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Jonathan

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Dec 15, 2009, 8:22:23 PM12/15/09
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Another start-up!

Space Energy Inc

"The company plans to develop SBSP satellites to generate
and transmit electricity to receivers on the Earth's surface.
To do this, the company plans to create and launch a
prototype satellite into low earth orbit (LEO)."

"After the prototype has been successfully demonstrated,
the company will enter into power supply contracts with
customers and launch larger-scale, commercial-strength
satellites."

http://www.spaceenergy.com/s/Default.htm


Androcles

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Dec 15, 2009, 8:48:34 PM12/15/09
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"Jonathan" <Ho...@Again.net> wrote in message
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> Another start-up!
>
> Space Energy Inc
>
> "The company plans to develop SBSP satellites to generate
> and transmit electricity to receivers on the Earth's surface.
> To do this, the company plans to create and launch a
> prototype satellite into low earth orbit (LEO)."

Imagine that (IT)! LEO means low Earth orbit (LMEO)!
If "Space Energy Inc" had a fuckin' clue they'd sue
the childish journalist (ISEIHAFCTSTCJ).


Jonathan

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Dec 15, 2009, 9:10:59 PM12/15/09
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Space Energy Inc's technical advisors.
This start up looks like the real thing.


Ralph Nansen

Ralph Nansen is the founder and president of Solar Space
Industries and the former head of the Solar Satellite Division
for Boeing. He started as a designer on the Bomarc rocket-
powered missile, and in 1961 was selected to develop the
initial configuration used by Boeing in their successful bid to
design and build the giant first stage of the Saturn V moon
rocket.


Dr. Larry DeLucas

Dr. DeLucas is a former shuttle astronaut and the former
Chief Scientist for the International Space Station and is
currently the Director of the CBSE. The CBSE consists of 115
scientists and engineers involved in a number of scientific research
activities (structural biology and pharmaceutical development)
as well as space product development for NASA and the
International Space Station.


Mike Snead

Project Engineer for the Air Force Transatmospheric Vehicle
project, Chief Flight Systems Engineer and Lead Structures
Engineer for the National Aerospace Plane/X-30 Joint Program
Office, and Government Technical Consultant for the BMDO
Delta Clipper Experimental (DC-X) Single-Stage Rocket program.
In 2007, Mr. Snead led the space logistics assessment of space
solar power in support of the National Security Space Office's study
"Space-based Solar Power as an Opportunity for Strategic Security."


Dr. William Gaubatz

Dr. Gaubatz, Senior Advisor, X PRIZE Foundation, is a pioneer
and leader in program and concept developments that have impacted
national programs and policies, leading the way to today's Personal
Spaceflight Industry. At McDonnell Douglas, he originated and managed
the development of the Delta Clipper reusable Spaceplane concept.
His Delta Clipper Experimental programs (DC-X and DC-XA)
proved through flight, that aircraft like operations could be routinely
achieved for Spaceplanes. He was an originating founder of
Universal Space Lines, Inc

Dr. Richard Dickinson

Mr. Dickinson is one of the world's foremost experts on Wireless Power
Transmission (WPT). President of OFF EARTH-WPT, a Wireless
Power Transmission business.

Mr. Dickinson was Group Supervisor of the High-Power Transmitter
Group at Goldstone and was NASA's microwave power transmission
specialist on the Solar Power Satellite Reference System team.
He investigated the technology for the microwave power
transmission link of the NASA-DOE proposed Satellite Power
System (SPS) as the wireless power transmission specialist on the
NASA study team.

Charles Radley

Charles F. Radley is the President/CEO of the Stratowave Corporation,
and Vice President of The Moon Society. He was a contributor to the
2007 Dept of Defense NSSO) report on Space Based Solar power.

Charles worked on the Galileo and Magellan space probes, Space Station Freedom,
Spacelab-MSL-1 and several communications satellite projects (e.g. Intelsat-6,
Olympus, Marecs, Inmarsat-2, BSB/HS-376, JCSat, HS-601). Also, he worked
on the Trailblazer commercial lunar orbiter project.
http://www.spaceenergy.com/s/TechnicalAdvisors.htm


http://www.spaceenergy.com/s/TechnicalAdvisors.htm


eric gisse

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Dec 15, 2009, 10:45:57 PM12/15/09
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Jonathan wrote:

> Another start-up!
>
> Space Energy Inc
>
> "The company plans to develop SBSP satellites to generate
> and transmit electricity to receivers on the Earth's surface.
> To do this, the company plans to create and launch a
> prototype satellite into low earth orbit (LEO)."

How many square kilometers of satellite are desired? Lenz drag + drag drag
make a bad idea worse.

>
> "After the prototype has been successfully demonstrated,
> the company will enter into power supply contracts with
> customers and launch larger-scale, commercial-strength
> satellites."

How many dollars per kWh?

>
> http://www.spaceenergy.com/s/Default.htm

jonnie

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Dec 16, 2009, 1:51:08 PM12/16/09
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"Jonathan" <Ho...@Again.net> wrote in message
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It will take more energy to get the stuff into space, than it will ever be
able to beam back.

How can they get insurance if the beam walks off and roasts Seattle ??


Greg D. Moore (Strider)

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Dec 16, 2009, 5:07:22 PM12/16/09
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"jonnie" <nos...@spamless.com> wrote in message
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>
> It will take more energy to get the stuff into space, than it will ever be
> able to beam back.
>
> How can they get insurance if the beam walks off and roasts Seattle ??
>

Neither of these are true.

--
Greg Moore
Ask me about lily, an RPI based CMC.


Pat Flannery

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Dec 17, 2009, 2:36:48 AM12/17/09
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Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:

> Neither of these are true.

The beam could also have this wild invention called a "Off Switch".

pat

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David Spain

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Dec 17, 2009, 3:42:11 PM12/17/09
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OK, here goes...

Bill Gates, no Paul Allen, decides he's through paying electric bills
to keep his pool heated in his $x million dollar mansion.

So instead of a giant SPS, we instead go the micro SPS route.
Anyone getting that Iridium deja-vu?

If you're rich enough, maybe you invest in a constellation of micro-SPSs
in LEO that only produces say 100kW of output. Enough to power a goodly sized
house or maybe a small business or maybe hmm just maybe a battalion-sized
command post?

For slightly more $$$ you can put that small powersat in GEO and save a
ton of complexity in the receiving antenna...

Just another random thought...

Dave

Pat Flannery

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Dec 17, 2009, 9:52:23 PM12/17/09
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David Spain wrote:
>
> If you're rich enough, maybe you invest in a constellation of micro-SPSs
> in LEO that only produces say 100kW of output. Enough to power a goodly sized
> house or maybe a small business or maybe hmm just maybe a battalion-sized
> command post?

And until you hit the production and launch costs of those satellites
and realize that it equals your current electrical bill for around the
next 500 years...

Pat

Sylvia Else

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Dec 17, 2009, 8:03:31 PM12/17/09
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Still, the existing solar power industry relies on the fact that many
people won't do that kind of calculation, and that of those that do,
many will get the wrong answer because they don't use discounted cash flow.

Sylvia.

David Spain

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Dec 17, 2009, 11:38:32 PM12/17/09
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Pat Flannery <fla...@daktel.com> writes:

Well let's think about that for a sec. Sure it's way hell expensive.
Too expensive for commercial application, but military, hmmm.

What if a powersat could be made small enough to piggy back on an
intel sat or comm sat launch? Now you're not launching JUST the
powersat alone, but amortizing across the launch of a sat you were
going to spend the $$$ to launch anyway.

I can think of a few places in the asia-minor area where there
might be a need for a remote command post to be able to get electricity
where having the fuel brought in for a generator is a very risky proposition
indeed. But if I can erect a rectenna on the spot, no need for a high risk
supply line to rely upon, or the need to construct an airstrip or risk
frequent helo trips in and out. Thus once I've gone to the expense of
putting up the bird, the incremental cost is nearly zilch, assuming I get
some life out of the bird. Put up just 3 of these in GEO and I can call down
electrical power from nearly any spot on the planet (except high latitudes)
with efficiency being worse in high latitudes than along the equator.

What the hell, since it's all rampant speculation anyway, why not just call
them Zeus I-II-III?

How big would a powersat have to be to supply 15kW, 50kW or 100kW?
Could it piggback with the ELVs available today or perhaps the EELVs
of tomorrow?

Dave

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BradGuth

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Dec 21, 2009, 11:07:10 PM12/21/09
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As a prototype (similar to those first Stirling solar energy
conversions) If they manage to get 10% as much energy as they hope
for, that's still a technology worth pursuing.

~ BG

~ BG

BradGuth

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Dec 21, 2009, 11:17:32 PM12/21/09
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On Dec 16, 10:51 am, "jonnie" <nos...@spamless.com> wrote:
> "Jonathan" <H...@Again.net> wrote in message

It's called R&D. There are risks, some spendy, others lethal.

If our government had promoted a few TW worth of thorium fueled
reactors as of decades ago, we wouldn't have to fool around with such
spendy and risky methods.

~ BG

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