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David Dalton

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May 2, 2021, 3:24:14 AMMay 2
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I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
with differences being that I can distinguish between
species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of
those who already have an optimally compatible match.
Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum
click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
a number of pictures available on the Internet or
emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

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David Dalton dal...@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)
https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
“But you come around in your time/Speaking of fabulous places,
create an oasis/Dries up as soon as you're gone" (Sarah McLachlan)

David Dalton

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May 2, 2021, 3:26:30 AMMay 2
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On May 2, 2021, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.263E8B1C00...@news.eternal-september.org>):

> I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
> to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
> with differences being that I can distinguish between
> species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
> 55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
> time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of
> those who already have an optimally compatible match.
> Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
> in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum
> click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
> in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.
>
> So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
> a number of pictures available on the Internet or
> emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
> harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
> cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
> multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
> theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
> subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

Obviously that subject line should have read
“matchmaking ability challenge”.
Hogwasher newsreader does not flag spelling mistakes
in the subject line.

Sylvia Else

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May 3, 2021, 12:18:51 AMMay 3
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On 02-May-21 5:24 pm, David Dalton wrote:
> I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
> to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
> with differences being that I can distinguish between
> species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
> 55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
> time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of
> those who already have an optimally compatible match.
> Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
> in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum
> click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
> in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.
>
> So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
> a number of pictures available on the Internet or
> emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
> harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
> cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
> multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
> theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
> subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.
>

There does not appear to be any objective way of determining whether or
not you are correct, which makes testing you problematic.

Sylvia.

David Dalton

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May 3, 2021, 3:07:35 AMMay 3
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On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
(in article <if9bt8...@mid.individual.net>):

> On 02-May-21 5:24 pm, David Dalton wrote:
> > I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
> > to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
> > with differences being that I can distinguish between
> > species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
> > 55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
> > time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of
> > those who already have an optimally compatible match.
> > Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
> > in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum
> > click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
> > in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.

or from memory

> > So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
> > a number of pictures available on the Internet or
> > emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
> > harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
> > cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
> > multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
> > theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
> > subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.
>
> There does not appear to be any objective way of determining whether or
> not you are correct, which makes testing you problematic.
>
> Sylvia.

Huh? The individuals who I would try my ability on
would know if they are straight, gay/lesbian, or
bisexual, and if they are cis, trans, or multi-spirit
(many of whom identify as non-binary). But I
also subdivide straight into straight-type-1, who
are optimally compatible with straight-type-1
of the opposite gender, and straight-type-2,
who are compatible only with bisexual of the
opposite gender. Also I define bisexual as
attracted to both genders, not necessarily
having sex with both genders.

For example I have intuited that Christian Slater
is transgender lesbian, and you could test
that by asking him if he is.

I haven’t checked all groups for followups and
possible test cases yet but plan to tomorrow
(Monday) night. Instead of a range of test
cases you could just test me with yourself.

Sylvia Else

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May 3, 2021, 3:53:48 AMMay 3
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Do you even understand the meaning of "statistically significant"?

Sylvia.

Ted

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May 3, 2021, 8:13:06 AMMay 3
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On Mon, 3 May 2021 17:53:44 +1000, Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid>
wrote:
I don't believe in statistics and neither should
anybody else. It's one of the ways they try to
fool us. The Bible never mentions statistics.

one

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May 3, 2021, 10:14:35 AMMay 3
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Ted wrote:
> Sylvia wrote:

>> Do you even understand the meaning of
>> "statistically significant"?

One wonders what the word, statistics, means
at times when its meaning changes in mid-
thinking of a thought-stream.

>I don't believe in statistics and neither should
>anybody else. It's one of the ways they try to
>fool us. The Bible never mentions statistics.

No mention of David's 10,000?
No 40 years, 40 days? No generations from
Adam to when Jesus was a number of nights and
the daze before emerging from death?

- hm6of1

Bob Casanova

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May 3, 2021, 12:20:35 PMMay 3
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On Mon, 03 May 2021 08:13:01 -0400, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by Ted <tedsm...@gmail.com>:
>
<snip>
>
>I don't believe in statistics and neither should
>anybody else. It's one of the ways they try to
>fool us. The Bible never mentions statistics.
>
Perhaps you should take a stats course so you'd understand
what you're rejecting.

Just curious...does the Bible mention computers, aircraft or
nuclear weapons? Perhaps you disbelieve in them, too,
especially since much of their function is based on
statistics?

Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
please take it elsewhere. Thanks.
>
--

Bob C.

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"

- Isaac Asimov

Ted

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May 3, 2021, 12:48:27 PMMay 3
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You seem lacking in spiritual insight.
Certainly God gave us numbers to count with
and it's something we should thank him for,
but he never intended for them to be put to
perverted use.

David Dalton

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May 3, 2021, 10:32:54 PMMay 3
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On May 3, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
(in article <if9og9...@mid.individual.net>):
Yes. And what if I was presented with 100 cases
who all knew their sexual orientations and
spiritual genders and I didn’t and I got all
100 correct? (Even ten should be significant,
and even several separate accurate IDs
of individuals should be significant.)

Sylvia Else

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May 3, 2021, 10:48:43 PMMay 3
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100 would be significant.

But what makes you think you can do this? Have you been able to do such
a test?

Sylvia.

David Dalton

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May 3, 2021, 10:55:41 PMMay 3
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On May 2, 2021, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.263E8B1C00...@news.eternal-september.org>):

> I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
> to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
> with differences being that I can distinguish between
> species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
> 55 species in ghuman species group)

As part of the sudden magickal evolution the following
should now be true as well:

1. some abusive relationships have been split across
species boundaries

2. the remaining abusive relationships have been made
optimally sexually compatible

3. non-abusive incompatible relationships which have
resulted in at least one child under 16, including
adoptive or fetus, have been made optimally
sexually compatible, except when each has at
least one same sex partner, when they have been
made bim--bif (which is partly compatible, or
less than optimally compatible and less likely
to stick),

4. 92% of formerly partially compatible relationships
involving at least one assisted shaktipat recipient
have been made optimally compatible; the remaining
8% have been broken up since there is no longer
partial compatibility for assisted shaktipat recipients.

All that means that 3% of humans globally have had
their sexual harmonic(s), the combination of
spiritual gender(s) and sexual orientation(s)
(the plural is for multi-spirit individuals) adjusted.
You can check that if you know a (formerly?)
platonic gay--lesbian couple who have a child
under 16 by seeing if they are now compatible.

David Dalton

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May 3, 2021, 11:11:45 PMMay 3
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On May 4, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
(in article <ifbr09...@mid.individual.net>):
I think the matchmaking ability is the primary or principal
siddhi (special ability) that I have as an avatar type,
and I have also tried to grant it to over a million
assisted shaktipat recipients globally, including
some regulars on alt.atheism, though perhaps
I have not succeeded in that yet.

But anyway, at least my intuition in checking
known cases proves correct.

> Have you been able to do such
> a test?

Not yet, since it is hard to set up by myself, which is why I
have asked on these and other groups for others
to test me. And it would be hard for me to contact
celebrities such as Christian Slater who I have
identified the sexual harmonics of, and those who
I have suggested matches for, such as
Sting and Mary Black, and Lyle Lovett and Gillian Welch
and Joni MItchell and Tom Waits, and others.

But speaking of Christian Slater, during a fake matchmaking
period of probably 1997, someone named CSGal
contacted me and asked me to match Christian
Slater and four women just from names (which
I couldn’t do even now) and I got them entirely
wrong, but then recently intuited that Christian
is transgender lesbian, as is Justin Trudeau.
As a test they should be attractive to lesbians
in their species (and would have been to all
lesbians before the species split).
And I now think that CSGal was Christian (but
the email address no longer works. I think
I might have to over time correct all the past
fake matches I did, including those four women.

David Dalton

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May 3, 2021, 11:18:25 PMMay 3
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On May 4, 2021, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.2640EF2B00...@news.eternal-september.org>):

> 4. 92% of formerly partially compatible relationships
> involving at least one assisted shaktipat recipient
> have been made optimally compatible; the remaining
> 8% have been broken up since there is no longer
> partial compatibility for assisted shaktipat recipients.

There should be between a million and two million
assisted shaktipat recipients globally, and they
should all now have the matchmaking ability,
unless the assisted shaktipat has not occurred
yet.

David Dalton

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May 3, 2021, 11:27:48 PMMay 3
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On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
(in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds...@4ax.com>):

> Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
> claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
> please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
divination ability.

David Dalton

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May 3, 2021, 11:45:10 PMMay 3
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On May 4, 2021, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.2640F2F000...@news.eternal-september.org>):

> But anyway, at least my intuition in checking
> known cases proves correct.

Although in the case of Canadian comedian Rick Mercer,
I have intuited that he is bim and compatible e.g. with
(also funny) Canadian singer/songwriter Jann Arden,
who is straight-type-2 (which I sometimes call
fourth orientation). However I am pretty sure he
has been living a gay lifestyle. But someone who
is bisexual (attracted to both genders) can be
bisexual, straight, gay/lesbian, or celibate by
lifestyle choice. However I am not about to call
bisexuals who are straight by lifestyle choice
straight-type-3, and they should admit their
attraction to both genders if they want the best
match of the opposite gender, which would be
straight-type-2.

Bob Casanova

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May 3, 2021, 11:47:20 PMMay 3
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On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com>:

>On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
>(in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds...@4ax.com>):
>
>> Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
>> claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
>> please take it elsewhere. Thanks.
>
>I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
>divination ability.
>
You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
free to reject them. HAND.

Bob Casanova

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May 3, 2021, 11:50:03 PMMay 3
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On Tue, 4 May 2021 12:48:41 +1000, the following appeared in
sci.skeptic, posted by Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid>:
And let's not forget that his opinion regarding the
orientation of others, even if it agrees with their personal
beliefs, is at best not-very-good evidence of anything,
since objective evidence is lacking.

Bob Casanova

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May 3, 2021, 11:51:44 PMMay 3
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On Mon, 03 May 2021 12:48:22 -0400, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by Ted <tedsm...@gmail.com>:
And He told you this? Amazing...

David Dalton

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May 4, 2021, 12:00:50 AMMay 4
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On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
(in article<fvg19ghg2rs2mccek...@4ax.com>):
What would you take as objective evidence? Perhaps
measurements of arousal indicators such as genital
temperature and blood flow when someone is exposed
to pictures or people of different genders? (In my
case, since I am straight-type-2, which I sometimes
call fourth orientation, I would be aroused only by
pictures of bisexual women.)

David Dalton

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May 4, 2021, 12:04:09 AMMay 4
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On May 4, 2021, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.2640FE7000...@news.eternal-september.org>):
Though again, those bisexual women (women who are
attracted to both genders) could be bisexual, straight,
lsbian, or celibate by lifestyle choice but I would still
class them as bisexual by natural orientation (based
on attraction). And lesbians (women who are
attracted just to women) who perversely choose
to have sex with men are not bisexual.

David Dalton

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May 4, 2021, 12:39:03 AMMay 4
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On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
(in article<vrg19ghr8l761rjhr...@4ax.com>):

> On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
> in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dal...@nfld.com>:
>
> > On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
> > (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds...@4ax.com>):
> >
> > > Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
> > > claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
> > > please take it elsewhere. Thanks.
> >
> > I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
> > divination ability.
> You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
> free to reject them. HAND.

I’ve been on sci.skeptic for over 25 years and divination,
including dowsing, has always been relevant
on here, and my matchmaking ability is a form
of divination.

How do you define paranormal ability?

Sylvia Else

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May 4, 2021, 12:45:33 AMMay 4
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If he could reliably anticipate what the others would say about their
orientation, that would be something, though in testing, one would have
to be careful to exclude other, non-psychic, ways that he could do that.

Of course, I doubt he has the ability. He hasn't done a proper test on
himself, so has no rational basis for his belief. He's probably just
delusional, and we've certainly seen that here before.

Sylvia.

David Dalton

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May 4, 2021, 2:25:37 AMMay 4
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On May 4, 2021, Sylvia Else wrote
(in article <ifc1rb...@mid.individual.net>):
It is very hard for me to do a test on myself. Do you
expect me to start walking up to strangers in bars
(which is unlikely given the pandemic) and ask
them if their sexual harmonic(s) is or are what
I think it or they are? I’m not about to do that,
which is why I have asked people on Usenet
to test me. But I guess you don’t know even
a short list of pictures of people who I could
try my ability on.

I have just posted a summary of some of the
possible matches I intuited in March of 2019 and
recently to alt.gossip.celebrities , which is
probably where CSGal saw my writing back
in the late 1990s.

I guess if my ability lasts, which it didn’t in
March of 2019, I could advertise my services
as a matchmaker, charging those who can
afford it and offering it free to others. Then
over time proof would come in the form of
successful optimally compatible matches,
with mutually strong orgasms that do not
fade much over time, and relationships
that last for life, and an advantage in terms
of lifespan over partially compatible relationships,
celibates, and especially over incompatible
relationships.

Good night

one

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May 4, 2021, 6:32:50 AMMay 4
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Does a five sigma mean anything to you?

What are the odds that the children of Abraham
would number half of Earth's population?

Ted

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May 4, 2021, 11:23:39 AMMay 4
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Yes, it's an example of the Marxist influence
in our math curricula.

> What are the odds that the children of Abraham
> would number half of Earth's population?


God promised him as many as the stars in
the sky. If you'd like, I can share a video
explaining the background of that promise.

Bob Casanova

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May 4, 2021, 11:48:57 AMMay 4
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On Tue, 4 May 2021 14:45:29 +1000, the following appeared in
Since he considers that what people say about themselves,
with no corroborating evidence, to be inherently valid and
sufficient (elsethread: "What would you take as objective
evidence?", with the implication that asking for objective
evidence is unreasonable), I guess he'll have to agree that
I'm the reincarnation of Gilgamesh, with all his attributes.
After all, if I say it, it must be true. I believe he has a
future in politics...
>
>Of course, I doubt he has the ability. He hasn't done a proper test on
>himself, so has no rational basis for his belief. He's probably just
>delusional, and we've certainly seen that here before.
>

Bob Casanova

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May 4, 2021, 11:55:38 AMMay 4
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On Tue, 04 May 2021 01:30:48 -0230, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com>:
Not my job to find evidence for you. Post something you
believe to be *actual*evidence and maybe we can discuss
it.But personal statements aren't objective evidence.

George Black

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May 4, 2021, 3:58:55 PMMay 4
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On 4/05/21 4:39 pm, David Dalton wrote:
> On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
> (in article<vrg19ghr8l761rjhr...@4ax.com>):
>
>> On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
>> in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dal...@nfld.com>:
>>
>>> On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
>>> (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds...@4ax.com>):
>>>
>>>> Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
>>>> claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
>>>> please take it elsewhere. Thanks.
>>>
>>> I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
>>> divination ability.
>> You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
>> free to reject them. HAND.
>
> I’ve been on sci.skeptic for over 25 years and divination,
> including dowsing, has always been relevant
> on here, and my matchmaking ability is a form
> of divination.
>
> How do you define paranormal ability?
>
Ever heard the term BULLSHIT ?????

David Dalton

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May 4, 2021, 11:29:28 PMMay 4
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I won’t reply to followups since last night just yet but
might later tonight.

The assisted shaktipat is in progress and (P) delivery
and matchmaking should now be on for recipients,
including some readers of these groups. Thus there
should be now between a million and two million humans
globally with matchmaking ability, not just me, which
is good since I can’t cover everyone, and I have
only a limited number of possible matches to draw
on, and that is weighted towards celebrities and
locals and others in my circle of contacts.

Last night I posted “celebrity matches” to
alt.gossip.celebrities with a summary of some of
the matches I have intuited in March 2019 and
recently. The latest two are

Bill Gates and June Tabor

and

Melinda Gates and Ronnie Wood

I discussed the second match in more details on
alt.rock-n-roll.stones, including the possibility of
a bridged V threesome of
Ronnie -- Melinda -- Ronnie’s lesbian wife.

one

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May 5, 2021, 7:37:56 AMMay 5
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Ted wrote:
> one wondered:

>> Does a five sigma mean anything to you?
>
>
>Yes, it's an example of the Marxist influence
>in our math curricula.

Interesting, what words mean to people.

>> What are the odds that the children of Abraham
>> would number half of Earth's population?
>
>
>God promised him as many as the stars in
>the sky. If you'd like, I can share a video
>explaining the background of that promise.

Okay.

Sounds like a plan made before the world was made
without whom nothing was made that was made.

In the mean-while, on average, one wonders
how long does it take God to keep a promise.

At times, prehaps 400 years.
At times, an it may be only 3 nights.

One time a saying was said how heaven and earth
will pass away before some words would.

- statistically speaking, rhetorically, hyperbolically ...

Unbreakable Disease

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May 5, 2021, 5:32:06 PMMay 5
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On 02.05.2021 07:24, David Dalton wrote:
> I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
> to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
> with differences being that I can distinguish between
> species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
> 55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
> time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of
> those who already have an optimally compatible match.
> Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
> in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum
> click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
> in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.
>
> So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
> a number of pictures available on the Internet or
> emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
> harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
> cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
> multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
> theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
> subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.
>
Holy s**t, with current issues on LGBT people, soc.motss should make a
comeback. Even though more people identify as LGBT than ever before, the
newsgroup is literally almost dead.

We should definitely start adapting Usenet to the modern web- and
mobile-based world.

We have SquirrelMail, that will be a nice base for our web-based Usenet
reader. Why we should write the code from the beginning when we can
reuse the existing?

Same with mobile apps. Instead of writing new code, we can reuse
existing code, and if it's unsuitable for them, then we can change it or
rewrite using the old one as reference how to get the job done.

Luckily we are making some progress, like a Matrix protocol. This
protocol is what IRC should be. This is really nothing new, it's just
realizing that old tech sometimes does better than modern stuff.

If we find way to make so-called "fediverse" handle billion spammer
idiots, then we can apply the same to Usenet and connect it to the
fediverse. It already has enough dumb people and we, programmers, aren't
keeping up with them.

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David Dalton

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May 6, 2021, 6:01:19 PMMay 6
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On May 4, 2021, George Black wrote
(in article<yIKdnYdeydnlOgz9...@giganews.com>):
Ha, good one.

If I do have the ability to identify the sexual harmonic(s)
of an individual and to find an optimally (sexually
and personality-wise) compatible match for him
or her or them, it is a siddhi (paranormal ability).

Bob Casanova

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May 6, 2021, 6:40:03 PMMay 6
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On Thu, 06 May 2021 19:31:17 -0230, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com>:

>On May 4, 2021, George Black wrote
>(in article<yIKdnYdeydnlOgz9...@giganews.com>):
>
>> On 4/05/21 4:39 pm, David Dalton wrote:
>> > On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
>> > (in article<vrg19ghr8l761rjhr...@4ax.com>):
>> >
>> > > On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
>> > > in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dal...@nfld.com>:
>> > >
>> > > > On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
>> > > > (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds...@4ax.com>):
>> > > >
>> > > > > Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
>> > > > > claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
>> > > > > please take it elsewhere. Thanks.
>> > > >
>> > > > I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
>> > > > divination ability.
>> > > You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
>> > > free to reject them. HAND.
>> >
>> > I致e been on sci.skeptic for over 25 years and divination,
>> > including dowsing, has always been relevant
>> > on here, and my matchmaking ability is a form
>> > of divination.
>> >
>> > How do you define paranormal ability?
>> Ever heard the term BULLSHIT ?????
>
>Ha, good one.
>
>If I do have the ability to identify the sexual harmonic(s)
>of an individual and to find an optimally (sexually
>and personality-wise) compatible match for him
>or her or them, it is a siddhi (paranormal ability).
>
So you say, but you have described no way to prove it;
assuming you require personal contact with the individuals
involved, *and* that there's some way other than their
testimony to show that they are indeed "matched", how do you
demonstrate to an objective observer that your "talent" is
any more than a really good ability to read personalities
and convince the subjects that you are correct?

Claimed paranormal abilities involve such things as
telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation, etc., all of which
can be tested objectively*. Your claimed ability, OTOH,
cannot, at least as far as I can see.

*No such test has ever shown the claimed ability to actually
exist, BTW.

David Dalton

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May 6, 2021, 8:03:53 PMMay 6
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On May 6, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
(in article<kjr89gpvpaoe57j3c...@4ax.com>):

> On Thu, 06 May 2021 19:31:17 -0230, the following appeared
> in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dal...@nfld.com>:
>
> > On May 4, 2021, George Black wrote
> > (in article<yIKdnYdeydnlOgz9...@giganews.com>):
> >
> > > On 4/05/21 4:39 pm, David Dalton wrote:
> > > > On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
> > > > (in article<vrg19ghr8l761rjhr...@4ax.com>):
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
> > > > > in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dal...@nfld.com>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
> > > > > > (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds...@4ax.com>):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
> > > > > > > claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
> > > > > > > please take it elsewhere. Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
> > > > > > divination ability.
> > > > > You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
> > > > > free to reject them. HAND.
> > > >
> > > > I’ve been on sci.skeptic for over 25 years and divination,
> > > > including dowsing, has always been relevant
> > > > on here, and my matchmaking ability is a form
> > > > of divination.
> > > >
> > > > How do you define paranormal ability?
> > > Ever heard the term BULLSHIT ?????
> >
> > Ha, good one.
> >
> > If I do have the ability to identify the sexual harmonic(s)
> > of an individual and to find an optimally (sexually
> > and personality-wise) compatible match for him
> > or her or them, it is a siddhi (paranormal ability).
> So you say, but you have described no way to prove it;
> assuming you require personal contact with the individuals
> involved, *and* that there's some way other than their
> testimony to show that they are indeed "matched", how do you
> demonstrate to an objective observer that your "talent" is
> any more than a really good ability to read personalities
> and convince the subjects that you are correct?
>
> Claimed paranormal abilities involve such things as
> telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation, etc., all of which
> can be tested objectively*. Your claimed ability, OTOH,
> cannot, at least as far as I can see.
>
> *No such test has ever shown the claimed ability to actually
> exist, BTW.

Well, if someone presented me with five pictures
of gay men and five pictures of straight men and
I identified all of their orientations correctly,
that would be some evidence.

Bob Casanova

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May 7, 2021, 2:03:12 AMMay 7
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On Thu, 06 May 2021 21:33:51 -0230, the following appeared
in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com>:

>On May 6, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
>(in article<kjr89gpvpaoe57j3c...@4ax.com>):
>
>> On Thu, 06 May 2021 19:31:17 -0230, the following appeared
>> in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dal...@nfld.com>:
>>
>> > On May 4, 2021, George Black wrote
>> > (in article<yIKdnYdeydnlOgz9...@giganews.com>):
>> >
>> > > On 4/05/21 4:39 pm, David Dalton wrote:
>> > > > On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
>> > > > (in article<vrg19ghr8l761rjhr...@4ax.com>):
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
>> > > > > in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dal...@nfld.com>:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
>> > > > > > (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds...@4ax.com>):
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
>> > > > > > > claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
>> > > > > > > please take it elsewhere. Thanks.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
>> > > > > > divination ability.
>> > > > > You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
>> > > > > free to reject them. HAND.
>> > > >
>> > > > I致e been on sci.skeptic for over 25 years and divination,
But of what? Once again, how do you demonstrate to an
objective observer that your "talent" is any more than a
really good ability to read personalities and pick up on
subtle clues?

David Dalton

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May 7, 2021, 2:21:31 AMMay 7
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On May 7, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
(in article<hsl99gte24kjb82ct...@4ax.com>):

> On Thu, 06 May 2021 21:33:51 -0230, the following appeared
> in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dal...@nfld.com>:
>
> > On May 6, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
> > (in article<kjr89gpvpaoe57j3c...@4ax.com>):
> >
> > > On Thu, 06 May 2021 19:31:17 -0230, the following appeared
> > > in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dal...@nfld.com>:
> > >
> > > > On May 4, 2021, George Black wrote
> > > > (in article<yIKdnYdeydnlOgz9...@giganews.com>):
> > > >
> > > > > On 4/05/21 4:39 pm, David Dalton wrote:
> > > > > > On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
> > > > > > (in article<vrg19ghr8l761rjhr...@4ax.com>):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
> > > > > > > in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dal...@nfld.com>:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
> > > > > > > > (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds...@4ax.com>):
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
> > > > > > > > > claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
> > > > > > > > > please take it elsewhere. Thanks.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
> > > > > > > > divination ability.
> > > > > > > You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
> > > > > > > free to reject them. HAND.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I’ve been on sci.skeptic for over 25 years and divination,
From pictures, particularly if they were non-stereotypical
and randomly ordered? I doubt that anyone with no
special ability could do that. And my ability does not
really draw on a picture but a sort of “glint” that I
sense around the picture.

The assisted shaktipat had not occurred but is now
in progress and thus within an hour or two there
should be over a million globally who will also
have the matchmaking ability, possibly including you,
Bob, and definitely if you had read at least 8000
words of my writing as of early April 7.

David Dalton

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May 7, 2021, 3:33:36 AMMay 7
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On May 2, 2021, David Dalton wrote
(in article<0001HW.263E8B1C00...@news.eternal-september.org>):

> I had an accurate matchmaking ability from late March 8
> to early March 20, 2019, and it has returned recently,
> with differences being that I can distinguish between
> species (there has been a split of ghomosapiens into
> 55 species in ghuman species group) and that this
> time it is more difficult to identify the sexual harmonic(s) of
> those who already have an optimally compatible match.
> Also unlike past fake matchmaking periods I had beginning
> in 1997, it is done by third eye intuition rather than perineum
> click divination, and I can’t do it just from a name but
> in person, or from a picture, video, or audio recording.
>
> So anyway I challenge you to test me, I guess with
> a number of pictures available on the Internet or
> emailed to me, to see if I can identify the sexual
> harmonic(s) of a range of individuals, both
> cis one-spirit, transgender one-spirit, and
> multi-spirit. I outline my eight sexual harmonics
> theory fairly late on the Recent Changes/Working Notes
> subpage of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

As part of the assisted shaktipat, which is now in progress,
over a million globally should now have been granted
the matchmaking ability. For a descriptive list of recipients
see the Recent Changes/Working Notes subpage
of my Salmon on the Thorns webpage.

Bob Casanova

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On Fri, 07 May 2021 03:51:29 -0230, the following appeared
No, thanks, and bye. Have fun.

George Black

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May 7, 2021, 4:00:17 PMMay 7
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On 7/05/21 10:39 am, Bob Casanova wrote:
> On Thu, 06 May 2021 19:31:17 -0230, the following appeared
> in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com>:
>
>> On May 4, 2021, George Black wrote
>> (in article<yIKdnYdeydnlOgz9...@giganews.com>):
>>
>>> On 4/05/21 4:39 pm, David Dalton wrote:
>>>> On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
>>>> (in article<vrg19ghr8l761rjhr...@4ax.com>):
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
>>>>> in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dal...@nfld.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
>>>>>> (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds...@4ax.com>):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
>>>>>>> claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
>>>>>>> please take it elsewhere. Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
>>>>>> divination ability.
>>>>> You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
>>>>> free to reject them. HAND.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve been on sci.skeptic for over 25 years and divination,
>>>> including dowsing, has always been relevant
>>>> on here, and my matchmaking ability is a form
>>>> of divination.
>>>>
>>>> How do you define paranormal ability?
>>> Ever heard the term BULLSHIT ?????
>>
>> Ha, good one.
>>
>> If I do have the ability to identify the sexual harmonic(s)
>> of an individual and to find an optimally (sexually
>> and personality-wise) compatible match for him
>> or her or them, it is a siddhi (paranormal ability).
>>
> So you say, but you have described no way to prove it;
> assuming you require personal contact with the individuals
> involved, *and* that there's some way other than their
> testimony to show that they are indeed "matched", how do you
> demonstrate to an objective observer that your "talent" is
> any more than a really good ability to read personalities
> and convince the subjects that you are correct?
>
> Claimed paranormal abilities involve such things as
> telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation, etc., all of which
> can be tested objectively*. Your claimed ability, OTOH,
> cannot, at least as far as I can see.
>
> *No such test has ever shown the claimed ability to actually
> exist, BTW.
>
Remember Earl Gordon Curley?
I think this one is pretty much out there

George Black

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May 7, 2021, 4:02:07 PMMay 7
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On 7/05/21 12:03 pm, David Dalton wrote:

> Well, if someone presented me with five pictures
> of gay men and five pictures of straight men and
> I identified all of their orientations correctly,
> that would be some evidence.
>
Look up James Randi...
And there are many such able to disprove your claims

Bob Casanova

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May 7, 2021, 10:18:49 PMMay 7
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On Sat, 8 May 2021 08:00:10 +1200, the following appeared in
sci.skeptic, posted by George Black <gbl...@hnpl.net>:

>On 7/05/21 10:39 am, Bob Casanova wrote:
>> On Thu, 06 May 2021 19:31:17 -0230, the following appeared
>> in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com>:
>>
>>> On May 4, 2021, George Black wrote
>>> (in article<yIKdnYdeydnlOgz9...@giganews.com>):
>>>
>>>> On 4/05/21 4:39 pm, David Dalton wrote:
>>>>> On May 4, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
>>>>> (in article<vrg19ghr8l761rjhr...@4ax.com>):
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, 04 May 2021 00:57:46 -0230, the following appeared
>>>>>> in sci.skeptic, posted by David Dalton<dal...@nfld.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 3, 2021, Bob Casanova wrote
>>>>>>> (in article<vb809gd0hbhqcq6ds...@4ax.com>):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, this is off-topic in sci.skeptic (which is about
>>>>>>>> claims of paranormal abilities), as is the entire thread, so
>>>>>>>> please take it elsewhere. Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think my matchmaking ability counts as a paranormal
>>>>>>> divination ability.
>>>>>> You are, of course, welcome to your opinions, just as I am
>>>>>> free to reject them. HAND.
>>>>>
>>>>> I致e been on sci.skeptic for over 25 years and divination,
>>>>> including dowsing, has always been relevant
>>>>> on here, and my matchmaking ability is a form
>>>>> of divination.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you define paranormal ability?
>>>> Ever heard the term BULLSHIT ?????
>>>
>>> Ha, good one.
>>>
>>> If I do have the ability to identify the sexual harmonic(s)
>>> of an individual and to find an optimally (sexually
>>> and personality-wise) compatible match for him
>>> or her or them, it is a siddhi (paranormal ability).
>>>
>> So you say, but you have described no way to prove it;
>> assuming you require personal contact with the individuals
>> involved, *and* that there's some way other than their
>> testimony to show that they are indeed "matched", how do you
>> demonstrate to an objective observer that your "talent" is
>> any more than a really good ability to read personalities
>> and convince the subjects that you are correct?
>>
>> Claimed paranormal abilities involve such things as
>> telepathy, telekinesis, teleportation, etc., all of which
>> can be tested objectively*. Your claimed ability, OTOH,
>> cannot, at least as far as I can see.
>>
>> *No such test has ever shown the claimed ability to actually
>> exist, BTW.
>>
>Remember Earl Gordon Curley?
>
*Oh* yeah. "Man as Old as Coal!!!" Oy...
>
>I think this one is pretty much out there
>
Remember Riley G, the Psychic Defective...er... Detective?
Another one with zero objective evidence.

So many loons, so little time...

Bob Casanova

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May 7, 2021, 10:21:34 PMMay 7
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On Sat, 8 May 2021 08:02:00 +1200, the following appeared in
sci.skeptic, posted by George Black <gbl...@hnpl.net>:
Randi set up actual objective and repeatable tests; the
problem is finding an objective test for these claims.
Apparently he thinks what he proposed is objective. I weep
for the current generation...

R Kym Horsell

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May 7, 2021, 10:40:39 PMMay 7
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Any evidence for that? LOL.

A few years back I was contracted to write a program that could
tell whether 2 people were "compatible". It was meant to be a phone ap.

Turned out is was "easily" doable using machine learning.
I tinkered up a "facelib" using open source s/w that could
take 1000s of facial measurements from color photos, fee that into
a neural network and decide whether they would ever date.

Trained on a large sample (10+) of hollychook head shots knowing
who had dated who over the years and who had married who and for how
long and how far back.

At least on the validation part of the tuning -- where you
feed your program photos it had not be tuned on to write the s/w --
it was getting 60-70% "this person will like that person well enough to
go on >=3 dates" and NOT x.

So not any great surprise that people seeking compatible people might
look for certain regularity or irregularity of features in the face
of potential dates and anyone else might know wnough to be able to
guess the answers way better than randomly.

So the threat is not unambiguously about any ESP but certainly
can be an intuitive-level skill that some people pick up better than others.

--
<kaggle.com/kymhorsell1>

Bob Casanova

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May 7, 2021, 11:52:15 PMMay 7
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On Sat, 8 May 2021 02:40:35 +0000 (UTC), the following
appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by R Kym Horsell
<k...@kymhorsell.com>:
...which was exactly the point I made to the OP earlier.
From that post:
"...how do you demonstrate to an objective observer that
your 'talent' is any more than a really good ability to read
personalities and pick up on subtle clues?"
He ignored that as a possibility; it had to be
"paranormal".

R Kym Horsell

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May 8, 2021, 2:51:13 AMMay 8
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...

It's all a matter of timing.

At one point determining someone's personality well enough
to predict their sexual patners from the bumps on their face
would have been considered "paranormal".

The oriignal brief for my project was to determine facial types
according to Chinese medical beliefs and the compatibilities
according to their generations-old rules.

Turned out that method turned out to be almost as good as learning
how to match the various bumps and facial (a-)symmetricies directly.

If the universe is governed by chaotic math it should come as no
surprise that one part of it "looks like" another part of it
much like zooming in on that old Mandelbrot picture keeps seeing
similar things over and over at various scales in various places.

Fractal similarity seems to predict how science can make predictions
from data and be fairly sure at leat some of it will come to pass.

After some more recent work on predictive modeling for various events
including earthquakes and mass animal deaths it seems the patterns there
are predicted better than chance by the positions of the planets --
a concept once considered next to magic. :)

--
Discovering The 5 Personality Types - Which one are you?
The five personality types according to Chinese medicine is a fascinating
tool to understand a persons nature ... Wood, Fire, Earth, Metal, Water.
-- orientalmed.ac.uk, 6 Sept 2018

Ted

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May 29, 2021, 8:49:53 PMMay 29
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Jesus said that. You believe in Jesus, don't you?

one

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May 30, 2021, 7:33:43 AMMay 30
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I'm not sure what you mean
when you say, in Jesus,
or what: to believe in Jesus, means.

I can believe words can be found in Matthew 24:35.

The previous verse says: Verily I say unto you,
This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

The same words are found in Luke, Chapter 21, verses 32-33.

What does, quote, this generation, unquote mean?
Was Jesus speaking to his own disciples as being, that generation?

What does it mean to say, heaven and earth will pass away?
Can the saying have to do with a transcending of sorts?

Was Jesus talking about the destruction of the Temple?

- opinions vary ... Thanks!

one

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May 30, 2021, 9:22:53 AMMay 30
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one wrote:
> Ted wrote:
>> one wrote:
>>> Ted wrote:
>>> > one wondered:
>>
>>> >> Does a five sigma mean anything to you?
>>> >
>>> >Yes, it's an example of the Marxist influence
>>> >in our math curricula.
>>
>>> Interesting, what words mean to people.
>>
>>> >> What are the odds that the children of Abraham
>>> >> would number half of Earth's population?
>>> >
>>> >God promised him as many as the stars in
>>> >the sky. If you'd like, I can share a video
>>> >explaining the background of that promise.
>>
>>> Okay.

So, where's the video of the promised promise?

What happens when the background changes
and a figure of speech occurs, such as this?

Does Brahman have a personified nature?
Are all Atma the children of Being?

When the image of God is reflected in essence
When the breath of Life was breathed in
When a breath is breathed out
What was created is then recreated

>>> Sounds like a plan made before the world was made
>>> without whom nothing was made that was made.

Recreational porpoises may surf waves when at play.

>>> In the mean-while, on average, one wonders
>>> how long does it take God to keep a promise.
>>
>>> At times, prehaps 400 years.
>>> At times, an it may be only 3 nights.
>>
>>> One time a saying was said how heaven and earth
>>> will pass away before some words would.
>>
>>> - statistically speaking, rhetorically,
>>> hyperbolically ...
>>
>>Jesus said that. You believe in Jesus, don't you?
>
>I'm not sure what you mean
>when you say, in Jesus,
>or what: to believe in Jesus, means.

Ted might mean, do you believe Jesus was/is the Messiah?

An axis-mundi in other words, which, as time goes shows
how the CE or AD begins at a point of origin, grid-wise.
BCE or BC means, before when a point was which
signifies, prehaps a five sigma.

>I can believe words can be found in Matthew 24:35.
>
>The previous verse says: Verily I say unto you,
>This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
>
>The same words are found in Luke, Chapter 21, verses 32-33.
>
>What does, quote, this generation, unquote mean?
>Was Jesus speaking to his own disciples as being, that generation?
>
>What does it mean to say, heaven and earth will pass away?
>Can the saying have to do with a transcending of sorts?
>
>Was Jesus talking about the destruction of the Temple?
>
>- opinions vary ... Thanks!

Aye. For example, the name that names.
Is the name that is a name always, the Name?

Siddhartha was said to have spoken of Amitabha Buddha.
Guatama Buddha, mythologically may have pointed to a name.

Is there a name upon which, when named, saves?
If so, when that name is named, is it the same name?

- kinda has a Ring to wit ... Cheers!

Ted

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Bart Ehrman wrote a couple of books on the
historical Jesus. I recommend those, if
you're interested.

Yes, he believed God's Kingdom would soon
be established. There were many of that
opinion in Palestine at the time. Ehrman
calls them apocalypticists.

one

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Jun 3, 2021, 8:29:37 AMJun 3
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Ted wrote:

>Bart Ehrman wrote a couple of books on the
>historical Jesus. I recommend those, if
>you're interested.

Seems likely to me a man existed who was
deified by his followers which defied
the culture in which he lived at the time.

>Yes, he believed God's Kingdom would soon
>be established. There were many of that
>opinion in Palestine at the time. Ehrman
>calls them apocalypticists.

So-called, super-natural events, paranormal,
unable to be replicated by science, may occur.

It's possible David, who started this thread, might
have experienced various mystical types of them.

- paradigms vary ...

Ted

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Jun 3, 2021, 6:58:39 PMJun 3
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True. About twenty years ago, I was taken up
into the Third Heaven and shown visions of
the future. As sort of a side effect of that, I
guess, is why I too now sometimes have
supernormal experiences and abilities.

one

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Jun 4, 2021, 7:56:04 AMJun 4
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Ted wrote:
> one wrote:

>> So-called, super-natural events, paranormal,
>> unable to be replicated by science, may occur.

When a skeptic, agnostic, atheist or scientist
experiences an odd phenomenon, material/physical
reasons, causes, factors are sought to map the event.

To presume a reason exists or reasons, plural, exist
might go without saying, naturally as one carves
what was a proverbial Uncarved Block (UB).

>> It's possible David, who started this thread, might
>> have experienced various mystical types of them.

Cause-effect could be taken for granted, axiomatically.

>> - paradigms vary ...
>
>True. About twenty years ago, I was taken up
>into the Third Heaven and shown visions of
>the future. As sort of a side effect of that, I
>guess, is why I too now sometimes have
>supernormal experiences and abilities.

One may wonder, what if Bart Ehrman were
to experience a so-called, miracle. Would he believe
a deity of some sort was involved or would he instead
seek a more scientific explanation.

Reminds me of when Michael Shermer was
about to get married, and then a miracle occurred.

Having had supernormal experiences and abilities
sometimes, some people extrapolate from that
and assume they are more than simply normal.

David appears to me to be delusional.
As, what he calls, an avatar-type, he'd like
to change the world and in his own Way, he does.

Being his own self, doing what he does, changes
the world from being what it was to as it is
now and then he begins again.

- time after time ...
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