Quindar Tone Samples ?
ia...@g7iii.net
I'm looking for a pure(ish) sample, rather than having to cut it out
of the examples at http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/quindar2.html
IIRC, Gary Neff had a push, pull, and pushpull sample that he created
on his website (http://home.pacifier.com/~garyn/), but that site seems
to have gone off air. Does anyone have copies of them ?
I tried google, and searching the waybackwhen.org machine, but with
no real luck :( If anyone's got them, I'd sure appreciate a copy,
or url to download them from.
Iain
adam bootle
Just found Gary Neff's quindars in my apollo audio folder, have put them
at the bottom of my audio webpage page
Adam
<ia...@g7iii.net> wrote in message
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mike flugennock
> Hi Iain,
>
> Just found Gary Neff's quindars in my apollo audio folder, have put them
> at the bottom of my audio webpage page
>
> http://adboo.com/auto
Sorry, but all I get at this page is a short Flash bit that plays over
an all-black page, and then nothing after that. This happens both in
Mozilla and IE.
--
.
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Don't lend your hand to raise no flag atop no ship of fools!"
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_______________________________________________________________
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Pat Flannery
mike flugennock wrote:
>
> Sorry, but all I get at this page is a short Flash bit that plays over
> an all-black page, and then nothing after that. This happens both in
> Mozilla and IE.
It apparently uses a Java applet; with mine it appeared, disappeared,
then reappeared ready to go.
I'm using netscape 7.
Now I know the raw excitement of all three Quindar tones!
I'd never heard of these by name before; I take it these were the beeps
heard during the astronaut's communications with Earth.
Pat
Chuck Stewart
> adam bootle wrote:
> Sorry, but all I get at this page is a short Flash bit that plays over
> an all-black page, and then nothing after that. This happens both in
> Mozilla and IE.
Somebody designs a flash-based web
page in Windows and of course it
all ends in tears...
http://adboo.com/auto
http://adboo.com/auto/audio.htm <--- best bet
http://adboo.com/auto/QuindarPush.wav
http://adboo.com/auto/QuindarRelease.wav
http://adboo.com/auto/QuindarPushRelease.wav
--
Chuck Stewart
"Anime-style catgirls: Threat? Menace? Or just studying algebra?
Chuck Stewart
> Now I know the raw excitement of all three Quindar tones!
"Errr... Doctor... You _are_ aware that
the "third tone" you hear on that page
is just the two quindar tones played in
sequence, yes?..."
> Pat
--
Chuck Stewart
"Anime-style catgirls: Threat? Menace? Or just lovable transgenic chimerae?"
OM
<ad...@removethisbootle32.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Just found Gary Neff's quindars in my apollo audio folder,
...Somehow, that sounds a bit personal :-)
OM
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Pat Flannery
Chuck Stewart wrote:
>"Errr... Doctor... You _are_ aware that
>the "third tone" you hear on that page
>is just the two quindar tones played in
>sequence, yes?..."
>
>
NO! IT IS DIFFERENT! ONE PLUS ONE EQUALS _TWO_!! AND TWO IS A DIFFERENT
NUMBER THAN TWO ONES!!!
AND THERE IS LIFE ON VENUS!!!! HOT, STINKING, SLIMY LIFE TO BE SURE -
BUT LIFE NONETHELESS!!!!
BIG PAT THING
OM
wrote:
>On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 19:17:52 -0600, Pat Flannery wrote:
>
>> Now I know the raw excitement of all three Quindar tones!
>
>"Errr... Doctor... You _are_ aware that
>the "third tone" you hear on that page
>is just the two quindar tones played in
>sequence, yes?..."
"And now...a man with a Quindar Tone up his nose!"
mike flugennock
> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 19:23:10 -0500, mike flugennock wrote:
>
>>adam bootle wrote:
>
>>>http://adboo.com/auto
>
>>Sorry, but all I get at this page is a short Flash bit that plays over
>>an all-black page, and then nothing after that. This happens both in
>>Mozilla and IE.
>
> Somebody designs a flash-based web
> page in Windows and of course it
> all ends in tears...
Aha! Java as well as JavaScript. Nothing personal to Adam, but this page
has every single potentially-most-annoying-and-dangerous feature a Web
page could have...except, of course none of it's annoying or dangerous,
except perhaps for the recording of Pete Conrad reading Gordon Cooper's
poetry (dangerous, that is). Still, I didn't think there'd be any
problem opening the page in OSX if it was designed under Windoze.
So, aaaa-aanyway...I've finally downloaded my coveted pure, clean,
noise-free "push quindar". Still, some weird thoughts...
...Am I the only one here who's somehow underwhelmed by the clean,
fresh, pure, noise-free quindar tones? I think part of the excitement of
those little pings was knowing that some of them were being transmitted
from a quarter-million miles out by the first humans on the Moon, so the
clean, pure, "original" version -- devoid of any background hiss or
crackling or other long-distance xmission noise -- seems robbed of its
excitement. So, anyway, I don't think it's just the _tone_ that's the
thing, here, it's the context we heard them in, "flavored" or "colored"
by the noise of radio xmissions from humans reading Genesis from the
Moon, or announcing the first human footsteps on the Moon, or waxing
poetic or singing for the first time on the Moon.
(On my G4 I have an .sfil of a quindar tone xmitted during Apollo 11
approach/landing comms which I clipped from a NASA TV rebroadcast of the
epic NASA PAO documentary on Apollo 11 during the NASA TV All-Night
Movies*. I have it clipped right up tight at the beginning, so there's
no noise ahead of the "attack", so when there's any system event that
sounds a tone, the tone pings in very nicely.)
*Yeah -- when the wife's job sends her out of town, I put myself to
sleep with the NASA TV All-Night PAO Reel Marathon -- no, not the Video
File, but those good old hard-boiled 60s/early 70s PAO documentaries.
Sad, huh?
adam bootle
> <ad...@removethisbootle32.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Just found Gary Neff's quindars in my apollo audio folder,
>
> ...Somehow, that sounds a bit personal :-)
>
> OM
You ought to see my bag of googles !
adam bootle
Apologies to all having trouble with the menu, I didn't realize some
browsers have probs with it. I have made a new hyperlinked only menu (just
like the old days)
P.S. If anyone has any other probs with my site (or suggestions, critisism,
or ideas) I'd be happy to hear from them.
Adam
ia...@g7iii.net
> Just found Gary Neff's quindars in my apollo audio folder, have put them
> at the bottom of my audio webpage page
>
> http://adboo.com/auto
Thanks Adam, Most Appreciated.
Iain
ia...@g7iii.net
> I'd never heard of these by name before; I take it these were the beeps
> heard during the astronaut's communications with Earth.
Yes, they were, and still are I *think*, however I believe they were
generated by Ground Equipment, supplied by a company called "Quindar".
See:
http://www.legislative.nasa.gov/alsj/quindar.html
and also this thread from s.s.h (excuse wrapping):
Iain
snidely
adam bootle wrote:
> Apologies to all having trouble with the menu, I didn't realize some
> browsers have probs with it. I have made a new hyperlinked only menu (just
> like the old days)
>
> http://www.adboo.com
>
As of this time, <http://adboo.com/auto/QuindarPushRelease.wav> and the
page it is on are working fine on Opera 8.5 on Winse XP (correct
spelling, "wince", looks too much like the would-be embedded version's
name).
/dps
Jonathan Silverlight
<ad...@removethisbootle32.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>
>Apologies to all having trouble with the menu, I didn't realize some
>browsers have probs with it. I have made a new hyperlinked only menu (just
>like the old days)
>
>http://www.adboo.com
>
Works fine in Mozilla 1.07.
I'm probably the 10,000th person to say this, but that mass of plumbing
on your enter page is straight out of Cornelius Ryan's "Man on the
Moon", from 1953.
adam bootle
"Jonathan Silverlight" <jsilve...@spam.merseia.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> wrote
in message news:4+nNVCn4...@merseia.freeserve.co.uk...
> I'm probably the 10,000th person to say this, but that mass of plumbing on
> your enter page is straight out of Cornelius Ryan's "Man on the Moon",
> from 1953.
Is it ? I got it from the NASA CEV page, prob someone at NASA art dept
been having a read !
Adam
Jonathan Silverlight
<ad...@removethisbootle32.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>
Look at <http://vesuvius.jsc.nasa.gov/er/seh/lunarlan.html>
Von Braun's design was much bigger, though.
James Blish would have been amused. In "They Shall Have Stars"
(published in 1956 but set in 2018) he has Senator Wagoner saying
"And what about hull design? That's still based on von Braun's work. Is
it really possible that there's nothing better than those frameworks of
hitched onions?"
And he was being optimistic, with a Titan Base in 1981.
Jonathan Griffitts
mike flugennock writes
>...Am I the only one here who's somehow underwhelmed by the clean,
>fresh, pure, noise-free quindar tones? I think part of the excitement
>of those little pings was knowing that some of them were being
>transmitted from a quarter-million miles out by the first humans on the
>Moon, so the clean, pure, "original" version -- devoid of any
>background hiss or crackling or other long-distance xmission noise --
>seems robbed of its excitement.
Nit picking time: it was my understanding that Qundar tones were
transmitted only by ground equipment, not by the spacecraft.
Let's see. . .
ALSJ seems to agree with me:
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/quindar.html
--
Jonathan Griffitts
AnyWare Engineering Boulder, CO, USA
Pat Flannery
mike flugennock wrote:
>
>
> *Yeah -- when the wife's job sends her out of town, I put myself to
> sleep with the NASA TV All-Night PAO Reel Marathon -- no, not the
> Video File, but those good old hard-boiled 60s/early 70s PAO
> documentaries. Sad, huh?
'This is Saturn V. There are many questions to be answered before we can
build Saturn V."*
Yeah, they were dead serious back then....this was no feel-good stuff,
this was _rocket science_; and we were going toe-to-toe with the ruskies
over it.
Their choice of music was great also. When they showed something in
space, they'd have these strange arias that would sound like a cross
between Handel's Messiah and Forbidden Planet. The overall effect was
that the astronauts would be in some sort of religious trance from being
up in the heavens and near God.
People who didn't live through it don't realize just what a strange time
that was, and how the national space program got to be an obsession to
the degree of a religious crusade during the early 1960's.
* "Question one: Can something this fukin' big ever get off the ground?
Question two: Can we get America to ever completely trust Mr. V-2 over
there?" :-)
Pat
OM
wrote:
>'This is Saturn V. There are many questions to be answered before we can
>build Saturn V."
"There are two questions that run through your mind as you wait inside
the spacecraft: Is *it* ready? Are *YOU* ready?"
Those old PAO films prior to the 70's were probably the only things
the NASA PAO produced that were actually worth a shit. Too bad they
got "70-tized", because it stripped a *lot* of the patriotism out of
the Apollo films that should have been there and in the face of all
the hippies...
Pat Flannery
OM wrote:
>"There are two questions that run through your mind as you wait inside
>the spacecraft: Is *it* ready? Are *YOU* ready?"
>
>
Let's just say that those medical sensors on my back may be shorting out
about the time I think about those two questions.
>Those old PAO films prior to the 70's were probably the only things
>the NASA PAO produced that were actually worth a shit. Too bad they
>got "70-tized", because it stripped a *lot* of the patriotism out of
>the Apollo films that should have been there and in the face of all
>the hippies...
>
>
Let me guess...your favorite South Park character is Cartman, isn't it? ;-)
Pat
Neil Gerace
news:11o7ijk...@corp.supernews.com...
To some people, I bet even Cartman is a tree-hugging hippie :-)
Pat Flannery
Neil Gerace wrote:
>To some people, I bet even Cartman is a tree-hugging hippie :-)
>
>
But he's a god to the Sea Monkeys.
Pat
OM
wrote:
>Neil Gerace wrote:
>
>>To some people, I bet even Cartman is a tree-hugging hippie :-)
>
>But he's a god to the Sea Monkeys.
...What most people don't realize is that Matt & Trey based that
episode on an "Outer Limits" episode called "Sandkings", which was
itself based on George RR Martin's short story by the same name, and
also graphically and beautifully adapted by Pat Broderick for a DC
Graphic Novel in the 80's. I'd heard some time back that Maxis was
actually considering a sim version of Sandkings that was essentially
SimAnt with the option of using your own photographs to influence the
temple and statuebuilding, but apparently a deal couldn't be reached
with Martin.
OM
wrote:
>Let me guess...your favorite South Park character is Cartman, isn't it? ;-)
...Actually, I like the whole cast, with no real favorites per se. If
I had to pick one, it would probably be Chef. Chef reminds me a lot of
someone who worked for my Pop that had a lot of influence on my
upbringing, which is why he stands out quite a bit when I think about
the show.
Pat Flannery
OM wrote:
>>
>>But he's a god to the Sea Monkeys.
>>
>>
>
>...What most people don't realize is that Matt & Trey based that
>episode on an "Outer Limits" episode called "Sandkings",
>
You know, now that you mention it, I think I saw that episode.
> which was
>itself based on George RR Martin's short story by the same name, and
>also graphically and beautifully adapted by Pat Broderick for a DC
>Graphic Novel in the 80's. I'd heard some time back that Maxis was
>actually considering a sim version of Sandkings that was essentially
>SimAnt with the option of using your own photographs to influence the
>temple and statuebuilding, but apparently a deal couldn't be reached
>with Martin.
>
>
I had Sea Monkeys. I left them in the tank one night and forgot to feed
them.
Next morning there was one really big Sea Monkey left in the tank.
Pat
Pat Flannery
OM wrote:
>
>...Actually, I like the whole cast, with no real favorites per se. If
>I had to pick one, it would probably be Chef. Chef reminds me a lot of
>someone who worked for my Pop that had a lot of influence on my
>upbringing, which is why he stands out quite a bit when I think about
>the show.
>
>
That's just _wrong_, OM. :-)
Pat
OM
wrote:
>OM wrote:
...In what way? This was a guy who treated me as if I were his own
son, and took me at age 9 on not one but *five* different occasions to
see All-Star Wrestling down at City Colosseum, where I got to see the
likes of Johnny Valentine, Wah-Hoo McDaniel, Bronco Luvitch, Toro
Tanaka and Ivan Putski beat the shit out of each other live in person,
back in the days when rasslin' wasn't taken over by poofters and
phonies like Hulk Hogan and Rick Flair and their ilk.
[Shakes head in dismay *and* confusion]
Pat Flannery
OM wrote:
>>That's just _wrong_, OM. :-)
>>
>>
>
>...In what way? This was a guy who treated me as if I were his own
>son, and took me at age 9 on not one but *five* different occasions to
>see All-Star Wrestling down at City Colosseum, where I got to see the
>likes of Johnny Valentine, Wah-Hoo McDaniel, Bronco Luvitch, Toro
>Tanaka and Ivan Putski beat the shit out of each other live in person,
>back in the days when rasslin' wasn't taken over by poofters and
>phonies like Hulk Hogan and Rick Flair and their ilk.
>
>[Shakes head in dismay *and* confusion]
>
>
You, a South Park fan, missed one of Chef's favorite lines?
I think that's his reply when the gang tells him that they may have had
a part in the death of Ms. Choksondiks because she was found with semen
in her stomach, and Cartman had put their Sea Men in the teacher's
coffee pot. :-D
Pat
mike flugennock
Well, I'll be dipped in it. I stand nitpicked. Still, after all those
years of watching film and tape and listening to the comms, does anyone
else think that the "Bootle Quindars" don't sound "right" somehow
without the "coloring" of background noise. Could just be "the moment"...
mike flugennock
> On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:00:36 -0600, Pat Flannery <fla...@daktel.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>OM wrote:
>>
>>>...Actually, I like the whole cast, with no real favorites per se. If
>>>I had to pick one, it would probably be Chef. Chef reminds me a lot of
>>>someone who worked for my Pop that had a lot of influence on my
>>>upbringing, which is why he stands out quite a bit when I think about
>>>the show.
>>
>>That's just _wrong_, OM. :-)
>
>
> ...In what way? This was a guy who treated me as if I were his own
> son, and took me at age 9 on not one but *five* different occasions to
> see All-Star Wrestling down at City Colosseum, where I got to see the
> likes of Johnny Valentine, Wah-Hoo McDaniel, Bronco Luvitch, Toro
> Tanaka and Ivan Putski beat the shit out of each other live in person,
> back in the days when rasslin' wasn't taken over by poofters and
> phonies like Hulk Hogan and Rick Flair and their ilk.
You're right on _there_, bro'. I used to watch those guys on tv in high
school in the mid'70s -- probably about the same time you caught those
matches live.
I don't know about you, but I liked pro wrestling _better_ when it was
still seedy and disreputable; actually, Hulk Hogan used to be a
_villian_ back in the early '70s, a Bad Guy so reviled that even some of
the other Bad Guys hated him, back before WWF got all big-time and
fashionable, and the Hulk wound up on the cover of SI doing that Surfer
Muscle Dude thing, taking his vitamins and saying his prayers and
preaching to all the Little Hulksters and all that bullshit.
Pat Flannery
mike flugennock wrote:
>
>
>
> I don't know about you, but I liked pro wrestling _better_ when it was
> still seedy and disreputable;
I don't know if "seedy" is the right word..."silly" would be a better one.
I watched it for around two weeks back when I was in Junior High School;
then it dawned on me it was rigged, so it was back to Tom Synder and The
Tomorrow Show- the thinking man's home. ;-)
Pat
OM
<flvg3...@stinkers.org> wrote:
>does anyone else think that the "Bootle Quindars" don't sound "right" somehow
...Actually, that phrase in quotes by itself has a rather odd ring :-P
OM
wrote:
>I don't know if "seedy" is the right word..."silly" would be a better one.
...Except that before it became "seedy" and/or "silly", thanks to the
likes of Mad Adrian Sweet and the Shitherders from Oz, during the
mid-70's it became "swishy" and "totally gay". *That* was what killed
All-Star Wrestling as far as Texas was concerned.
FYI, I have an unconfirmed report today from another ASW fan who's
heard Wah-Hoo McDaniel's health has failed recently to the point where
he can't get out of bed now. Damn...
Neil Gerace
"OM" <om@all_spammers_WILL_burn_in_hell.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:46:35 -0500, mike flugennock
> <flvg3...@stinkers.org> wrote:
>
>>does anyone else think that the "Bootle Quindars" don't sound "right"
>>somehow
>
> ...Actually, that phrase in quotes by itself has a rather odd ring :-P
>
Yeah. Sounds like an alien race from The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy
... or a Canadian geek-rock band.
adam bootle
"Neil Gerace" <ger...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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Lol, the "Bootle Quindars" were actually made (AFAIK) by Gary Neff using a
tone generator and are not original quindar tones, there are tone generators
in some free audio software, and I have made some myself using the data on
one of the quindar pages (frequency, sine wave and time is all it was I
think)
Adam
P.S. The Bootle Quindars will be appearing at a restaurant near you
shortly (if you live at the end of the universe)
OM
<ad...@removethisbootle32.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>does anyone else think that the "Bootle Quindars" don't sound "right"
>>>>somehow
>>>
>>> ...Actually, that phrase in quotes by itself has a rather odd ring :-P
>>>
>>
>> Yeah. Sounds like an alien race from The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy
>> ... or a Canadian geek-rock band.
>
>Lol, the "Bootle Quindars" were actually made (AFAIK) by Gary Neff
"Tonight on the Smothers Brothers Musical Comedy Review, welcome
special guests Donovan, Peter, Paul and Mary, the Bee Gees, and the
Gary Neff Quindars, featuring Adam Bootle on accordion!"
mike flugennock
> "Neil Gerace" <ger...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
> news:43854ca3$0$12445$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
>>"OM" <om@all_spammers_WILL_burn_in_hell.com> wrote in message
>>news:v6eao1p1lhtv874pe...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:46:35 -0500, mike flugennock
>>><flvg3...@stinkers.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>does anyone else think that the "Bootle Quindars" don't sound "right"
>>>>somehow
>>>
>>>...Actually, that phrase in quotes by itself has a rather odd ring :-P
>>>
>>
>>Yeah. Sounds like an alien race from The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy
>>... or a Canadian geek-rock band.
>
>
> Lol, the "Bootle Quindars" were actually made (AFAIK) by Gary Neff using a
> tone generator and are not original quindar tones, there are tone generators
> in some free audio software, and I have made some myself using the data on
> one of the quindar pages (frequency, sine wave and time is all it was I
> think)
Ahh, ha. That explains at least _part_ of it.
Still, the _original_ tones, I assume, were still quite "clean" as
opposed to the way we all remember them from all the comms we heard
while watching Apollo missions on tv.
Scott Hedrick
"mike flugennock" <flvg3...@stinkers.org> wrote in message
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> I don't know about you, but I liked pro wrestling _better_ when it was
> still seedy and disreputable
Bring back the *real* Dusty Rhodes!
Florida Championship Wrestling with Gordon Solie!
Ami Silberman
really creepy, but also really interesting), and the one with Wendy O.
Williams. (Which showed just how vacuous she was.)