While giving out the credit card details, a woman's voice
was heard in the background.
Glenys now has a web site here:
http://web.globalserve.net/~glenys/
The identical site is also present here:
where the incredible Curley web site appeared briefly
on Sunday.
In a garbled article, Curley claimed that his site would,
incredibly, appear again on the 29th.
Will this prediction come true, or his haircut shot
himself in the foot ... again?
--
John Atkinson
http://www.manx2.demon.co.uk/index.htm
Email: j...@bigfoot.com
Not no more, there is a 'we have moved message'
>
> where the incredible Curley web site appeared briefly
> on Sunday.
>
> In a garbled article, Curley claimed that his site would,
> incredibly, appear again on the 29th.
>
> Will this prediction come true, or his haircut shot
> himself in the foot ... again?
So lets get this straight
Earl get job with Globalserve
Earl and Globalserve part company
Earl slags off Globalserve saying they are in poor financial position
Earl slags off Globalserve saying the management is crap
Earl recommends his client uses Globalserve?
Are they not as bad as you made out Earl?
--
Chris.
> John Atkinson wrote:
> > Glenys now has a web site here:
> >
> > http://web.globalserve.net/~glenys/
> >
> > The identical site is also present here:
> > http://home.ica.net/~gfbb/
> Not no more, there is a 'we have moved message'
> > where the incredible Curley web site appeared briefly
> > on Sunday.
> >
> > In a garbled article, Curley claimed that his site would,
> > incredibly, appear again on the 29th.
> >
> > Will this prediction come true, or his haircut shot
> > himself in the foot ... again?
>
> So lets get this straight
>
> Earl get job with Globalserve
> Earl and Globalserve part company
> Earl slags off Globalserve saying they are in poor financial position
> Earl slags off Globalserve saying the management is crap
> Earl recommends his client uses Globalserve?
>
> Are they not as bad as you made out Earl?
> --
> Chris.
Gee, I wonder if Earl will soon have a website piggybacking the Airport
Executive Suites pages, this time on Globalserve!
"Look Glenys, I can get us a two-for-one deal at Globalserve, just give
me your credit card. Don't worry your pretty head about trying to send
files yourself, I'll handle that end. I'll vouchsafe your password.You
can trust me. I have my own toaster!
Funny, what's with a busy bachelor executive like Earl (he just raised
2.5 million for TLC Corp) doing chump change activities like setting up
one-page web sites?
Was it boy-meets-girl in airport bar?
No matter what, Earl, PLEASE stop using Red Letters on a Blue
Background!
It's almost more irritating than you are!
end transmission
You ignorant piece of crap. Do you know that it is a criminal offense
to harass women on the Internet? The next time either one of you idiots
harass Ms. Bryant, I strongly suggest you speak to a criminal lawyer.
In case you haven't read or listened to the news reports, four weeks ago
an asshole like you was extradited from the US to face harrassment
charges here in Canada.
Each of your posts, Atkinson's and Sabastian's are being given to the
authorities and from my understanding I expect them to be in contact
with your ISPs shortly.
In case you want to deny your crap, on the Response Form are the details
of your access and shown by:
Whois Search Results
Whois returned the following information for 206.171.250:
InterNIC Registration (NETBLK-INTERNIC-BLK4) INTERNIC-BLK4
206.0.0.0 -
206.255.255.0
Pacific Bell Internet Services,Inc. (NETBLK-PBI-NET-1) PBI-NET-1
206.170.0.0 -
206.171.255.0
To single out one record, look it up with "!xxx", where xxx is the
handle, shown in parenthesis following the name, which comes first.
The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet
Information
(Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's).
Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information.
For the three of you assholes so far, keep up the good work. You're all
doing me a favor because I'd sooner see you behind bars than in a court
room in a civil action. Harass me all you care to idiots but when you
start harassing women and innocent victums, your days are coming to an
end.
Earl Curley
e_cu...@hotmail.com
>Curley telephoned Globalserve a few days ago and set up
>an account in the name of Glenys Bryant, the owner or
>manager of Airport Executive Suites, where he has a room
>and his own toaster.
Dija notice that the imbedded URL for web.design.ca takes you to Glenys'
comment and reservation page?
>While giving out the credit card details, a woman's voice
>was heard in the background.
Probably Mary Jo bitchin' about the shared bathroom arrangement.
>In a garbled article, Curley claimed that his site would,
>incredibly, appear again on the 29th.
Now that Glenys is onto the scam, will she let it ride?
I wonder how many free days she traded for that sorry looking site? The
graphic ain't bad, but it does have the typical Curly layout- and that red
square highlight!
>Will this prediction come true, or his haircut shot
>himself in the foot ... again?
He probably does not have any feet left! He's gotta be up to the kneecaps
by now.
hutch
"Once an idea is created, it never disappears, no matter
how often it is disproved" -- as quoted by Milton Rothman
Earl speaks from experience.
> In case you haven't read or listened to the news reports, four weeks
ago
> an asshole like you was extradited from the US to face harrassment
> charges here in Canada.
Whatever; where do you come up with this shit from? A summary conviction
offense that warrants extradition, not likely.
> Each of your posts, Atkinson's and Sabastian's are being given to the
> authorities and from my understanding I expect them to be in contact
> with your ISPs shortly.
Okay Earl, care to explain your lies? This was the response received by
gf...@ica.net
---------------
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 22:23:35 -0800
From: Glenys Bryant <gf...@ica.net>
Organization: Airport Executive Suites
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win16; I)
To: steve.s...@ibm.net
Subject: Re: Do you realize
Steve Sebastian wrote:
> Do you realize that your account is being used for your webdesign
> firms personal use.
>
> http://home.ica.net/~gfbb/psychic/
>
> Also be advised that libelous accusations made by Earl Gordon Curley,
> will bring some very bad publicity your way.
>
> Steve Sebastian
How do you know that this is happening?
How did you detect it.
I do not understand how Mr. Curley could do this or how would he benefit
from it.
Please advise.
Thanks, GB
-------------
One letter notifying of your illegal activities, does not harrassment
make. To have a case of criminal harrassment, it must be repeated,
unwanted communique with the subject, of a detrimental nature.
Now go back to your room and hide under your bed before I make a bigger
fool of you, then you already are. If that is possible.
> In case you want to deny your crap, on the Response Form are the details
> of your access and shown by:
>
> Whois Search Results
>
> Whois returned the following information for 206.171.250:
>
> InterNIC Registration (NETBLK-INTERNIC-BLK4) INTERNIC-BLK4
> 206.0.0.0 -
> 206.255.255.0
> Pacific Bell Internet Services,Inc. (NETBLK-PBI-NET-1) PBI-NET-1
> 206.170.0.0 -
> 206.171.255.0
>
> To single out one record, look it up with "!xxx", where xxx is the
> handle, shown in parenthesis following the name, which comes first.
>
> The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet
> Information
> (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's).
> Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information.
Once again communicating with someone does not harrassment make, why did
you leave out the message sent? Oh, because it showed clearly that it
was not harrassing. Go and pickle your liver Earl, that's all you are
good for.
> For the three of you assholes so far, keep up the good work. You're
all
> doing me a favor because I'd sooner see you behind bars than in a
court
> room in a civil action. Harass me all you care to idiots but when
you
> start harassing women and innocent victums, your days are coming to
an
> end.
Here it is, the martyr complex. Do all you want to me, but leave the
poor innocent victims alone. NEWSFLASH...Earl; you are the only
perpetrator of crimes in this scenario. Be them civil, or be them
criminal. Your attempt to play innocent is so transparent, that nobody
believes it.
> Earl Curley
> e_cu...@hotmail.com
Steve Sebastian
Now, is that nice? No, but it's Earl!
> Do you know that it is a criminal offense
> to harass women on the Internet?
Yes, I read that somewhere. Actually, I believe it's not restricted to
women. However, harrassment by definition means an offense must be
repeated more than once. It doesn't apply to single communications by a
plurality of people.
>The next time either one of you idiots
> harass Ms. Bryant,
There has been no harrassment, idiot.
> I strongly suggest you speak to a criminal lawyer.
That would be prudent only if one were charged with a crime first. And
since there has been no crime committed, and certainly no harrassment,
there is no cause for criminal charges to be filed.
Capisce?
> In case you haven't read or listened to the news reports, four weeks ago
> an asshole like you was extradited from the US to face harrassment
> charges here in Canada.
I do read and listen to news reports; I must have missed that one. Can
you email me a copy? Thanks!
> Each of your posts, Atkinson's and Sabastian's are being given to the
> authorities and from my understanding I expect them to be in contact
> with your ISPs shortly.
Gee! Whatever for? I don't think I will hold my breath, but it is nice
that you are giving those authorities the gift of laughter this holiday
season.
>
> In case you want to deny your crap, on the Response Form are the details
> of your access and shown by:
>
> Whois Search Results
>
> Whois returned the following information for 206.171.250:
>
> InterNIC Registration (NETBLK-INTERNIC-BLK4) INTERNIC-BLK4
> 206.0.0.0 -
> 206.255.255.0
> Pacific Bell Internet Services,Inc. (NETBLK-PBI-NET-1) PBI-NET-1
> 206.170.0.0 -
> 206.171.255.0
>
> To single out one record, look it up with "!xxx", where xxx is the
> handle, shown in parenthesis following the name, which comes first.
>
> The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet
> Information
> (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's).
> Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information.
Oh, my, that was certainly thorough!
You left out something very important! The text of the message!
I certainly won't deny it; it went something like this:
"Please speak to your Web Master. The link to the Suites Photo album is
broken, and results in a "page not found" error message. You haven't
paid this guy yet, have you?"
(I just tried it again, and the link is still broken. Not even a "page
under construction" message. I thought it only appropriate to whoever
runs Airport Executive Suites of the fact that the website is
incomplete.)
Now, please tell me how that post could be regarded as anything but a
helpful bit of notification and an innocuous question?
I admit, I did have a little fun with it. I signed in as Mary Jo Willy
at sockpup.com
So now I guess Mary Jo is one of MY sock puppets as well!
Does Canada have extradition laws for people who share sock puppets?
>
> For the three of you assholes so far,
Now, now, watch your language! Someone might accuse you of harrassing
people!
>keep up the good work.
I wish I could say the same for you. That web site is not very
sophisticated, and I think it does a disservice to your client to have
it parading around unfinished like that. Really, Earl, you can't even
keep your own website on the Web. You'll have to do better than that for
paying customers.
> You're all doing me a favor because I'd sooner see you behind bars than in a court
> room in a civil action.
Translation: If he had to meet us in a civil court action he'd lose.
> Harass me all you care to idiots
Thanks for the permission!
> but when you start harassing women and innocent victums,
I will agree that she may be an innocent victim, the question to be
answered shortly is, of whom?
Is piggybacking your website onto a clients' something that is normal?
I would think it somewhat unethical, in fact criminal, if done without
the client's knowledge or permission.
You're not, uh, trying to stop people from communicating with the
"innocent victim" as a coverup to keep something untoward from her
awareness, are you?
> your days are coming to an end.
From the moment of birth, one could say. But you were always a "glass
half empty" kinda guy. Or is that the bottle all the way empty?
Don't take it personally. Earl enjoys blowing smoke, to cover his lies,
and change the subject.
> Yes, I read that somewhere. Actually, I believe it's not restricted to
> women. However, harrassment by definition means an offense must be
> repeated more than once. It doesn't apply to single communications by a
> plurality of people.
Most correct, and it must be unwanted communication of a detrimental
nature. If the person doesn't write back to tell you to stop, it doesn't
warrant any kind of complaint.
> There has been no harrassment, idiot.
He knows this full well, he must be hiding something.
> That would be prudent only if one were charged with a crime first. And
> since there has been no crime committed, and certainly no harrassment,
> there is no cause for criminal charges to be filed.
> Capisce?
Earl gets confused at times between past present and future, he is
thinking about his past when he speaks of harrassing women. This is a
public service announcement by Earl Curley.
> I do read and listen to news reports; I must have missed that one. Can
> you email me a copy? Thanks!
You didn't miss it, only Earl occupies this reality, no visitors
allowed.
> Gee! Whatever for? I don't think I will hold my breath, but it is nice
> that you are giving those authorities the gift of laughter this holiday
> season.
Let us hope he actually does it.
> Oh, my, that was certainly thorough!
> You left out something very important! The text of the message!
I noticed that as well.
> I admit, I did have a little fun with it. I signed in as Mary Jo Willy
> at sockpup.com
> So now I guess Mary Jo is one of MY sock puppets as well!
> Does Canada have extradition laws for people who share sock puppets?
whoa....better get a lawyer your going away for life, for that!!
Seriously, it doesn't matter how you sign it. Earl is an idiot, still
trying to use threats of legal action to intimidate.
> I wish I could say the same for you. That web site is not very
> sophisticated, and I think it does a disservice to your client to have
> it parading around unfinished like that. Really, Earl, you can't even
> keep your own website on the Web. You'll have to do better than that for
> paying customers.
All Earl does is disservices. Everyone who interacts with him can attest
to that.
> Translation: If he had to meet us in a civil court action he'd lose.
you have Earl translations to an art form.
> Thanks for the permission!
You are one of the chosen few, grasshopper.
> I will agree that she may be an innocent victim, the question to be
> answered shortly is, of whom?
Of Earl, that's why all the smoke blowing. Either that or he is blowing
his top.
> Is piggybacking your website onto a clients' something that is normal?
For Earl, it's all part of that unwritten deal.
> I would think it somewhat unethical, in fact criminal, if done without
> the client's knowledge or permission.
Earl defines criminal as whatever suits him.
> You're not, uh, trying to stop people from communicating with the
> "innocent victim" as a coverup to keep something untoward from her
> awareness, are you?
exactly..
> From the moment of birth, one could say. But you were always a "glass
> half empty" kinda guy. Or is that the bottle all the way empty?
He could build a house out of his empty bottles.
Steve Sebastian
No, Earl. Post it. Or at least a decent citation of it.
I've searched the whole internet for "+extradited +canada
+harrass*" and not found any material at all relating to
this story.
You'd think there'd be one or two paragraphs about it
lying around somewhere.
--Blair
"Unless it was a complete
fabrication..."
Cam you say libel?
> Also do you think it's proper for a psychotic asshole like you to try to harrass a
> 15 year girl into going out with you on New Years Eve?
Do you think a psychotic asshole like you should harrass all of Usenet
with your lies and made up "email" accusations?
> I predicted that you'd see bars and I'm telling you one thing Sabastian,
> IF this post is accurate and IF you even make contact with the child one
> more time, I'll personally cut your balls out.
I doubt you would do anything but stand there and stammer "but but but"
as Sabastian bashed your teeth out (assuming he could drag you out from
under your bed).
<snip obvious fraud>
And now a letter I received from a young lady who's name I will not
divulge to protect her from Earl:
--------
>Dear Joe,
>
>Who's that scary guy on Usenet, and what's that on his head? How come he's such an ass >to everyone? Please don't post this email as I don't want to get his attention, he >looks kinda evil.
>
>Take care, keep bashing the kooks (not to be mean, but it's funny).
>
>[Name Cut]
>
>PS What's the www address to the skepticult?
--------
Well [name cut], fear not the Kooky-One...his barf is worse than his
bite. I don't think he has any teeth, his arguments sure don't. I don't
know what's on his head. He's an ass because he has no life.
Sabastian: save Earl's post, it will come in handy should you decide to
sue his ass.
(then again, if all you want is a bunch of cans you can go collect them
yourself).
--
J. White /\ ? "And I have already debunked the
Lowly Chartist /\ / \/ idea that I wear underwear on
Technical Heretic / \/ on any part of my body"
http://www.hooked.net/users/whitetek -Edmond Wollman
/\ /\/
/\/ \ /\ / Memeber of the Fierce
/ \/ \/ Skept-Ti-Cult® ID:79-37645-562
>You ignorant piece of crap. Do you know that it is a criminal offense
>to harass women on the Internet? The next time either one of you idiots
>harass Ms. Bryant, I strongly suggest you speak to a criminal lawyer.
>In case you haven't read or listened to the news reports, four weeks ago
>an asshole like you was extradited from the US to face harrassment
>charges here in Canada.
Gee- now do tell us what the punishment is for fraudulent use of another's
account for your own personal gain. Can they exradite you from the Airport
Executive Suites for that?
>Each of your posts, Atkinson's and Sabastian's are being given to the
>authorities and from my understanding I expect them to be in contact
>with your ISPs shortly.
And, of course after- and IF- the "authorities" do contact Steve or John,
they will, of course, be _most _ anxious to talk to the individual who
attempted to piggyback a bogus page of "predictions" on someone elses
account- without their knowledge.
Ah well- this is just another chapter in Earl's attempts to show off his
lack of skills in bamboozeling the usenet. Earl- you've been found out
again. You realize, of course, that after Mrs Bryant throws you out, you
may have to get that cardboard box out of storage again.
Maybe Dr. Romberg can put you up for a while?
I predicted that you'd see bars and I'm telling you one thing Sabastian,
IF this post is accurate and IF you even make contact with the child one
more time, I'll personally cut your balls out.
Earl Curley
e_cu...@hotmail.com
P.S. I've changed the child's e-mail address and name to protect her
from the other perverts like Atkinson who loves to telephone harrass
women in the middle of the night, like Sabastian does.
From ********@aims.on.ca Mon Dec 29 19:31:38 1997
Received: from 192.168.1.206 ([204.92.72.7] (may be forged))
by bree.aims.on.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id WAA10010
for <e_cu...@hotmail.com>; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:31:47 -0500
Message-ID: <34A85D...@aims.on.ca>
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:34:28 -0400
From: ******* <*******@aims.on.ca>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: e_cu...@hotmail.com
Subject: Can you help?
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> P.S. If anyone else has been subjected to
> Sabastian's behavior, please send me the details by
> e-mail (Bruce, etc.)
Dear Earl,
I ran across your post in alt.astrology regarding Steve Sebastian.
I am a 15 year old girl. I was in the chat room when Steve Sebastian
came into the teen channel,and started talking to me.
And ended up inviting me to the Palladium for New Years eve.
When I found out that he was 27, I turned him down.
He started to email me more and more, to try to get me
to meet with him at the Palladium.
Each email became more and more aggressive and intimidating.
I am scared to go to my parents, like they told me not to use the
internet to talk to people in the chat area.
I am afraid they will punish me. Can you help me?
***name******
Steve Sebastian wrote:
>
> anonym wrote:
> >
> > Now, is that nice? No, but it's Earl!
>
> Don't take it personally. Earl enjoys blowing smoke, to cover his lies,
> and change the subject.
>
> > Yes, I read that somewhere. Actually, I believe it's not restricted to
> > women. However, harrassment by definition means an offense must be
> > repeated more than once. It doesn't apply to single communications by a
> > plurality of people.
>
> Most correct, and it must be unwanted communication of a detrimental
> nature. If the person doesn't write back to tell you to stop, it doesn't
> warrant any kind of complaint.
>
> > There has been no harrassment, idiot.
>
> He knows this full well, he must be hiding something.
>
> > That would be prudent only if one were charged with a crime first. And
> > since there has been no crime committed, and certainly no harrassment,
> > there is no cause for criminal charges to be filed.
>
> > Capisce?
>
> Earl gets confused at times between past present and future, he is
> thinking about his past when he speaks of harrassing women. This is a
> public service announcement by Earl Curley.
>
> > I do read and listen to news reports; I must have missed that one. Can
> > you email me a copy? Thanks!
>
That's an email, Earl, not a post.
BTW, did you get this young woman's permission to copy her
copyrighted material to the net? Did you explain to her first
that her alleged pursuer would undoubtedly recognize who she
is and attempt retribution against her?
Of course not. She'd have to exist, first.
>behavior and for your information I have immediately submitted the
>following to Cst. Yates for his disposal. By the way, if the young girl
>who wrote the post is legitimate, I can assure you that a jail term is
I rather doubt she is. Your sock puppets are much older
than fifteen years.
>in order. For all you other idiots who have supported that asshole, I'm
>sure you're all proud to stand behind him now.
Surely I will.
>I predicted that you'd see bars and I'm telling you one thing Sabastian,
>IF this post is accurate and IF you even make contact with the child one
>more time, I'll personally cut your balls out.
"One more time" than zero, eh, Curley-boy?
Next time you try to act as witness for the prosecution,
remember that to make it plausible you would yourself
have to be above reproach, should you be called to
testify. And as a witness for the prosecution, Earl,
you comprise a hell of a defense.
And I'd be hard pressed to find a precedent for
sock puppets as visual aids, even in Canadian
court proceedings.
>P.S. I've changed the child's e-mail address and name to protect her
Her email address is the same as yours, and I believe that
her name, before you removed her from that twee little hanger
and cardboard sleeve, was Fruit of the Loom.
>from the other perverts like Atkinson who loves to telephone harrass
>women in the middle of the night, like Sabastian does.
You fool nobody, Earl.
--Blair
"Not even your landlady."
[Curley tries to legal-beagle anonym's post to construe criminal
harrassment of women:]
>
>You ignorant piece of crap. Do you know that it is a criminal offense
>to harass women on the Internet? The next time either one of you idiots
>harass Ms. Bryant, I strongly suggest you speak to a criminal lawyer.
>In case you haven't read or listened to the news reports, four weeks ago
>an asshole like you was extradited from the US to face harrassment
>charges here in Canada.
Is that right, Earl? Harrassing women is a criminal offense in
Canada? If only you weren't such a loonie, we'd love to believe you.
The Mounties always doo get their man, after all.
Do you remember how you won an unprecedented second Ångstrom Medal?
Let me refresh your memory.
*********************************************
Subject: Re: RANDI RUN'S AWAY
From: Earl Curley <psy...@globalserve.net>
Date: 1997/03/14
Message-ID: <3329E0...@globalserve.net>
Newsgroups:alt.paranormal,alt.paranet.paranormal,alt.fan.art-bell,sci.skeptic,alt.paranet.skeptic
[other stuff snipped]
Kristine Campbell wrote:
>
> i have lots of helpful, free advice for you brucie babe, but i doubt you'd
> take it....
>
> kristine
Hey, a female. I guess she just got off her rag and decided to spew
some venom to relieve her pain.
Earl Curley
psy...@globalserve.net
http://www.webdesign.ca/
*********************************************
Is this how you show proper respect to ladies, Earl? Do you talk to
your mother like that? Does Mary Jo get off on these kinds of sweet
nothings?
>
>Each of your posts, Atkinson's and Sabastian's are being given to the
>authorities and from my understanding I expect them to be in contact
>with your ISPs shortly.
>
>In case you want to deny your crap, on the Response Form are the details
>of your access and shown by:
See the archives, Curley. Queen DAN will provide you the URL.
dr. digger, PMAFA
Another SKEP-TI-CULTist®
Ångstrom Medal Page:
http://www2.skepticult.org/angstrom/
Earl, I don't harass young girls on the teen chat lines, nor do I hang
around in the teen chat lines.
> think it's proper for a psychotic asshole like you to try to harrass a
> 15 year girl into going out with you on New Years Eve? Well the post I
...this is original. How would you like me to answer this Earl? Have you
thought about quiting the booze?
> recieved and oposted below can attest to your sick perverted criminal
> behavior and for your information I have immediately submitted the
> following to Cst. Yates for his disposal. By the way, if the young girl
Please be my guest. I have nothing to fear. You have guts Earl, I didn't
think you had it in you. I give him a 10 for originality and a 100 for
psychosis.
> who wrote the post is legitimate, I can assure you that a jail term is
> in order. For all you other idiots who have supported that asshole, I'm
> sure you're all proud to stand behind him now.
Earl, this is a poor attempt at trying to discredit me. Funny how this
came "supposedly" before I sent my post to anonym, how convenient.
> I predicted that you'd see bars and I'm telling you one thing Sabastian,
> IF this post is accurate and IF you even make contact with the child one
> more time, I'll personally cut your balls out.
>
> Earl Curley
> e_cu...@hotmail.com
As accurate as you decided to make it in your reality. So who did you
get to send this to you? Does Earl have a friend? EARL HAS LOST HIS
MIND.
> P.S. I've changed the child's e-mail address and name to protect her
> from the other perverts like Atkinson who loves to telephone harrass
> women in the middle of the night, like Sabastian does.
How kind of you, to protect her identity. I read it, if it was real, why
would you even post it? Neither myself or John harrass, or even call
women in the middle of the night to harrass them. According to the
following little post, I do that by email...heh..what a freak.
> From ********@aims.on.ca Mon Dec 29 19:31:38 1997
> Received: from 192.168.1.206 ([204.92.72.7] (may be forged))
IP addresses could not be found.
"(may be forged))"?? hey I know all my emails come with that little
tidbit.
> by bree.aims.on.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id WAA10010
> for <e_cu...@hotmail.com>; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:31:47 -0500
> Message-ID: <34A85D...@aims.on.ca>
> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:34:28 -0400
> From: ******* <*******@aims.on.ca>
Okay, he is claiming it is someone from "aims.on.ca" that sent this
post. Amazing an Etobicoke company. [Applied Information Management
Services (AIMS)
Complete Internet, Training, and Business Consulting Services]. The
first choice of 15 year old girls.
> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC)
> MIME-Version: 1.0
hmmm...a Macintosh, but a PPC? I don't know much about Macs to comment
on this. A fifteen year old girl with a Macintosh? Is it the trend?
> To: e_cu...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Can you help?
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Headers
A plea for help, to Earl Curley nonetheless, strange, very strange.
> > P.S. If anyone else has been subjected to
> > Sabastian's behavior, please send me the details by
> > e-mail (Bruce, etc.)
A peice of his post. Nice touch.
> Dear Earl,
>
> I ran across your post in alt.astrology regarding Steve Sebastian.
> I am a 15 year old girl. I was in the chat room when Steve Sebastian
> came into the teen channel,and started talking to me.
Precious, just precious. She just happens to read alt.astrology where
Earl decided to post this to. A fifteen year old girl that decides to
make Earl her confidante. I know that would be my first choice. It just
happens to come the day after I tell him to dig deeper. It just happens
to match the lies he tells about me; strange.
> And ended up inviting me to the Palladium for New Years eve.
> When I found out that he was 27, I turned him down.
The Palladium?? (do you mean the Playdium? The huge arcade in
MISSISSAUGA? hmmm isn't the Airport Executive Suites in Mississauga).
You got my age wrong by two years, but a good guess nonetheless. I don't
recall if I ever posted it before?
> He started to email me more and more, to try to get me
> to meet with him at the Palladium.
I see. Convenient that you did not include these emails that I
supposedly sent to her? Why is that?
> Each email became more and more aggressive and intimidating.
ummm...yeah right. Where are they Earl? Why did you not include them?
> I am scared to go to my parents, like they told me not to use the
> internet to talk to people in the chat area.
> I am afraid they will punish me. Can you help me?
She is scared to go to her parents, yet she goes to you?
"like they told me"?? I love that valley girl touch.
That is a classic last line. She is afraid they will punish her for
doing something, that she is not supposed to be doing. Yet "aggressive
and intimidating" email are less scary then her punishment? Give me a
break Earl, you get a zero for believability Earl.
>
> ***name******
That is a pretty name you gave her Earl.
If this was true, why would you place it on public?
If this was a real post, by a real 15 year old girl, that is supposedly
scared of me, why would he inform me and everyone here about it? Would I
not know who this person was? Would I not be more angry, for her telling
Earl?
I tell him to dig, and remarkably the very next day he gets a mysterious
post that so conveniently helps him out. A post that supposedly proves
his case almost to a T? It was creative, I'll give him that; however it
was more transparent then his usual attempts.
Steve Sebastian
PS - I included alt.astrology. Why did you keep out alt.astrology, as a
newsgroup??
SNIP! a bit of his b.s.
>
> I predicted that you'd see bars
You also predicted Hurricanes in Texas, and that you web sie would be up
today. There weren't, and it isn't.
>and I'm telling you one thing Sabastian,
> IF this post is accurate and IF you even make contact with the child one
> more time,
Leaving himself the "big out", he thinks.
Earl, you just don't get it, do you? You're doing the exact same thing
that got you a libel suit by Randi; publishing defamatory information
that you don't know is true are not. Jesus, you are so fucking stupid.
But a hell of a lot of fun, too!
> I'll personally cut your balls out.
Hmm, what are the extradition rules for extraditing someone's testicles
without a note from their doctor? Or for that matter, for making threats
of physical violence?
>
> P.S. I've changed the child's e-mail address and name to protect her
> from the other perverts like Atkinson who loves to telephone harrass
> women in the middle of the night, like Sabastian does.
But who's stopping YOU from harassing her, eh, Earl?
>
> From ********@aims.on.ca Mon Dec 29 19:31:38 1997
> Received: from 192.168.1.206 ([204.92.72.7] (may be forged))
"may be forged", eh? Oh, I guess that about covers it, then! Then I
guess Earls reliance on it "may" constitute the basis for another libel
case against him!
>
> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC)
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
>
> hmmm...a Macintosh, but a PPC? I don't know much about Macs to comment
> on this. A fifteen year old girl with a Macintosh? Is it the trend?
>
Moot point, Steve. Take off a couple of originality points; Earl didn't
make up that part; he simply copied the info from his own posting
headers. (PPC means PowerPC-Native coded for Mac vers. of Netscape)
Goddamn it, where's Amazing Discoveries Behind the Canadian Curtain?
I don't care if it piggybacks on Riley G's website; I want to see it and
I want to see it NOW!
If Earl's gonna piggyback his website somewhere, why not with Romberg?
After all, isn't Earl a big executive in Romberg's company?
Hey, Earl, if they extradite me, do I fly first or business class?
Will the in-flight movie be one with Steve Guttenberg in it?
I HATE Steve Guttenberg!
My own best guess to start would be a very strong saturn/Neptune.
As follows:
Steve Sebastian <steve.s...@ibm.net> wrote:
quote"Earl Curley wrote:
quote">
quote"> Sabastian, why don't you explain to the people in these threads how you
quote"> enjoy harrassing young 15 years girls in teen chat lines. Also do you
quote"
quote"Earl, I don't harass young girls on the teen chat lines, nor do I hang
quote"around in the teen chat lines.
quote"
quote"> think it's proper for a psychotic asshole like you to try to harrass a
quote"> 15 year girl into going out with you on New Years Eve? Well the post I
quote"
quote"...this is original. How would you like me to answer this Earl? Have you
quote"thought about quiting the booze?
quote"
quote"> recieved and oposted below can attest to your sick perverted criminal
quote"> behavior and for your information I have immediately submitted the
quote"> following to Cst. Yates for his disposal. By the way, if the young girl
quote"
quote"Please be my guest. I have nothing to fear. You have guts Earl, I didn't
quote"think you had it in you. I give him a 10 for originality and a 100 for
quote"psychosis.
quote"
quote"> who wrote the post is legitimate, I can assure you that a jail term is
quote"> in order. For all you other idiots who have supported that asshole, I'm
quote"> sure you're all proud to stand behind him now.
quote"
quote"Earl, this is a poor attempt at trying to discredit me. Funny how this
quote"came "supposedly" before I sent my post to anonym, how convenient.
quote"
quote"> I predicted that you'd see bars and I'm telling you one thing Sabastian,
quote"> IF this post is accurate and IF you even make contact with the child one
quote"> more time, I'll personally cut your balls out.
quote">
quote"> Earl Curley
quote"> e_cu...@hotmail.com
quote"
quote"As accurate as you decided to make it in your reality. So who did you
quote"get to send this to you? Does Earl have a friend? EARL HAS LOST HIS
quote"MIND.
quote"
quote"> P.S. I've changed the child's e-mail address and name to protect her
quote"> from the other perverts like Atkinson who loves to telephone harrass
quote"> women in the middle of the night, like Sabastian does.
quote"
quote"How kind of you, to protect her identity. I read it, if it was real, why
quote"would you even post it? Neither myself or John harrass, or even call
quote"women in the middle of the night to harrass them. According to the
quote"following little post, I do that by email...heh..what a freak.
quote"
quote"> From ********@aims.on.ca Mon Dec 29 19:31:38 1997
quote"> Received: from 192.168.1.206 ([204.92.72.7] (may be forged))
quote"
quote"IP addresses could not be found.
quote""(may be forged))"?? hey I know all my emails come with that little
quote"tidbit.
quote"
quote"> by bree.aims.on.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id WAA10010
quote"> for <e_cu...@hotmail.com>; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:31:47 -0500
quote"> Message-ID: <34A85D...@aims.on.ca>
quote"> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:34:28 -0400
quote"> From: ******* <*******@aims.on.ca>
quote"
quote"Okay, he is claiming it is someone from "aims.on.ca" that sent this
quote"post. Amazing an Etobicoke company. [Applied Information Management
quote"Services (AIMS)
quote"Complete Internet, Training, and Business Consulting Services]. The
quote"first choice of 15 year old girls.
quote"
quote"> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC)
quote"> MIME-Version: 1.0
quote"
quote"hmmm...a Macintosh, but a PPC? I don't know much about Macs to comment
quote"on this. A fifteen year old girl with a Macintosh? Is it the trend?
quote"
quote"> To: e_cu...@hotmail.com
quote"> Subject: Can you help?
quote"> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
quote"> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
quote"Headers
quote"
quote"A plea for help, to Earl Curley nonetheless, strange, very strange.
quote"
quote"
quote"
quote"> > P.S. If anyone else has been subjected to
quote"> > Sabastian's behavior, please send me the details by
quote"> > e-mail (Bruce, etc.)
quote"
quote"A peice of his post. Nice touch.
quote"
quote"> Dear Earl,
quote">
quote"> I ran across your post in alt.astrology regarding Steve Sebastian.
quote"> I am a 15 year old girl. I was in the chat room when Steve Sebastian
quote"> came into the teen channel,and started talking to me.
quote"
quote"Precious, just precious. She just happens to read alt.astrology where
quote"Earl decided to post this to. A fifteen year old girl that decides to
quote"make Earl her confidante. I know that would be my first choice. It just
quote"happens to come the day after I tell him to dig deeper. It just happens
quote"to match the lies he tells about me; strange.
quote"
quote"> And ended up inviting me to the Palladium for New Years eve.
quote"> When I found out that he was 27, I turned him down.
quote"
quote"The Palladium?? (do you mean the Playdium? The huge arcade in
quote"MISSISSAUGA? hmmm isn't the Airport Executive Suites in Mississauga).
quote"You got my age wrong by two years, but a good guess nonetheless. I don't
quote"recall if I ever posted it before?
quote"
quote"> He started to email me more and more, to try to get me
quote"> to meet with him at the Palladium.
quote"
quote"I see. Convenient that you did not include these emails that I
quote"supposedly sent to her? Why is that?
quote"
quote"> Each email became more and more aggressive and intimidating.
quote"
quote"ummm...yeah right. Where are they Earl? Why did you not include them?
quote"
quote"> I am scared to go to my parents, like they told me not to use the
quote"> internet to talk to people in the chat area.
quote"> I am afraid they will punish me. Can you help me?
quote"
quote"She is scared to go to her parents, yet she goes to you?
quote""like they told me"?? I love that valley girl touch.
quote"That is a classic last line. She is afraid they will punish her for
quote"doing something, that she is not supposed to be doing. Yet "aggressive
quote"and intimidating" email are less scary then her punishment? Give me a
quote"break Earl, you get a zero for believability Earl.
quote"
quote">
quote"> ***name******
quote"
quote"That is a pretty name you gave her Earl.
quote"If this was true, why would you place it on public?
quote"If this was a real post, by a real 15 year old girl, that is supposedly
quote"scared of me, why would he inform me and everyone here about it? Would I
quote"not know who this person was? Would I not be more angry, for her telling
quote"Earl?
quote"
quote"I tell him to dig, and remarkably the very next day he gets a mysterious
quote"post that so conveniently helps him out. A post that supposedly proves
quote"his case almost to a T? It was creative, I'll give him that; however it
quote"was more transparent then his usual attempts.
quote"
quote"Steve Sebastian
quote"
quote"PS - I included alt.astrology. Why did you keep out alt.astrology, as a
quote"newsgroup??
What a sick lot these jerks are. It's a damn good
thing Clinton's trying to rid these child stalkers
from the Internet.
I do hope some of the authorities who frequent
these treads take note of the sick perverts who feel
the need to sanction Sabastian's stalking of a young
child. I wonder how many others have been
subject to his and "other's" abuse on the net?
In the meantime, I'll just let Sabastian's supposed
friend at 52 Division forward the child's e-mail to
the proper division for scrutiny. They don't take
kindly in Canada with 27 year old perverts.
Earl Curley
e_cu...@hotmail.com
In article <68a6et$3...@nntp02.primenet.com>,
b...@primenet.com (Blair P. Houghton) wrote:
>
> Earl Curley <e_cu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Sabastian, why don't you explain to the people in these threads how you
> >enjoy harrassing young 15 years girls in teen chat lines. Also do you
> >think it's proper for a psychotic asshole like you to try to harrass a
> >15 year girl into going out with you on New Years Eve? Well the post I
> >recieved and oposted below can attest to your sick perverted criminal
>
> That's an email, Earl, not a post.
>
> BTW, did you get this young woman's permission to copy her
> copyrighted material to the net? Did you explain to her first
> that her alleged pursuer would undoubtedly recognize who she
> is and attempt retribution against her?
>
> Of course not. She'd have to exist, first.
>
> >behavior and for your information I have immediately submitted the
> >following to Cst. Yates for his disposal. By the way, if the young girl
> >who wrote the post is legitimate, I can assure you that a jail term is
>
> I rather doubt she is. Your sock puppets are much older
> than fifteen years.
>
> >in order. For all you other idiots who have supported that asshole, I'm
> >sure you're all proud to stand behind him now.
>
> Surely I will.
>
> >I predicted that you'd see bars and I'm telling you one thing Sabastian,
> >IF this post is accurate and IF you even make contact with the child one
> >more time, I'll personally cut your balls out.
>
> "One more time" than zero, eh, Curley-boy?
>
> Next time you try to act as witness for the prosecution,
> remember that to make it plausible you would yourself
> have to be above reproach, should you be called to
> testify. And as a witness for the prosecution, Earl,
> you comprise a hell of a defense.
>
> And I'd be hard pressed to find a precedent for
> sock puppets as visual aids, even in Canadian
> court proceedings.
>
> >P.S. I've changed the child's e-mail address and name to protect her
>
> Her email address is the same as yours, and I believe that
> her name, before you removed her from that twee little hanger
> and cardboard sleeve, was Fruit of the Loom.
>
> >from the other perverts like Atkinson who loves to telephone harrass
> >women in the middle of the night, like Sabastian does.
>
> You fool nobody, Earl.
>
> --Blair
> "Not even your landlady."
-------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
> > P.S. I've changed the child's e-mail address and name to protect her
> > from the other perverts like Atkinson who loves to telephone harrass
> > women in the middle of the night, like Sabastian does.
>
> How kind of you, to protect her identity. I read it, if it was real, why
> would you even post it? Neither myself or John harrass, or even call
> women in the middle of the night to harrass them. According to the
> following little post, I do that by email...heh..what a freak.
Neither you or John make harrassing telephone
calls in the middle of the night? Atkinson has been
making his manic telephone calls to Ms. Bryant so
much to the point that she was requested to add a
telephone voice recorder on her line for the
authorities. Ask him.
> > I ran across your post in alt.astrology regarding Steve Sebastian.
> > I am a 15 year old girl. I was in the chat room when Steve Sebastian
> > came into the teen channel,and started talking to me.
>
> Precious, just precious. She just happens to read alt.astrology where
> Earl decided to post this to. A fifteen year old girl that decides to
> make Earl her confidante. I know that would be my first choice. It just
> happens to come the day after I tell him to dig deeper. It just happens
> to match the lies he tells about me; strange.
>
> > And ended up inviting me to the Palladium for New Years eve.
> > When I found out that he was 27, I turned him down.
>
> The Palladium?? (do you mean the Playdium? The huge arcade in
> MISSISSAUGA? hmmm isn't the Airport Executive Suites in Mississauga).
Sabastian and you claim you weren't harrassing the
child? How would you know where or what the
Playdium was? Is that where you normally stalk
young girls?
> You got my age wrong by two years, but a good guess nonetheless. I don't
> recall if I ever posted it before?
You didn't. How would the child know your true
age? I guess she must be psychic. Tell your story
to the cops. They like dealing with the Bernardos
like you.
>
> PS - I included alt.astrology. Why did you keep out alt.astrology, as a
> newsgroup??
Because you convienently cut it out of the post I
responded to. What's the matter Bernardo, where
you afraid the child would recognize you?
Earl Curley
e_cu...@hotmail.com
Sabastian, didn't the 15 year old child inform you
over and over again to leave her alone and not
harrass her? You know, the one who you stalked
in the teen chat lounge? Didn't you also not adhere
to her requests and instead continued to stalk and e-
mail her with frightening e-mails? Didn't you also
try to coherce her into meeting you at the Playdium
(in another post it seems he is the only one here in
Toronto that even knew the penny arcade even
exited)?
It's a criminal offense to stalk under aged children,
Sabastian. How many other innocent young girls
have you hot-chatted without them knowing you
are 27 years old? Is this why you are using a false
account at IBM Net? Do you also collect child
pornography to feed that perverted personality of
yours? The authorities also charge people for that
as well.
I'm sure those who you claim you contacted in the
Toronto Police Department won't take kindly to
you stalking young 15 year old girls on the
Internet. Are you also aware that it's a criminal
offense causing an investigation (i.e. TLC) without
cause? I thought not. Between you stalking young
girls in chat areas and falsely accusing people of
crimes they never committed I believe a few years
behind bars will smarten you up. They like
perverts like you in jail. Take your vasoline with
you.
>anonym wrote:
>
>
>You ignorant piece of crap. Do you know that it is a criminal offense
>to harass women on the Internet? <snip>
Oh, dear! Did Mary Jo complain?
I can only guess tht Earl is claiming someone sent email to Ms. Bryant. I
can also only guess that said email contained some truths about Earl that
made him feel uneasy.
> Each of your posts, Atkinson's and Sabastian's are being given to the
> authorities and from my understanding I expect them to be in contact
> with your ISPs shortly.
Empty threat #528
> In case you want to deny your crap, on the Response Form are the details
> of your access and shown by:
...
> For the three of you assholes so far, keep up the good work. You're all
> doing me a favor because I'd sooner see you behind bars than in a court
> room in a civil action. Harass me all you care to idiots but when you
> start harassing women and innocent victums, your days are coming to an
> end.
I remember years ago when Earl kept bragging about how he was collecting a
whole bunch of "fish to fry". I guess his master-plan is finally coming to a
revengefull end. SKEPTICS BEWARE! Boo!
> Earl Curley
> e_cu...@hotmail.com
...
Chow,
Steve
> Sabastian, didn't the 15 year old child inform you
> over and over again to leave her alone and not
> harrass her? <snip rest of Earl's lies>
You tell us Earl, as this is all some drunken fantasy of yours.
--
J. White /\ ? "And I have already debunked the
Lowly Chartist /\ / \/ idea that I wear underwear on
Technical Heretic / \/ on any part of my body"
http://www.hooked.net/users/whitetek -Edmond Wollman
/\ /\/
/\/ \ /\ / Member of the Fierce
Oh boy! It's like that thing with Randi all over again! Earl makes up some
story, supplies no evidence, fakes an email message, and loads down his post
with "ifs" so he has an escape route.
> Earl Curley
> e_cu...@hotmail.com
>
> P.S. I've changed the child's e-mail address and name to protect her
> from the other perverts like Atkinson who loves to telephone harrass
> women in the middle of the night, like Sabastian does.
>
> From ********@aims.on.ca Mon Dec 29 19:31:38 1997
> Received: from 192.168.1.206 ([204.92.72.7] (may be forged))
^
|
This says it all!--------------------------------|
Although I think that "may be" is a bit too much.
Chow,
Steve
e_cu...@hotmail.com wrote:
...
> Neither you or John make harrassing telephone
> calls in the middle of the night? Atkinson has been
> making his manic telephone calls to Ms. Bryant so
> much to the point that she was requested to add a
> telephone voice recorder on her line for the
> authorities. Ask him.
First reported case of paranoia by proxy. Earl thinks that the world is out
to get someone that is not him.
...
Remember the time Earl asked all the poor victims who were harmed by Randi to
come out and gather around him for shelter? He said he had people that could
protect them? Har de har har! It's the same thing all over again!
For someone who repeatedly posted what he himself claimed to be a
pornographic conversation to usenet a long time ago, he sure does take an
interest in protecting children...
Chow,
Steve
> Steve Sebastian
> PS - I included alt.astrology. Why did you keep out alt.astrology, as a
> newsgroup??
Because you cynical scientology, religious, obsessed anti-anything you
don't believe in with viciousness bigots seem to think alt.astrology is
some sort of character assination grouds.
Follow ups set out of cynical control freak groups.
--
Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 1997 Altair Publications
Astrological Consulting
http://www.flex.com/~jai/astrology/info/alt.astrology.faq.html
Oh boy! Someone's really made him mad now! Every one of his posts are
nothing but some B.S. story he made up.
Earl, the longer you do this, the more stupid you look. Anyone with any
intelligence would simply relay all the information to the cops so that a
sting operation could be set up to nab the suspect red-handed. But that
would only work if the girl existed in the first place, wouldn't it? What do
you do, you broadcast to the world the details of what you are accusing him
of, so that he could prepare a defense and destroy evidence.
Besides, I've got some email from the same girl, right here. Of course, I've
left out details that would identify her, for her protection:
Dear Steve,
I ran across Earl's post in alt.astrology regarding Steve Sebastian. Then I
printed it out, because I was out of toilet paper. You see, I had felt so
sorry for Earl, reading what all the mean skeptics were doing to him--forcing
him into a lawsuit, forcing him to get fired, and forcing him to get drunk,
and forcing him to loose his multi-million clientel for is web page design
services. I sent him one email message telling him that I would be his pen
pal, and now he goes and uses me real name (blanked out) as part of some
dillusion against Mr. Sebastian. Earl is a real wanker.
I'm am scared to go to my parents, because they have at least a grade-school
science education under their belts and told me not to talk to psychics. I
am afraid they will punish me by forcing me to continue my coorespondence
with Earl.
Can you help me?
***name******
Chow,
Steve
I don't have to ask him. I know you Earl, I have seen what constitutes
harrassment to you. That would be whatever suits you Earl. Everything
you use to make a point, is nothing but a grandstand. Poor attempts at
one.
> Sabastian and you claim you weren't harrassing the
> child? How would you know where or what the
> Playdium was? Is that where you normally stalk
> young girls?
I am asking if that is what you were trying to convey. Give me a break,
Playdium is a multi complex building, it is advertised quite
extensively. Unless I was to take her to the periodic table.
> You didn't. How would the child know your true
> age? I guess she must be psychic. Tell your story
> to the cops. They like dealing with the Bernardos
> like you.
You didn't know my true age. Two years off, means you got it wrong.
> Because you convienently cut it out of the post I
> responded to. What's the matter Bernardo, where
> you afraid the child would recognize you?
another lie...easily checked...follow the thread.
> Earl Curley
> e_cu...@hotmail.com
>
> -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Steve Sebastian
Good idea Earl. Can you have him explain to me how the girl's mail *from*
Canada originated from a block of unassigned IP addresses? She must be a
ueber-hacker as well.
chris
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> Sabastian, why don't you explain to the people in these threads how you
> enjoy harrassing young 15 years girls in teen chat lines. ...
>
> Earl Curley
> e_cu...@hotmail.com
Since Earl is being so helpful in providing this wealth of supporting
documentation, I trust that someone has notified Randi. I'm sure that his
lawyers will be most pleased to have a copy of all this.
-Jim Jonas
>Sabastian, why don't you explain to the people in these threads how you
>enjoy harrassing young 15 years girls in teen chat lines.
Earl- why is it whenever you start slinging lies and libel to deflect
attention from your pathetic scams, the first subject that comes to your
sick mind is sexual misconduct with a child?
(snipped)
>I predicted that you'd see bars and I'm telling you one thing Sabastian,
>IF this post is accurate and IF you even make contact with the child one
>more time, I'll personally cut your balls out.
Ahh- the teltale "ifs". Sorry Earl. IF it can be proven that this post
was a deliberate libel, those "if's" won't help you one bit.
And weren't you telling one and all that physical threats posted on the
'net is a actionable offence? Naughty Earl.
>
>Dear Earl,
>
>I ran across your post in alt.astrology regarding Steve Sebastian.
>I am a 15 year old girl. I was in the chat room when Steve Sebastian
>came into the teen channel,and started talking to me.
>And ended up inviting me to the Palladium for New Years eve.
Strange how a local resident would misspell The Playdium. Why does that
sound like what someone else we all know would do?
(snip)
BTW- your promised web page is misssing!!! What happened? Did Mrs.
Bryant start asking emabarrasing questions- like: "how come I'm paying for
YOUR web site?".
Or... " Why are you always playing with those Scok Puppets?"
Or even: "just what DO you expect to do with all those T-Bird bottles?
quote"In article <34A874...@ibm.net>,
quote" steve.s...@ibm.net wrote:
quote">
quote"> anonym wrote:
quote"> >
quote"> > Now, is that nice? No, but it's Earl!
quote">
quote"> Don't take it personally. Earl enjoys blowing smoke, to cover his lies,
quote"> and change the subject.
quote">
quote"> > Yes, I read that somewhere. Actually, I believe it's not restricted to
quote"> > women. However, harrassment by definition means an offense must be
quote"> > repeated more than once. It doesn't apply to single communications by
a
quote"> > plurality of people.
quote">
quote"> Most correct, and it must be unwanted communication of a detrimental
quote"> nature. If the person doesn't write back to tell you to stop, it doesn't
quote"> warrant any kind of complaint.
quote"
quote"Sabastian, didn't the 15 year old child inform you
quote"over and over again to leave her alone and not
quote"harrass her? You know, the one who you stalked
quote"in the teen chat lounge? Didn't you also not adhere
quote"to her requests and instead continued to stalk and e-
quote"mail her with frightening e-mails? Didn't you also
quote"try to coherce her into meeting you at the Playdium
quote"(in another post it seems he is the only one here in
quote"Toronto that even knew the penny arcade even
quote"exited)?
quote"
quote"It's a criminal offense to stalk under aged children,
quote"Sabastian. How many other innocent young girls
quote"have you hot-chatted without them knowing you
quote"are 27 years old? Is this why you are using a false
quote"account at IBM Net? Do you also collect child
quote"pornography to feed that perverted personality of
quote"yours? The authorities also charge people for that
quote"as well.
quote"
quote"I'm sure those who you claim you contacted in the
quote"Toronto Police Department won't take kindly to
quote"you stalking young 15 year old girls on the
quote"Internet. Are you also aware that it's a criminal
quote"offense causing an investigation (i.e. TLC) without
quote"cause? I thought not. Between you stalking young
quote"girls in chat areas and falsely accusing people of
quote"crimes they never committed I believe a few years
quote"behind bars will smarten you up. They like
quote"perverts like you in jail. Take your vasoline with
quote"you.
quote"
quote"Earl Curley
quote"e_cu...@hotmail.com
quote"
q
Pete comments: you can't get more definite and certain that the above.
Has this steve thing every publically denied the contact in the face
of such overwhelming evidence?
Pete
> > who wrote the post is legitimate, I can assure you that a jail term
> is
> > in order. For all you other idiots who have supported that asshole,
> I'm
> > sure you're all proud to stand behind him now.
>
> Earl, this is a poor attempt at trying to discredit me. Funny how this
>
> came "supposedly" before I sent my post to anonym, how convenient.
>
BTW, Steve, I am proud to stand behind you now. As if "now" is different
than "then" in anything but Ed's obscure, kooky threats. Who is this
officer he keeps talking about? Poor guy...
First off; learn to qoute or use your news package before replying to any
more postings on this or any other newsgroup. It isn't hard. I see
children doing it properly all the time.
>Pete comments: you can't get more definite and certain that the above.
>Has this steve thing every publically denied the contact in the face
>of such overwhelming evidence?
You can most certainly get "more definite and certain" than the above. The
above was an obvious forgery with multiple mistakes. Note sendmail
complaining that it may be a forgery. Note the "sending" IP address coming
from a block of unassigned IP numbers. Do you know what unassigned IP
numbers are? When you figure it out you are allowed to reply.
your friend,
People who stand behind me (metaphorically speaking), will never regret
their action.
> What a sick lot these jerks are. It's a damn good
> thing Clinton's trying to rid these child stalkers
> from the Internet.
The only jerk is you Earl. As much as your dreams of me being a "child
stalker" are so prevalent in your mind; Your mind is the only place they
have any substance at all. You have crossed the line from civil to
criminal liability.
> I do hope some of the authorities who frequent
> these treads take note of the sick perverts who feel
> the need to sanction Sabastian's stalking of a young
> child. I wonder how many others have been
> subject to his and "other's" abuse on the net?
Apparently they don't Earl, you are still here.
I advise you not to make any more unfounded accusations about me.
> In the meantime, I'll just let Sabastian's supposed
> friend at 52 Division forward the child's e-mail to
> the proper division for scrutiny. They don't take
> kindly in Canada with 27 year old perverts.
>
> Earl Curley
> e_cu...@hotmail.com
I think that is the best course of action Earl. I suggest you do it.
Steve Sebastian
> e_cu...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Neither you or John make harrassing telephone
> > calls in the middle of the night? Atkinson has been
> > making his manic telephone calls to Ms. Bryant so
> > much to the point that she was requested to add a
> > telephone voice recorder on her line for the
> > authorities. Ask him.
>
> I don't have to ask him. I know you Earl, I have seen what constitutes
>
> harrassment to you. That would be whatever suits you Earl. Everything
> you use to make a point, is nothing but a grandstand. Poor attempts at
>
> one.
>
>
> > Sabastian and you claim you weren't harrassing the
> > child? How would you know where or what the
> > Playdium was? Is that where you normally stalk
> > young girls?
>
> I am asking if that is what you were trying to convey. Give me a
> break,
> Playdium is a multi complex building, it is advertised quite
> extensively. Unless I was to take her to the periodic table.
>
>
> > You didn't. How would the child know your true
> > age? I guess she must be psychic
...this slip of the tongue shows us how much credibility the "world
famous psychic" Earl Gordon Curley gives to psychic phenomena. Earl
obviously means "she must be psychic" sarcastically, meaning "she must
know Steve, or else there is no way she could know his age" (Which,
BTW, "she" - the invented "accuser" - did not).
Earl baby, if _anyone_ should consider seriously the possibility that
this "teenage girl" _does_ psychically know Steve's age it is _you_...
> . Tell your story
> > to the cops. They like dealing with the Bernardos
> > like you.
>
> You didn't know my true age. Two years off, means you got it wrong.
>
>
> > Because you convienently cut it out of the post I
> > responded to. What's the matter Bernardo, where
> > you afraid the child would recognize you?
>
> another lie...easily checked...follow the thread.
>
> > Earl Curley
> > e_cu...@hotmail.com
> >
> > -------------------==== Posted via Deja News
> ====-----------------------
> > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
>
> Steve Sebastian
Steve - for once, after all those kooky threats of lawsuits by Ed
Wollman, Earl Curley, Bruce D. Kettler & co., it seems to me there is
here a case for _actual_ legal action. Earl is (clumsily) inventing
malicious lies against you ("mailicious" in the english sense of the
word, not in the kooky sense that means "anything I don't like" - see Ed
and Earl's posts). Did you consult an attorney?
Earl, I double-dog dare you to find an article
posted this decade where I mentioned Barbie dolls.
You're a damned liar, Earl.
>What a sick lot these jerks are. It's a damn good
>thing Clinton's trying to rid these child stalkers
>from the Internet.
Transferrence boy strikes again.
>I do hope some of the authorities who frequent
>these treads take note of the sick perverts who feel
These "treads" are rarely visited by "authorities"
who would have any concern for false accusations
of pedophilia.
>I wonder how many others have been
>subject to his and "other's" abuse on the net?
Transferrence boy strikes again.
>In the meantime, I'll just let Sabastian's supposed
>friend at 52 Division forward the child's e-mail to
>the proper division for scrutiny. They don't take
>kindly in Canada with 27 year old perverts.
What they will undoubtedly do is seek you out to question you
in depth about the girl's identity. The authorities do not
take kindly to false evidence of serious crimes, Earl. When
they find that you have been libeling Sebastian, they will
likely ask him if he would like to press charges. As you know
full well from seeing the postings of Canadian libel law in
this newsgroup, it's a crime for you to do such things, Earl.
--Blair
"Earl, you're a sad berk,
and you're busted."
> Sabastian, didn't the 15 year old child inform you
> over and over again to leave her alone and not
> harrass her?
No... becasue you invented the whole thing. Go ahead, threaten Sebastian
with "legal action" and that "the cops" are out to get him. Nobody
believes you, loon.
> It's a criminal offense to stalk under aged children,
> Sabastian. How many other innocent young girls
> have you hot-chatted without them knowing you
> are 27 years old?
When have you stopped beating your wife?
Earl - you're really losing it. If you were just making things up to
piss Steve off that would be one thing, but I am beginning to suspect
you _actually believe_ your own lies. Scary.
> Is this why you are using a false
> account at IBM Net? Do you also collect child
> pornography to feed that perverted personality of
> yours? The authorities also charge people for that
> as well.
Well, this shows the "evidence" Earl is working on. He "infers" from
someone's spam guard address that the person collects child porn. What
tipped you off that Steve "harasses 15-year-old girls"? The fact that he
has a "@" in his e-mail address?
This time Earl is _Really_ losing it. And I thought it can't get any
worse...
> Pete comments: I'm not certain I understand this - the facts, that is. But
> I do understand that Earl Curly (a world class psychic)
Curly is world class? I would have been more inclined to say he's in a
class all by himself.
> has been under vile
> personal attack from the same kind of cultists (japanese cult)
Again with the Japanese! What is the deal with that? What did the Japanese
do to you, Pete? Is this some sort of reference to the electrode wearing
Aum Shun-ryki cult that bombed the Tokyo subway system with sarin? If so,
that's pretty dumb or you Pete, because the Aum people love all forms of
the paranormal, and they made a deal with the local yakuza. So they would
love Earl!
If it is a reference the the Japanese gov't, you're off base there too. The
Japanese are notably tolerant of alternate religions. One good example: The
government has let the Aum Shun-ryki reform, though most of their former
leaders are still in jail.
Quick Pete! Accuse me of being a dope addict! I won't feel right until you
do that!
who attack
> alt.astrology. And it is interesting that personal attack is the only
> way these people operate. So, as before, does anyone have any suggestion
> as to what must be present within the natal charts of those who insist they
> have the right to insult and berate anyone they choose in the name of
> their slave making god?
And you know my religion... how?
> My own best guess to start would be a very strong saturn/Neptune.
Oh, is that right. And that would mean....
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For Earl's clarification; I never harrassed any females of any age on
the internet.
> in the teen chat lounge? Didn't you also not adhere
> to her requests and instead continued to stalk and e-
> mail her with frightening e-mails? Didn't you also
For Earl's clarification; I have never sent any frightening emails, nor
stalked anyone on the internet.
> try to coherce her into meeting you at the Playdium
> (in another post it seems he is the only one here in
> Toronto that even knew the penny arcade even
> exited)?
For Earl's clarification; I never attempted to have anyone meet me at
the Playdium.
An 11.5 acre entertainment center, does not constitute a penny arcade.
If you are brain dead, and have no contact with the outside world, that
is your problem. You are probably one of few that claim not to know
about the Playdium.
http://www.beginplay.com/media20f.htm
> It's a criminal offense to stalk under aged children,
It is a criminal offense to stalk anyone.
For Earl's clarification; I have not stalked anyone.
> Sabastian. How many other innocent young girls
> have you hot-chatted without them knowing you
For clarification; I have not chatted or "hot-chatted" with any young
girls on the internet.
> are 27 years old? Is this why you are using a false
> account at IBM Net?
For clarification; All IBM accounts require a "credit card" to open an
account.
Am I to understand you are accusing me of credit card fraud as well?
> Do you also collect child pornography to feed that
Am I to infer that by the use of your terminology "Do you also", that
you collect child pornography?
> perverted personality of yours? The authorities also
> charge people for that as well.
For Earl's clarification; I do not collect/view child pornography.
> I'm sure those who you claim you contacted in the
> Toronto Police Department won't take kindly to
> you stalking young 15 year old girls on the
> Internet. Are you also aware that it's a criminal
I assume this is now a general accusation? I can't make any sense of it.
> offense causing an investigation (i.e. TLC) without
> cause? I thought not. Between you stalking young
For Earl's clarification; It was you that made statements of a non
existant corporate entity. In which you admit to raising capital for
that non existant entity. That has been made clear in the material
forwarded to 52 division.
> girls in chat areas and falsely accusing people of
> crimes they never committed I believe a few years
I agree, but I think you should be behind bars a lot longer then a few
years.
> behind bars will smarten you up. They like
> perverts like you in jail. Take your vasoline with
> you.
Well then, I will wish you luck, at your new home.
> Earl Curley
> e_cu...@hotmail.com
Steve Sebastian
Yeah! And as Ed here just showed us, it is really the COMBINATION of
alt.astrology, sci.skeptic, & alt.paranormal that is the proper ground for
character assination.
So, is character assination much different from character assassination?
I guess that assination is when you make an ass out of someone, and
assassination is when you make an ass out of someone and yourself.
Chow,
Steve
After six weeks of close observation of the fiasko between
Curley-Sebastian and his followers,I conclude that each perticipant is
redy for committal order. There is more venom of hate produced by this
group,rthen all poison snakes in total would produce.
What this will accomplish? In the language of mathematics,by solving a
problem produces positive and precies result (2+2=4).
Will anybody enlighten me to what end result this stupidity will
produce?
If all the energy and time consumed for this childish name calling,is
deverted to some positive action,would proguce something useful.
I don;t know Mr.Sebastian,but it seems to me he spends his days in
writing ridiculous venom spreding postings.
I would like to play game of chess with him. I don't think he would
survive 20 moves,by using the same logic that he uses in his postings.
dr_ro...@hotmail.com
> I would like to play game of chess with him. I don't think he would
> survive 20 moves,by using the same logic that he uses in his postings.
> dr_ro...@hotmail.com
Anytime, just let me know.
Download the software, set up your free account. Then post a time and
date.
Steve Sebastian
Well, at least one "astrologer" does.
<snip>
> This time Earl is _Really_ losing it. And I thought it can't get any
> worse...
Here's my prediction for 1998: It will get much worse.
Why even bother with Romberg when a fat 1 MB of storage is awaiting Earl
at Geocities? Doesn't make any sense.
> After all, isn't Earl a big executive in Romberg's company?
>
> Hey, Earl, if they extradite me, do I fly first or business class?
>
> Will the in-flight movie be one with Steve Guttenberg in it?
>
> I HATE Steve Guttenberg!
Me too.
> Pete comments: you can't get more definite and certain that the above.
No you can't. Earl is guilty of libel (and wearing a beaver on his
head).
> Has this steve thing every publically denied the contact in the face
> of such overwhelming evidence?
ROTFLMAO! "Overwhelming evidence"??? LOL!!!! Pete, of all the stupid
things you've said (and they are legion) this one takes the astro-cake.
For the record Steve has publicly denied the above, not that he had to.
We all knew it was a lie because Earl claimed it to be the truth.
> Pete
aka Mister Loopy
--
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Technical Heretic / \/ on any part of my body"
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/\ /\/
>
> Steve - for once, after all those kooky threats of lawsuits by Ed
> Wollman, Earl Curley, Bruce D. Kettler & co., it seems to me there is
> here a case for _actual_ legal action. Earl is (clumsily) inventing
> malicious lies against you ("mailicious" in the english sense of the
> word, not in the kooky sense that means "anything I don't like" - see Ed
> and Earl's posts). Did you consult an attorney?
Oh he'll need an attorney alright. That I can guarrantee you. I know
this is too much for a few of your little brains, but did anyone ask the
asshole whether he posted over 21 e-mails to the young 15 year old
girl? Or did any of you heros even check to see if the IRC log files of
the IRC channels he accessed show he indeed was in those teen chat IRC
channels? I thought not.
Well, Sabastian, did you or did you not enter a teen chat IRC channel
and try to pick up a young, 15 year old girl and have you or have you
not tried to coherce her into meeting you at the Playdium (it sems he
knew exactly what was refered to although anyone else who saw the post
and who lives in Toronto had no idea where it was)?
Now deny it Sabastian and please note that log files do not lie.
Earl Curley
e_cu...@hotmail.com
yawn.....I did not post even one email to any 15 year old girl, let
alone 21. Go check his IRC log files, make the fuckhead happy, so he'll
go away.
> Well, Sabastian, did you or did you not enter a teen chat IRC channel
> and try to pick up a young, 15 year old girl and have you or have you
> not tried to coherce her into meeting you at the Playdium (it sems he
> knew exactly what was refered to although anyone else who saw the post
> and who lives in Toronto had no idea where it was)?
I did not enter a teen chat IRC channel. I did not try and pick up a 15
year old girl. Are you dense Earl, or just incoherent again, stop
drinking before you decide to post.
You have logic of a super sleuth, I lose, now fuck off. I am tired of
playing your stupid games.
> Now deny it Sabastian and please note that log files do not lie.
>
> Earl Curley
> e_cu...@hotmail.com
Everyone go view this fuckers log files please, he is getting on my
nerves.
Steve Sebastian
*You* did, asshole. Where's your crummy website? Your prediction that it
would be up by the 29th FAILED MISERABLY!
> Or did any of you heros even check to see if the IRC log files of
> the IRC channels he accessed show he indeed was in those teen chat IRC
> channels? I thought not.
I wouldn't know how to access them.
>
> Well, Sabastian, did you or did you not enter a teen chat IRC channel
> and try to pick up a young, 15 year old girl and have you or have you
> not tried to coherce her into meeting you at the Playdium (it sems he
> knew exactly what was refered to although anyone else who saw the post
> and who lives in Toronto had no idea where it was)?
He already said that he didn't. By the way, Earl, I worked in Toronto
this year, and the Playdium is HEAVILY advertised, so that last sentence
is, like you, full of shit.
Earl, all your false accusations of Sebastion are clouding the issue.
Did you piggyback your website onto AES's at ica.net without Glenys'
permission?
Why don't all of the links work on AES's website?
Will you be finishing it up anytime soon?
Why would you set up the site at Globalserve after complaining how bad
it was there?
Where is YOUR crummy website?
WILL WE SEE IT PIGGYBACKING ONTO AES'S SITE AT GLOBALSERVE, OR HAS
GLENYS HAD ENOUGH OF THAT SHIT?
Does Glenys like the fact that you intercept all comments on the
submittal form?
Why doesn't the submittal form work?
Do you intercept her email as well?
Why would a big-time exec for the TLC Corp, who could raise 2.5 million
dollars, do little dinky things like web site design (and then not
finish them)?
>
> Now deny it Sabastian
He has, dickface!
> and please note that log files do not lie.
Post them then, you scumbag. The real ones, not forged ones, as you are
wont to do.
> Oh he'll need an attorney alright.
I doubt it, unless he wants to press a civil case against you. I think
the criminal case will be enough. Them cons's gonna love that thing you
wear on your head.
> That I can guarrantee you. I know
> this is too much for a few of your little brains, but did anyone ask the
> asshole whether he posted over 21 e-mails to the young 15 year old
> girl?
The very fact that you say he did is proof enough he didn't.
> Or did any of you heros even check to see if the IRC log files of
> the IRC channels he accessed show he indeed was in those teen chat IRC
> channels? I thought not.
Prove it. I hope you forge this better than that lame email.
> Well, Sabastian, did you or did you not enter a teen chat IRC channel
<snip libel>
He already answered you. I hope one day he will get to answer you in
person.
> Now deny it Sabastian and please note that log files do not lie.
Unlike Curley, the living lie. Now post your next forgery so we can pull
you apart some more. Also, when will we get to see your Psooper Psychic
web page again? Also, how many times to you have to feed that thing on
your head? Also, has your landlady thrown you out yet? Also, how many
times will you spooge into your Mary Jo puppet before you take the time
to wash it?
> Earl Curley,
sucks
Dr.Louis Romberg <t...@skylinc.net> wrote:
>After six weeks of close observation of the fiasko between
Interesting. "Dr. Romberg" wasn't dragged into this until
Dec. 7. That's only three weeks ago.
>Curley-Sebastian and his followers,I conclude that each perticipant is
>redy for committal order. There is more venom of hate produced by this
>group,rthen all poison snakes in total would produce.
Does the TLC BrainWasher2000 spell like this?
>What this will accomplish? In the language of mathematics,by solving a
>problem produces positive and precies result (2+2=4).
>Will anybody enlighten me to what end result this stupidity will
>produce?
Will anybody enlighten us as to what this tromplography
is trying to ask?
>If all the energy and time consumed for this childish name calling,is
>deverted to some positive action,would proguce something useful.
Like IRC, or the CDA.
>I don;t know Mr.Sebastian,but it seems to me he spends his days in
>writing ridiculous venom spreding postings.
>I would like to play game of chess with him. I don't think he would
>survive 20 moves,by using the same logic that he uses in his postings.
I don't think he could *stomach* 20 moves, given the way
"Dr. Romberg" would liberally intersperse the rules of
checkers with those of chess.
Yet another address; this time with a suspiciously small
Hamming distance from Earl's, and a specious typo.
Either Earl is faking Dr. Romberg again (I doubt highly that
Dr. Romberg ever even heard of Earl's problems on the net,
much less engaged any of us in email or usenet discussions of
them), and pathetically so; or, someone is trolling, faking
Earl faking Dr. Romberg.
Either way, Earl is a sad berk.
--Blair
"I can do an impression of Rich Little
doing an impression of Johnny Carson...
I can also do an impression of George
Bush doing an impression of Dana Carvey
doing an impression of George Bush."
> >Curley-Sebastian and his followers,I conclude that each perticipant is
> >redy for committal order. There is more venom of hate produced by this
> >group,rthen all poison snakes in total would produce.
>
> Does the TLC BrainWasher2000 spell like this?
The 97 model does...the 98 model costs and also features:
Call_Pedophile (name,1)
False_Charges (name,1)
Pack_O_Lies (null)
and many other fun functions...call 1-800-ERL-CRLY
Earl, if these are the entire headers, then it is impossible for you
to have recieved them on hotmail.
You should have forged a Received: line for hotmail as well as for
the apparently non existing machine 204.92.72.7.
Does this include Curley?
> There is more venom of hate produced by this
> group,rthen all poison snakes in total would produce.
Kind of harsh on snakes, I think. Snakes don't hate people.
> What this will accomplish? In the language of mathematics,by solving a
> problem produces positive and precies result (2+2=4).
Quite unlike Curley's "predictions."
> Will anybody enlighten me to what end result this stupidity will
> produce?
Hopefully a conviction against Curley for libel and false accusation.
> If all the energy and time consumed for this childish name calling,is
> deverted to some positive action,would proguce something useful.
Like a spell checker that works.
> I don;t know Mr.Sebastian,but it seems to me he spends his days in
> writing ridiculous venom spreding postings.
> I would like to play game of chess with him. I don't think he would
> survive 20 moves,by using the same logic that he uses in his postings.
That's a rediculous thing to say! That's a silly as me saying that I could
beat you, "Dr.", in 9 moves, based on your rotten spelling.
big snip of nothing significant
>
>For the three of you assholes so far, keep up the good work.
>end.
>
>Earl Curley
>e_cu...@hotmail.com
Oh, Dear. I always thought Canadians were so polite. Oh well, another
illusion shattered. Posting from hotmail, too. Hmmm... must not be
able to afford a real ISP. Or, perhaps, no one in his city will have
him(?)
>
John Hutchins
I never hold a grudge. As soon as I get even with the SOB, I
forget all about it.
W. C. Fields.
After reading a score or so of the messages on this thread,
I've come to the conclusion that Earl's skills at telling a
convincing lie are just as accomplished as his skills as a
psych(ot)ic.
Poor soul.
Alt.astrology added back in just to piss Ed off.
>e_cu...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
snip
Not much of substance.
Ya know, when I see people such as Peat rally round to defend
Earl, well, I just get all warm and misty-eyed.
What a pair to draw to. What maroons. What im-BESS-les.
I quite agree, if Earl told me water was wet I'd double check.
> Alt.astrology added back in just to piss Ed off.
--
Chris.
: Now deny it Sabastian and please note that log files do not lie.
Jesus, Earl. Youv've already been dragged to court once for making these
kinds of claims against your critics. You trying for two?
Post the logfile, and prove it's authentic. You've cried wolf too
often to be taken seriously.
--
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----==============---- I can only afford a slightly used one.
now with 10% real *****************************************
fruit juice! Don't blame me, I voted for Richard Dangerous
: P.S. I've changed the child's e-mail address and name to protect her
: from the other perverts like Atkinson who loves to telephone harrass
: women in the middle of the night, like Sabastian does.
Sure you did, Earl. Let's see - if I was going to manufacture a fake email
message, for posting to usenet, how would I go about doing it? hmm...
: From ********@aims.on.ca Mon Dec 29 19:31:38 1997
: Received: from 192.168.1.206 ([204.92.72.7] (may be forged))
: by bree.aims.on.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id WAA10010
: for <e_cu...@hotmail.com>; Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:31:47 -0500
: Message-ID: <34A85D...@aims.on.ca>
: Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:34:28 -0400
: From: ******* <*******@aims.on.ca>
: X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Macintosh; I; PPC)
: MIME-Version: 1.0
: To: e_cu...@hotmail.com
: Subject: Can you help?
: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Well, first I might scan my email box and clip the header from a real
message I received, then delete the sender's address - this keeps people
from discovering the person who I claimed sent the message doesn't
actually exist. Adding (may be forged) to the header serves to nullify any
pesky header data I don't like.
: > P.S. If anyone else has been subjected to
: > Sabastian's behavior, please send me the details by
: > e-mail (Bruce, etc.)
Beforehand, I may have decided to post a request for Email to usenet -
possibly in hopes of getting real complaints, but also useful when none
come in. I can now claim this as a source of the Mystery Post - instead of
just having this person just email me out of the blue. I'd make sure to
include my request in the message, just to make sure the rubes in the
audience get the gist...
: Dear Earl,
: I ran across your post in alt.astrology regarding Steve Sebastian.
: I am a 15 year old girl. I was in the chat room when Steve Sebastian
: came into the teen channel,and started talking to me.
: And ended up inviting me to the Palladium for New Years eve.
: When I found out that he was 27, I turned him down.
: He started to email me more and more, to try to get me
: to meet with him at the Palladium.
: Each email became more and more aggressive and intimidating.
: I am scared to go to my parents, like they told me not to use the
: internet to talk to people in the chat area.
: I am afraid they will punish me. Can you help me?
: ***name******
And then I'd spin a yarn - I'd try not to make the same typos I always do,
in my normal messages, but might not catch them all. The idea is to write
ta message that just sounds like somebody else wrote it. Luckily, Earl
would have had experience attempting to pass himself off as another sock,
er.. person, before.
Now, let's put all those pieces together, for our own phony email message.
From **********@satan.com Fri Oct 65 22:32:01 1967
Received: from 666.666.1.666 ([202.205.234.3]) (definately forged)
by guard.graceland.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/TDN2) with ESMTP id BAA09559
for <el...@graceland.com>; Mon, 35 Aug 1492 01:46:11 -0500
Message-Id: <30332199712310...@pop3.satan.edu>
X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32)
Date: Wed, 35 Dec 2001 01:46:47 -0500
To: Chris Sutor <el...@graceland.com>
From: ********@nni.com>
Subject: Re: Earl Curley set my hair on fire!
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.93.97123...@guard.graceland.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> If anyone else has any anecdotes, recipes, or scary stories involving
> self-important, cardboard-box dwelling frauds, please email them to me.
Dear Chris,
I am desperate for your help! Earl Curley set my hair on fire, and now I'm
completely bald! I need to wear a wig everywhere I go, or people mistake
me for Patrick Stewart! No lie! I made the mistake of accepting his offer
to go back to his hotel room to look at his "etchings" - whereupon he
pounced on me and set fire to my head, screaming "I got you now, Atkinson!
You thought I didn't recognise you with the dress on!?"
Can you send me $20 so I can get hair plugs?
Sincerely, **************
....there, see how easy that was?
> > Has this steve thing every publically denied the contact in the face
> > of such overwhelming evidence?
>
> For the record Steve has publicly denied the above, not that he had to.
> We all knew it was a lie because Earl claimed it to be the truth.
>
I've got a couple of teenage nieces who've been following Earl's online
career with me. The girls even keep their friends at school updated with
the latest Earl stories. Earl has made a fine illustration of the type
of character they wouldn't ever want to contact via the Internet. Which
is why, after reading his posting with the phony email from the
imaginary teen girl, these kids exclaimed: "As if any girl with a brain
would ever email Earl! Yucch. What a total loser."
So, Earl, you haven't even fooled kids with this one.
Go away? Oh you poor perverted soul. Did you
get caught with your fingers in a fifteen year cookie
jar? Take your medication, sicko. You're loosing
it and no matter what you say, leave the kids alone.
>
> > Well, Sabastian, did you or did you not enter a teen chat IRC channel
> > and try to pick up a young, 15 year old girl and have you or have you
> > not tried to coherce her into meeting you at the Playdium (it sems he
> > knew exactly what was refered to although anyone else who saw the post
> > and who lives in Toronto had no idea where it was)?
>
> I did not enter a teen chat IRC channel. I did not try and pick up a 15
> year old girl. Are you dense Earl, or just incoherent again, stop
> drinking before you decide to post.
> You have logic of a super sleuth, I lose, now fuck off. I am tired of
> playing your stupid games.
Tell it to a judge. Is it normal practice for you to
chase young girls? What's your problem sicko?
Can't you handle women your age or is it that you
and Paul Bernardo have something in common?
Your pathetic excuse hold no water when the
evidence is clear and to the point. Get psycholocial
help before you hurt someone, especially yourself.
>
> > Now deny it Sabastian and please note that log files do not lie.
> >
> > Earl Curley
> > e_cu...@hotmail.com
>
> Everyone go view this fuckers log files please, he is getting on my
> nerves.
>
> Steve Sebastian
Oh, Stevey (Paul Bernardo) is loosing it again.
Hey asshole, you got caught romancing a child of
tender years and that's a criminal offense in
Canada.
Earl Curley
e_cu...@hotmail.com
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>In article <34a8de0c...@news.c-zone.net>, www.c-zone.net/sidereal/ wrote:
>
>> Pete comments: I'm not certain I understand this - the facts, that is. But
>> I do understand that Earl Curly (a world class psychic)
>
>Curly is world class? I would have been more inclined to say he's in a
>class all by himself.
Please notice that Pete didn't mention what world!
<snip>
> Hey asshole, you got caught romancing a child of
> tender years
Could you please post a copy of the language that states "romancing a
child of tender years) is an offense?
>and that's a criminal offense in Canada.
So is theft of services. We haven't seen you answer any questions about
whther you had permission to piggyback your website onto the Airport
Executive Suites.
And I don't know if this is a criminal offense, perhaps only civil, but
AES is sitting there with an incomplete website. You might want to
finish up there, if you've already been paid.
The term "world-class", anybody ever stop to think what that means?
Third class is a wank.
Second class is an upgrade.
First class is the tops, luxurious.
In other words, reduce the number, increase the prestige.
So, "world" means "a number equivalent to the number ofthe human
population of the earth"
Ergo, "world class" connotes the class that is the lowest common
denominator.
Earl being a world class psychic means he is in the same class as all
the other psychics around the world, or, more simply put, wrong.
Correct this. Earl is sub-world class.I don't know how many pther
psychics in the world that are as stupid and vicious as Earl.
> Go away? Oh you poor perverted soul. Did you
> get caught with your fingers in a fifteen year cookie
> jar? Take your medication, sicko. You're loosing
> it and no matter what you say, leave the kids alone.
What's the matter Earl, lets see the log files you have? Ohhh...what's
that, you are going to dance around this subject, but never actually
show them, or speak of them. Well that's what I thought. How about the
21 peices of email, another lie.
> Tell it to a judge. Is it normal practice for you to
> chase young girls? What's your problem sicko?
Where are your mysterious log files? What's the matter, do you not have
any?
Ohh boy, Earl Curley is prevaricating again. Why don't you go tell it to
a judge, so I can charge you with perjury as well.
> Can't you handle women your age or is it that you
> and Paul Bernardo have something in common?
I know you, If Paul knows you; We both know you. Do you know what
Bernardo and I don't have in common? I never took your advice.
> Your pathetic excuse hold no water when the
> evidence is clear and to the point. Get psycholocial
> help before you hurt someone, especially yourself.
When you use terms like "hold no water". I presume that you are speaking
metamoronically. That is true. The evidence is clear. You are lying
again, but doing it quite badly.... Poooohhh baby you got caught, with
just one little peice of your creative email. Now lets see some creative
irc logs, as there are some people that still doubt you. Change that,
there are only a few people that believe you.
Ohhh psycho-locial help, you must be that locial Psycho. I think I will
pass, the world can only handle one Earl Curley.
> Oh, Stevey (Paul Bernardo) is loosing it again.
> Hey asshole, you got caught romancing a child of
> tender years and that's a criminal offense in
> Canada.
>
> Earl Curley
> e_cu...@hotmail.com
I didn't do any such thing. I just seem to be the target of the
diminutive intellect of the superlative usenet void.
Now as Earl goes and finds a dictionary, we just may have a few minutes
of peace and quiet.
Steve Sebastian
PS - Say hi to Melanie for me. Coming soon to usenet, The psycho that
lost it!
> Dr.Louis Romberg wrote:
>
> > I would like to play game of chess with him. I don't think he would
> > survive 20 moves,by using the same logic that he uses in his
> postings.
> > dr_ro...@hotmail.com
>
> Anytime, just let me know.
>
> http://www.chessmaster.com
>
> Download the software, set up your free account. Then post a time and
> date.
>
> Steve Sebastian
You play there, Steve? How about a game (I'll log in as a guest... I
might even buy the chessmanster 5500 and join this server - it looks
pretty good).
Oh, BTW, This Romberg character, for sure, is _not_ a chess player. any
chess player that is at least a mediocre club player (like me...) knows
damn well that the relation between being good at chess and "logical
thought" (whatever exactly _that_ vague expression means) is weak at
best. OTOH, people who _don't_ play chess, or are very weak players,
tend to think that being good at chess _is_ connected to being
"logical"...
EARL CURLEY DOESN'T EXIST AND ANYWAYS HE IS A MORON.
your friend,
chris
--
nippur / kish / kublakhan (nextturbocolors) ur (sunipc) more soon!
"We know this is open mic night, we don't care, tenacious d, we reign!
we reign supreme of god! burrito supreme! chicken taco supreme!"
NeXTstep/*BSD*/Solaris/SunOS/OSF/Linux/Ultrix/OS2/WinNTi/VSTa/SCO/etc...
Holey Cow! Has "Pete Simpleton" learned the use of sarcasm, or
is this a serious post?!?! If the former then I forgive his
once again changing his "From:" address which tends to sidestep
my kill files. (At least this once)
--
Peter F Curran
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
dough knot male: nos...@pascal.stu.rpi.edu
Use address in Organization line, finger
for PGP key. Antispaam test in progress.
I did, I just went back and downloaded the new version of chessmaster
live, and logged on as GUEST44400. Let me know when you would like to
play, and we can make arrangments to hit the server at a mutually
agreeable time.
> Oh, BTW, This Romberg character, for sure, is _not_ a chess player. any
> chess player that is at least a mediocre club player (like me...) knows
> damn well that the relation between being good at chess and "logical
> thought" (whatever exactly _that_ vague expression means) is weak at
> best. OTOH, people who _don't_ play chess, or are very weak players,
> tend to think that being good at chess _is_ connected to being
> "logical"...
That, and the fact that he keeps giving excuses. I assume he thought I
idn't play chess. Classic Earl type attitude, accept his challenge and
excuses surface. Adjust to the parameters, and more excuses ensue.
X-Originating-IP: [209.29.27.91]
From: "Dr.Louis Romberg" <dr_ro...@hotmail.com>
To: steve.s...@ibm.net
Cc:
Subject: chess
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 11:44:12 EST
If I want to play computer chess,I don't need you. Besides you are a man
that I would't not trust for one second.How I know that you are making
the moves?Your logic= 5 year child.Any time I play chess with you or any
body is one on one. Warble I can cut you into million peaces,shrink you
and Quantum into spec that would need Hubble telescope to find you.The
only problem,I cannot regress to your level of logic. Make a New Year
resolution,stop wasting your and other people time on a nonces that the
end result = 0
I wish you more logic in 1998
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
-------------
Steve Sebastian
PS - I personally would have used "infinitesimal pieces", and an
"electron microscope". Then again, I am just strange like that.
> After reading a score or so of the messages on this thread,
> I've come to the conclusion that Earl's skills at telling a
> convincing lie are just as accomplished as his skills as a
> psych(ot)ic.
Pheh, Earl's just projecting his own guilt of his child-rape fantasies onto
someone else. Why else would his accusations *always* be the same thing?
Of course, it may just be his lack of imagination, but this whole nonsense
is his effort to try and swerve attention away from the fact that he's
being found out as a scam-artists, thief, and lair. As usual.
He's also setting himself up for another lawsuit. I wonder if he'll hide under
the bed again when reality (sometimes known as Steve Sebastian or Randi)
shows up in Toronto to serve suit?
Oh Wait! Don't most hotels have solid planks under the bed? And then they
have those Open closets too to make cleaning easier. Where will Earl hide
this time?
--
Matt Kriebel * The Hessian Web Page:
got...@netaxs.com* http://www.netaxs.com/~gothic/Hessian.html
*********************************************************************
The truth is out there, but the speculation is way, *way* out there.
Steve Terrell wrote in message <34A97F92...@hfab1.sc.ti.com>...
>Edmond Wollmann wrote:
>>
>> Steve Sebastian wrote:
>So, is character assination much different from character assassination?
>I guess that assination is when you make an ass out of someone, and
>assassination is when you make an ass out of someone and yourself.
>
>Chow,
> Steve
You do have a sense of humor after all Steve! Congratulations, and
Happy New Year.
Ron
www.c-zone.net/sidereal/ wrote in message >Pete comments: you can't get more
definite and certain that the above.
>Has this steve thing every publically denied the contact in the face
>of such overwhelming evidence?
>
>Pete
>
How could he? Good to see you back, Pete.
Ron
e_cu...@hotmail.com wrote in message <883491376....@dejanews.com>...
>In article <34A874...@ibm.net>,
> steve.s...@ibm.net wrote:
>>
>> anonym wrote:
>> >
>> > Now, is that nice? No, but it's Earl!
>>
>> Don't take it personally. Earl enjoys blowing smoke, to cover his lies,
>> and change the subject.
>>
>> > Yes, I read that somewhere. Actually, I believe it's not restricted to
>> > women. However, harrassment by definition means an offense must be
>> > repeated more than once. It doesn't apply to single communications by a
>> > plurality of people.
>>
>> Most correct, and it must be unwanted communication of a detrimental
>> nature. If the person doesn't write back to tell you to stop, it doesn't
>> warrant any kind of complaint.
>
>Sabastian, didn't the 15 year old child inform you
>over and over again to leave her alone and not
>harrass her? You know, the one who you stalked
>in the teen chat lounge? Didn't you also not adhere
>to her requests and instead continued to stalk and e-
>mail her with frightening e-mails? Didn't you also
>try to coherce her into meeting you at the Playdium
>(in another post it seems he is the only one here in
>Toronto that even knew the penny arcade even
>exited)?
>
>It's a criminal offense to stalk under aged children,
>Sabastian. How many other innocent young girls
>have you hot-chatted without them knowing you
>are 27 years old? Is this why you are using a false
>account at IBM Net? Do you also collect child
>pornography to feed that perverted personality of
>yours? The authorities also charge people for that
>as well.
>
>I'm sure those who you claim you contacted in the
>Toronto Police Department won't take kindly to
>you stalking young 15 year old girls on the
>Internet. Are you also aware that it's a criminal
>offense causing an investigation (i.e. TLC) without
>cause? I thought not. Between you stalking young
>girls in chat areas and falsely accusing people of
>crimes they never committed I believe a few years
>behind bars will smarten you up. They like
>perverts like you in jail. Take your vasoline with
>you.
>
>Earl Curley
>e_cu...@hotmail.com
Earl, I have been amazed at the responses from some of these "jailhouse
lawyers." Apparently, they are too ignorant to know that, under Canadian
law, one does not have the "anything goes" freedom of speech that the nine
senile old men in the USA say is OK.
Hang in there,
Ron
Sherilyn wrote in message <4o9N1tBu...@sidaway.demon.co.uk>...
>In article <34a951dd...@news.c-zone.net>, "www. c-zone.
>net/sidereal/" <?@?.?> writes
>...
>>
>>Pete comments: you can't get more definite and certain that the above.
>>Has this steve thing every publically denied the contact in the face
>>of such overwhelming evidence?
>>
>You might like to know that Earl is currently being sued for defamation
>by James Randi. I shouldn't be surprised to see Steve ask to be joined
>to the suit. Be careful you don't get sucked in, too, Pete.
Apparently, Randi has tucked his tail between his lega and run yipping
to shelter - we don't hear anything about this alleged "lawsuit" any more.
If I am in error, let the cultmaster himself respond.
Ron
>In article <34A9CF...@ibm.net>,
> steve.s...@ibm.net wrote:
>> yawn.....I did not post even one email to any 15 year old girl, let
>> alone 21. Go check his IRC log files, make the fuckhead happy, so he'll
>> go away.
>
>Go away? Oh you poor perverted soul. Did you
>get caught with your fingers in a fifteen year cookie
>jar?
No he didn't- but YOU did! Earl Curly got caught attempting to scam a
free site, and is now attempting to deflect attention away. Notice that
despite all requests for any proof, all he can come up with is repetitious
fabrications. Classic Curly.
>> I did not enter a teen chat IRC channel. I did not try and pick up a 15
>> year old girl. Are you dense Earl, or just incoherent again, stop
>> drinking before you decide to post.
>> You have logic of a super sleuth, I lose, now fuck off. I am tired of
>> playing your stupid games.
>
>Tell it to a judge.
Have you explained your actions to Mrs Bryant yet?
> Is it normal practice for you to
>chase young girls? What's your problem sicko?
(rest of Curly drivel snipped)
Is it normal practice for a "world renowned psychic" to cheat trusting
landlords by piggybacking web sites?
Is it normal practise for a "consultant to major corporations" to lie,
libel, and threaten others with physical harm and lawsuits?
Is it normal practise for Managers to be fired for drunkeness and behaving
like an idiot?
Is it normal practise for the "President and CEO of TLC Enterprises" to be
forging posts under the names of "Mary Jo Willy" and "Dr. Romberg"?
Is it normal practise to be kicked off every ISP in the neighborhood for
violations of Fair Use policies?
Your answer to these questions is requested, but not expected. In your
case, your problems appear to stem from a sick need for recognition at
whatever the cost.
That, and the booze.
BTW- whats a big time psychic and "president/CEO of TLC Enterprises" doing
in a furnished rental by the airport? Having a little problem with the
Condo's payments?
hutch
"Once an idea is created, it never disappears, no matter
how often it is disproved" -- as quoted by Milton Rothman
alt.paranormal seems to be taking a turn for the better...
Ronald Bobo <ron...@stlnet.com> wrote in article
<68ebop$k4p$1...@news.stlnet.com>...
Randi's attorneys have told him not to discuss the case until it's been
resolved. But you already knew that.
> If I am in error, let the cultmaster himself respond.
>
> Ron
See above. Be patient. When it's all over, the true facts will be known.
You're setting yourself up for a major letdown, Ron. You should rethink
your membership in the CurleyCult. Membership has been declining lately.
I don't think you'll have much to worry about if Randi accepted your
challenge. He's gone up against the biggest names in the paranormal
superstition business, very publicly, only to watch them scurry off in
embarrassment. Usenet paranormal buffs are a dime-a-dozen, and I doubt
he has the time to waste on every superstitious person who thinks
they've found scientific evidence of the paranormal. Libel and slander,
OTOH, may garner an additional response.
> alt.paranormal seems to be taking a turn for the better...
One big reason is Dan has quit robo-spamming the same articles over and
over.
> Ronald Bobo <ron...@stlnet.com> wrote in article
> <68ebop$k4p$1...@news.stlnet.com>...
> > Apparently, Randi has tucked his tail between his lega and run
> yipping
> > to shelter - we don't hear anything about this alleged "lawsuit" any
> more.
> >
If you have evidence of your accusations, Canadian law REQUIRES you to
take it to the nearest law enforcement agency. If you don't have proof, I
would suggest you consult a lawyer regarding defense against a charge of
'libel'.
> Lou Minatti <slar...@concentric.net> wrote in article
> > I don't think you'll have much to worry about if Randi accepted your
> > challenge.
>
> I'm sure he's too busy. Not a problem here.
>
> > He's gone up against the biggest names in the paranormal
> > superstition business, very publicly, only to watch them scurry off in
> > embarrassment.
>
> Is this supposed to scare me, or encourage me?
>
> > Usenet paranormal buffs are a dime-a-dozen,
>
> Maybe so, but a Benedictine monk with magna- and summa- cum laude degrees
> in Psychology and Philosophy, with a specialization in neurological
> correlates of mystical experience, is something else altogether.
Bachelor's degrees in psychology and philosophy? Those aren't trivial
to get, but I'm afraid they *are* dime-a-dozen. Tying them to some
bizarre specialty like "neurological correlates of mystical experience"
cheapens them a bit, too -- it sounds like you wasted four years of
undergraduate study pursuing gobbledygook.
>
> > and I doubt
> > he has the time to waste on every superstitious person who thinks
> > they've found scientific evidence of the paranormal.
>
> Why, Lou (or should I say Scott?) when you get all emotional and devoted to
> your little god of skepticism, I get all teary-eyed! Next thing, you'll
> send me a .wav file of "God Bless America"! If you believed in God, that
> is.
Please clarify what you found "emotional" in the above quote...I don't see
it.
>
> > Libel and slander,
> > OTOH, may garner an additional response.
> >
> Libel and slander are for amateurs, Scotty. Try phenomenological analysis,
> or chaos theoretic models of consciousness, if you can take the pace.
*More* nonsensical gobbledygook. Yes, you did waste a few years of college
on a load of crap, didn't you?
Benedict, Chapter 6 of the Rule:" I said that I would watch my ways that I
might not sin by my speech; I guarded my mouth and became mute; I humbly
held my peace even from good things."
Humility seems to be lacking in your prideful postings, Brother Kurt.
>
> br. kurt, CyberDragon: Guardian of the Believers on alt.paranormal...
--
PZ Myers
1). Ed tried to commit fraud against innocent people again by claiming
that he is looking for "investment" in a non-existant company with a
certain Dr. Romberg, who is either a sock puppet of Earl's, or is port
of the fraud, or was himself defrauded by Earl - I am not sure of the
details.
2). Steve Sebastian caught him at it and screwed up his attempts at
fraud.
3). Now Earl has no idea what scam to pull next, so he invents a "15
year old girl" that Steve "stalked" in order to deflect attention from
his (Earl's) lies and fraud attempts.
4). Steve - do us all a favor - sue the idiot. I know it is unlikely you
will ever collect anyting but empty T-bird bottles, and old Mac, and a
stolen external hard disk full of porn pics downloaded with a 4800
modem, but at least Earl will have to stop his silly accusations. I'm
getting sick of it too.
> Earl, I have been amazed at the responses from some of these
> "jailhouse
> lawyers." Apparently, they are too ignorant to know that, under
> Canadian
> law, one does not have the "anything goes" freedom of speech that the
> nine
> senile old men in the USA say is OK.
I see that you support censorship, and that you have no idea that the US
supreme court has two women in it.
>
>
> Hang in there,
>
> Ron
> However, the net is a true democracy - and there are always thorns in
> every paradise.
>
> Regards, Pete
...aka the "Thorn" (in his own side).
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> Libel and slander are for amateurs, Scotty. Try phenomenological analysis,
> or chaos theoretic models of consciousness, if you can take the pace.
..and the mounds of bullshit.
> br. kurt, CyberDragon: Guardian of the Believers on alt.paranormal...
What are you guarding them from? Reality?
(8)Stompy
> > What are you guarding them from? Reality?
> >
> no, from you, actually...can you even spell *phenomenology*?
Can you spell *lamenetkooklosercurleywannbe*?
> Earl, I have been amazed at the responses from some of these "jailhouse
> lawyers." Apparently, they are too ignorant to know that, under Canadian
> law, one does not have the "anything goes" freedom of speech that the nine
> senile old men in the USA say is OK.
Oh, so you're a Canadian jailhouse lawyer, Ron?
If the freedom of speech laws are a little tougher up there, Ron, then
the noose will tighten that much more around Earl for making libellous
and false statements.
> Apparently, Randi has tucked his tail between his lega and run yipping
> to shelter - we don't hear anything about this alleged "lawsuit" any more.
A gag order in a lawsuit means that party most likely to prevail is
turning tail?
More of the usual Bobo-Bizarro-Logic.
>
> If I am in error, let the cultmaster himself respond.
And if he doesn't read this newsgroup, Ron?
By Ron Bobo's reasoning, I can say that Ron Bobo's Dad is a window
dresser for Fredrick's of Hollywood. If I am in error, let Pope John
Paul himself respond.
Ron will say that he wasn't referring to the US Supreme court.
He won't say who he was referring to.
Ron thinks he's the Devil's Advocate, but the Devil disowned him.
You did a much better job of it than Earl did. You got the Recevied headers
matching the To address. Only thing I can see with it which makes me suspicious
is that the Message ID doesn't match up with the from domain, (satan.edu v
satan.com). This doesn't neccessarily mean that it's forged, but it's an
indication. (Yes, I know this is definatly forged).
Lou Minatti <slar...@concentric.net> wrote in article
> I don't think you'll have much to worry about if Randi accepted your
> challenge.
I'm sure he's too busy. Not a problem here.
> He's gone up against the biggest names in the paranormal
> superstition business, very publicly, only to watch them scurry off in
> embarrassment.
Is this supposed to scare me, or encourage me?
> Usenet paranormal buffs are a dime-a-dozen,
Maybe so, but a Benedictine monk with magna- and summa- cum laude degrees
in Psychology and Philosophy, with a specialization in neurological
correlates of mystical experience, is something else altogether.
> and I doubt
> he has the time to waste on every superstitious person who thinks
> they've found scientific evidence of the paranormal.
Why, Lou (or should I say Scott?) when you get all emotional and devoted to
your little god of skepticism, I get all teary-eyed! Next thing, you'll
send me a .wav file of "God Bless America"! If you believed in God, that
is.
> Libel and slander,
> OTOH, may garner an additional response.
>
Libel and slander are for amateurs, Scotty. Try phenomenological analysis,
or chaos theoretic models of consciousness, if you can take the pace.
br. kurt, CyberDragon: Guardian of the Believers on alt.paranormal...
(1) Grungy;
(2) Sleazy;
(3) Cranky;
(4) Slimy;
(5) Creepy;
(6) Stoned;
(7) Barftone?
Enquiring minds have just gotta know!
J.White <"whitetek[nospam]"@hooked.net> wrote in article
<34AB19...@hooked.net>...
> Das Br. Der Kurt Van Kuren Von OSB wrote:
>
> > Libel and slander are for amateurs, Scotty. Try phenomenological
analysis,
> > or chaos theoretic models of consciousness, if you can take the pace.
>
> ..and the mounds of bullshit.
>
> What are you guarding them from? Reality?
>
no, from you, actually...can you even spell *phenomenology*?
br. kurt, CyberDragon: Guardian of the Believers on alt.paranormal...
Wrong. You mean to say the freedom of speech laws are a little *weaker*, not
tougher, in Canada. Nex
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"Ah, if in this world there were no such thing as cherry blossoms, perhaps
then in springtime our hearts would be at peace." Ariwara no Narihira
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That's up for you to decide.
> > Usenet paranormal buffs are a dime-a-dozen,
>
> Maybe so, but a Benedictine monk with magna- and summa- cum laude degrees
> in Psychology and Philosophy, with a specialization in neurological
> correlates of mystical experience, is something else altogether.
You're well-educated in superstitions. Bully for you.
> > and I doubt
> > he has the time to waste on every superstitious person who thinks
> > they've found scientific evidence of the paranormal.
>
> Why, Lou (or should I say Scott?)
If you so chose. My name's not a secret.
> when you get all emotional and devoted to
> your little god of skepticism, I get all teary-eyed! Next thing, you'll
> send me a .wav file of "God Bless America"! If you believed in God, that
> is.
I'm an agnostic Methodist.
> > Libel and slander,
> > OTOH, may garner an additional response.
> >
> Libel and slander are for amateurs, Scotty. Try phenomenological analysis,
> or chaos theoretic models of consciousness, if you can take the pace.
Are you calling certain parties to a lawsuit amateurs? Hmm. You seem to
consider yourself an expert. I encourage you to contact Randi.
> br. kurt, CyberDragon: Guardian of the Believers on alt.paranormal...
And what a crew you guard.
<snip>
> If I am in error, let the cultmaster himself respond.
>
>Ron
>
>
>
We hear from Earl most days.