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Feb 06 2016
The Continuing Stupidity of Ruggero Santilli
Pseudo Science
by Pepijn
Recently the following YouTube video of Thunder Energies Corporation, a
company of fringe scientist Ruggero Santilli, has gotten quite some
attention on the web, mainly on sites on the paranormal.
So what does Santilli claim this time? That antimatter produces
antimatter-light and that it can be focussed using concave lenses. This
in contrast to ‘ordinary’ light which you can focus with convex lenses.
You can also read it in detail at the website of the company:
Matter-Antimatter annihilation also requires that antimatter-light
must have energy opposite that of matter-light, as predicted by P. A. M.
Dirac in 1932 and verified by R. M. Santilli in his decades of research
on antimatter (see the the theoretical confirmation and the experimental
confirmation).
This claim by Santilli might be the easiest to debunk of all the
extraordinary claims he has made (like the existence of magnecules and
his alternative explanation for why the sun colors red when it sets).
The whole concept of antimatter-light is bullshit, because the
anti-particle of a photon is simply a photon. So if you want to speak of
antimatter-light it’s no different than ‘normal’ light.
‘Antimatter-light’ will therefore not focus with a concave lens. I will
not even bother trying to give explanations for the grainy images he
took with his Santilli-‘out-of-focus’-telescope which he claims show
Invisible Terrestrial Entities …
Santilli writes that he has an article on this discovery of Invisible
Terrestrial Entities in press with the American Journal of Modern
Physics. That’s just one of those fake journals, which will probably
print anything if you are willing to pay their fees (it’s on Beall’s
list of predatory scholarly open-access publishers – 24/5/2016: see
update below). It’s not the first article on his silly Santilli
telescope, some of affiliates wrote on it before in the same journal.
And in 2014 Santilli wrote an article, together with some friends:
“Preliminary confirmations of antimatter detection via Santilli’s
telescope with concave lenses”.
kadeisvili-antimatterlight-telescope-cliffordalgebra
‘But wait, there is no Santilli mentioned as author!’, you might think.
That’s right, but in another article on my website (from May 2013)
you’ll find my proof that ‘J.V. Kadeisvili’ is just an alias for Ruggero
Santilli himself: ‘Finding JV Kadeisvili – or Mailing with Ruggero M
Santilli‘. The website of this journal doesn’t show any useful info at
the moment, but from an announcement (2011) we pick up that the Editor
in Chief is (or was) Svetlin Georgiev, who has written a five volume
book series on the iso-mathematics of Santilli. I wonder how much
Santilli paid for that service.
Is Santilli just a mad professor? Or is he a cunning scam artist trying
to sell his ‘Santilli-ofocus-scopes’ (or even better: stock in his
businesses) to people who fall easily for sciency sounding nonsense?
Maybe both …
Update May 24th 2016: Beall is now very clear on this publisher:
“Science Publishing Group is a threat to researchers, a threat to
science communication, and a threat to science.” (see: Science
Publishing Group: A Complete Scam)
Tags: Invisible Terrestrial Entities, Kadeisvili, Ruggero Santilli,
santilli telescope, thunder energies corporation
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Christian Corda
13/06/2016 at 10:45 am (UTC 2)
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Paper correcting Santilli’s mistakes in cosmology and gravitation
published online by International Journal of Theoretical Physics:
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10773-016-3058-z
Christian Corda
11/06/2016 at 2:54 am (UTC 2)
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There is a new attack by “Luca Petronio” against Pepijn van Erp and
Frank Israel
http://www.scientificethics.org/lies-and-cheating-of-pepin-van-erp-and-frank-israel.html
Smut Clyde
11/06/2016 at 12:02 pm (UTC 2)
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I feel left out. What do I have to do to become the recipient of
one of Santilli’s denunciations myself?
Christian Corda
13/06/2016 at 9:50 am (UTC 2)
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Two possibilities:
1) You have to write a scientific paper claiming that
Santilli made some mistake.
2) You have to claim in a personal blogthat Santilli made
some mistake.
You will be immediately accused by “Luca Petronio” to be
“corrupted by organized interests on Einstein”….
Pepijn
05/06/2016 at 4:53 pm (UTC 2)
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Just to inform the readers of the comments:
Already in March I’ve started diverting comments from ‘Frank Stone’
to spam, so that they will not appear. Reason for this is that the same
IP-address was used by ‘Luca Petronio’ to utter all kind of anti-semitic
language which I will defintely not allow in the comments. But as the
the readers of this post and my longer article on Santilli will know,
all these different persona’s are in fact Ruggero, his wife Carla or
someone else of the Santilli clan. I will just treat all comments which
are easy to track back to the Santilli clan in the same way. Up to today
I blocked 2 comments by ‘Luca Petronio’ and 9 from ‘Frank Stone’.
Another reason to block those comments is that they don’t contain
anything interesting, just complaints, mainly towards me and also in the
direction of Christian Corda. That there is no proof that Corda’s paper
is accepted for publication. Well we can just wait and see, can’t we?
The cosmos won’t go anywhere in the mean time.
Of course Santilli can do all nagging and complaining on his own
websites, I see no reason to allow that here. Well, if it gets realy
pathetic I might let some comments slip through
If Santilli would start apologizing for all the insults he ever sent to
people via e-mail, remove the anti-semitic language from his website
scientificethics[dot]org, and would admit he published under false
identities in scientific journals or show some convincing evidence
otherwise, like a birth certificate or passport of “Jerdsay Kadeisvili”,
maybe than I will allow his comments on my blog.
In the mean time the readers who are interested in the economic
activities of the Santilli clan will probably enjoy reading an article
which analyzes their business model. Of course Magnegas was not pleased
with this revealing article and has announced in February that they have
found out who is the anonymous author and will pursue this individual
“to the fullest extent of the law.” I am not aware of any detailed
comments by Magnegas on the contents of the article however.
Smut Clyde
05/06/2016 at 10:57 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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the readers who are interested in the economic activities of the
Santilli clan will probably enjoy reading
Those readers will further profit by extending their reading list to
include the entwined activities of Francesco Fucilla and his family.
It is a complicated ball of hair, but Italian journalist Sylvie Coyaud
managed to disentangle the various threads into admirably lucid
sequence, and then SOTT (of all places) translated Coyaud’s report into
English:
https://www.sott.net/article/251809-Francesco-Fucilla-Impossible-science-doesnt-exist
Smut Clyde
05/06/2016 at 11:42 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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I mention Francesco Fucilla’s business activities, his creation the
Telesio-Galilei Academy of Science (originally the Santilli-Galilei
Academy), and his penchant for enthusiastic commenting, purely with the
altruistic goal of bringing Pepijn more traffic.
Pepijn
06/06/2016 at 1:59 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Fucilla left a message on this site, but didn’t follow up:
http://www.pepijnvanerp.nl/articles/finding-jerdsey-v-kadeisvili-or-mailing-with-ruggero-m-santilli/#comment-26203
Christian Corda
07/06/2016 at 10:05 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Santilli argues that black is white… Here I forward the acceptance email
of our paper in International Journal of Theoretical Physics. We have
sent the final proofs, thus, the paper will be published soon.
> Da: em [dot] ijtp [dot] f [dot] 4b4bdb [dot] 55d16ce2 [at] editorialmanager [dot] com per conto di H. Saller
> Inviato: venerdì 20 maggio 2016 11.09.27
> A: Christian Corda
> Oggetto: IJTP-D-15-01205R1 – accepted for publication
>
> Dear Dr. Corda,
>
> We are pleased to inform you that your manuscript,
> “Confusion in cosmology and gravitation”, has been accepted for publication in
> International Journal of Theoretical Physics.
>
> You will receive an e-mail from Springer in due course with regards to the following items:
>
> 1. Offprints
> 2. Colour figures
> 3. Transfer of Copyright
>
> Please remember to quote the manuscript number,
> IJTP-D-15-01205R1, whenever inquiring about your manuscript.
>
> With best regards,
> Springer Journals Editorial Office
> International Journal of Theoretical Physics
>
>
> Reviewer #1: The paper can be accepted in the current form.
>
>
> Reviewer #2: No comment is needed.
Frank Stone
07/06/2016 at 6:17 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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I think it is positive that a journal finally brings to the fore that
there is disagreement on some fundamental issues in physics. It will
open the door to people who also disagree but do not know where to go
and how to formulate the disagreements! Positive news. Corda, relax an
be happy and productive.
Christian Corda
08/06/2016 at 12:46 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
Actually, I have no doubts that “Frank Stone” is another alias of
Santilli. Thus:
Dear Ruggero,
Actually, I am both relaxed and happy ans productive. I hope the same
for you. I regret, but my paper does not bring to the fore that there is
disagreement on some fundamental issues in physics. Instead, it brings
to the fore that you made very elementary mistakes in cosmology and
gravitation. I attempted various time in last years to explain you that
the Big-Bang is NOT a cosmic explosion, I attempted various time to
explain you that you do not understand how general relativity works, but
you NEVER wanted to try to understand these issues based on your
insistence that admitting the correctness of general relativity and of
the big bang theory implies “being intentionally orchestrated to serve
organized interests on Einstein,” or similar accusations. In order to
understand general relativity and its cosmological applications, one
must have a majestic knowledge of differential geometry through years
and years of studies. I regret, but this is not your case. You indeed
confuse tensors with pseudo-tensors when analyzing the Freud Identity
and you claim that “the radial Hubble law and the expansion of the
universe imply the Earth at the center of the universe”. These are very
elementary mistakes, not “serious science”. Only people like Anderson,
Fleming and Johnson, who can be good collaborators but have null
technical knowledge of these issues and think that you are the Messiah
of science, can claim that you are correct. You are completely wrong
instead and you ridicule yourself within the Scientific Community. I
regret, but this is the truth. Please, give me a SOLE name of a serious
scientist who agrees with you on these issues. I well remember that not
only myself, but also Leong Ying, Peter Rowlands, Jorge Ovalle, Herman
Mosquera Cuesta and other researchers who attended to your conferences
in last years attempted various times to clarify these issues to you,
but it was as we were speaking with a wall. A lot of your friends agree
with me on these issues, but they have fear to speak. I have no fear
instead, because I work on these issues from almost 20 years. I am a
physicist of gravitation, while you are an applied mathematician. You
cannot pretend to be a good scientist in all the fields of science.
Science is too much complicated today and there is no room for
knowing-all scientists.
Thus, as various colleagues insisted to connect such wrong claims in
gravitation and cosmology to my name, I was forced to clarify my
position. This is a pity. In fact, your knowledge and understanding of
general relativity and modern cosmology are very low and your wrong
claims at elementary level on these issues have the only result to
generate a strong lack of credibility on the rest of your research work.
This is your biggest problem, and you are the worst enemy of yourself. I
wrote explicitly in the web which is my position on your wrong claims at
elementary level in gravitation and cosmology to preserve my reputation
and my career. If you do not understand general relativity and standard
cosmology is not my guilty. You always claim the necessity of “freedom
and democracy in science”. Thus, it is my right to openly claim that, in
gravitation and cosmology you are completely wrong at a very basic
level. You should accept criticisms and also a serious scientific
discussion rather than insulting myself and other people.
Best wishes.
Frank Stone
08/06/2016 at 5:17 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
Thank you, but I am not Santilli…anyway when your article is published,
they will see that you disagree with Santilli and vice versa so they
will know that not everybody agrees on some fundamental ideas. You must
not be very busy if you have time to write such a long letter saying
what you have said many times on this blog.
Christian Corda
09/06/2016 at 10:13 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
Yes, “Frank”, you are not Santilli. And I am spider-man…
On one hand, you are correct, my long letter was a mere copy and past of
my previous posts in this blog. Thus, I wrote it in a couple of minutes.
On the other hand, you are wrong. People will not see that I disagree
with Santilli (i.e. you) and vice versa so they will know that not
everybody agrees on some fundamental ideas. Science must be rigorous. If
you claim that 2+2=5 and I claim that 2+2=4 instead, we are not
disagreeing. Merely, you are wrong and I am correct. The same works for
tensors and pseudo-tensors. A pseudo-tensor CANNOT be the source of the
gravitational field, which is a true tensor. Again, claiming that
“Hubble’s law establishes that the cosmological redshift is the same for
all galaxies having the same distance from Earth in all directions in
space. Consequently, the conjectures on the expansion of the universe,
the acceleration of the expansion and the big bang necessarily imply a
return to the Middle Ages with Earth at the center of the universe” is a
very elementary mistake, because in modern cosmology the universe is
seen as a space-like hyper-surface having NO center. This is known at
the popularizing level, if not a high school level. Again, claiming that
the inertial mass is macroscopically different from the gravitational
mass is a big mistake, because experiments shows that the inertial mass
is equal to the gravitational mass with a precision of 10^-14. These are
NOT disagreements between myself and Santilli (i.e. you) . These are
very elementary mistakes by Santilli (i.e. you) instead. If Santilli
(i.e. you) did not study these issues is not my guilty.
Best wishes.
Pepijn
03/06/2016 at 8:19 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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So nice, Ruggero and his wife Carla will both speak at ‘Dreamers Day
2016’: http://www.dreamersday.it/speakers-2016/ Hope this doesn’t end in
a nightmare for the organizers
Smut Clyde
04/06/2016 at 1:24 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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There is also this:
http://www.flogen.org/sips2016/santilli.php
Pepijn
04/06/2016 at 2:09 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Fascinating! That company looks like a one stop shop for the ambitious
fringe scientist http://www.flogen.org/?spage=2
Cosmin Visan
31/05/2016 at 6:46 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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I did a quick check online and found he was a professor at Harvard and
published a number of books, one of them being An isodual theory of
matter… so it seems he has a number of degrees and is not prima facie,
stupid. Now I wouldn’t mind a more serious refutation of his views…
Pepijn
31/05/2016 at 8:38 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Almost all of his articles and books are self published, don’t think
it’s worth the effort to analyse in detail all what is in those
considering the quality of the stuff he is pushing the most. But you can
find debunks of some of his ideas in the International Skeptics forum
for instance http://www.internationalskeptics.com
Smut Clyde
31/05/2016 at 11:45 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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found he was a professor at Harvard
I have only seen evidence that Santilli was a post-doc in the Maths
department there, with sponsorship from the US Department of Energy,
having convinced the DoE that his unusual ideas on burning water might
work out. In the absence of results, Harvard gave him the boot in 1981.
Obviously they couldn’t have evicted Santilli if he had been an actual
tenured professor. However, if there is evidence that he was on the
faculty, I am happy to be corrected.
Christian Corda
01/06/2016 at 5:28 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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This paper has been accepted for publication in International Journal of
Theoretical Physics
http://vixra.org/abs/1506.0206
It corrects Mr. Santilli’s elementary mistakes in gravitation and
cosmology. Some of them can be corrected even by high school students…
Smut Clyde
30/05/2016 at 5:20 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Your investigations inspired this homage:
http://eusa-riddled.blogspot.com/2016/05/anti-matter-black-orbs-climbing-up.html
Christian Corda
10/05/2016 at 3:48 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Mr. Santilli has a new alias, that is Mr. “Joseph Feldman”, see this
“Nobel nomination”, hi hi hi hi
http://nobelprizeweb.com/index.php/nominations-1
Pepijn
10/05/2016 at 8:51 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Hilarious indeed! All the text that is not about Santilli seems to be
copied from the Nobelprize website or Wikipedia.
Christian Corda
12/05/2016 at 9:48 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Surely. The contact of Mr. “Joseph Feldman” is 3708 Evergreen Drive,
Texarkana, AR. 71854. By inserting this in Google, one finds a Company
of Website Design, see
http://www.texarkanaweb.com/texarkana-website-hosting.html. Thus, it is
clear what happened. Mr. Santilli and/or his running dogs “Fleming” and
“Anderson” paid the Company of Website Design for creating such a fake
“Nobel nomination”. Maybe that some ingenuous guy can think it is real…
carl
27/04/2016 at 3:35 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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I had two pictures that look like theirs. They where taken in the
eighties with a polaroid camera.They had the beads of yellow with the
hump in the middle that reminded me of the shape of a mouse(rosary
beads).This was in the dark after a outdoor mass on a New York city
island.I also saw a picture develope from the same kind of camera it had
solid yelloe blue and red lines across the picture.
Gordon Hamilton
24/03/2016 at 7:57 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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“Probably” I do not understand ? and i do not see your argument. It
looks like your a skeptic ,,, well trolling ! Put a proper argument
forward. Explain, what is being captured from his telescopes.
Pepijn
25/03/2016 at 9:22 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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It’s probably random noise, dust and broken pixels on the CCD, it’s no
wonder with exposure times of 15 sec at ISO 1600 that you will see this
stuff when you zoom in down to pixel levels. But you can read about that
in a manual on astrophotography, the pictures in the articles don’t show
something extra-ordinary.
Other pictures clearly show that with the amateurish equipment Santilli
uses, he isn’t even able to hold the camera stable because of ‘small
fluctuations due to wind’. If he wants to impress scientists, he has to
show something more convincing.
Dana Bridenbaker
23/03/2016 at 11:55 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Dang. I love when smart people argue
Even when they are wrong they can try to sound correct about something
else.
Hell, you make people money for their families. You win.
Sorry Pepijn but if you don’t make money it don’t make sense…
Pepijn
24/03/2016 at 6:19 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Argumentum ad crumenam
Martin
20/04/2016 at 6:25 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Dang, I love it when not-so-smart people reply.
Even when they should know that they are wrong,
they try to sound correct about something.
Hell, they scam money from people’s families. They are losers.
Sorry Dana, if you do not have knowledge you don’t make sense .
Andy roundtree
16/03/2016 at 5:40 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Check out Harvard classes on isodual mathematics. That must be in on the
joke
Pepijn
16/03/2016 at 6:11 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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‘Check out’!? Don’t you have link for a recent course at Harvard? And
I’m not interested in something from before 1980-something when Santilli
was still in the neighborhood over there.
Adam
15/03/2016 at 12:45 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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To an intelligent lay person, your article isn’t very convincing. I’m
not saying I don’t believe that the science done by Mr. Santilli and his
company is poor. It very well could be, but your article does little to
show it. Instead, you offer conjecture for why you outright dismiss the
possibility of his telescope (which is presumably being used by
someone). Additionally, your article reads very arrogantly like you
dismiss what they have to say out of hand. Perhaps a better way is
rational argument than name calling like “stupid,” “mad professor,” or
“cunning scams.”
But I’m sure from seeing above that you’ll post a snarky comment about
how I’m being paid. I’m not, nor do I know any of these people.
Pepijn
15/03/2016 at 2:06 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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If you have read the other article on my website on Santilli I linked to
in this blog post, you’ll probably understand why I will not bother to
explain in more detail why this telescope is nonsense. I blocked ‘Frank
Stone’ from further commenting, because I have good reasons to think,
he/she is either Santilli himself, his wife Carla or someone real close
to them and who is fully aware of their ‘scientific’ business and
threatening e-mails which feature anti-semitic language. I will not
allow that here on my own site.
Martin
20/04/2016 at 6:12 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Oh man, anti-matter light ! Basic nonsense !
You were warned right at the beginning.
Justin Asaya
13/03/2016 at 1:12 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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The American Journal Of Modern Physics is not included on the Beals List
link you provided. If you’re going to discredit someone for lack of
accuracy, please try to not be innacurate yourself…
Pepijn
13/03/2016 at 3:11 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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It’s a journal of the Science Publishing Group, which is on the list.
Christian Corda
07/02/2016 at 10:22 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Notice that the Editor in Chief of CACAA (which is the Italian
translation of shit) is Mr. Svetlin Georgiev, that is one of Mr.
Santilli’s running dogs
Sue Johnson
06/02/2016 at 9:53 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Last year the Tampa Bay Times published an article (April 16, 2015)
about an industrial explosion resulting in one death at Santilli’s
company, MagneGas. The article notes that the company had steadily been
losing money; shares were so low NASDAQ had threatened to de-list the
stock earlier in the year. Hence telescopes? Thunder Energies is just
down the street from MagneGas in Tarpon Springs, Florida.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/breaking-explosion-at-tarpon-springs-gas-facility-leaves-one-injured/2225829
Frank Stone
14/03/2016 at 3:33 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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What have the people on this blog done in their lives to contribute to
society?
Magnegas has supported 30 – 50 families for the last 15 years…that is
has created jobs requiring payroll, insurance, medical and retirement
benefits, dignity of employment. Magnegas has injected million of
dollars in the local economy…what have you done?
Debunking and skepticism are appropriate activities. Insult and libel
are not.
Do you know the fable of the fox and the grapes?
Pepijn
14/03/2016 at 3:55 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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So ‘Frank’, can you tell us what your function is at Thunder Energies
Corp.? Or at the other Santilli companies or phoney organisations?
Actually, never mind answering: you’re using the same IP-address as
‘Luca Petronio’ which left all kind of anti-semitic ramblings on this
site and the e-mail address was also in use by Carla Santilli and
‘Pamela Fleming’.
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29/05/2016 at 1:51 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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The Continuing Stupidity of Ruggero Santilli
Pseudo Science
by Pepijn
Recently the following YouTube video of Thunder Energies Corporation, a
company of fringe scientist Ruggero Santilli, has gotten quite some
attention on the web, mainly on sites on the paranormal.
So what does Santilli claim this time? That antimatter produces
antimatter-light and that it can be focussed using concave lenses. This
in contrast to ‘ordinary’ light which you can focus with convex lenses.
You can also read it in detail at the website of the company:
Matter-Antimatter annihilation also requires that antimatter-light
must have energy opposite that of matter-light, as predicted by P. A. M.
Dirac in 1932 and verified by R. M. Santilli in his decades of research
on antimatter (see the the theoretical confirmation and the experimental
confirmation).
This claim by Santilli might be the easiest to debunk of all the
extraordinary claims he has made (like the existence of magnecules and
his alternative explanation for why the sun colors red when it sets).
The whole concept of antimatter-light is bullshit, because the
anti-particle of a photon is simply a photon. So if you want to speak of
antimatter-light it’s no different than ‘normal’ light.
‘Antimatter-light’ will therefore not focus with a concave lens. I will
not even bother trying to give explanations for the grainy images he
took with his Santilli-‘out-of-focus’-telescope which he claims show
Invisible Terrestrial Entities …
Santilli writes that he has an article on this discovery of Invisible
Terrestrial Entities in press with the American Journal of Modern
Physics. That’s just one of those fake journals, which will probably
print anything if you are willing to pay their fees (it’s on Beall’s
list of predatory scholarly open-access publishers – 24/5/2016: see
update below). It’s not the first article on his silly Santilli
telescope, some of affiliates wrote on it before in the same journal.
And in 2014 Santilli wrote an article, together with some friends:
“Preliminary confirmations of antimatter detection via Santilli’s
telescope with concave lenses”.
kadeisvili-antimatterlight-telescope-cliffordalgebra
‘But wait, there is no Santilli mentioned as author!’, you might think.
That’s right, but in another article on my website (from May 2013)
you’ll find my proof that ‘J.V. Kadeisvili’ is just an alias for Ruggero
Santilli himself: ‘Finding JV Kadeisvili – or Mailing with Ruggero M
Santilli‘. The website of this journal doesn’t show any useful info at
the moment, but from an announcement (2011) we pick up that the Editor
in Chief is (or was) Svetlin Georgiev, who has written a five volume
book series on the iso-mathematics of Santilli. I wonder how much
Santilli paid for that service.
Is Santilli just a mad professor? Or is he a cunning scam artist trying
to sell his ‘Santilli-ofocus-scopes’ (or even better: stock in his
businesses) to people who fall easily for sciency sounding nonsense?
Maybe both …
Update May 24th 2016: Beall is now very clear on this publisher:
“Science Publishing Group is a threat to researchers, a threat to
science communication, and a threat to science.” (see: Science
Publishing Group: A Complete Scam)
Tags: Invisible Terrestrial Entities, Kadeisvili, Ruggero Santilli,
santilli telescope, thunder energies corporation
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Christian Corda
13/06/2016 at 10:45 am (UTC 2)
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Paper correcting Santilli’s mistakes in cosmology and gravitation
published online by International Journal of Theoretical Physics:
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10773-016-3058-z
Christian Corda
11/06/2016 at 2:54 am (UTC 2)
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There is a new attack by “Luca Petronio” against Pepijn van Erp and
Frank Israel
http://www.scientificethics.org/lies-and-cheating-of-pepin-van-erp-and-frank-israel.html
Smut Clyde
11/06/2016 at 12:02 pm (UTC 2)
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I feel left out. What do I have to do to become the recipient of
one of Santilli’s denunciations myself?
Christian Corda
13/06/2016 at 9:50 am (UTC 2)
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Two possibilities:
1) You have to write a scientific paper claiming that
Santilli made some mistake.
2) You have to claim in a personal blogthat Santilli made
some mistake.
You will be immediately accused by “Luca Petronio” to be
“corrupted by organized interests on Einstein”….
Pepijn
05/06/2016 at 4:53 pm (UTC 2)
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Just to inform the readers of the comments:
Already in March I’ve started diverting comments from ‘Frank Stone’
to spam, so that they will not appear. Reason for this is that the same
IP-address was used by ‘Luca Petronio’ to utter all kind of anti-semitic
language which I will defintely not allow in the comments. But as the
the readers of this post and my longer article on Santilli will know,
all these different persona’s are in fact Ruggero, his wife Carla or
someone else of the Santilli clan. I will just treat all comments which
are easy to track back to the Santilli clan in the same way. Up to today
I blocked 2 comments by ‘Luca Petronio’ and 9 from ‘Frank Stone’.
Another reason to block those comments is that they don’t contain
anything interesting, just complaints, mainly towards me and also in the
direction of Christian Corda. That there is no proof that Corda’s paper
is accepted for publication. Well we can just wait and see, can’t we?
The cosmos won’t go anywhere in the mean time.
Of course Santilli can do all nagging and complaining on his own
websites, I see no reason to allow that here. Well, if it gets realy
pathetic I might let some comments slip through
If Santilli would start apologizing for all the insults he ever sent to
people via e-mail, remove the anti-semitic language from his website
scientificethics[dot]org, and would admit he published under false
identities in scientific journals or show some convincing evidence
otherwise, like a birth certificate or passport of “Jerdsay Kadeisvili”,
maybe than I will allow his comments on my blog.
In the mean time the readers who are interested in the economic
activities of the Santilli clan will probably enjoy reading an article
which analyzes their business model. Of course Magnegas was not pleased
with this revealing article and has announced in February that they have
found out who is the anonymous author and will pursue this individual
“to the fullest extent of the law.” I am not aware of any detailed
comments by Magnegas on the contents of the article however.
Smut Clyde
05/06/2016 at 10:57 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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the readers who are interested in the economic activities of the
Santilli clan will probably enjoy reading
Those readers will further profit by extending their reading list to
include the entwined activities of Francesco Fucilla and his family.
It is a complicated ball of hair, but Italian journalist Sylvie Coyaud
managed to disentangle the various threads into admirably lucid
sequence, and then SOTT (of all places) translated Coyaud’s report into
English:
https://www.sott.net/article/251809-Francesco-Fucilla-Impossible-science-doesnt-exist
Smut Clyde
05/06/2016 at 11:42 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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I mention Francesco Fucilla’s business activities, his creation the
Telesio-Galilei Academy of Science (originally the Santilli-Galilei
Academy), and his penchant for enthusiastic commenting, purely with the
altruistic goal of bringing Pepijn more traffic.
Pepijn
06/06/2016 at 1:59 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Fucilla left a message on this site, but didn’t follow up:
http://www.pepijnvanerp.nl/articles/finding-jerdsey-v-kadeisvili-or-mailing-with-ruggero-m-santilli/#comment-26203
Christian Corda
07/06/2016 at 10:05 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Santilli argues that black is white… Here I forward the acceptance email
of our paper in International Journal of Theoretical Physics. We have
sent the final proofs, thus, the paper will be published soon.
> Da: em [dot] ijtp [dot] f [dot] 4b4bdb [dot] 55d16ce2 [at] editorialmanager [dot] com per conto di H. Saller
> Inviato: venerdì 20 maggio 2016 11.09.27
> A: Christian Corda
> Oggetto: IJTP-D-15-01205R1 – accepted for publication
>
> Dear Dr. Corda,
>
> We are pleased to inform you that your manuscript,
> “Confusion in cosmology and gravitation”, has been accepted for publication in
> International Journal of Theoretical Physics.
>
> You will receive an e-mail from Springer in due course with regards to the following items:
>
> 1. Offprints
> 2. Colour figures
> 3. Transfer of Copyright
>
> Please remember to quote the manuscript number,
> IJTP-D-15-01205R1, whenever inquiring about your manuscript.
>
> With best regards,
> Springer Journals Editorial Office
> International Journal of Theoretical Physics
>
>
> Reviewer #1: The paper can be accepted in the current form.
>
>
> Reviewer #2: No comment is needed.
Frank Stone
07/06/2016 at 6:17 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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I think it is positive that a journal finally brings to the fore that
there is disagreement on some fundamental issues in physics. It will
open the door to people who also disagree but do not know where to go
and how to formulate the disagreements! Positive news. Corda, relax an
be happy and productive.
Christian Corda
08/06/2016 at 12:46 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
Actually, I have no doubts that “Frank Stone” is another alias of
Santilli. Thus:
Dear Ruggero,
Actually, I am both relaxed and happy ans productive. I hope the same
for you. I regret, but my paper does not bring to the fore that there is
disagreement on some fundamental issues in physics. Instead, it brings
to the fore that you made very elementary mistakes in cosmology and
gravitation. I attempted various time in last years to explain you that
the Big-Bang is NOT a cosmic explosion, I attempted various time to
explain you that you do not understand how general relativity works, but
you NEVER wanted to try to understand these issues based on your
insistence that admitting the correctness of general relativity and of
the big bang theory implies “being intentionally orchestrated to serve
organized interests on Einstein,” or similar accusations. In order to
understand general relativity and its cosmological applications, one
must have a majestic knowledge of differential geometry through years
and years of studies. I regret, but this is not your case. You indeed
confuse tensors with pseudo-tensors when analyzing the Freud Identity
and you claim that “the radial Hubble law and the expansion of the
universe imply the Earth at the center of the universe”. These are very
elementary mistakes, not “serious science”. Only people like Anderson,
Fleming and Johnson, who can be good collaborators but have null
technical knowledge of these issues and think that you are the Messiah
of science, can claim that you are correct. You are completely wrong
instead and you ridicule yourself within the Scientific Community. I
regret, but this is the truth. Please, give me a SOLE name of a serious
scientist who agrees with you on these issues. I well remember that not
only myself, but also Leong Ying, Peter Rowlands, Jorge Ovalle, Herman
Mosquera Cuesta and other researchers who attended to your conferences
in last years attempted various times to clarify these issues to you,
but it was as we were speaking with a wall. A lot of your friends agree
with me on these issues, but they have fear to speak. I have no fear
instead, because I work on these issues from almost 20 years. I am a
physicist of gravitation, while you are an applied mathematician. You
cannot pretend to be a good scientist in all the fields of science.
Science is too much complicated today and there is no room for
knowing-all scientists.
Thus, as various colleagues insisted to connect such wrong claims in
gravitation and cosmology to my name, I was forced to clarify my
position. This is a pity. In fact, your knowledge and understanding of
general relativity and modern cosmology are very low and your wrong
claims at elementary level on these issues have the only result to
generate a strong lack of credibility on the rest of your research work.
This is your biggest problem, and you are the worst enemy of yourself. I
wrote explicitly in the web which is my position on your wrong claims at
elementary level in gravitation and cosmology to preserve my reputation
and my career. If you do not understand general relativity and standard
cosmology is not my guilty. You always claim the necessity of “freedom
and democracy in science”. Thus, it is my right to openly claim that, in
gravitation and cosmology you are completely wrong at a very basic
level. You should accept criticisms and also a serious scientific
discussion rather than insulting myself and other people.
Best wishes.
Frank Stone
08/06/2016 at 5:17 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
Thank you, but I am not Santilli…anyway when your article is published,
they will see that you disagree with Santilli and vice versa so they
will know that not everybody agrees on some fundamental ideas. You must
not be very busy if you have time to write such a long letter saying
what you have said many times on this blog.
Christian Corda
09/06/2016 at 10:13 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
Yes, “Frank”, you are not Santilli. And I am spider-man…
On one hand, you are correct, my long letter was a mere copy and past of
my previous posts in this blog. Thus, I wrote it in a couple of minutes.
On the other hand, you are wrong. People will not see that I disagree
with Santilli (i.e. you) and vice versa so they will know that not
everybody agrees on some fundamental ideas. Science must be rigorous. If
you claim that 2+2=5 and I claim that 2+2=4 instead, we are not
disagreeing. Merely, you are wrong and I am correct. The same works for
tensors and pseudo-tensors. A pseudo-tensor CANNOT be the source of the
gravitational field, which is a true tensor. Again, claiming that
“Hubble’s law establishes that the cosmological redshift is the same for
all galaxies having the same distance from Earth in all directions in
space. Consequently, the conjectures on the expansion of the universe,
the acceleration of the expansion and the big bang necessarily imply a
return to the Middle Ages with Earth at the center of the universe” is a
very elementary mistake, because in modern cosmology the universe is
seen as a space-like hyper-surface having NO center. This is known at
the popularizing level, if not a high school level. Again, claiming that
the inertial mass is macroscopically different from the gravitational
mass is a big mistake, because experiments shows that the inertial mass
is equal to the gravitational mass with a precision of 10^-14. These are
NOT disagreements between myself and Santilli (i.e. you) . These are
very elementary mistakes by Santilli (i.e. you) instead. If Santilli
(i.e. you) did not study these issues is not my guilty.
Best wishes.
Pepijn
03/06/2016 at 8:19 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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So nice, Ruggero and his wife Carla will both speak at ‘Dreamers Day
2016’: http://www.dreamersday.it/speakers-2016/ Hope this doesn’t end in
a nightmare for the organizers
Smut Clyde
04/06/2016 at 1:24 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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There is also this:
http://www.flogen.org/sips2016/santilli.php
Pepijn
04/06/2016 at 2:09 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Fascinating! That company looks like a one stop shop for the ambitious
fringe scientist http://www.flogen.org/?spage=2
Cosmin Visan
31/05/2016 at 6:46 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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I did a quick check online and found he was a professor at Harvard and
published a number of books, one of them being An isodual theory of
matter… so it seems he has a number of degrees and is not prima facie,
stupid. Now I wouldn’t mind a more serious refutation of his views…
Pepijn
31/05/2016 at 8:38 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Almost all of his articles and books are self published, don’t think
it’s worth the effort to analyse in detail all what is in those
considering the quality of the stuff he is pushing the most. But you can
find debunks of some of his ideas in the International Skeptics forum
for instance http://www.internationalskeptics.com
Smut Clyde
31/05/2016 at 11:45 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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found he was a professor at Harvard
I have only seen evidence that Santilli was a post-doc in the Maths
department there, with sponsorship from the US Department of Energy,
having convinced the DoE that his unusual ideas on burning water might
work out. In the absence of results, Harvard gave him the boot in 1981.
Obviously they couldn’t have evicted Santilli if he had been an actual
tenured professor. However, if there is evidence that he was on the
faculty, I am happy to be corrected.
Christian Corda
01/06/2016 at 5:28 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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This paper has been accepted for publication in International Journal of
Theoretical Physics
http://vixra.org/abs/1506.0206
It corrects Mr. Santilli’s elementary mistakes in gravitation and
cosmology. Some of them can be corrected even by high school students…
Smut Clyde
30/05/2016 at 5:20 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Your investigations inspired this homage:
http://eusa-riddled.blogspot.com/2016/05/anti-matter-black-orbs-climbing-up.html
Christian Corda
10/05/2016 at 3:48 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Mr. Santilli has a new alias, that is Mr. “Joseph Feldman”, see this
“Nobel nomination”, hi hi hi hi
http://nobelprizeweb.com/index.php/nominations-1
Pepijn
10/05/2016 at 8:51 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Hilarious indeed! All the text that is not about Santilli seems to be
copied from the Nobelprize website or Wikipedia.
Christian Corda
12/05/2016 at 9:48 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Surely. The contact of Mr. “Joseph Feldman” is 3708 Evergreen Drive,
Texarkana, AR. 71854. By inserting this in Google, one finds a Company
of Website Design, see
http://www.texarkanaweb.com/texarkana-website-hosting.html. Thus, it is
clear what happened. Mr. Santilli and/or his running dogs “Fleming” and
“Anderson” paid the Company of Website Design for creating such a fake
“Nobel nomination”. Maybe that some ingenuous guy can think it is real…
carl
27/04/2016 at 3:35 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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I had two pictures that look like theirs. They where taken in the
eighties with a polaroid camera.They had the beads of yellow with the
hump in the middle that reminded me of the shape of a mouse(rosary
beads).This was in the dark after a outdoor mass on a New York city
island.I also saw a picture develope from the same kind of camera it had
solid yelloe blue and red lines across the picture.
Gordon Hamilton
24/03/2016 at 7:57 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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“Probably” I do not understand ? and i do not see your argument. It
looks like your a skeptic ,,, well trolling ! Put a proper argument
forward. Explain, what is being captured from his telescopes.
Pepijn
25/03/2016 at 9:22 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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It’s probably random noise, dust and broken pixels on the CCD, it’s no
wonder with exposure times of 15 sec at ISO 1600 that you will see this
stuff when you zoom in down to pixel levels. But you can read about that
in a manual on astrophotography, the pictures in the articles don’t show
something extra-ordinary.
Other pictures clearly show that with the amateurish equipment Santilli
uses, he isn’t even able to hold the camera stable because of ‘small
fluctuations due to wind’. If he wants to impress scientists, he has to
show something more convincing.
Dana Bridenbaker
23/03/2016 at 11:55 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Dang. I love when smart people argue
Even when they are wrong they can try to sound correct about something
else.
Hell, you make people money for their families. You win.
Sorry Pepijn but if you don’t make money it don’t make sense…
Pepijn
24/03/2016 at 6:19 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Argumentum ad crumenam
Martin
20/04/2016 at 6:25 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Dang, I love it when not-so-smart people reply.
Even when they should know that they are wrong,
they try to sound correct about something.
Hell, they scam money from people’s families. They are losers.
Sorry Dana, if you do not have knowledge you don’t make sense .
Andy roundtree
16/03/2016 at 5:40 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Check out Harvard classes on isodual mathematics. That must be in on the
joke
Pepijn
16/03/2016 at 6:11 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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‘Check out’!? Don’t you have link for a recent course at Harvard? And
I’m not interested in something from before 1980-something when Santilli
was still in the neighborhood over there.
Adam
15/03/2016 at 12:45 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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To an intelligent lay person, your article isn’t very convincing. I’m
not saying I don’t believe that the science done by Mr. Santilli and his
company is poor. It very well could be, but your article does little to
show it. Instead, you offer conjecture for why you outright dismiss the
possibility of his telescope (which is presumably being used by
someone). Additionally, your article reads very arrogantly like you
dismiss what they have to say out of hand. Perhaps a better way is
rational argument than name calling like “stupid,” “mad professor,” or
“cunning scams.”
But I’m sure from seeing above that you’ll post a snarky comment about
how I’m being paid. I’m not, nor do I know any of these people.
Pepijn
15/03/2016 at 2:06 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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If you have read the other article on my website on Santilli I linked to
in this blog post, you’ll probably understand why I will not bother to
explain in more detail why this telescope is nonsense. I blocked ‘Frank
Stone’ from further commenting, because I have good reasons to think,
he/she is either Santilli himself, his wife Carla or someone real close
to them and who is fully aware of their ‘scientific’ business and
threatening e-mails which feature anti-semitic language. I will not
allow that here on my own site.
Martin
20/04/2016 at 6:12 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Oh man, anti-matter light ! Basic nonsense !
You were warned right at the beginning.
Justin Asaya
13/03/2016 at 1:12 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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The American Journal Of Modern Physics is not included on the Beals List
link you provided. If you’re going to discredit someone for lack of
accuracy, please try to not be innacurate yourself…
Pepijn
13/03/2016 at 3:11 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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It’s a journal of the Science Publishing Group, which is on the list.
Christian Corda
07/02/2016 at 10:22 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Notice that the Editor in Chief of CACAA (which is the Italian
translation of shit) is Mr. Svetlin Georgiev, that is one of Mr.
Santilli’s running dogs
Sue Johnson
06/02/2016 at 9:53 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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Last year the Tampa Bay Times published an article (April 16, 2015)
about an industrial explosion resulting in one death at Santilli’s
company, MagneGas. The article notes that the company had steadily been
losing money; shares were so low NASDAQ had threatened to de-list the
stock earlier in the year. Hence telescopes? Thunder Energies is just
down the street from MagneGas in Tarpon Springs, Florida.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/breaking-explosion-at-tarpon-springs-gas-facility-leaves-one-injured/2225829
Frank Stone
14/03/2016 at 3:33 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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What have the people on this blog done in their lives to contribute to
society?
Magnegas has supported 30 – 50 families for the last 15 years…that is
has created jobs requiring payroll, insurance, medical and retirement
benefits, dignity of employment. Magnegas has injected million of
dollars in the local economy…what have you done?
Debunking and skepticism are appropriate activities. Insult and libel
are not.
Do you know the fable of the fox and the grapes?
Pepijn
14/03/2016 at 3:55 pm (UTC 2) Link to this comment
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So ‘Frank’, can you tell us what your function is at Thunder Energies
Corp.? Or at the other Santilli companies or phoney organisations?
Actually, never mind answering: you’re using the same IP-address as
‘Luca Petronio’ which left all kind of anti-semitic ramblings on this
site and the e-mail address was also in use by Carla Santilli and
‘Pamela Fleming’.
wzrd1
29/05/2016 at 1:51 am (UTC 2) Link to this comment
Having the logs removes all mysteries in life.
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