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Francis Marion

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Apr 19, 2003, 8:51:24 PM4/19/03
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I've looked in the FAQ for this group and could not find any info on this
subject.

As far as I can tell with my limited knowledge and reference material it
appears that the Cuff Checklists where first used on Apollo 14.

Were they on 13's suits?

I've seen no images showing them on 11 or 12.

Does anyone have any other info on this subject?

Thanks,
Francis Marion


David Sander

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Apr 19, 2003, 9:39:11 PM4/19/03
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The first lunar landing Apollo 11 had cuff checklists that were printed
onto beta cloth and sewn onto the gauntlet flap of the lunar outer glove.

For Apollo 12 and onwards, the cuff checklists became a bit more
complex, and so were printed onto flame retardant pages, spiral bound
and attached to the outer glove by a strap.

In Andy Chaikin's "A Man on the Moon" there is an illustration of one
page of the Apollo 12 cuff checklist, and there is special reference to
them in the Apollo 12 episode of "From the Earth to the Moon" TV series.

The cuff checklists included not just required lunar surface activity
timelines, but also detailed diagrams, EMU malfunction procedures, and
don/doff procedures.


David

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Doug...

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Apr 20, 2003, 2:56:00 AM4/20/03
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In article <3EA1FA3D...@bigpond.net.au>, sur...@bigpond.net.au
says...
>
> <snip>

>
> For Apollo 12 and onwards, the cuff checklists became a bit more
> complex, and so were printed onto flame retardant pages, spiral bound
> and attached to the outer glove by a strap.

Indeed, so. In fact, the cuff checklists were designed with a slight
top-to-bottom curve in the spiral spine and the cards themselves. That
made the checklists stay open and flat in a gravity environment that
might have made that difficult, otherwise.

> In Andy Chaikin's "A Man on the Moon" there is an illustration of one
> page of the Apollo 12 cuff checklist, and there is special reference to
> them in the Apollo 12 episode of "From the Earth to the Moon" TV series.

Yep -- a very special reference... *grin*...

> The cuff checklists included not just required lunar surface activity
> timelines, but also detailed diagrams, EMU malfunction procedures, and
> don/doff procedures.

I had a great concept for an electronic cuff checklist for Shuttle/ISS
EVAs that I still think would work quite well. The concept was basically
PDA-like, with an LCD screen formatted into a good checklist layout.
Easy-to-use-in-gloves tabs would let you quickly call up any checklist
loaded into the unit, including MAL procedures. And the unit could be
programmed via data files and docking units from either the ground or a
workstation in the orbiter or ISS. Too bad I never filed for a patent...
*sigh*...

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Mike Flugennock

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Apr 20, 2003, 6:27:12 PM4/20/03
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You mean, something that's sort of like the kind of digital/video CCD cuff
book shown in the image at:
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/mars/marsactivities/html/s95_01566.html

...likely more easily discernible in image
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/mars/marsactivities/html/s95_01566.html
...or, even better in image
http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/mars/marsactivities/hires/s95_01566.jpg
(but look out; it's 7mb)

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Doug...

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Apr 21, 2003, 12:51:37 AM4/21/03
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In article <president-200...@paste.sinkers.org>, president@the-
dma.org says...

> Message 3 in threadFrom: Doug... (dvan...@mn.rr.com)
>
> <snip>

>
> I had a great concept for an electronic cuff checklist for Shuttle/ISS
> EVAs that I still think would work quite well. The concept was basically
> PDA-like, with an LCD screen formatted into a good checklist layout.
> Easy-to-use-in-gloves tabs would let you quickly call up any checklist
> loaded into the unit, including MAL procedures. And the unit could be
> programmed via data files and docking units from either the ground or a
> workstation in the orbiter or ISS. Too bad I never filed for a patent...
> *sigh*...
>
> --
>
> You mean, something that's sort of like the kind of digital/video CCD cuff
> book shown in the image at:
> http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/mars/marsactivities/html/s95_01566.html
>
> ...likely more easily discernible in image
> http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/mars/marsactivities/html/s95_01566.html
> ...or, even better in image
> http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/mars/marsactivities/hires/s95_01566.jpg
> (but look out; it's 7mb)

Yep -- very much like that. Although the digital cuff book pictured in
this artist's conception only has three buttons, which might be too few
for the actual interface needs of such a device.

This is one reason why I said I was sorry I never patented the idea,
since I came up with it sometime in the early 1980's. At that time the
technology probably wasn't up to the kind of thing I was envisioning, but
nowadays it's essentially just a specially formatted PDA.

Homer J. Fong

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Aug 11, 2003, 5:09:58 PM8/11/03
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In article <gamoa.532626$3D1.294799@sccrnsc01>, Francis Marion
<elsa...@attbi.com> wrote:

This page:

http://www.myspacemuseum.com/bootglove.htm

purports to show Apollo 13 training, and they're using a cuff
checklist, but it's hard to tell from the pic is that's actually either
Jim or Fred.

Bah, wait a minute...I just found:

http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a13/images13.html

search for "cuff" -- that same pic comes up, and according to NASA,
it's Fred.


HJF

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