Re: 36% Of Americans Are Retarded

[Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess]

On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 09:53:37 -0400
Painius <stars...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 07:45:21 -0400, HVAC <mr....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 7/2/2012 5:23 PM, Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> I am not a theist. Theists believe in a deity or deities. I am
>>>> not an atheist. Atheists lack belief in a deity or deities.
>>>> Both theists and atheists look at the world, such as it is, and
>>>> they, sort of, "vote" to either believe or to lack belief. My
>>>> position is that I have decided to "stay home" and not "vote" on
>>>> this issue.
>>>
>>> You appear to be claiming that you are not what you are (it's very
>>> confusing). By not believing, and not opposing belief
>>> (anti-theistic), you are clearly absent of belief, which is
>>> atheism:
>>
>> Painus is a believer. If you read between the lines, that fact
>> becomes quite clear. Now I have always prided myself on being
>> tolerant of religious freaks and crazies, but what I truly despise
>> is a hypocrite.
>
> Twist my words all you like. The only people you seem to be fooling
> are yourself, Fiddy, and atheists in general.
>
> Atheism is "king"!

Atheism is not about power or royalty, for it is merely the "absence of
belief in deities and supernatural agents." Nothing more...

> Dance for the king, jester/fool.
>
> Sheepish eyes so full of wool,
> Aren't you just the one with "pull"?
> Atheism ain't no thing,
> Clarity it cannot bring.
>
> Theism doth fare no better,
> "Trust the Lord down to the letter",
> Those both suffer lack of facts,
> Leave them reft for truer acts.

Nice poem, but it's misguided for it is skepticism that brings clarity
rather than atheism. (Skepticism certainly tends to foster atheism.)

--
Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
"Ideas do not need weapons."
-- Fidel Castro

[Painius]

Thank you, and I agree with you about skepticism. The skeptic relies
on facts. What cold, hard facts regarding atheism would be cause for
a skeptic to foster it?

Harlow, for example, is a skeptic. He is in fact a "skeptic's
skeptic", which just means that he's skeptical about almost
everything... almost.

From my perspective, this makes Harlow a real puzzle, due to the
"fact" that there are no hard, cold facts to support atheism. Yet he
does appear to be an atheist.

It's an enigma!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"Walk where there is no path - and leave a trail."

[HVAC]

On 7/3/2012 5:17 PM, Painius wrote:
>
> Harlow, for example, is a skeptic. He is in fact a "skeptic's
> skeptic", which just means that he's skeptical about almost
> everything... almost.
>
> From my perspective, this makes Harlow a real puzzle, due to the
> "fact" that there are no hard, cold facts to support atheism. Yet he
> does appear to be an atheist.
>
> It's an enigma!

No it's not. I simply take the logical position of requiring proof or
evidence before I believe in someone's assertion. You don't. You try to
couch your words to make yourself seem wise, but it's a ruse...A
smokescreen. You have fooled no one but yourself. It is obvious that you
are a believer. To me, a believer is a sucker. No offense.

Once someone like you has started down the path of belief in a 'non
trivial' deity, he opens himself up to all manner of beliefs. Such as
belief in ghosts, esp, and ANY paranormal reports. Will you now claim
that you don't believe in any type of paranormal occurrences?

That is a direct question. Please give me your usual bullshit answer.



Oh ya...I'll wait right here.




--
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[Painius]

You are no longer worth answering. You don't like yourself enough for
me to waste anymore time on you. I have won all arguments with you,
to include this one, so you continue with your own brand of bullshit
about me that you couldn't possibly believe. You're merely making
another attempt to get under my skin. Good luck with that, criminal.

[HVAC]

On 7/4/2012 6:13 AM, Painius wrote:
>
>> Oh ya...I'll wait right here.
>
> You are no longer worth answering. You don't like yourself enough for
> me to waste anymore time on you. I have won all arguments with you,
> to include this one, so you continue with your own brand of bullshit
> about me that you couldn't possibly believe. You're merely making
> another attempt to get under my skin.

Attempt? LOL!

[HVAC]

On 7/4/2012 6:13 AM, Painius wrote:
>

>> That is a direct question. Please give me your usual bullshit answer.
>>
>>
>> Oh ya...I'll wait right here.
>
> You are no longer worth answering. You don't like yourself enough for
> me to waste anymore time on you.

Capitulation noted. Apology accepted.

[Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess]

On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 17:17:44 -0400

What is your idea of what "atheism" is? Here's the definition of
atheism that I find to be reasonable: "Absence of belief in deities
and supernatural agents."

http://www.atheistfrontier.com/glossary/atheism.pl

Your definition of skepticism is peculiar too -- skepticism is about
questioning claims as much as it is about questioning facts (since new
discoveries can sometimes result in contradicting what was previously
considered to be a fact). Through skepticism, particularly with tools
like Scientific Methodology, the ultimate goal is the discovery of
"objective truth."

> Harlow, for example, is a skeptic. He is in fact a "skeptic's
> skeptic", which just means that he's skeptical about almost
> everything... almost.
>
> From my perspective, this makes Harlow a real puzzle, due to the
> "fact" that there are no hard, cold facts to support atheism. Yet he
> does appear to be an atheist.
>
> It's an enigma!

We need some clarity from you on the meaning of "skeptic" and "atheist"
before your views on Harlow can even be considered.

--

Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess

"Babies are one of my specialties. Growing up, I performed my own
circumcision."
-- Dwight Kurt Schrute III