This is Completely OT
John Beaderstadt
to hear about my wife's shopping adventures. This one has absolutely
nothing to do with space history, but I think it's extraordinary enough
to post, for those interested. If you're not, back out while you can.
Now, some spoiler space for those who don't want to deal with this:
So, a new Staples (an American office-supply chain) held a grand opening
yesterday in the next town over. My wife has always wanted us to have a
complete home office and, now that she looks to stand a good chance of
being elected to the state legislature, the idea actually makes some
sense. We left there with the car stuffed to the gills: a two-drawer;
full-access filing cabinet; a phone-fax machine; a paper shredder; a
flatbed scanner, and a cell phone for her to carry in her purse. Between
Grand Opening special deals, manufacturers' coupons, mail-in rebates and
Andrea's bargaining, we not only got all this stuff for free, we are
realizing an actual profit of $90.00!
--
"I tried to imagine the easiest way God could have done it."
--Albert Einstein
Greg D. Moore
John Beaderstadt wrote:
>
> Andrea's bargaining, we not only got all this stuff for free, we are
> realizing an actual profit of $90.00!
>
John, where do you live and can I move there?
Or better yet, can your wife move here? We need some more fiscal
responsibility like that.
Heck, I'll nominate your wife to replace Goldin. With here each shuttle
flight would only not cost taxpayers $250 million, but would probably
return a profit!
Dubya
Well, my wife won a seat in the Connecticut state legislature. She
started staying in Hartford longer and later. Then she ended up
shacking up with a "home-boy" to save on commuting. Keep 'em barefoot,
pregnant, and in the kitchen, I say
John Beaderstadt
> John, where do you live and can I move there?
>
> Or better yet, can your wife move here? We need some more fiscal
> responsibility like that.
You're somewhere around Albany, NY, right? Well, I'm up across from Rouses
Point, in Alburg, VT. Since Andrea has to remain in Vermont if she wins the
election, you'd have to move here. With both sons in the military, we have
plenty of room; also, it's only a four-hour drive from Albany, and you could
go home on weekends. :-)
P.S. If anybody on the West Coast is reading this, I'd like to form a
partnership for collecting the commemorative state quarters. I can supply
Philadelphia coins in exchange for Denver issues.
OM
<be...@together.net> wrote:
>P.S. If anybody on the West Coast is reading this, I'd like to form a
>partnership for collecting the commemorative state quarters. I can supply
>Philadelphia coins in exchange for Denver issues.
...Actually, I always felt that the coins should have been done with
the size of the denominations matching the size and importance of the
state. Texas and Alaska get the Ike Dollar - a coin that deserves to
be resurrected, dammit! - while Rhode Island gets the soon-to-be
minted .025 cent piece :-./
OM
Phil McRevis
This has absolutely no place being on sci.space.history; please use
some self restraint and stick to the subject matter of the group's
charter.
--
<http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/> Legalize Adulthood!
``Ain't it funny that they all fire the pistol,
at the wrong end of the race?''--PDBT
<http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/who/>
Julian Bordas
>
> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
>
> This has absolutely no place being on sci.space.history; please use
> some self restraint and stick to the subject matter of the group's
> charter.
> --
I beg to differ. The subject line states that this is off topic. So if
you don't want to read it don't.
Who voted you net cop?
--
Julian Bordas
Linux newbie since 1995
John Beaderstadt
virtually never contribute to this group, so don't have much of a stake
in it.
John Beaderstadt
Phil McRevis
Julian Bordas <jbo...@biogate.com> spake the secret code
<39BD7958...@biogate.com> thusly:
>I beg to differ. The subject line states that this is off topic. So if
>you don't want to read it don't.
This is the same reasoning that says labelling spam solves the spam
problem. He knew what he was posting wasn't appropriate for this
newsgroup but he did it anyway. That makes his behavior even less
forgiveable. Newsgroups have charters and guidelines describing what
is appropriate subject matter for the individual groups.
You may object to charters, guidelines and the general structure of
usenet, but that is the way it works. The occasional thread that
wanders off topic doesn't bother me, but when people start using a
newsgroup as a general dumping ground for whatever they want to talk
about rather than searching for the appropriate group, that bothers
me.
>Who voted you net cop?
I'm a reader of sci.space.history and when I have something on topic
to post I add it here. The fact that you drag out that tired old
pejorative of "net cop" just because I object to Beaderstat's willing
and premeditated gross abuse of the newsgroup charter doesn't add
weight to the argument that charters should be ignored.
If I wanted to play "cop", I'd have arrested his behavior by
cancelling his post, your post and the entire thread with forged
cancel messages.
Phil McRevis
John Beaderstadt <be...@together.net> spake the secret code
<39BD9317...@together.net> thusly:
>Excuse me, but who are you? Looking in Deja, it appears that you
>virtually never contribute to this group, so don't have much of a stake
>in it.
That's because I have enough self control to restrict my postings to
sci.space.history to relevant items.
Correctness of one's point has no correlation to frequency of posting,
unless you're only trying to find popularity arguments as a
justification for your flagrant abuse of the group's charter.
nancy g.
> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
[Oh, I wouldn't think of it.]
> That's because I have enough self control to restrict my postings to
> sci.space.history to relevant items.
>
> Correctness of one's point has no correlation to frequency of posting,
> unless you're only trying to find popularity arguments as a
> justification for your flagrant abuse of the group's charter.
I think it's time *somebody* switched to decaf.
Christopher M. Jones
I for one like hearing about his wife's magical
buying abilities.
His post was in no way disruptive to this newsgroup.
Your complain about his post, however, was disruptive.
Julian Bordas
Hear hear.
John is a frequent poster to this news group. I like to hear what he
has to say even if it is of topic.
Thanks to Om I know about kill files and Phil is in mine
Plonk.
Justin Wigg
news:39BDA77D...@biogate.com...
> Hear hear.
>
> John is a frequent poster to this news group. I like to hear what he
> has to say even if it is of topic.
>
> Thanks to Om I know about kill files and Phil is in mine
>
> Plonk.
Jeez, calm down everyone. Phil has a right to protest if he wants.
--
He who laughs last... | Justin Wigg - Hobart, AUSTRALIA
...thinks slowest. | Reply: justi...@yahoo.com
OM
<justi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>"Julian Bordas" <jbo...@biogate.com> wrote in message
>news:39BDA77D...@biogate.com...
>
>> Hear hear.
>>
>> John is a frequent poster to this news group. I like to hear what he
>> has to say even if it is of topic.
>>
>> Thanks to Om I know about kill files and Phil is in mine
>>
>> Plonk.
>
>Jeez, calm down everyone. Phil has a right to protest if he wants.
...Woahwoahwoah! Actually, Phill's a pretty reasonable guy at times,
even if he has gotten on my bad side once. I think it's his being a
limey that allows his tone to get a little off kilter, so to speak.
He's contributed a good deal to this group, and that keeps him out of
my killfile.
...As a favor to me, Julian, Phill, both you guys be a little more
flexible in this one. You both contribute to this group, and besides,
Beady's big enough to defend himself.
Doesn't mean I don't get to have fun defending him anyway...
OM
wolfshadow4
news:8pk4nm$l4t$1...@xmission.xmission.com...
Sorry, Phil, but I'm finding your E-mail far more boring than those
off-topic ones...
... part of the fun of this group are the personalities involved- and
learning a bit about some of them outside of the space arena can be
interesting.
I found the endless discussions of computers and which were good or bad a
while back incredibly boring, it's not my thing, but I wouldn't presume to
tell people to stop discussing it!
OM
wrote:
>Phil McRevis wrote:
>> That's because I have enough self control to restrict my postings to
>> sci.space.history to relevant items.
...Whoops! Looks like I wasn't paying attention like I usually do.
That wasn't Phill that everyone was bitching about, it was Phil
McRevis, who *is* in my killfile for reasons I've totally forgotten
about. My apologies, Phill with two "L's" to his name.
Nevermind, Julian. Have at the dragon, and return him to his hole
properly smited!
>I think it's time *somebody* switched to decaf.
...May have to be me at this point, Nance. Can't believe I saw that
extra "L" there. What I get for watching "ID4" while posting. Mea
culprit!
OM
OM
<be...@together.net> wrote:
>Excuse me, but who are you? Looking in Deja, it appears that you
>virtually never contribute to this group, so don't have much of a stake
>in it.
...Hear hear! The old addage of "lurkers can't be choosers" still
applies, natch.
OM
OM
<jbo...@biogate.com> wrote:
>Phil MRCVSs wrote:
>>
>> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
>>
>> This has absolutely no place being on sci.space.history; please use
>> some self restraint and stick to the subject matter of the group's
>> charter.
>> --
>
>I beg to differ. The subject line states that this is off topic. So if
>you don't want to read it don't.
>
>Who voted you net cop?
...I sure as hell didn't, and I *am* a net.cop. Self-appointed, too.
OM
OM
<wolfs...@email.msn.com> wrote:
...Since the Wolif was so kind as to repost this idiot's rantings, I
guess I'll have to respond accordingly:
>"Phil McRevis" <legaliz...@mail.xmission.com> wrote in message
>news:8pk4nm$l4t$1...@xmission.xmission.com...
> I'm a reader of sci.space.history and when I have something on topic
> to post I add it here. The fact that you drag out that tired old
> pejorative of "net cop" just because I object to Beaderstat's willing
> and premeditated gross abuse of the newsgroup charter doesn't add
> weight to the argument that charters should be ignored.
In order:
1) Lurkers don't count. You either contribute to a newsgroup, or
you're a leech.
2) Again, who made you net.cop? Damn sure wasn't me.
> If I wanted to play "cop", I'd have arrested his behavior by
> cancelling his post, your post and the entire thread with forged
> cancel messages.
...Actually, as self-appointed net.cop around here, I hereby invoke
this punishment on you. Then again, you're in my killfile already,
which means your messages are cancelled as far as I am concerned. Say
hi to Andy for me while you're down there, eh?
OM
John Beaderstadt
> That's because I have enough self control to restrict my postings to
> sci.space.history to relevant items.
Maybe Deja is wrong, but it appears the only times you have posted is to
tell me to shut up, or to justify telling me to shut up. It therefore
appears that your sole "contribution" to this group has been an attempt to
control it.
As to relevance, many of us are the original members of this group; others
are not so old, but find the atmosphere here to be agreeable, and we have
developed our own relationships. This group is, as it were, our corner pub
and we are its oldest and most regular customers (some of us are even the
building's architects). Our common interest is space history, but we have
also developed interests in each other and in each others' activities. Some
of us have developed fairly strong friendships (and enmities). One way or
another, we care about each other.
You are welcome to listen in, you are even welcome to add your own comments.
Over time, you might even be welcomed as an insider. However, that will
never happen if you expect to just barge in and take over. If a particular
conversation doesn't interest you, and especially if it is plainly marked as
something you don't care about, move to another table.
If nothing else, I certainly wouldn't take it amiss if you just put me in
your killfile; since you apparently find my posts so objectionable, I wonder
that you haven't already done so. I am not putting you in mine, at least for
the moment, because I want to see whether you, yourself, will eventually
post something of interest to the rest of us.
John Beaderstadt
> Jeez, calm down everyone. Phil has a right to protest if he wants.
That depends, Justin. See my earlier (by a few minutes) post to Phil that
contains the "corner pub" analogy.
Phil McRevis
John Beaderstadt <be...@together.net> spake the secret code
<39BE1BAD...@together.net> thusly:
>Maybe Deja is wrong, but it appears the only times you have posted is to
>tell me to shut up, or to justify telling me to shut up.
Since I've been keeping copies of articles I post, here is a list of
the posts I've made to sci.space.history:
195 29-Apr-1999*> sci.space.history Re: Launch Vehicle Failures<< kracatoa@h
228 20-May-1999 > sci.space.history Re: Dr. von Braun and the German Rocket
333 07-Jun-1999 > sci.space.history Re: DC-XA<< "Edward Lyons" <Edward.Lyons
335 07-Jun-1999 > sci.space.history Re: DC-XA<< "Michael P. Walsh" <mp_walsh
349 09-Jun-1999 > sci.space.history Re: DC-XA<< moo...@greenms.com spake th
356 09-Jun-1999 > sci.space.history Re: DC-XA<< Graham Nelson <graham@gnelso
357 09-Jun-1999 > sci.space.history Re: DC-XA<< "Michael P. Walsh" <mp_walsh
364 09-Jun-1999 > sci.space.history Re: DC-XA<< "Michael P. Walsh" <mp_walsh
379 10-Jun-1999 > sci.space.history Re: DC-XA<< cbin...@netcom.com (Craig B
380 10-Jun-1999 > sci.space.history Re: DC-XA<< Graham Nelson <graham@gnelso
399 11-Jun-1999 > sci.space.history Re: DC-XA<< "Michael P. Walsh" <mp_walsh
412 15-Jun-1999 > sci.space.history Re: DC-XA<< he...@spsystems.net (Henry S
413 15-Jun-1999 > sci.space.history Re: DC-XA<< Graham Nelson <graham@gnelso
430 21-Jun-1999 > sci.space.history Re: Mars Global Surveyor Was Faked<< flu
438 23-Jun-1999 > sci.space.history Re: DC-XA<< "Michael P. Walsh" <mp_walsh
522 25-Jul-1999 > sci.space.history What was wrong with the F-1 engine?<< Wh
530 25-Jul-1999 > sci.space.history Re: What was wrong with the F-1 engine?<
536 26-Jul-1999 > sci.space.history Re: What was wrong with the F-1 engine?<
537 26-Jul-1999 > sci.space.history Re: What was wrong with the F-1 engine?<
574 31-Jul-1999 > sci.space.history Re: Could the shuttle be converted?<< Gr
662 01-Sep-1999 > sci.space.history Re: CARL SAGAN: POTHEAD<< cattlovrr@eart
937 09-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history Re: Info about cost of Mars mission<< "T
973 16-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history Re: Survival In a Vacuum Possible?<< "Ju
977 16-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history Re: Survival In a Vacuum Possible?<< "Ju
980 16-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history Re: Survival In a Vacuum Possible?<< "Ju
989 17-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history,s Re: Red China to the Red Planet?<< "~{UT
990 17-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history,s Re: Anti-Western Democratic China to the
996 18-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history,s Re: Red China to the Red Planet?<< "~{UT
997 18-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history,s Re: Anti-Western Democratic China to the
1002 19-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history,s Re: Anti-Western Democratic China to th
1003 19-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history,s Re: Anti-Western Democratic China to th
1004 19-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history,s Re: Anti-Western Democratic China to th
1010 20-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history Re: Moon Rock Pulled From Auction Websi
1019 20-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history,s Re: Red China to the Red Planet?<< om@R
1020 20-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history Re: Moon Rock Pulled From Auction Websi
1026 20-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history,s Re: Anti-Western Democratic China to th
1031 23-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history,s Re: Anti-Western Democratic China to th
1032 23-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history,s Re: Anti-Western Democratic China to th
1037 28-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history,s Re: Anti-Western Democratic China to th
1038 28-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history,s Re: Anti-Western Democratic China to th
1053 28-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history,s Re: Anti-Western Democratic China to th
1054 28-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history Re: Why it will never be the same<< "Ne
1076 30-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history Re: USING ISS TO GO TO MARS ?<< "David
1077 30-Dec-1999 > sci.space.history,s Re: Anti-Western Democratic China to th
1099 05-Jan-2000 > sci.space.history Re: Grissom killed? UFO buffs and his f
1100 05-Jan-2000 > sci.space.history Re: Realism in 2001?<< jlerch@geocities
1107 06-Jan-2000 > sci.space.history Re: Realism in 2001?<< henry@spsystems.
1113 06-Jan-2000 > sci.space.history Re: Realism in 2001?<< "New Mexico Resi
1117 07-Jan-2000 > sci.space.history Re: Realism in 2001?<< "New Mexico Resi
1127 07-Jan-2000 > sci.space.history Re: Beta Testers Needed<< "HR" <howardr
1130 08-Jan-2000 > sci.space.history Re: Realism in 2001?<< "New Mexico Resi
1332 15-Feb-2000 > sci.space.history Re: Rusty Schweikart, hippie _and_ kook
1336 16-Feb-2000 > sci.space.history Re: Rusty Schweikart, hippie _and_ kook
1337 16-Feb-2000 > sci.space.history Re: Rusty Schweikart, hippie _and_ kook
1343 17-Feb-2000 > sci.space.history Re: Rusty Schweikart, hippie _and_ kook
1384 25-Feb-2000 > sci.space.history Re: Rusty Schweikart, hippie _and_ kook
1520 23-March > sci.space.history Re: The Gigaversary is coming - a Major S
1723 08-May > sci.space.history Applying new techniques to old data?<< [P
1730 11-May > sci.space.history Re: Applying new techniques to old data?<
1736 12-May > sci.space.history Article/book on history of Chinese space
1798 24-May > sci.space.history Re: Murray and Cox, What's the big Deal?<
1917 05-July > sci.space.history Re: Status of Chinese space program?<< [P
1918 05-July > sci.space.history Re: reliability (was Re: Status of Chines
1924 07-July > sci.space.history Re: More Murray and Cox Madness<< [Please
1928 07-July > sci.space.history Could Mars have been seeded by Earth aste
1931 10-July > sci.space.history Re: More Murray and Cox Madness<< [Please
1939 10-July > sci.space.history Re: More Murray and Cox Madness<< [Please
1940 11-July > sci.space.history Re: More Murray and Cox Madness<< [Please
1957 19-July > sci.space.history Re: More Murray & Cox<< [Please do not ma
2099 11:13 Mon > sci.space.history Re: This is Completely OT<< [Please do no
2113 20:34 Mon > sci.space.history Re: This is Completely OT<< [Please do no
2114 20:35 Mon > sci.space.history Re: This is Completely OT<< [Please do no
Only the last handfull or so (including this thread) have been
anything related to "telling you to shut up". Of course, the more you
feel that sci.space.history is the place to talk about your wife's
shopping habits, the more that fraction will increase. If you don't
want to hear me telling you to use appropriate newsgroups for your
posts, then use appropriate newsgroups for your posts.
rk
> This has absolutely no place being on sci.space.history; please use
> some self restraint and stick to the subject matter of the group's
> charter.
The message above contributes nothing to this newsgroup. If you wish to
have good manners and object to a post, you may e-mail the poster
directly. It is rather obnoxious to post a message criticizing a
message to the whole world. I post this message to the whole world.
Lastly,
I support your right to criticize.
I support Beady's right to babble about his wife.
I prefer Beady's babbling about his wife to your worthless criticism.
Post follow-ups to net.nonsense.gestapo.nothing.better.to.do
rk
rk
> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
>
> John Beaderstadt <be...@together.net> spake the secret code
> <39BE1BAD...@together.net> thusly:
>
> >Maybe Deja is wrong, but it appears the only times you have posted is to
> >tell me to shut up, or to justify telling me to shut up.
>
> Since I've been keeping copies of articles I post, here is a list of
> the posts I've made to sci.space.history:
>
> 195 29-Apr-1999*> sci.space.history Re: Launch Vehicle Failures<< kracatoa@h
> 2114 20:35 Mon > sci.space.history Re: This is Completely OT<< [Please do no
< snip rather length list of postings >
> Only the last handfull or so (including this thread) have been
> anything related to "telling you to shut up". Of course, the more you
> feel that sci.space.history is the place to talk about your wife's
> shopping habits, the more that fraction will increase. If you don't
> want to hear me telling you to use appropriate newsgroups for your
> posts, then use appropriate newsgroups for your posts.
Apparently Beady is in error, you did do a lost of postings. Taking a look at
this, it suggests that your posts are not very memorable and the only thing that he
remembers you saying is to shut up.
I'd lighten up some.
He labelled his post off-topic.
Simply depress 'k' if you are using Netscape and kill the thread.
I support Beady's right to babble.
I support your right to post pseudo-legalistic net.gestap.who.cares babble and make
yourself look like a major league rententive asshole.
I support Beady's right to stick up for himself and continue interesting posts.
If I were you, I'd find something more serious to complain about. There is no
shortage of valid things to complain about. If you want to babble about charters
and all, go ahead. Have fun. Make yourself feel good.
All those in favor of Beady's right to babble say Aye.
All those against, say Nay.
I say Aye.
Have a nice evening,
rk
Phil McRevis
rk <stel...@nospamplease.erols.com> spake the secret code
<39BEB2EA...@nospamplease.erols.com> thusly:
>The message above contributes nothing to this newsgroup.
It reminds the readers and potential posters of this group that there
is a charter delineating what's considered acceptable subject matter.
rk
*********************
Huh?
> <39BEB2EA...@nospamplease.erols.com> thusly:
>
> >The message above contributes nothing to this newsgroup.
>
> It reminds the readers and potential posters of this group that there
> is a charter delineating what's considered acceptable subject matter.
Then we agree, it contributes nothing to this newsgroup.
I support Beady's right to babble.
rk
P.S. Perhaps, as a public service, you could post on a regular basis, a
reminder delineating what's considered acceptable subject matter. This
should be done under a single thread, posted by responding to the
previous message. This will promote happiness and efficiency. You will
be happy since you will be making what you think is a contribution to the
newsgroup. It will promote efficiency since I can totally eliminate that
worthless babble by depressing a lower case k on my keyboard. Faster,
Better, Cheaper! We'll get all three!
Justin Wigg
news:39BEB507...@nospamplease.erols.com...
> All those in favor of Beady's right to babble say Aye.
Aye.
John Beaderstadt
> Since I've been keeping copies of articles I post, here is a list of
> the posts I've made to sci.space.history:
As I said, I was just going by what came up on a Deja author-newsgroup search.
Since, for whatever reason, your name is almost completely unfamiliar to me, this
seemed a valid procedure. As it is, I stand corrected; I never claim infallibility,
so I don't have a problem admitting it.
As for your list, why would anyone want to keep such a thing? And to keep it handy
enough to whip out at a moment's notice?
> If you don't
> want to hear me telling you to use appropriate newsgroups for your
> posts, then use appropriate newsgroups for your posts.
I guess it is I who will have to resort to a killfile. Not my favorite solution,
but effective.
Andy
Aye uh...aye uh....oh, aye don't know....
Jesus Phil, if you're going to blow chinks over OT posts, I can think of at
*least* one other individual here who is a much more deserving candidate for
your ire....
Andy
"Gee, I thought we'd be a lot higher at MECO!"
[Steve Hawley, STS 41-D pad abort, 1984]
rk
> << > All those in favor of Beady's right to babble say Aye. >>
>
> Aye uh...aye uh....oh, aye don't know....
Ummm ... I keeping score. It looks like this is either 1/2 of an Aye or you
have a cold.
==========================
> Jesus Phil, if you're going to blow chinks over OT posts, I can think of at
> *least* one other individual here who is a much more deserving candidate for
> your ire....
Now. Now. No parallel flames in a subthread. I'm just sure that's also in the
Constitution of Usenet. I just gotta be.
:-)
rk
Julian Bordas
> All those in favor of Beady's right to babble say Aye.
>
Aye
> All those against, say Nay.
Deafening silence
Julian Bordas
>
> << > All those in favor of Beady's right to babble say Aye. >>
>
> Aye uh...aye uh....oh, aye don't know....
>
> Jesus Phil, if you're going to blow chinks over OT posts, I can think of at
> *least* one other individual here who is a much more deserving candidate for
> your ire....
>
Only one :-)
OM
<justi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>"rk" <stel...@nospamplease.erols.com> wrote in message
>news:39BEB507...@nospamplease.erols.com...
>
>> All those in favor of Beady's right to babble say Aye.
>
>Aye.
...Seconded and passed.
OM
OM
<jbo...@biogate.com> wrote:
>Andy wrote:
>>
>> << > All those in favor of Beady's right to babble say Aye. >>
>>
>> Aye uh...aye uh....oh, aye don't know....
...Of course, this comes as no surprise.
>> Jesus Phil, if you're going to blow chinks over OT posts, I can think of at
>> *least* one other individual here who is a much more deserving candidate for
>> your ire....
...Aren't you supposed to be dead or something? Of course, if he is,
then this probably means Andy can vote twice in this election.
>Only one :-)
...Oh, Andy's got his hate list somewhere. Wish he had the balls to
post it, just so everyone could see who he doesn't like.
OM
OM
<be...@together.net> wrote:
>As for your list, why would anyone want to keep such a thing? And to keep it handy
>enough to whip out at a moment's notice?
...Ego.
>I guess it is I who will have to resort to a killfile. Not my favorite solution,
>but effective.
...Yup. So long as he doesn't get quoted, it works just fine.
OM
OM
<stel...@nospamplease.erols.com> wrote:
>Post follow-ups to net.nonsense.gestapo.nothing.better.to.do
...Hmm. Wasn't that what we called news.admins before the reorg? :-P
OM
Phil McRevis
rk <stel...@nospamplease.erols.com> spake the secret code
<39BEB507...@nospamplease.erols.com> thusly:
>He labelled his post off-topic.
This is my point exactly. He knew he was abusing the charter of the
group and went ahead and did it anyway. Labelling one's offense ahead
of time doesn't excuse the offense.
>I support Beady's right to babble.
I don't care if he babbles or not, he should just use an appropriate
forum for it; sci.space.history isn't that forum.
>All those in favor of Beady's right to babble say Aye.
>
>All those against, say Nay.
The charter was voted on at the time the group was created; babbling
wasn't included in the charter.
rk
> rk <stel...@nospamplease.erols.com> spake the secret code
*********************
kinda geeky, eh?
> >He labelled his post off-topic.
>
> This is my point exactly. He knew he was abusing the charter of the
> group and went ahead and did it anyway. Labelling one's offense ahead
> of time doesn't excuse the offense.
I don't consider his post offensive nor do I consider it abusive. By the
way, do you call the cops everytime you see someone exceeding the speed
limit on the highway? Do you roll down the window and criticize them for
being a mile over the speedlimit? Do you call the hall monitor every time
you see someone chewing gum on line?
Actually, judging from the responses here, it looks like Beady's babble is
well accepted by the group and your babble is not. See, it's the
Internet. You're both free to babble. That's why I like the Internet.
Of course, I'm just babbling here, as I take a break analyzing data sets,
something that I am free to do. Babble. Babble. Babble.
============================================
> >I support Beady's right to babble.
>
> I don't care if he babbles or not, he should just use an appropriate
> forum for it; sci.space.history isn't that forum.
Yup, it is. He babbles about his wife's great shopping, including
sci.space.history books. And, well, most of us at least, are all friends
here. Are you going to vote for Mrs. Beady? This forum is not a
peer-reviewed, archival, snotty and stuffy journal publication. Beady
considers it the corner bar or something like that. Me, I don't really
drink, I regard it as the water cooler.
He can go on babbling about his wife all he wants to as far as I am
concerned. I consider the Beady Babble (BB) posts rather considerate as
they are clearly labelled.
Now, who am I? Why am I here? Well, I have an interest in space. I have
been growing an interest in space history, in particular the engineering
of the electronics and early computers/digital circuits. I am also here
to have fun. There's a very good group of people here and we hope to get
together and have a convention. I can assure you, at the convention, we
hope you won't go around giving out cards for people babbling. I do not
wish to be sentenced to "time out." Also, for the convention, I hold the
exclusive rights to the sci.space.history.survivor.steel.cage event, for
which you are now a contestant, along with a group of others.
Additionally, OM will be the Seargent-at-arms for the convention. So, we
shall include you in group events 'cause we're an inclusive, friendly
bunch. Even when there's fighting, it's one big, happy, fucked up family.
Just like real life!
=========================================
> >All those in favor of Beady's right to babble say Aye.
> >All those against, say Nay.
>
> The charter was voted on at the time the group was created; babbling
> wasn't included in the charter.
This is the Internet. We can vote on whatever we want to vote on.
So far you're getting creamed. Even Dubya is having a better week getting
votes.
So it goes.
rk
p.s. Please be considerate and mindful of the Charter. OK, now where is
the charter? Is it on the same server as the FAQ? Does anyone really
care? Is Anal Retentivity an allowed topic under the Charter?
p.s. Please be considerate and post followups to
net.anal.retentive.go.away.now.
============
OK, that was fun, back to work,
OM
<stel...@nospamplease.erols.com> wrote:
>Phil "Killfile Inmate #412" McRevis wrote:
>
>> rk <stel...@nospamplease.erols.com> spake the secret code
>
> *********************
> kinda geeky, eh?
...The type of basic spam blocking attempt taken by an utter moron
with his head *and* a corncob up his ass. IMHO, natch.
>> The charter was voted on at the time the group was created; babbling
>> wasn't included in the charter.
...Oh. I see. If it's not specifically listed in the charter, then it
can't be discussed here. Ok, then since this entire thread isn't
specifically allowed by that same charter, you yourself are out of
line here by your own stringent - read: viewed with head and corncob
up your ass - guidelines.
>So far you're getting creamed. Even Dubya is having a better week getting
>votes.
...To be honest, if he were running against George Lincoln Rockwell
for the chairmanship of the NAACP, Rockwell would be getting far more
votes at this stage in his popularity spin doctoring. I don't think
he'd even qualify for a one-way trip to Chernobyl for a theraputic
trip into the damaged reactor itself.
>So it goes.
...and in his case, straight to hell for all I care.
>p.s. Please be considerate and mindful of the Charter. OK, now where is
>the charter? Is it on the same server as the FAQ?
...That's not funny, rk :-P
>Is Anal Retentivity an allowed topic under the Charter?
...Actually, I seem to recall pat once claiming that it was in
.policy's charter. Perhaps Phil would be more welcome there.
OM
Andy
> then this probably means Andy can vote twice in this election. >>
{sigh}, the bullshit never stops, does it.......?
John Beaderstadt
> I don't know if this is too sophisticated (shouldn't be for this bunch of
> would-be rocket scientists)...
It's not too sophisticated, but maybe too formal. Seems to me that on-topic posts
needn't be labeled. As for filtering, I'll read at least one post of any thread
whose subject sounds interesting, then "k" it if it disappoints.
> ... which means monitoring the
> arrival of newbies (and sending them a "welcome" email)
"OM's Welcome Wagon." :-)
> Dealing with spammers has also been something dealt with by the afp
> clique.
I kind of like our present "system" of gang-banging them. Fun and games for all.
OM
<be...@together.net> wrote:
>David Sander wrote:
>> ... which means monitoring the
>> arrival of newbies (and sending them a "welcome" email)
>
>"OM's Welcome Wagon." :-)
...Irony time: I'm currently watching "Animal House", and the parade
scene is on while I'm typing this. My welcome wagon is what's inside
the cake float :-/
P<
OM
<be...@together.net> wrote:
>While I appreciate the support, it's probably time to move on. I've killfiled
>Phil and so will never be bothered by him again;
...Yes, and PLEASE people, don't make the stupid mistake I did. That's
"Phil", with one "L", that you should be giving the heave-ho to!
OM
rk
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 00:42:37 -0400, rk
> <stel...@nospamplease.erols.com> wrote:
>
> >Phil "Killfile Inmate #412" McRevis did thusly babble:
> >
> >> rk <stel...@nospamplease.erols.com> spake the secret code
> > *********************
> > kinda geeky, eh?
>
> ...The type of basic spam blocking attempt taken by an utter moron
> with his head *and* a corncob up his ass. IMHO, natch.
Again, you prove your superiority with the use of the English language. I am
afraid I am not fluent in multiple languages and am only a reasonable writer in
early dialects of Pascal. Thank you very much for appropriately describing the
situation, creating the proper powerful image economically, using just a few
words.
===========================================
> >So it goes.
>
> ...and in his case, straight to hell for all I care.
Hmmm ... so far no one got the reference for the "So it goes" quote. I guess
no one suspected that I was actually able to read. :-)
============================================
> >p.s. Please be considerate and mindful of the Charter. OK, now where is
> >the charter? Is it on the same server as the FAQ?
>
> ...That's not funny, rk :-P
Had to sneak that one in there to see if you're reading this subthread.
And it was, at least a little bit, funny. <seg>
==============================================
> >Is Anal Retentivity an allowed topic under the Charter?
>
> ...Actually, I seem to recall pat once claiming that it was in
> .policy's charter. Perhaps Phil would be more welcome there.
I think Phil needs to relax. To do this, he should ___________________.
Now, obviously, there are many possible ways to relax and, as a family unit of
sorts here, perhaps we can help His Highnessness out by making suggestions.
So, in addition to voting on the right to Beady Babble, please make your
suggestions as to a good method for Phil to relax and just in general chill
out. You may e-mail me and I will post your suggestion if you wish to remain
anonymous. Please, let's help the Big P.
rk
John Beaderstadt
you at least "k" the related threads. Too bad, really; I'd had a good
experience and wanted to share it with friends. Judging from everyone else's
responses, both here and email, several of you enjoyed hearing about it.
Unless I hear objections from the regulars, I'll post updates as they occur,
plainly labeled as OT.
BTW, it might help if we amend the charter to specifically allow
plainly-labelled OT posts. Any discussion?
John Beaderstadt
> ...Aren't you supposed to be dead or something? Of course, if he is,
> then this probably means Andy can vote twice in this election.
"Vote Early, Vote Often."
Andy
just so everyone could see who he doesn't like. >>
Ah, grasshoppah, since you'rein my killfile, I don't read your posts and I'm
therefore not really replying to this message. Of course, you're applying the
same policy to my posts, now aren't ya?
Howevah, my list is very short. In fact, it only contains two letters....
rk
> BTW, it might help if we amend the charter to specifically allow
> plainly-labelled OT posts. Any discussion?
I would be against any effort spent on nonsense like amending the charter for The
Right To Babble.
I would be for any effort spent on things like outlawing
Anal.Retentive.Net.Gestapo.Nothing.Better.To.Do posts.
Just my $0.02,
rk
P.S. Long live the English measurement system.
OK, I think I've offended enough people for one e-mail; don't want to out do OM.
:-)
David Sander
> While I appreciate the support, it's probably time to move on. I've killfiled
> Phil and so will never be bothered by him again; I suggest that the rest of
> you at least "k" the related threads. Too bad, really; I'd had a good
> experience and wanted to share it with friends. Judging from everyone else's
> responses, both here and email, several of you enjoyed hearing about it.
> Unless I hear objections from the regulars, I'll post updates as they occur,
> plainly labeled as OT.
>
> BTW, it might help if we amend the charter to specifically allow
> plainly-labelled OT posts. Any discussion?
I frequent a newsgroup called alt.fan.pratchett (dedicated to British fantasy
author Terry Pratchett) and it has got to be the best organized newsgroup I have
ever encountered.
It is unmoderated, but frequented by a clique of dedicated a.f.p. denizens, who
take care of newbies (emailing them a welcome to the group and the URL for a
site which has the FAQs plus a whole pile of Pratchett-relevant stuff as well),
maintain the FAQs, delicately admonish breachers of NG etiquette and netiquette,
and steer those less experienced ones to relevant websites covering whichever
subject is at hand whenever an enquiry is made.
Rather than being a discussion group for Pratchett's work, it is more of a
social group with the common thread of appreciating Pratchett's work, which is
why many postings have in-jokes, and Pratchett-specific references even though
the post may have nothing to do with Pratchett. There are the occasional
Pratchett relevant posts, but these threads can evolve into irrelevant topics,
and they wander off exploring whole new uncharted territories of Usenet
imagination.
All posts have a tag in their subject line. The convention used for tagging is
very simple:
[R] - for posts relevant to Pratchett's work (i.e. a question regarding a book
or character etc)
[I] - Irrelevant to Pratchett (this could be about *anything*)
[G] - for games questions / discussions
[M] - Meta-thread - technical questions about the newsgroup itself, including
issues like tagging
[ANNOUNCE] - An official announcement of some (usually) Pratchett-related event
[FAQ] - the official NG FAQs, which are reposted about once a week by one of the
clique to help remind regulars, and assist newbies.
Given the traffic in afp is very high (one of the highest I've ever
encountered), this sort of organizing makes a lot of sense.
The way I'd adapt it for s.s.h. is:
[R] - "Relevant" - for posts relevant to space *history* - this includes
technical, philosophical, political or cultural discussions or questions;
[C] - "Current" - for posts more relevant to current space issues (shuttle, ISS,
Mir, etc);
[I] - "Irrelevant" to either space history or current space issues (the
equivalent of OT);
[M] - "Meta" - technical questions or discussions about the organization of the
NG itself, e.g. issues like tagging, weblinks;
[N] - "News" - for announcements (like meets, or auction items or books/videos
becoming available etc) or posts made to sci.space.news, and cross-posted to
s.s.h.
[FAQ] - the official NG FAQs, reposted once a week or fortnight to help remind
regulars and assist newbies.
This is just an idea, and I'd invite anyone who's interested to go and have a
look at alt.fan.pratchett to see for themselves just how successful it is. I
mean, there are those who forget to tag, but repliers usually correct that (or
make outraged noises in responses). It's also a neat way to filter posts, as one
can set one's newsreader to display only [R]-tagged posts or [R] and [C] only
etc etc.
I don't know if this is too sophisticated (shouldn't be for this bunch of
would-be rocket scientists), but it *does* require someone to accept a role of
responsibility in managing it and maintaining it - which means monitoring the
arrival of newbies (and sending them a "welcome" email), maintaining a website
for hosting the FAQs, which can also have links to websites hosted by NG
regulars or other sites of interest, and generally being there to field [M]
enquiries. Dealing with spammers has also been something dealt with by the afp
clique.
There's no law that makes everyone *having* to adhere to it - this is something
agreed to by popular consensus and maintained the impetus of general courtesy -
disregarding or ignoring it should not be considered a stoning (or killfile)
offence - just a breach of NG etiquette.
I *know* it means having to think a little before composing a subject line, but
it might be considered helpful given the potential diversity of topics that
could be discussed in this NG. It would also allow the opening up of a wider
repertoire when it comes to those who frequent here - a place which has a
similar atmosphere to afp in many ways (an NG likened to a friendly pub, where
one can wander in, have a pint, pull up a chair, and join in on many and varied
topics of conversation). Having a tag system will enable people to do that,
while at the same time enable those who want "just the facts" to filter out all
that leaving them to concentrate on pure, on-topic postings.
Just a thought <stirs dust with toe of shoe ... looks sheepish> you don't have
to if you don't want to.
David
Cheryl Martin
>
>BTW, it might help if we amend the charter to specifically allow
>plainly-labelled OT posts. Any discussion?
There is no procedure to amend newgroup charters. Besides, charters
are guidelines and not The Law. It's the newsgroup regulars that shape
the character of the group and decide what constitutes on or off
topic posting.
So there.
Cheryl
(who supports Beady's right to babble)
--
% Cheryl L Martin zof...@deepthot.org %
% List Mistress: Arizona Poly List, Denver Poly List %
% Moderator: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated, soc.personals %
% Grumpy Witch http://www.geocities.com/grumpywitch %
OM
wrote:
>John Beaderstadt <be...@together.net> said:
>
>>
>>BTW, it might help if we amend the charter to specifically allow
>>plainly-labelled OT posts. Any discussion?
>
>There is no procedure to amend newgroup charters. Besides, charters
>are guidelines and not The Law. It's the newsgroup regulars that shape
>the character of the group and decide what constitutes on or off
>topic posting.
...Two points:
1) One of the facts about the lack of procedures regarding charter
revisions and amendments is that nobody back in the dawn of Usenet
ever figured the net was going to either last as long or grow as big
as it did. Hence, no contingency plans, as everyone back then sort of
figured that by the time changes might need to be made, something
bigger and better would come along and replace the college geek's
playground.
Boy, how shortsighted we kids were back then. I wonder if Vint had any
clue as to what he'd wrought...
2) On the other hand, just because there's no provisions for charter
revision doesn't mean it still can't be revised. A rule of thumb is to
follow the same guidelines as newsgroup creation - 100 vote majority
in favor of creation, with at least 100 votes minimum having been
cast.
...Not that we really need a charter revision, mind you. We just need
to philfile kill...I mean, killfile Phil groupwide and that should
solve the problem.
>So there.
...You tell'em, Cheryl.
OM
Paul Blay
<SNIP>
> 2) On the other hand, just because there's no provisions for charter
> revision doesn't mean it still can't be revised. A rule of thumb is to
> follow the same guidelines as newsgroup creation - 100 vote majority
> in favor of creation, with at least 100 votes minimum having been
> cast.
<SNIP>
No, wait! I say if there is a 100 vote majority in favour we shouldn't
have to enforce the 100 votes minimum having been cast ;-)
Julian Bordas
> Thank you, Julian.
>
You're welcome. It's odd how your friends and acquaintances will rally
to your defence if need be. :-)
I remember on one occasion a few years ago when some poor sod got
stuck into Henry Spencer. Henry did not respond, he did not need to.
The regulars to this ng plastered the aforesaid poor sod 8 ways from
Sunday.
I have enjoyed the many positive responses you have received on this
topic. I need all the laughs I can get at work nowadays :-)
Regards
Julian
Julian Bordas
> On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 15:09:51 +1000, "Justin Wigg"
> <justi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >"Julian Bordas" <jbo...@biogate.com> wrote in message
> >news:39BDA77D...@biogate.com...
> >
> >> Hear hear.
> >>
> >> John is a frequent poster to this news group. I like to hear what he
> >> has to say even if it is of topic.
> >>
> >> Thanks to Om I know about kill files and Phil is in mine
> >>
> >> Plonk.
> >
> >Jeez, calm down everyone. Phil has a right to protest if he wants.
>
> ...Woahwoahwoah! Actually, Phill's a pretty reasonable guy at times,
> even if he has gotten on my bad side once. I think it's his being a
> limey that allows his tone to get a little off kilter, so to speak.
>
A Limey!! Oh my God you mean like a Pom! Oh shit. They can't even play
cricket any more. Oh God no this is a disaster. So Phil is British!! Oh
damn What do I do? get rid of my Brit passport and just use the skippy one
or the Magyar one !!
>
>
> ...As a favor to me, Julian, Phill, both you guys be a little more
> flexible in this one. You both contribute to this group, and besides,
> Beady's big enough to defend himself.
>
Hang on OM being nice!! Who faked his headers?
BTW where is the FAQ?
Julian Bordas
I grew up where they make Bulmers cider.
Julian Bordas
>
> So far you're getting creamed. Even Dubya is having a better week getting
> votes.
I'm just curious exactly what is a 'home boy' The only reference I have is
'Homey the Clown' from 'In living Colour'
Julian
Julian Bordas
>
>
> Cheryl
> (who supports Beady's right to babble)
> --
> % Cheryl L Martin zof...@deepthot.org %
> % List Mistress: Arizona Poly List, Denver Poly List %
I don't know why, but when I see the monker 'mistress' In think of whips
and chains etc. Must be the English race memory or something.
Julian
What was Chicon 2000 like? I did Chicon V many years ago.
John Beaderstadt
> I need all the laughs I can get at work nowadays :-)
Well, you can imagine me sitting in front of the TV for the next two weeks,
naked but for my "USA" Olympics baseball cap with the Australian Olympics
pin, suffering from sleep deprivation and beer intake. That should cheer
you right up.
OM
<jbo...@biogate.com> wrote:
>rk wrote:
>
>>
>> So far you're getting creamed. Even Dubya is having a better week getting
>> votes.
>
>I'm just curious exactly what is a 'home boy' The only reference I have is
>'Homey the Clown' from 'In living Colour'
...The term comes from ebonics/ghettospeak, and originally was a
detrimental referrence to a male caucasian who stayed at home most
nights because he was a sexless geek and couldn't get laid if he paid
for it. Sounds like Andy, yes. In the past decade or so, the term has
mutated into referring not derogatorially to whites, but as a term of
semi-endearment or positive recognition to any male associate who
either lives in the speaker's area of origin, current domiscile, or
previously lived in either.
...In other words, it's changed in the same way that "nigger" has
become "nigga".
yOMamma
OM
<jbo...@biogate.com> wrote:
>Hang on OM being nice!! Who faked his headers?
...Read the followups. I saw two L's in Phil, where there was only
one. The above was retracted and replaced accordingly.
>BTW where is the FAQ?
...Speaking of killfile fodder...
OM
Cheryl Martin
>Cheryl Martin wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Cheryl
>> (who supports Beady's right to babble)
>> --
>> % Cheryl L Martin zof...@deepthot.org %
>> % List Mistress: Arizona Poly List, Denver Poly List %
>
>and chains etc. Must be the English race memory or something.
Hmmm...that is very interesting. I, of course, would never have
thought of such a connotation when I came up with my sig. *innocent look*
>What was Chicon 2000 like? I did Chicon V many years ago.
Dunno. Wasn't able to go...moving right before, owning two houses and
Jay having a heart attack lead us to the conclusion that perhaps we
shouldn't go to Chicon. From all reports, it was a good con with a
few quirks here and there...like all of the science panels overflowed
the space alloted.
We will be at the Millennium Philcon and ConJose, though (okay,
barring any weirdness and I really, really hope that we've used up our
allotment of weirdness for the decade).
Cheryl
Cheryl Martin
>Julian Bordas wrote:
>
>> I need all the laughs I can get at work nowadays :-)
>
>Well, you can imagine me sitting in front of the TV for the next two weeks,
>naked but for my "USA" Olympics baseball cap with the Australian Olympics
>pin, suffering from sleep deprivation and beer intake. That should cheer
>you right up.
It certainly worked for me!
Cheryl
<giggling>
David Sander
> John Beaderstadt <be...@together.net> said:
> >Julian Bordas wrote:
> >
> >> I need all the laughs I can get at work nowadays :-)
> >
> >Well, you can imagine me sitting in front of the TV for the next two weeks,
> >naked but for my "USA" Olympics baseball cap with the Australian Olympics
> >pin, suffering from sleep deprivation and beer intake. That should cheer
> >you right up.
>
> It certainly worked for me!
I dunno - the best I got was a vaguely horrified rictus (probably being asked
to picture a naked man is what's done it)...
David
John Beaderstadt
> I dunno - the best I got was a vaguely horrified rictus (probably being asked
> to picture a naked man is what's done it)...
Was it the "naked" part, or the baseball cap and beer?
Just curious.
John Beaderstadt
> ...and
> Jay having a heart attack lead us to the conclusion that perhaps we
> shouldn't go to Chicon.
Did I miss something? How's he doing?
Cheryl Martin
>Cheryl Martin wrote:
>
>> ...and
>> Jay having a heart attack lead us to the conclusion that perhaps we
>> shouldn't go to Chicon.
>
>Did I miss something? How's he doing?
Oh. I thought I mentioned it pretty widely. He's fine. He returned
to work a week or so ago. The heart attack was actually induced at
the dr's office during a stress test. Jay was in the hospital for about
5 days. He underwent angioplasty and had two stents installed.
Follow-up visit to the cardiologist (a different one than the one who
induced the heart attack, btw) is next week.
Cheryl
David Sander
> David Sander wrote:
>
> > I dunno - the best I got was a vaguely horrified rictus (probably being asked
> > to picture a naked man is what's done it)...
>
> Was it the "naked" part, or the baseball cap and beer?
>
> Just curious.
Probably all of it (but mostly the naked part I guess).
David
OM
Mehring <m...@gmx.net> wrote:
>Phil is right with requesting a more on-topic approach. Case settled.
...Request, yes. Demand with derision and attitude, no.
OM
Julian Bordas
> I dunno - the best I got was a vaguely horrified rictus (probably being asked
> to picture a naked man is what's done it)...
>
> David
Oh David, you live in Sydney!! The San Francisco of the south. Haven't
you seen the Gay & Lesbian Mardi Gras?
--
Julian Bordas
Linux newbie since 1995
Julian Bordas
> >BTW where is the FAQ?
>
> ...Speaking of killfile fodder...
>
> OM
On a serious note is there a FAQ somewhere?
David Sander
> David Sander wrote:
>
> > I dunno - the best I got was a vaguely horrified rictus (probably being asked
> > to picture a naked man is what's done it)...
> >
> > David
>
> Oh David, you live in Sydney!! The San Francisco of the south. Haven't
> you seen the Gay & Lesbian Mardi Gras?
It's difficult to miss, but I do my best.
It's not my scene to be sure, though a lot of revenue for local businesses is
generated by it, so it gains more and more popular support every year, in spite of
the bible-belters and their prayers for rain.
I'm not sure how John might take being associated with the Mardi Gras, though...
David
rk
> On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:58:15 -0400, rk <stel...@nospamplease.erols.com>
> wrote:
>
> >All those in favor of Beady's right to babble say Aye.
> >All those against, say Nay.
> >I say Aye.
>
> I say "what wrong with you, folks". Could everybody please get back to
> sensible-mode and drop such odd strawpolls? Beady is right with posting
> community-related stuff, Phil is right with requesting a more on-topic
> approach. Case settled.
>
> Geez, kids these days... :)
Yeah, kids, we're having some fun. All of the Right to Babble posts are in
fun. Relax. Enjoy. Sit back and giggle.
What's-his-name came across as a pompous ass telling everyone what to do, NO
CHEWING GUM ON LINE BECAUSE THE RULES SAY SO. Beady's post was marked OT
and it appears the entire crowd minus 1 doesn't mind and many enjoy them.
So, just relax and have some fun. That's what it's all about.
By the way, for YOUR complaint, please note that this thread is clearly
marked OT.
:-)
Have some fun today,
Please,
Try.
rk
John Beaderstadt
> I'm not sure how John might take being associated with the Mardi Gras, though...
Well, I consider myself a liberal, but I do have limits. :-)
John Beaderstadt
> On a serious note is there a FAQ somewhere?
I believe the closest we came to having one was when we decided(?)
against compiling a set of standard answers for the conspiracy/ufo folk.
John Beaderstadt
> Oh. I thought I mentioned it pretty widely. He's fine. He returned
> to work a week or so ago.
Good. I don't think anyone wishes one of those on a person.
> Follow-up visit to the cardiologist (a different one than the one who
> induced the heart attack, btw) is next week.
Sounds like a good idea.
Jorge R. Frank
>
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:17:58 -0400, John Beaderstadt <be...@together.net>
> wrote:
>
> >[...], suffering from sleep deprivation and beer intake.
>
> If your suffering from beer intake I suggest trying a different brand.
>
> (Though I'm not so sure about those beer-like liquids over there in the US
> actually being a reasonable base for chosing alternatives... :)
If you stick to the mass-market swill, I agree. But the US has enjoyed
an explosion of brewpubs and microbreweries over the last decade, and
most places carry a good variety of imports as well.
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>
>Last changed pretty much exactly three years ago (which is *ages* in
>net.terms...).
>
Which is sad, because there are a lot of valid topics that don't
require updating every two hours or so.
D.
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David Sander
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:42:17 -0400, John Beaderstadt <be...@together.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Julian Bordas wrote:
> >> On a serious note is there a FAQ somewhere?
> >I believe the closest we came to having one was when we decided(?)
> >against compiling a set of standard answers for the conspiracy/ufo folk.
>
> No, the closest are actually the ancient ruins of OM's try at:
> http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4061/
> Last changed pretty much exactly three years ago (which is *ages* in
> net.terms...).
And the links to the FAQ pages don't actually work...
:-(
David
Peter Smith
"John Beaderstadt" <be...@together.net> wrote in message
news:39C20C35...@together.net...
> Cheryl Martin wrote:
>
> > Oh. I thought I mentioned it pretty widely. He's fine. He returned
> > to work a week or so ago.
>
> Good. I don't think anyone wishes one of those on a person.
>
> > Follow-up visit to the cardiologist (a different one than the one who
> > induced the heart attack, btw) is next week.
>
> Sounds like a good idea.
Better having it in the Dr's office than eg driving down the freeway or
something...
That first Dr may have saved a life.
Just my $0.02
- Peter
John Beaderstadt
> (Though I'm not so sure about those beer-like liquids over there in the US
> actually being a reasonable base for chosing alternatives... :)
Remember, I live in NW Vermont, about an hour south of Montreal. I tend to
drink Canadian suds (Labatt Blue).
OM
<sur...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>> No, the closest are actually the ancient ruins of OM's try at:
>> http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4061/
>> Last changed pretty much exactly three years ago (which is *ages* in
>> net.terms...).
>
>And the links to the FAQ pages don't actually work...
...Here's the shocker: That page isn't supposed to be up anymore.
Geoshitties claimed it was trashed when they erroneously cancelled my
account there, and purged the pages.
<Sigh>It figures. I'll have to see if I can get on that site and nuke
the remainders...
OM
Cheryl Martin
But it wasn't necessary to continue the stress test to the point of
heart attack to ascertain that Jay's heart wasn't functioning
properly. If he'd sent Jay over for an angiogram instead of insisting
on using drugs to run his heart rate up, that would have saved Jay's
life just as surely. And it would have also saved a lot of wear and
tear on MY heart.
The Dr's behaviour afterwards towards Jay and me and many other
factors played into the switch to a new cardiologist.
OM
wrote:
>The Dr's behaviour afterwards towards Jay and me and many other
>factors played into the switch to a new cardiologist.
...Now you know why they call it "practicing" medicine.
OM
David Sander
> On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 04:52:07 GMT, David Sander
> <sur...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>
> >> No, the closest are actually the ancient ruins of OM's try at:
> >> http://www.geocities.com/Area51/4061/
> >> Last changed pretty much exactly three years ago (which is *ages* in
> >> net.terms...).
> >
> >And the links to the FAQ pages don't actually work...
>
> ...Here's the shocker: That page isn't supposed to be up anymore.
> Geoshitties claimed it was trashed when they erroneously cancelled my
> account there, and purged the pages.
>
> <Sigh>It figures. I'll have to see if I can get on that site and nuke
> the remainders...
Is this going to be in light of replacing it with something new, somewhere
else?
David
Peter Smith
> The Dr's behaviour afterwards towards Jay and me and many other
> factors played into the switch to a new cardiologist.
>
> --
Confidence in your medical people is of course a big factor in the recovery
process. Best wishes to you and your family.
- Peter
Julian Bordas
> Julian Bordas wrote:
>
> > I need all the laughs I can get at work nowadays :-)
>
> Well, you can imagine me sitting in front of the TV for the next two weeks,
> naked but for my "USA" Olympics baseball cap
What happened to the Australian Olympivs baseball cap? You didn't sell uit on
e-bay Did you?
John Beaderstadt
> What happened to the Australian Olympivs baseball cap? You didn't sell uit on
> e-bay Did you?
No, no! But face it; as long as I'm naked, there's only so much I can do. I've got
the Aussie pin on my USA hat, and I'm drinking Canadian beer; what can I do with
the Aussie hat? Or, if I were wearing the Aussie hat, what would I do with the pin
and how would I root for the USA?
Julian Bordas
>
> Julian Bordas wrote:
>
> > What happened to the Australian Olympivs baseball cap? You didn't sell uit on
> > e-bay Did you?
>
> No, no! But face it; as long as I'm naked, there's only so much I can do. I've got
> the Aussie pin on my USA hat, and I'm drinking Canadian beer; what can I do with
> the Aussie hat? Or, if I were wearing the Aussie hat, what would I do with the pin
> and how would I root for the USA?
>
Root Aus colloquialism To engage in reproductive activity ie sexual
intercourse.
As in "Didja getta root lasnight?"
> --
> "I tried to imagine the easiest way God could have done it."
> --Albert Einstein
--
Doug...
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>
> All those in favor of Beady's right to babble say Aye.
Aye.
Doug
Doug...
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>
> What was Chicon 2000 like? I did Chicon V many years ago.
Since I lived in Chicago for ~20 years, ran the Hugo ceremony at Chicon 3,
know the chair of Chicon 2000, the bid committee was co-chaired by the
husband of my ex-wife (it's a LONG story), but I didn't manage to get to
Chicon 2000, I can still say that it ran pretty well, from the reports I've
gotten from my ex. As always, the worst craziness happened about 2 weeks
before the con started, trying to get everything ready...
Doug