Space "exploration" news: Oscar-winning composer Goldsmith dies
dave schneider
it...didn't quite get my post off on Friday.
/dps
Heard this on ATC, IIRC, but this excerpt is from
<http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/07/22/obit.goldsmith.ap/>
Thursday, July 22, 2004 Posted: 10:58 AM EDT (1458 GMT)
LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Academy Award-winning composer Jerry
Goldsmith, who created the memorable music for scores of classic
movies and television shows ranging from the "Star Trek" and "Planet
of the Apes" series to "The Man from U.N.C.L.E." and "Dr. Kildare,"
has died. He was 75.
[...additional text in article]
David Sander
Awww CRAP!
I was going to invite him to look at doing the soundtrack to MCS when
the time came.
He did some great stuff, too - a truly talented composer. My favourite
film soundtrack by him is Ridley Scott's "Legend" (European cut - not
the awful US cut).
*sigh*
David
--
per aspera ad astra
OM
<sur...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>I was going to invite him to look at doing the soundtrack to MCS when
>the time came.
...Yeah, he would have been perfect. Might I suggest Christopher
Franke, who did B5? His 5th season "Coda" tracks for the departure
scenes are, IMHO, some of the most apropos, tear-jerking memoriam
pieces ever done for TV.
And, as most of us will strongly urge here, do *not* even think of
talking to James Horner. Unless you want the same soundtrack as all
the other movies he cheaply scores by simply randomly mixing the same
soundtrack he did for this one lame-assed Roger Corman knockoff of
"Seven Samurai"...:-P :-P
>He did some great stuff, too - a truly talented composer. My favourite
>film soundtrack by him is Ridley Scott's "Legend" (European cut - not
>the awful US cut).
...The problem with "Legend" was that the studios wanted something
along the lines of an "MTV Movie of the Week", which is why the
soundtrack became nothing more than a Bryan Ferry quick'n'dirty
paycheck vehicle. What makes it even more sickening is that the
version he did for the movie was the worst one, and that of the four
or five versions he's done since it's only the latest one with a
noticeably faster beat that actually works.
OM
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Ami Silberman
"OM" <om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_research_facility.org> wrote
in message news:8g4cg09o4ogkam8hv...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 02:54:24 GMT, David Sander
> <sur...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>
> >I was going to invite him to look at doing the soundtrack to MCS when
> >the time came.
>
> ...Yeah, he would have been perfect. Might I suggest Christopher
> Franke, who did B5? His 5th season "Coda" tracks for the departure
> scenes are, IMHO, some of the most apropos, tear-jerking memoriam
> pieces ever done for TV.
>
> And, as most of us will strongly urge here, do *not* even think of
> talking to James Horner. Unless you want the same soundtrack as all
> the other movies he cheaply scores by simply randomly mixing the same
> soundtrack he did for this one lame-assed Roger Corman knockoff of
> "Seven Samurai"...:-P :-P
>
Brian Eno or Robert Fripp. I don't remember the alternate history timeline
for MCS, but if it extends to 1972, you might contact David Brock (Hawkwind)
and see if you can get the rights to "Silver Machine".
OM
wrote:
>How about Danny Elfman?
...Only if David's going to have a punk rock soundtrack. Oingo Boingo
rules!
> Or, if you want to get all avante-garde, either Brian Eno or Robert Fripp.
...IMHO, Eno hasn't been worth a shit since he and Fripp quit hanging
around with Bowie in the late 70's, and even then Eno wasn't as good
as he was when he was dressing like Uncle Creepy in drag with Roxy
Muzak.
> I don't remember the alternate history timeline
>for MCS, but if it extends to 1972, you might contact David Brock (Hawkwind)
>and see if you can get the rights to "Silver Machine".
...Nah, he needs to stick with established timeline material.
Educational instrumentals for the early 60's stuff, and the Archies
for the actual landing :-)
Ami Silberman
"OM" <om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_research_facility.org> wrote
in message news:6qadg0560j6k4bt0u...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:09:34 -0400, "Ami Silberman" <sil...@mitre.org>
> wrote:
>
> >How about Danny Elfman?
>
> ...Only if David's going to have a punk rock soundtrack. Oingo Boingo
> rules!
>
Scissorhands", and "Spiderman" (both I and II). His earlier soundtracks all
have a sort of tinkly sort of "falling snow" sound which is, in its own way,
just as identifiable as Bernard Herrmann's screechy strings and Theremin. I
was surprised to find out that he wrote the music for Spiderman -- it's a
really good score and doesn't have the darn tinkling.
> > Or, if you want to get all avante-garde, either Brian Eno or Robert
Fripp.
>
> ...IMHO, Eno hasn't been worth a shit since he and Fripp quit hanging
> around with Bowie in the late 70's, and even then Eno wasn't as good
> as he was when he was dressing like Uncle Creepy in drag with Roxy
> Muzak.
>
I think his work with John Cage in the 90s was pretty good, but you're
right, his last great solo album was "Before and After Science". I like his
ambient music though, but blame him for inspiring New Age Muzak. (It's kind
of funny -- I guess because Eno thinks about what he's composing, and has a
definite idea behind it, his New Age stuff doesn't come across as insipid. A
parallel is with the masters of abstract art like Kandinsky, Mondrian, and
Pollock. What most fifth-rate hacks don't realize is that great abstract art
is actually representational, just not representational of physical
objects.)
> > I don't remember the alternate history timeline
> >for MCS, but if it extends to 1972, you might contact David Brock
(Hawkwind)
> >and see if you can get the rights to "Silver Machine".
>
> ...Nah, he needs to stick with established timeline material.
> Educational instrumentals for the early 60's stuff, and the Archies
> for the actual landing :-)
>
That's why I wondered what the timeline for the Mars landing was.
David Sander
>
> "OM" <om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_research_facility.org> wrote
> in message news:6qadg0560j6k4bt0u...@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:09:34 -0400, "Ami Silberman" <sil...@mitre.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >How about Danny Elfman?
> >
> > ...Only if David's going to have a punk rock soundtrack. Oingo Boingo
> > rules!
I *like* Elfman.
> Elfman also wrote the soundtracks for "Nightmare Before Christmas", "Edward
> Scissorhands", and "Spiderman" (both I and II). His earlier soundtracks all
> have a sort of tinkly sort of "falling snow" sound which is, in its own way,
> just as identifiable as Bernard Herrmann's screechy strings and Theremin. I
> was surprised to find out that he wrote the music for Spiderman -- it's a
> really good score and doesn't have the darn tinkling.
That 'darn tinkling' was almost predominantly for Tim Burton's films,
and helped convey the feeling of fantasy, fairytale escapism that Burton
aimed for. I thought his theme for Batman (the first) was excellent,
too. Get his "Music for a Darkened Theater" to appreciate some of his
quite considerable range.
> > ...Nah, he needs to stick with established timeline material.
> > Educational instrumentals for the early 60's stuff, and the Archies
> > for the actual landing :-)
> >
> That's why I wondered what the timeline for the Mars landing was.
First landing is in 1968.
I've been trying to get in contact with Vangelis to see if he'd be
interested after he's finished with the Athens Olympics, but I've
conveniently lost his agent's details and certain music companies are
being extremely difficult in refurnishing me with said details. As it
stands, I have a very good friend who is astoundingly talented who I
might give the gig to - you've got to give fresh blood an outlet at
*some* point.
Justin Wigg
> I was going to invite him to look at doing the soundtrack to MCS when
> the time came.
I was going to suggest Michael Kamen, but I've just learned that he's
dead as well. Bugger. My two favourite movie composers...
That's put a real downer on my Wednesday afternoon.
Justin
Pat Flannery
David Sander wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>How about Danny Elfman?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>...Only if David's going to have a punk rock soundtrack. Oingo Boingo
>>>rules!
>>>
>>>
>
>I *like* Elfman.
>
"Yeah? Well you just wait till those dead babies start marching..." ;-)
King Fausto of the Sixth Dimension
The Forbidden Zone
Pat Flannery
Justin Wigg wrote:
>I was going to suggest Michael Kamen, but I've just learned that he's
>dead as well. Bugger. My two favourite movie composers...
>
>That's put a real downer on my Wednesday afternoon.
>
Sounds like this guy needs the sort of cheering up that only cute,
personality-filled monkeys can provide...I've e-mailed you the Bonobo
Book cover.
Pat