UK-- coldest winter in 30 years
bn 0o
Caused by AGW right? Even though that's been disproven.
LOL
RL
LONDON � Unusually heavy snowfall stranded hundreds of motorists,
disrupted trains and shut down schools and airports across Britain on
Wednesday as the country suffered through its longest cold snap in
nearly 30 years.
AStext
No doubt you're highly amused by this:
Laughing so hard my sides are splitting.
Seon Ferguson
U.N. says ignore the cold, warming is still a problem 17
GENEVA-Icy conditions that have claimed dozens of lives across Europe since
November are partly due to La Nina, an upsurge of cooler water to the
Pacific Ocean surface, the UN's weather agency said Friday.
"The cold snap currently being experienced can be partly attributed to the
La Nina phenomenon, which is a cooling of the sea surface in the central and
eastern Equatorial Pacific," the World Meteorological Organization (WMO)
said.
"However, it should be recalled that weather conditions are the result of
extremely complex interactions, and, therefore, one particular event cannot
be attributed to one specific cause," the statement added.
Michel Jarraud, secretary-general of the Geneva-based agency, urged people
not to believe that the extreme cold weather Europe was experiencing was in
any way evidence against global warming.
"The harsh winter in Europe should not hide the fact that the study of
global temperatures registered since 1850, which is when reliable
meteorological records began, undoubtedly shows global warming," the WMO
said.
The UN agency pointed out that although 2008 was cooler than 2007, it was
still the 10th warmest on record.
Extreme conditions in recent days have seen: heavy snow in Marseille in
southern France for the first time in 20 years; Madrid's airport forced to
close due to rare snowfalls; and more than 80 deaths from the cold in Poland
alone.
bn 0o
"Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:mbednZinaux2-djW...@westnet.com.au...
> http://www.grist.org/article/europe_weather
>
> U.N. says ignore the cold, warming is still a problem 17
>
Yes, yes, we know the drill by now .....
Hot weather is caused by .
. GLOBAL WARMING!
. EXTREME WEATHER!
. THE ENVIRONMENT FIGHTING BACK!
Cold weather is caused by .
. a dry air mass and clear skies.
. a cold front.
. nothing in particular.
Warmest Regards
Bon_0
"It is a remarkable fact that despite the worldwide expenditure of perhaps
US$50 billion since 1990, and the efforts of tens of thousands of scientists
worldwide, no human climate signal has yet been detected that is distinct
from natural variation."
Bob Carter, Research Professor of Geology, James Cook University, Townsville
Surfer
wrote:
<Start extract>
Lord Monckton, a former adviser to Margaret Thatcher, said he had been
made to look like a 'potty peer'.....
<End extract>
I wonder if he is still spouting on about a conspiracy to establish
world government?
Surfer
>
>"Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:mbednZinaux2-djW...@westnet.com.au...
>> http://www.grist.org/article/europe_weather
>>
>> U.N. says ignore the cold, warming is still a problem 17
>>
>
>
>Yes, yes, we know the drill by now .....
>
In spite of the cold snap, this graph shows that there was less Arctic
sea ice in December 2009 then in near all preceeding Decembers since
satellite measurements began.
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/n_plot_hires.pn
The average rate of decrease is 3.3% per decade.
So the cold snap hasn't corrected the melting trend.
george
> In spite of the cold snap, this graph shows that there was less Arctic
> sea ice in December 2009 then in near all preceeding Decembers since
> satellite measurements began.http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/n_plot_hires.pn
>
> The average rate of decrease is 3.3% per decade.
>
> So the cold snap hasn't corrected the melting trend.
Ah it doesn't happen overnight as you know.
All those global warming 'scientists' and media junkies seem to have
gone to earth
n0 b o
"Tom P" <wero...@freent.dd> wrote in message
news:7qnc6n...@mid.individual.net...
> Bill Ward wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 09:27:36 -0600, Tom P wrote:
>>
>>> Bill Ward wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 23:04:55 -0600, Tom P wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> chemist wrote:
>>>>>> On Jan 6, 4:45 pm, RayLopez99 <raylope...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Wait--this is due to the cessation of the thermohaline cycle right?
>>>>>>> Caused by AGW right? Even though that's been disproven.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LONDON � Unusually heavy snowfall stranded hundreds of motorists,
>>>>>>> disrupted trains and shut down schools and airports across Britain
>>>>>>> on Wednesday as the country suffered through its longest cold snap
>>>>>>> in nearly 30 years.
>>>>>> forecast is more of it.
>>>>> So what do think is causing the cold weather? Global cooling? Looked
>>>>> at a weather map recently, one of those things with isobars and stuff?
>>>>> You do know what a weather map is, don't you?
>>>> Maybe the quiet sun? The LIA might have started this way.
>>>>
>>>> <http://spaceweather.com/>
>>>>
>>>> <http://spaceweather.com/images2010/07jan10/midi163.gif>
>>> Bill, you don't have to look at the quiet sun to explain the UK weather.
>>> How do you think the quiet sun explains temperature changes of several
>>> degrees every few weeks?
>>
>> Modulation of cloud cover by cosmic rays.
>>
>>> It's the north wind, period.
>>
>> Quiet sun = less solar magnetic field = more cosmic rays = more
>> nucleation = more cloud cover = less solar SW to surface = lower surface
>> temperatures = colder north wind.
>>
>>> Just get used to the idea that weather is weather.
>>
>> So you think climate is something other than low-passed weather?
>>
> Look Bill, just do us all a favor and look at a weather map. West of
> Ireland is a large anticyclone. East of the UK over Europe is a powerful
> depression. These are dragging arctic air straight downwards across
> Europe. It's as simple as that. Just take that tinfoil helmet off.
Yes, we all know the drill by now ....
Hot weather is caused by �
� GLOBAL WARMING!
� EXTREME WEATHER!
� THE ENVIRONMENT FIGHTING BACK!
Cold weather is caused by �
� a dry air mass and clear skies.
� a cold front.
� nothing in particular.
Seon Ferguson
"bn 0o" <o...@mmm.com> wrote in message news:4b456677$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>
> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mbednZinaux2-djW...@westnet.com.au...
>> http://www.grist.org/article/europe_weather
>>
>> U.N. says ignore the cold, warming is still a problem 17
>>
>
>
> Yes, yes, we know the drill by now .....
>
>
>
> Hot weather is caused by .
>
> . GLOBAL WARMING!
>
> . EXTREME WEATHER!
>
> . THE ENVIRONMENT FIGHTING BACK!
>
>
>
> Cold weather is caused by .
>
> . a dry air mass and clear skies.
>
> . a cold front.
>
> . nothing in particular.
>
>
>
No Global Warming is caused by a increase in global temperatures. Not the
weather.
n0 b o
>
>
> "bn 0o" <o...@mmm.com> wrote in message news:4b456677$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>
>> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:mbednZinaux2-djW...@westnet.com.au...
>>> http://www.grist.org/article/europe_weather
>>>
>>> U.N. says ignore the cold, warming is still a problem 17
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, yes, we know the drill by now .....
>>
>>
>>
>> Hot weather is caused by .
>>
>> . GLOBAL WARMING!
>>
>> . EXTREME WEATHER!
>>
>> . THE ENVIRONMENT FIGHTING BACK!
>>
>>
>>
>> Cold weather is caused by .
>>
>> . a dry air mass and clear skies.
>>
>> . a cold front.
>>
>> . nothing in particular.
>>
>>
>>
> No Global Warming is caused by a increase in global temperatures. Not the
> weather.
Yes, but "Global Warming" is all the "weathers" averaged out, so the two are
not totally divorced!
One soon feeds into the other.
Also, why was I not surprised to hear from the UN "ignore the cold, warming
is still a problem".
It's like asking us to ignore reality and trust the models!
ROTFLMAO
Seon Ferguson
" n0 b o" <m...@nnn.com> wrote in message news:4b46c0c8$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
Well if I lived in the UK I'd probably go back to being a climate change
skeptic. But there is still global warming despite the seasons.
george
> Well if I lived in the UK I'd probably go back to being a climate change
> skeptic. But there is still global warming despite the seasons.
I have been through most of the emails and find that the 'scientists'
involved often used current weather to 'prove' global warming.
The 'heat wave and fires in Australia a year ago' for instance.
Its climate when they're talking but its not when we use the same
premise ?
Time for the real climate scientists to go back to the data and really
report on what is happening