isn’t floating but
instead packed above sea level, and no doubt at least another 10e6 km3
would have been submerged ice, for a grand total of 100e6 km3.
Here's news of even worse doom and gloom that contributor Warhol
somehow missed:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18978483
"Scientists said the "unprecedented" melting took place over a larger
area that ever detected in three decades of satellite observation.
Melting even occurred at Greenland's coldest and highest place, Summit
station.
The thawed ice area jumped from 40% of the ice sheet to 97% in just
four days from 8 July."
Now that’s an impressive surface area of thawing ice, and the runoff
from such melted ice water should be doing some serious damage on its
way to the sea. By the end of August is when 100% of the Greenland
ice coverage will have been thawing instead of mostly frozen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKjXKAatiIs
way to the sea. By the end of August is when 100% of the Greenland
ice coverage will have been thawing instead of mostly frozen.
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=2160
The nearby Pine Island Glacier appears set to calve a 900 sq km
iceberg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Island_Glacier
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18959399
In Antarctica are significant portions of large area glacial flows
running at 1+ km/year.
Alan Erskine
Jul 25, 2012, 11:52:41 PM7/25/12
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On 26/07/2012 1:26 PM, Brad Guth wrote:
> Earth without a substantial amount of ice is not going to remain as a
> very good Eden for accommodating ten billion of us.
> Earth without a substantial amount of ice is not going to remain as a
> very good Eden for accommodating ten billion of us.
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