Re: ~~~~> I Pledge <~~~~//The REAL Alien Agenda approved by the DIA/NSA!
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> This will make you toss your lunch ...
> HollyWeird's finest grinding out their humble obsequiousness
> in deference to the new Fuehrer ....
> Missing were Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod carrying
> the Hammer & Sickle flag and smartly saluting the Messiah
> with a heart-felt "Sieg Obama".
> The second coming of National Socialism ... it failed the first
> time, but what the hell, we'll try it again.
>
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=51kAw4OTlA0
This is the true alien agenda. Even "H"eroin will agree that his
controllers have put the seal of approval to this one!
The Alien Agenda
Question: Indications have been over the years that distinct groups of
other humanoids exist on, in and around this planet which have varying
and overlapping agenda which appear to interface with that of the
human factions that control high technology, and that the whole
paradigm is quickly approaching a zenith of some kind. Based on your
internal gut feeling, and information you have gleaned from personal
experience or general research, where do you think this whole thing is
leading?
From: j...@neoucom.edu
Comment: Has anyone else experienced lots of UFO sightings in Sedona,
AZ? I
had never seen at UFO until I went there. I not only saw many UFOS,
but also saw an entity which was about 3 ft. tall, had a rather
amorphous shape, and sparkled like diamonds! The night I was out,
there was much UFO activity around a so-called “secret base”. Rumors
are that the base is a joint U.S. military/alien base. People in the
Sedona area have met up with military types (armed) while hiking in
the canyons around there, and have been escorted out of the canyons at
gunpoint. (According to Tom Dongo in his book about Sedona called
“Merging Dimensions”.) Whatever the alien agenda is, there are many
clues in the Sedona area.
From: dz...@mbear.sfusd
We’re advancing re extraterrestrials, yet the discourse still suffers
from what extras disdain most in us: our tendency to lapse into self-
centered and infantile vernacular. Bad science, apocalyptic angst,
etc. are major impediments. More advanced civilizations communicate
more, faster, and in finer detail through telepathy. They can also
realize understandings and sensitivities not possible with our slowed,
retarded wave function-only way of using only our mouths. There is
also a larger order, yet as far as I can see, not a rigid heirarchy,
among/between various extras. The “grays” are seen as stodgy in their
own way, by some others. Remember, they live much longer than we do,
hence a “gray” who still sweats and resents crashing at Roswell may
yet linger on duty re us. We are evolving much faster than they are,
relatively speaking, at present. “Grays” are very smart, yet their
leadership is not as flexible re our readiness as are other
populations, i.e. the “Elders” Alec Newald writes about. The truth is,
we need to evolve the terms of both our own global interaction and our
interaction with the “grays” in order to prevent a shadow regime of
elitist CIA/cabal types who might try to bury advanced knowledge in
order to yoke us to to the same old classist/elitist archaic religious
stone, by which they profit callously. The truth is within (nonlocal)
not “out there” referentially.
From: gonz...@hotmail.com
“The name of the game is “Find Your Adversary”. Your adversary’s game
plan
is to convince you that he does not exist.” ----W.S. Burroughs
There is so much paranoia (or legitimate fear) and disinformation out
there that we probably won’t know for sure what’s going on until they
take over. Clearly, there is some kind of “subculture” indoctrination
going on, using X-files, Star Trek, MIB, and all the new alien logo
shit to make the notion of discussing UFOs seriously seem cheap and
insane - yet at the same time, the paranormal stuff is “safe” in this
form because it’s marketable and we are subconsciously getting used to
the idea of not being alone here. The problem with peaceful, open
contact is our xenophobia - and the unseen “ulterior” agendas of our
own gov’t and the greys, which could be paranoia - or truly justified
fear. In a universe where literally anything is possible, the wwo are
indistinguishable.
From: STAR...@CLDS.NET
Comment: From some very frightening personal experiences, coupled with
years
of study, I have come to the conclusion humanity is being
“conditioned” to accept an organic, inter-galactic origin for these
beings. I mean we are meant to believe these aliens are material in
existence. I believe they are spiritual and have their origins in
another demension. That they have the ability to pass in and out of
our demension is obvious enough. Anyone who has done any study in
demonalogy and the parapsychic knows the close relationship between
much of the alien activity, its post-effects and demon posession. I
would agree there is indeed a Cosmic conflict that spans the ages.
Lucifer has done a good job thus far in converting this planet (or at
least Earth’s leadership) to his spin on God, Christ and the Bible.
The prophets of the Old Testement predicted the things that are
happening at this moment. Curious too how the Nazis and many other
occultic groups have a similar thread of anti-Semitism.
From: philosu...@hotmail.com
In a previous message, ‘hutt...@gv.net’ wrote: “If reincarnation is
true then it seems reasonable that we have incarnated on other
planets. If that is true WE are the aliens!”
This idea is a springboard for many possibilities that most people
haven’t explored. Many keys to the puzzle of human existence and
events transpiring in Earth right now will present themselves as
people unravel the mystery of humanity’s reincarnational history.
For instance, consider that all of the trends toward
Orwellian/Fascist/NWO-type structures which we see developing—and have
seen in countries such as Germany—are not new to the Universe, but
have been played out countless times in ancient extraterrestrial
civilizations. Some of these cultures might have been much worse off
than we could even imagine ourselves becoming! A hypothesis I’ve been
working on is that the trends in modern cultures toward mass
homogeneity of worldviews, and the suspension of civil liberties, are
part of a migration of human souls toward the patterns they knew when
they were part of more regressive societies.
As an afterthought, there’s a dark side of the communication age:
people losing the drive for individual exploration. We can now “plug
in” to an entire network of other people who all have the exact same
opinions as ourselves; isn’t this almost nationalistic mindset
frighteningly like the “group mind” consciousness attributed to the
Greys?
From: AFSW...@aol.com
I would agree with the anonymous contributor to this discussion that
the best way to hide something is to make it totally obvious. I am
thoroughly convinced that the top media executives and/or government
officials are responsible for the latest alien “fad” programming on TV
and at the movies. “Cute” grey aliens are everywhere at the stores
(i.e., t-shirts, stuffed aliens, jewelry, gumball machines, video
games, etc.). To see Alien Workshop brand t-shirts depict an alien
abduction scenario is not much different to me than seeing a lampshade
made out of human skin from the Holocaust. To me, this is not a
“harmless fad,” but blatant manipulation of the general public view
toward the realities of the alien presence.
My own experiences leave me with no other logical choice but to know
that aliens are here and have been for a long time. Although I believe
that certain types of these beings live mainly underground on Earth
(with certain gov’t officials) and can be identified throughout
ancient mythology, folklore, cultural belief systems, etc., as
“demons” or perhaps “fallen angels,” I make a considerable effort to
regard this “life?-form” as objectively as possible. We as a human
race must face the horrors and crimes we have committed toward each
other and “lower” life forms before we can accept and appreciate what
this particular alien presence can possibly offer us - a chance to
find redemption as a human race through FACING our worst fears, guilt,
etc. Such is the result of believing that we are at one end of the
food chain, that we do not have control over ourselves, and that
nothing can be true unless “scientifically” proven. To recognize this
alien presence, one must acknowledge one’s own identity more fully,
and see that these abduction-dependent creatures reflect our own vices
as a dominant world culture, and that what we refuse to see in
ourselves is what we refuse to see in the world(s) around us.
From: guar...@otenet.gr
What I want to submit is a subject rather ignorred in the Net. What
many don’t know is the role of Greece (Hellas) in the afairs of the
world, since... a great time ago, till the present. Most of you may
think of my coutry (yes I am Greek, but believe me it doesn’t affect
my judgement - if you seek the facts you will understand) as a poor
and once great... nation. From a point of view this is very true. My
country has been pushed into poverty by our own stupidity, and from
the course of actions by its’ greatest “enemies”, the known zionists.
This is not a political issue though. If you trace the zionist cult
way back in time, you will stumble upon a variety of allien-related
material. Words as: Metatron..., Asmondai, Lilith, etc. Ring a bell?
If you seek the astronomical data of several ancient civi- lizations
you will discover a time when the Earth’s moon was not in place. Why?
What is the link to Greece (Aristotelis - Nasa - NSA - Secret
societies - ufos’ in 1947 - ufos’ to come - the origin of some ufos)
and more, I will soon post. Data on this, and MUCH more will be soon
sent. It is up to you to verify the validity of all this.
From: abb...@execpc.com
There is ample information that our government is not telling the
public the whole truth about much at all, let alone the biggest news
in human history... The question is, when will an event occur that
will not be able to be hidden from the masses, and will the gov.
finally fess up? I applaud this site for providing the chance to
discuss these topics. If you are interested in this and other related
subject, you will want to cut-and-paste this URL and check out this
website: www.execpc.com/CIA.home.HTML (caps must be capitalized) E-
mail me there and Let me know what you think.
From: wyn...@yahoo.com
Comment: Bear in mind that the term “alien” is defined as “foreign and
hostile”, that is, it is animal (and human) nature to regard all that
is
unlike himself as threatening to his livelihood. Therefore it is
immaterial
what these beings “want”, ie, what their intentions are, for we will
INVARIABLY percieve them to be “evil”. As they are evolutionary
agents (I
believe) it would seem that they are “concerned” with engineering
(hastening?) the DNA Mutation which is necessary for man’s survival
(and
theirs?) at this time: nonetheless, this hastening (or “quickening” to
get
biblical about it) will inevitably result in complete metabolic
collapse for the vast majority of bio-systems (as it is generally with
the entire Earth-sphere). IN a word, “death”. Hence we might say that
these beings, so far as they can be judged at all, have evil
intentions but good motives... “A.I.D.S” (falsely so-called, and
apart from all the murkier military-intelligence pop-control links) is
a NATURAL phenomenon engineered by alien intelligence (if that’s not a
total paradox), and is in fact none other than this very mutation
process. A.I.D.S might be deciphered as Alien Infiltration Decay
Strategy, or simply, Alien Invasion: Diagnosis Serious! Above all it
is essential I believe to understand that, as these beings are
basically INorganic, ie, otherdimensional, they manifest PHYSICALLY at
a microscopic or subatomic level, as cellular or indeed viral
“responses”...
They may be arising on the InterNet, through our TVs, and even in our
bedrooms in the dead of night, but all this is secondary to (resultant
from)
the molecular resurgence or emergence which is taking place WITHIN THE
HUMAN
BODY ITSELF. Well, that’s my piece, off the top of my head. If you
want to
read more a thought-out analysis, visit Alien Intelligence Manouvers,
at
CROW, http://www.geocities.com/area51/3255 all seekers welcome the
truth is
in here, somewhere thanks for your time, and may the myth be with you
jason
wynd
• From: hutt...@gv.net
Comment: If reincarnation is true then it seems reasonable that we
have incarnated on other planets. If that is true WE are the aliens!
From: bes...@powerup.com.au
Comment: : It seems like the Question has gone a little stale nothing
since August. I don’t feel any doubt about the presence mentioned,
there seems to be more overlapping pictures the further I go. I can’t
help wondering why us at this point in time. What is it about us or
the earth that is so important to controll and manipulate. I actually
fell sorry for these so called advanced intelligent races who have
nothing better to do except squabble at this point in time, I suppose
in that sense they haven’t really advanced that much. I do however
acknowledge with much respect the sacrifice the benevelent races are
makeing (according to my limited knowledge). I wish it could be a
peaceful and cooperative process we are all in this together.
From: pha...@lmco.com
Comment: Hello, If you want to know the truth of the matter Aliens
are actually fallen angels that are trying to breed with humanity with
the help of the government, to create a fallen humanity that can be
controlled and never allowed to be born-again resulting in Satan’a
ablility to claim final ownership and control of the Earth.
From: rich...@eci.com
Comment: In my opinion, many people are gettting too caught up in the
“information” aspect of extraterrestrial phenomena—quotations added
because most information available seems either too subjective, too
inconclusive, selectively disseminated with possible ulterior motives,
and/or frought with personal prejudices and assumptions.
Until that fateful day when concrete information is made available to
everyone with no hidden agenda or subtly disguised paradigm
indoctrination campaigns, people should focus on the non-informational
aspects of the ET issue as much as, or more than, they attempt to
prove that their views of aliens represent the absolute truth. I
recommend that instead of trying to expose “the great conspiracy” or
try to figure out who’s under alien control, people engage in an
objective analysis of different ET paradigms as a means to a greater
knowledge of the self.
Within all the diverse views about “Aliens” we can find archetypes
which are, in fact, fundamental to HUMAN existence. The common belief
about the grey civilization, for example, depicts a distinctly
plausible view of the future of human beings, if our overall
consciousness and the paradigms of our governing institutions continue
along a linear course. Already, we have begun to see government-
endorsed projects to map out human genetics with an ultimate goal of
“removing the bad parts” of our nature... Has anybody here read Brave
New World? Now imagine that the governing system in Braave New World
did not have such altruistic motives—voila, we have the grey
civilization recreated on Earth.
While the grey paradigm shows us the the most negative, ego-oriented
version of mental, social, and governmental structures, other
paradigms represrent a more benign ideal. For example, take the new
movie, Contact.
This film expresses a view of “Aliens” as beings who are mysified with
humans—who are shocked by our destructiveness on one hand, but are
also amazed by our creativiy and the power of our compassion. (it is
interesting to compare the beings in “Contact” with those described in
the work of Alex Collier.)
This view of ETs exemplified by movies such as Contact or Coccoon
represents the archetype of “the innocent—“ the aspect of each of us
which is removed from the entropic, ego-based structures which lead
human beings to ostracise each other and knowingly create conflict and
harm.
None of these views could truly be called “Alien,” for each of them is
drawn from a diffferent area of what Jung called the Collective
Unconscious of humanity. In the same vein, if aliens really do exist,
the key to inderstanding them is to realistically view them as
reflections of our own potential; whether it be the best or the worst
of that potential, the broad spectrum of paradigms about ETs provides
us with a map of fundamental human archetypes in their most refined
form.
To conclude, if we are to understand the aliens, we must first have an
unbiased view of own best and worst potential, and be aware of which
archetypes we embody in any given moment; otherwise we may find,
someday, that we have created a society in which we have become aliens
to our own truest ideals—with or without outside help.
From: kom...@uni-muenster.de
Comment:First I have to admit, I do not know and many of the topics
raised by Ufologists seem to be pretty far from consensus reality. I
think, that there may have been aliens on our planet, but well would
they really play these childish games ? I don‘t know. Personally I
have never made any experience that might lead me to really believe in
Ufo‘s and such. Actually I‘ve never talked to anyone who had any
encounter with aliens ufo‘s etc. I‘d be happy if someone who has
experienced these things firsthand could mail me a line or two. Does
anyone has an idea why the whole topic seems to be more an american
theme than an european ?
From: lser...@erols.com
Comment: I would like to know the thoughts that anyone might have on
the so called alien interview. Is it just plain crazy to believe that
this could be real or is there a chance that there could be something
to this video. I have only heard about the tape once and have had no
luck finding any info on the subject. Anyone with any thoughts or
better yet info please E mail me.
From: re...@citenet.net
Comment: The aliens are obviously very intelligent. Then, how does
one explain that they have not used this wonderful tool that is
Internet. This tool is supposed to be as free as possible from
government interference...so, what are they waiting for? It would be,
at the present time, the best platform to present themselves to
humanity...
From: jbas...@maine.maine.edu
Comment: I would like to begin by saying I know very little about the
actual details, and what not your all disscussing. I would like to
recieve greater information, and functioning on the assumption that
this all isn’t esoteric knoledge I would appreciate anyone writting
me, and directing me to information on this topic.
Now on to what I do know, or rather what I think I know. In the field
of anthropology their have been several studies on the nature of
beauracracy, how western culture(in general), follows it, denies they
follow it, and works towards the subsequent goodies, and what not that
are available by doing what your told to do by an assumed greater
power! Now imagine this if you will: the leaders of our great nation,
fighting to control senate seats, perphapes working to become
president; function under these ideals of beaurocracy i.e. Do what
your told until your on top! Now imagine being on top, after living a
life by these rules . . . suddenly no boss, no one to keep you in
line, but hang on? What if their is? Being not entirely convinced of
the idea of aliens being involved in our goverment, I’m saying if
their was they would have absolute power. Not from mind control or any
other function anymore alien to us, and this world then simple
beauracracy. (my spelling sucks forgive me)It wouldn’t involve
selling out humanity, because your subhuman, but selling out humanity,
because you are exactly human. I can cite, some articles on this.
From: men...@mediacomp.com
Comment: The preparation continues—an ocean is found on Europa. I
remain skeptical, but anticipatory.
From: mi...@guitarcenter.com
Comment: It is my belief that Aliens are really highly evolved humans
and sightings are related to their return back in time. The abductions
of humans is a necessary research method aliens use in order to
improve the future condition of the human race. I believe that these
advanced humans have the technology to make time travel possible.
From: denni...@aol.com
Comment: Lately I have been reading and studying quite voraciously
many interrelated topics that directly or tangentially relate to the
UFO phenomenon. Specifically I have read the books by Zachariah
Sitchin Whitley Streiber, Jaquess Valee, Raymond Fowler et all. I have
also been studying the interrelation between phsyics, cosmology,
sociology, psychology, and theology and am startled to find the same
overlapping patterns and theories in all disciplines. First and
foremost I believe that human beings are complex multi-dimensional
creatures composed of a conscious mind a physical body and a non-local
spiritual conciousness. It is interesting to follow and observe
societal barometric indicators like disease, disability, mental
illness, alcoholsim, violence etc. and wonder where or how we went
wrong. If a careful and detailed study (of which I have only just
embarked) is undertaken, I believe that one would conclude with a
certainty that mankind has been manipulated and is continuing to be
manipulated against its will.
From: ka...@citenet.net
Comment: Anybody who thinks that we are alone in this universe is
being a crass idiot. The universe consists of billions upon billions
of galaxies which contain an equal number of stars. Astronomers admit
that they have found the stuff of life amoungst the stars. So the
probability is very high say 1/N that there exists at least 1 race
human looking or otherwise that exists at our level of technology. If
they are at our technology level, forget it they won’t get here. So
that at least proves that there is at least one race out amoungst all
those billions upon billions of stars. Now the probability that there
are races beyond our level of technology that can get to our planet is
fairly strong, but not as strong, say 1/f(n) that they exist.
It is a moot point if we can’t find ‘em. We spend billions of dollars
on radio and visual telescopes looking and listening for them. If
there is a community of races more evolved than us then logically they
would have found a better way to communicate between themselves than
using radio telescopes. Just because we can’t pick up there message
doesn’t mean that they aren’t there. It justs me haven’t developed the
technology to pick up their messages...
We are like a primitive tribe sending smoke signals to the next tribe
and wondering why nothing is coming back....
Probably because the next tribe has learn how to use telephones and
the Internet !
IMHO I have read many case histories and contactee books and using
probabalistic reasoning I believe we are NOT alone. Carl Sagan once
said,”... that UFO’s might have visited our past... but there is no
evidence to suggest that they are here now.” Doesn’t matter... They
exist.
From: Chris
Comment: This is exciting. All of these people thrilled about the idea
of higher life forms. In my ignorance of this whole subject, let me
express to you my enthusasm. I am an alien. You can be too. Although I
feel you will throw this out because you have limited your believes to
anything other than a relationship with The Creator...Shoot!...I was
trying not to use any capitalized words that the eye might be drawn to
with a quick scan of the document without reading the whole thing. Oh
well, I might as well say it...I’m a Christian. I don’t get any prize
or benefits by telling you about Jesus...I just have found Him to be
real and relevant and would like all to share in my discovery to the
point of discovering Him personally. The church has been a terrible
example of Jesus and have strayed tremedously from The Truth but that
doesn’t make The Truth itself a crock. Please exept my apology on
behave of the church of Christ, and also please except my push of
enthusiasm to you not as a threat, but as [message incomplete at this
point]
With good intentions, Chris
From: rol...@msn.uk
Comment: Having read several of the comments on this section I feel it
is important to put my general view on this subject. I have not come
to any definite opinion about who exactly the aliens are or where they
come from. But I have realised that we have a great deal of
disinformation being put out into the public domain. The media are
being used, and manipulated, just as the general public are. Who is
doing it, how many different sources are doing it, I don’t know. But I
have learnt to recognise some of the ways in which the truth can be
stated but the ordinary person is led to believe it is nothing but
claptrap, or whatever rubbish word you want to use. Sometimes “one
can’t see the wood for the trees” certainly where UFO information is
concerned. I am becoming very cynical, believing governments, and
secret services, and religions, and any group that has a personal
interest in personal power, will do anything, and I mean anything, to
achieve their ends. They will do even the unthinkable. To accept this
concept I have been through hell at times with those in authority and
I have seen the corruption behind the scenes whic [message incomplete
at this point]
What has this to do with UFOs? It is the fundamental basis to reports
on UFOs and their discussions. Understand the power motive, and you
understand why our governments don’t want us to understand or know
what is going on. Information is power. Power must remain in the
hands of those who lead. Aliens, if they exist, either control
mankind already, or are the things human controllers hate the most
because of the fear of losing their power over mankind.
From: sla...@itma.pwr.wroc.pl
Comment: In terms of alien cultures and Earth’s future let me
recommend the book “Thiaooba prophesy” by Michel Desmarquet. The many
messages contained in the book really make think about ourselves and
the universe. The summary of the book can be read on Internet:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/health_/mic.htm Believe me,
it’s worth reading!
If you dare reading it anyway.
From: roysm...@sprynet.com
Comment: I have of recent sensed that possibly we are missing
something (all part of the plan of diversion of course) when we blame
Aliens for being at the bottom of the cause of our dillema. I believe
it goes deeper than Aliens and more evil by far. Of course it or them
do not want to be exposed so we are led to believe and blame it all on
Aliens. We have fallen for it. Come on, do more research and help me
and all of us to find the hiding ones. Refer to Galaxy 37 The Archons
of Destiny. Remember they are good at deceiving.
From: EFiel...@aol.com
Comment: I’m an African-American of Native-American descent. I’ve been
researching the effects of EMR on people of color for several years
now and am very concerned with the high impact of these (ELF) on urban
areas. I have often wondered how this environmental anomaly
contributes to periods of high crime, disease outbreaks, and apathy.
I’ve also questioned the added impact of mind and mood altering
(designer, synthetic) drugs and how the biochemical make-up of these
drugs(particularly crack cocaine) interact with certain wave
frequencies to produce an even more disastrous effect on the users.
How much of this is coincidental to the drug crisis itself and how
much of it is deliberate...
I would be interested in knowing if there is any information specific
to the above and if there have been any studies done on the effects of
ELF rays on melanin-dominant groups since melanin is an energy
conductor/receptor and very sensitive to their influence. Such
information would be a valuable tool for those of us seeking ways to
turn the tide of crime and violence in inner cities which have large
numbers of melanin-dominant populations.
From: r.j.m...@herts.ac.uk
Comment: Never in my life have I been as excited and fascinated as
much as
the current topic of aliens, expanding human conciousness and their
respective link. I agree with a majority of what i have read on this
page
thus far, as I do with predominantly most of the alien related press
(UFO
reality, published in England) I amn 21 years of age, and ever since I
can
remember, I have been interested in such things. when i was ten My
father
and sister both came into the house excitedly claiming they’d seen a
glowing
triangular shaped object that hovered silently and then zipped of
without a
sound at amazing speed. At that moment I crapped myself with fear and
tried
to reason with them thsat they had actually not seen the
afforementioned
object....but they remained adamant Converswation in the family was
rife
prior to this encounter, on the subject of ET’s ghosts Ufo’s etc etc,
and it
scared the hell out of me. You know why? because deep down I Knew It
could
be a distinct and REAL possibility that these things
From: Alec Newald
Comment: In my humble opinion very few if any Alien interactions with
us on planet Earth are in the negative vain.Most if not all abductee’s
or contactee’s have made great strides in their own personal
development after such interactions. I do believe such thoughts of
negativity are disinformation from those that it suits to have us
believe such things. Others carry their fear like children and are
afraid to open themselves to new ideas. these are the ones that are
always presented to the public by those that wish all to fear this
phenomena. loves grows, fear restricts. let the truth out .Alec
Newald .
From: ea...@gte.net
Comment: Could the Aliens be us in the future coming back and trying
to warn the world leaders to change or the futer will be a horrific
time of desiese and hunger. I recently saw a program on the discovery
channel talking about the computer age and how in 200 years man would
develope smaller arms and would devolpe large heads and eyes from
constantly being stuck to a computer. It reminded me of the Greys.
Could they be us in the futer? I read Sphere By Michael Criten & it
talked about a spaceship found underwater and it was 2000 years old.
From: Anonymous
Comment: The question of whether there is other life in this galaxy
has been answered with the latest scientific discoveries of the
1990’s. Fossilized bacteria from Mars and planets around other suns
mean life is common thourghout the Milky Way. People are afraid of
this! This is why the the Face on Mars and the Greys are laughed at.
People laugh at things that scare them. I am 40 years old and the
world has changed more in my life span then the last 400 years. This
very device you are viewing was undreamed of by the best minds just 20
years ago. All our questions about the other life forms visiting this
planet will be answered soon. People are just beginning to wake up .
From: kela...@magiclink.com
Comment: The “idea” that the MEDIA is controlling the information
about the country and the world is ludicrous. The powers-at-be are
using the media to publicize the information at their (powers-at-be)
will. I am in the media and the competition is too intense and
severe...someone would jump the gun. You can blame the government(s)
on this one. The media just happens to be a convenient sounding board
when needed and it sometimes looks like the media is in charge. In
fact, we would probably know a lot more if it were entirely up to the
media.
From: tsi...@earthlink.net
Comment: We’re getting close to critical mass. The project is designed
to lift humankind over the next threshold of the evolution of our
species. We can’t exist much longer on the anthropolgical scale at our
current stage in development. Stasis is setting in which stresses the
integrity of our living system here on Earth. We must make a leap in
conciousness and “activate” our perceptual faculties of those
dimensions we don’t currently interact with conciously. It will be a
new plane of existence, a big leap for us but a small baby step in
light the incredible Universe we live in. When it’s all said and done,
you’ll feel as if you’ve been paroled from prison, never knowing you
were in one to begin with. Quite frankly, you won’t miss squat. So
quit complaining because there is nothing you can do about it. Like
that Nissan guy says, Life’s a Journey: Enjoy the ride!
From: Alie...@hotmil.com
Comment: I wonder if the increase of programs on television
concerning aliens is due to an increase in demand by viewers for this
subject. It doesnt take an economist to realize that television is
sponsored by big business. People watch the programs and thus
commercials that interest them the most. I am not bursting bubbles
here, I enjoy a mystery as much as the next person, however, a little
rational discussion might be more productive.
From: Anonymous
Comment: The best way to hide something is to make it totally
obvious.
Didn’t Hitler say that once? The whole thing is been here the whole
time. Look at the pyramids and Machu Pichu in Peru. The sad thing is
the shadow gov. thinks we can’t handle the truth. They are a bunch of
power hungry selfish arrogant snobs.....
From: jayb...@nrv.net
Comment: In my own feelings about such matters and my ongoing study of
many years, i feel the alien issue is a complex one and my paradigms
have been blown to pieces numerous times. my current thought is that
the aliens have been involved with the human race for millenia and
part of their agenda (at least the zeta group)is to cross-breed human
genetics with their own in order to survive. i understand they can
only reproduce through cloning, having lost the ability to
biologically reproduce through deliberate mutation of their
biogenetics, and this has progressively weakened their species’
survival capabilities. i sense that we’re not far from the time when
the existence of alien races will be revealed through our “controlled”
media. this will certainly change human culture in a way it’s never
been in the whole of human history. we are, perhaps, about to be
dropped into “galactic” or “universal” culture. my sense is that we’ve
been deliberately sheltered from knowing about the existence of extra-
terrestrials.
From: Anonymous
Comment: “ Correct me if i’m wrong, but I thought that I heard
something on the news about water being found on the moon. If this is
true, then I do believe that the media is preparing to tell us
something they knew all along. That there is other life existing
within our universe. I reading a Leading edge article, it was said
that the pictures from the men landing on the moon were fake, because
they were trying to hide the fact that there were other beings on the
moon. Could it be that they now want to tell us the truth?
From: Qur...@annex.com
Comment: “ It has become bitterly evident that the media is running
this country and we are told only what they choose to tell us.. the
truth we must gather on our own. Europe laughs at us because our
people are so uninformed and naive. They know more about our country
and what is going on in the world than we do..they always have.
It seems obvious that they are gearing up to “informing” us of the
et’s sometime in the near future. From what I have been told by an
Androemedan source by the end of first quarter 1997. The media only
seems to like to tell us things that generate fear so they can
continue their control, therefore one might guess that this informing
with be contrived and with a forethought purpose. After all, most of
us in “this” discussion group know the et’s have been around here alot
longer than we have and they know it. So it is going to happen now, it
is for a purpose of some sort of manipulation...maybe not but the
media is not my idea of “coming from the light”. What do you all
think?
I do, however, still believe that the human being is basically good if
we were left alone. Fear has been our downfall. Fear which can from
the manipulations of the gods!
From: Anonymous Comment: “ Generally, the whole alien agenda seems to
be of
a mixed nature. There are many paradigms in which one can elaborate
on this topic. We have to keep in mind that there are obviously
benevolent and manevolent e.t.’s in the known universe. The world
elite has knowledge of these beings, and is socially conditioning the
masses through the use of subliminal messages in everyday life. This
includes X-Files, Dark Skies, UFO Universe, etc...
From: Anonymous Comment: “ I agree with the person who wrote on the
11th
November, concerning the the bombardment of Alien programmes on TV. I
also am not surprised now that scientists are suggesting that there
might be life on Mars. In fact, I have a feeling that they knew all
along and that along with all the other alien programmes decided that
it’s the right time to begin to tell the public the truth. I’ve read
that by the year 2005 the aliens will reveal themselves to us, so
maybe all this information we are being fed with off the TV is to
prepare us for this coming.
I understand that if you look up at the stars what you are seeing is
in the past because of the time the light takes to get to us. Also,
the debris that fly off from other planets and hit earth takes
hundreds of years to get here. If that’s the case, what the scientists
have discoverd on a piece of rock from Mars, was actually from many
years ago, therefore, if there were signs of life, could these have
now developed into something more advanced by now?
From: qwerty@
Comment: “ I truly do hope that humanity gets some widespread
interraction
with benevolent aliens pretty soon or else the powers that be and
their
mindless minions probably will totally screw up the planet. It’s maybe
not
such a far-fetched thing to hope for; advanced space-faring creatures
ought
to be interested in a planet at the crossroads such as ours. It’s hard
to
guess at the “alien agenda” because the publicly available evidence of
their
behaviour doesn’t tell us much about their plans. Their possession of
the
superior technology necessary to travel through space may suggest
superior
intellectual and moral development - which would be good for us
monkeys -
but maybe they’re as rotten as the Romulans. If aliens met you and
could
telepathically scan your mind and your soul would they be impressed by
what
they found? If humans weren’t all getting stood on by the economic and
political regimes imposed upon us then I think humans would be
glorious, and
the aliens would recognise our beauty. I think the aliens would like
some of
what there is to see in us, but mostly they would be appalled, (unless
they
were Vogons...?) A fun topic to speculate on, this.qwertyu
From: Anonymous
Comment: “ It seems as though the government is getting us ready for
the annoncement that the aliens are really here by desensitizing us
with such programs as “Dark Skies” and “X Files”, “Close Encounters”
and now “Outer Limits” . You can’t turn the TV on anymore without
something about aliens and abductions. I’m really surprized about all
the information that’s come out in Dark Skies. I heard somewhere that
Steven Spielberg was doing a movie on Roswell and that when it was
released sometime in November, the government was going to tell the
people that they’re here. What about Hale Bopp? I understand that it
has turned direction about 4 times already. If it really is an Orion
ship then we”re in big doodoo.”
From: doc...@ix.netcom.com
Comment: “ When one steps aside for a brief moment and considers that
this planet has had the ability to house a wide range of different
types of lifeforms over the last 600 Million years and that we are a
fairly recent species to cover its surface, not a very intelligent one
unfortunately, is it any wonder that we in our ignorance fear all that
we don’t understand. For all we know this planet is the home to
thousands of more intelligent species vastly more on the cosmic ball
that other lifeforms that posses the type of carbon based life form
that we do. Perhaps when we decide to look at life and the process of
living among others who have developed their technologies way beyond
ours, we will witness transactions between alien species that are as
of yet unimaginable to our presently twisted view of things. We can
only be known to others anywhere by our behavior. If we insist on
acting like mindless rats on a sinking ship we deserve what’s coming
to us. For starters, if we all focused on excelling on mastering...
So... In closing I support the modification of the human species. I
only hope that those doing the upgrading are more on the ball than we
are. As we are CLUELESS as to fixing our own problems. The proof is
all around. Well, am I right or at least close? Our greatest handicap
as a species is asking for HELP. And boy do we need it NOW. Open to
replies.”
From: aqu...@OntheNet.com.au
Comment: “ I think we really need to research further the evidence in
books written over the last 2oo years on who is in this planet. There
has been ideas around for at least 100 years that human minds have
been manipulated with ancient technology under the surface of the
planet. Does anyone have further info on this? Lets discuss it...maybe
nothing that is happening today is anything new!
From: doom...@usa1.com
Comment: “ I think that even human beings with souls COULD sell out
humanity. I also believe that it has happened in the past (that
certain humans were in league with negative alien lifeforms). I agree
a lot with Drunvalo and Sitchin, but wonder if anyone out there
believes that there are “good” and “bad” Sirians. I personally have
always believed in the existence of the “good” ones. I don’t know much
about the so-called MIBs, but I do know one thing - they have always
instilled a sense of terror inside me, and I think that I have
encountered them in the past. I have felt that there was a connection
between the MIBs and some really nasty people in certain key positions
at the U.N. Perhaps it is all some sort of bad dream, but why are so
many of us having them. I don’t think even C.Jung had the answers.”
From: Unspecified
Comment: “ After reading Alex Collier’s comments from the Andromedans
and Drunvalo Melchizedek’s discussions from the Flower of Life
material, I feel that we are living in a time that will reveal
revelations that will freak out the average person and send the
Christian religion into a tailspin. I feel the secret part of our
government has been in league with negative aliens whose agenda is the
takeover of our planet and that’s why we have a New World Order. I
think the humans who are working with these negative aliens think that
they will be given positions of power by the aliens, but I think after
the aliens get what they want from them, they will kill them. Maybe
some are implanted and under mind control and that’s why they are
acting the way they’re acting. It;s have to believe that a human being
with a soul would sell out humanity just for power and wealth. It’s
more likely they are being controlled, or clonned, or their bodies
have been taken over by alien energies.
Whatever the reason behind it, people better wake up in a hurry, and
realize that we are losing all our freedoms . I hope that the
benevalent aliens will be there for us when we need them because I
don’t know how we can fight them without any technology.”
From: nyy...@aol.com
Comment: “ The whole thing may be leading to: (a) the preponderance of
evidence beyond control of our governments causing them to reveal the
truth, or as much of it as they have to; (b) the overt subjugation of
the planetary population by our governments and the negative aliens
(perhaps like the scenario depicted in the sci-fi series “V”) as the
positive aliens seem loathe to break the ‘prime directive’; © the ‘bad
guys’ kicked out and an era of freedom ushered in.
I choose C. But for it to happen we need the truth. It no longer
matters whether the population can or cannot handle the truths of our
existance on this planet and within our respective societies. Isn’t
the assumption to the negative one of the historical foundations for
the control/manipulation mechanisms that we live with? Without the
incontovertable truth that each individual on this planet can see,
accepted or not, all we have is fear and survival instincts with which
to choose. And fear is the mind killer. “
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Hagar" <ha...@sahm.name> wrote in message
>
> news:pZidnTlxjK6xtT3X...@giganews.com...> This will make you toss your lunch ...
> > HollyWeird's finest grinding out their humble
> > obsequiousness
> > in deference to the new Fuehrer ....
> > Missing were Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod carrying
> > the Hammer & Sickle flag and smartly saluting the
> > Messiah
> > with a heart-felt "Sieg Obama".
> > The second coming of National Socialism ... it failed
> > the first
> > time, but what the hell, we'll try it again.
>
> >www.youtube.com/watch?v=51kAw4OTlA0
>
> H
"H"eroin, why don't you pledge to try to make a tiny bit of logical
sense sometime in the Future®˘≥? Tanks in advance.
The Alien Agenda
Question: Indications have been over the years that distinct groups of
other humanoids exist on, in and around this planet which have varying
and overlapping agenda which appear to interface with that of the
human factions that control high technology, and that the whole
paradigm is quickly approaching a zenith of some kind. Based on your
internal gut feeling, and information you have gleaned from personal
experience or general research, where do you think this whole thing is
leading?
From: j...@neoucom.edu
Comment: Has anyone else experienced lots of UFO sightings in
Sedona,
AZ? I
had never seen at UFO until I went there. I not only saw many
UFOS,
but also saw an entity which was about 3 ft. tall, had a rather
amorphous shape, and sparkled like diamonds! The night I was out,
there was much UFO activity around a so-called “secret base”. Rumors
are that the base is a joint U.S. military/alien base. People in the
Sedona area have met up with military types (armed) while hiking in
the canyons around there, and have been escorted out of the canyons at
gunpoint. (According to Tom Dongo in his book about Sedona called
“Merging Dimensions”.) Whatever the alien agenda is, there are many
clues in the Sedona area.
From: d...@mbear.sfusd
We’re advancing re extraterrestrials, yet the discourse still suffers
from what extras disdain most in us: our tendency to lapse into self-
centered and infantile vernacular. Bad science, apocalyptic angst,
etc. are major impediments. More advanced civilizations communicate
more, faster, and in finer detail through telepathy. They can also
realize understandings and sensitivities not possible with our slowed,
retarded wave function-only way of using only our mouths. There is
also a larger order, yet as far as I can see, not a rigid heirarchy,
among/between various extras. The “grays” are seen as stodgy in their
own way, by some others. Remember, they live much longer than we do,
hence a “gray” who still sweats and resents crashing at Roswell may
yet linger on duty re us. We are evolving much faster than they are,
relatively speaking, at present. “Grays” are very smart, yet their
leadership is not as flexible re our readiness as are other
populations, i.e. the “Elders” Alec Newald writes about. The truth is,
we need to evolve the terms of both our own global interaction and our
interaction with the “grays” in order to prevent a shadow regime of
elitist CIA/cabal types who might try to bury advanced knowledge in
order to yoke us to to the same old classist/elitist archaic religious
stone, by which they profit callously. The truth is within (nonlocal)
not “out there” referentially.
From: gonzo...@hotmail.com
“The name of the game is “Find Your Adversary”. Your adversary’s game
plan
is to convince you that he does not exist.” ----W.S. Burroughs
There is so much paranoia (or legitimate fear) and disinformation out
there that we probably won’t know for sure what’s going on until they
take over. Clearly, there is some kind of “subculture” indoctrination
going on, using X-files, Star Trek, MIB, and all the new alien logo
shit to make the notion of discussing UFOs seriously seem cheap and
insane - yet at the same time, the paranormal stuff is “safe” in this
form because it’s marketable and we are subconsciously getting used to
the idea of not being alone here. The problem with peaceful, open
contact is our xenophobia - and the unseen “ulterior” agendas of our
own gov’t and the greys, which could be paranoia - or truly justified
fear. In a universe where literally anything is possible, the wwo are
indistinguishable.
From: STARSO...@CLDS.NET
Comment: From some very frightening personal experiences,
coupled with
years
of study, I have come to the conclusion humanity is being
“conditioned” to accept an organic, inter-galactic origin for these
beings. I mean we are meant to believe these aliens are material in
existence. I believe they are spiritual and have their origins in
another demension. That they have the ability to pass in and out of
our demension is obvious enough. Anyone who has done any study in
demonalogy and the parapsychic knows the close relationship between
much of the alien activity, its post-effects and demon posession. I
would agree there is indeed a Cosmic conflict that spans the ages.
Lucifer has done a good job thus far in converting this planet (or at
least Earth’s leadership) to his spin on God, Christ and the Bible.
The prophets of the Old Testement predicted the things that are
happening at this moment. Curious too how the Nazis and many other
occultic groups have a similar thread of anti-Semitism.
From: AFSWAL...@aol.com
From: guard...@otenet.gr
What I want to submit is a subject rather ignorred in the Net. What
many don’t know is the role of Greece (Hellas) in the afairs of the
world, since... a great time ago, till the present. Most of you may
think of my coutry (yes I am Greek, but believe me it doesn’t affect
my judgement - if you seek the facts you will understand) as a poor
and once great... nation. From a point of view this is very true. My
country has been pushed into poverty by our own stupidity, and from
the course of actions by its’ greatest “enemies”, the known zionists.
This is not a political issue though. If you trace the zionist cult
way back in time, you will stumble upon a variety of allien-related
material. Words as: Metatron..., Asmondai, Lilith, etc. Ring a bell?
If you seek the astronomical data of several ancient civi- lizations
you will discover a time when the Earth’s moon was not in place. Why?
What is the link to Greece (Aristotelis - Nasa - NSA - Secret
societies - ufos’ in 1947 - ufos’ to come - the origin of some ufos)
and more, I will soon post. Data on this, and MUCH more will be soon
sent. It is up to you to verify the validity ...
HVAC
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The Alien Agenda
Question: Indications have been over the years that distinct groups of
other humanoids exist on, in and around this planet
Oh Noes! Not the humanoidz!
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie...@zzz.com> wrote in messagenews:b01809a2-0376-42a3...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
> The Alien Agenda
> Question: Indications have been over the years that distinct groups of
> other humanoids exist on, in and around this planet
>
> Oh Noes! Not the humanoidz!
YES, the human-oids, although this may not compete with your
hemorrhoids. You may want to use Preparation "H". Your pal "H"eroin
knows all about it. Hardy-har-har!!!
Later!
Sir arTiØ
H.
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
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Of course I know about Preparation "H" you swallow it
all the time to put out the ridiculous shit that you
do. Tons and tons of unsubstantiated, ridiculous shit.
H.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."<scie...@zzz.com> wrote in message
For some reason the notification that you can not post here anymore
must not have arrived at your mailbox. I guess your debunker cave
does not have a mailbox. No matter, let me make this perfectly clear,
these newsgroups have banned ALL debunkers and spOOks, and since you
are both, you are doubly banned.
Thank goodness Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. is here to fight
for Truth, justice and the American Way. Because debunkers are on
record to destroy those things. WE MUST NOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN!!!!!