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jdawe

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Nov 13, 2009, 1:01:25 AM11/13/09
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There is no such thing as 'gravity'.

There is only:

Physical Attraction

or

Physical Repulsion

Whether:

energy\matter physically attracts

or

energy\matter physically repulses

depends on whether:

energy\matter is 'At Rest' ( the centre )

or

energy\matter is 'In Motion' ( the orbitals )

Now, within:

'At Rest'

or

'In Motion'

Energy\matter can only move in 2 opposing ways:

Circular

or

Linear

This is easiest to see in a human being we have 2 opposing joints:

Circular joints

or

Linear joints

To run 'In Motion' you use those 2 opposing joints.

or

To stand still 'At Rest' you still use those same 2 opposing joints.

Now, let's take a look at an atom.

The centre is 'At Rest'. It does so by moving in 2 opposing ways:

Circular ( spin )

or

Linear ( directional )

The 'At Rest' spin\directional movement of the centre generates a
physical repulsion field around the centre.

The oribital's are 'In Motion'. They do so by moving in 2 opposing
ways:

Circular ( orbiting )

or

Linear ( directional )

The 'In Motion' orbiting\directional movement of the orbital's around
the centre generates a physical attraction field around the orbital's.

The same is true for the entire universe.

Let's take a step up and take a look at our earth and our moon.

The earth is the centre 'At Rest'. It does so by moving in 2 opposing
ways:

Circular ( spin )

or

Linear ( directional )

The 'At Rest' spin\directional movement of the earth generates a
physical repulsion field around the earth.

The moon is the orbital 'In Motion'.

It does so by moving in 2 opposing ways:

Circular ( orbiting )

or

Linear ( directional )

The 'In Motion' orbiting\directional movement of the moon around the
earth generates a physical attraction field around the moon.

Let's take another step up and take a look at our sun and the planets
including our earth.

The sun is the centre 'At Rest'. It does so by moving in 2 opposing
ways:

Circular ( spin )

or

Linear ( directional )

The 'At Rest' spin\directional movement of the sun generates a
physical repulsion field around the sun.

The planets are the orbital's 'In Motion'.

They do so by moving in 2 opposing ways:

Circular ( orbiting )

or

Linear ( directional )

The 'In Motion' orbiting\directional movement of the planets around
the sun generates a physical attraction field around the planets.

Let's take one last step up and take a look at a galaxy.

The galactic centre is 'At Rest'. It does so by moving in 2 opposing
ways:

Circular ( spin )

or

Linear ( directional )

The 'At Rest' spin\directional movement of the galactic centre
generates a physical repulsion field around the galactic centre.

The star\planetary systems are the orbital's 'In Motion'.

They do so by moving in 2 opposing ways:

Circular ( orbiting )

or

Linear ( directional )

The 'In Motion' orbiting\directional movement of the star\planetary
systems around the galactic centre generates a physical attraction
field around the star\planetary systems.

---------------------------------

Now, naturally only 2 different things can occur:

We either have:

More energy\matter 'In Motion' orbiting around the centre than energy
\matter 'At Rest' in the centre.

or

More energy\matter 'At Rest' in the centre than energy\matter 'In
Motion' orbiting around the centre.

When there is more energy\matter 'In Motion' orbiting around the
centre then you have black hole for the centre.

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Now is there anything here that anyone does not understand?

-Josh.

Inertial

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"jdawe" <mrj...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> There is no such thing as 'gravity'.

Ok .. so you're an idiot

> There is only:
>
> Physical Attraction
>
> or
>
> Physical Repulsion

And gravity is physical attraction .. looks like you just contradicted
yourself

> Whether:
>
> energy\matter physically attracts
>
> or
>
> energy\matter physically repulses
>
> depends on whether:
>
> energy\matter is 'At Rest' ( the centre )
>
> or
>
> energy\matter is 'In Motion' ( the orbitals )

That;'s clearly refuted by reality

> Now, within:
>
> 'At Rest'
>
> or
>
> 'In Motion'

Which all depends on ones frame of reference

> Energy\matter can only move in 2 opposing ways:
>
> Circular
>
> or
>
> Linear

So what if something moves in an ellipse .. or square ?

> This is easiest to see in a human being we have 2 opposing joints:
>
> Circular joints
>
> or
>
> Linear joints

Irrelevant

> To run 'In Motion' you use those 2 opposing joints.
>
> or
>
> To stand still 'At Rest' you still use those same 2 opposing joints.

More irrelevance

> Now, let's take a look at an atom.
>
> The centre is 'At Rest'. It does so by moving in 2 opposing ways:
>
> Circular ( spin )
>
> or
>
> Linear ( directional )

If it is moving it is not at rest

> The 'At Rest' spin\directional movement of the centre generates a
> physical repulsion field around the centre.
>
> The oribital's are 'In Motion'. They do so by moving in 2 opposing
> ways:
>
> Circular ( orbiting )
>
> or
>
> Linear ( directional )

Hang on .. linear was the opposite of spin before .. now its the opposite of
orbiting.

> The 'In Motion' orbiting\directional movement of the orbital's around
> the centre generates a physical attraction field around the orbital's.

You have it backwards. Attraction causes orbits.

> The same is true for the entire universe.

Hardly

> Let's take a step up and take a look at our earth and our moon.
>
> The earth is the centre 'At Rest'. It does so by moving in 2 opposing
> ways:
>
> Circular ( spin )
>
> or
>
> Linear ( directional )

Nope

> The 'At Rest' spin\directional movement of the earth generates a
> physical repulsion field around the earth.

There is no repulsion field

> The moon is the orbital 'In Motion'.
>
> It does so by moving in 2 opposing ways:
>
> Circular ( orbiting )
>
> or
>
> Linear ( directional )

Nope

> The 'In Motion' orbiting\directional movement of the moon around the
> earth generates a physical attraction field around the moon.

Nope

[snip rest .. more of the same nonsense]

> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> Now is there anything here that anyone does not understand?

Yes .. why you are such an idiot and think that what you posted was good
science.

jmfbahciv

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Nov 13, 2009, 7:45:20 AM11/13/09
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Yes.

/BAH

Raymond Yohros

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Nov 13, 2009, 10:59:08 AM11/13/09
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yes there may be a litl sense in some of what you say but
it is clear by the way you say it that you dont understand

youre dual thinking its not going to take you too
far if you ignore general knoledge and empirical data.

Uncle Al

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Nov 13, 2009, 3:02:27 PM11/13/09
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jdawe wrote:
>
> There is no such thing as 'gravity'.
[snip 180 lines of crap]

1) Jump off a 10 story roof; report back to us.

2) Nordtvedt Effect
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0507083
http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0411113
<http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/pdf/prl83-3585.pdf>
http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0301024
Phys. Rev. Lett. 93 261101 (2004)

3) idiot

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm

BURT

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Nov 13, 2009, 3:31:12 PM11/13/09
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On Nov 13, 12:02 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
> jdawe wrote:
>
> > There is no such thing as 'gravity'.
>
> [snip 180 lines of crap]
>
>    1) Jump off a 10 story roof; report back to us.
>
>    2) Nordtvedt Effecthttp://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0507083http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0411113

> <http://www.npl.washington.edu/eotwash/pdf/prl83-3585.pdf>http://arXiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0301024
> Phys. Rev. Lett. 93 261101 (2004)
>
>    3) idiot
>
> --
> Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/

>  (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm

The gravity curve orginates at the center of mass and radiates
outward.

Mitch Raemsch

xxein

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Nov 13, 2009, 6:21:44 PM11/13/09
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> far if you ignore general knoledge and empirical data.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

xxein: I fully agree with that.

jdawe

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Nov 13, 2009, 11:02:52 PM11/13/09
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OK time to have some fun.

Mitch, do you have a wife? Or maybe a girlfriend?

What do you feel about your wife or girlfriend?

I'm assuming you are a human ( energy\matter ) .

Are you attracted to your wife or girlfriend?

What about your family dog are you physically attracted to your family
dog? I'm assuming you are. In fact you are attracted to everything -
your cat, your tree, your car, the neighbours dog and cat everything.

because for you energy\matter can only do one thing - 'attract'.

In fact for you the moon is stuck to the earth, the earth is stuck to
the sun, the sun is stuck to every other star\planet\moon or whatever
energy\matter there is in the universe. We are all living on this
stuck together lump of energy\matter. Because for you there is no
repulsion only attraction. Everything is attracted and stuck together.

See what I'm getting at, Mitch? Can you understand this?

You cannot have attraction without repulsion.

You cannot have repulsion without attraction.

Are you able to understand this, Mitch? Is everybody else able to
understand this?

Because we are not going to progress unless you understand repulsion
is the inverse of attraction.

We are not living in a universe where everything is stuck together.

-Josh.

jdawe

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Nov 14, 2009, 12:36:22 AM11/14/09
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> far if you ignore general knoledge and empirical data.- Hide quoted text -
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On the contrary.

My duel force thinking has taken me further than any other human has
ever gone before.

My duel force thinking brought you the Law Of The Universe:

---------------------------

There are only 2 opposing physical 'things' in this universe:

Energy

or

Matter

There are only 2 opposing physical 'states' those 2 opposing physical
'things' can be in:

In Motion

or

At Rest

When energy\matter is 'In Motion' it generates a 'physical attraction'
field.

When energy\matter is 'At Rest' it generates a 'physical repulsion'
field.

-------------------------------

My duel force thinking shows you how to:

---------------------------------

invert energy into matter:

Oppose the object of energy\matter with a 'physical repulsion' field
by setting the object of energy\matter 'In Motion'.

invert matter into energy:

Oppose the object of energy\matter with a 'physical attraction' field
by setting the object of energy\matter 'At Rest'.

--------------------------------

My duel force thinking shows why:

--------------------------------

the exterior of the sun is composed of more energy than matter.

or

the exterior of the planets are composed of more matter than energy.

Because

the 'repulsion field' of the sun is slowly inverting the energy\matter
of the planets into matter.

the 'attraction field' of the planets are slowly inverting the energy
\matter of the sun into energy.

--------------------------------

My duel force thinking explains so called 'black holes':

--------------------------------

When the 'repulsion field' is greater than the 'attration field' the
obiting 'In Motion' energy\matter is inverted into matter before the
centre 'At Rest is inverted all into energy.

When the 'attraction field' is greater than the 'repulsion field' the
centre 'At Rest' is inverted all into energy first before the orbiting
'In Motion' energy\matter is inverted all into matter.

Black holes are simply a centre that get's its energy\matter inverted
automatically into energy because the 'attraction field' is greater
than the 'repulsion field'. Therefore, black holes only occur in
galaxies and above.

---------------------------------

My duel force thinking shows you how two humans are attracted to one
another:

---------------------------------

When there is more energy\matter of a human ( skin, hair, muscle etc )
'At Rest' there is a greater 'repulsion field' generated.

When there is more energy\matter of a human ( skin, hair, muscle etc )
'In Motion' there is a greater 'attraction field' generated.

The greater the attraction field of the human the greater the
physically attraction to that human will be.

---------------------------------

My duel force thinking explains everything.

-Josh.

BURT

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Nov 14, 2009, 2:30:17 PM11/14/09
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God is doing gravity.

Mitch Raemsch

jdawe

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Nov 14, 2009, 8:35:49 PM11/14/09
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> Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Not god unfortunately my friend.

This might make it easier to understand:

Within the earth the centre ( core ) is 'At Rest'.

It does so by:

Circular ( core spin )

or

Linear ( north and south pole )

The exterior of the earth is 'In Motion'.

It does so by:

Circular ( exterior orbiting around the core )

or

Linear ( The straight line running through the equator )

Therefore:

We have 'repulsion force' being emitted out of the core and up through
the north\south pole.

or

We have 'attraction force' being emitted around the exterior of the
earth.

Now, before you say:

"Hey, there is a difference between the north and south pole because
I've a north and south pole magnet."

Yes, becaause within:

Circular movement

or

Linear movement

There are 2 opposing ways you can go:

Forward ( go one way )

or

Reverse ( go the other way )

Example:

If I was looking down on the earth at the north pole I would see the
earth revolving around from left to right.

or

If I was looking up on the earth at the south pole I would see the
earth revolving from right to left.

This opposing ( forward or backward ) of ( circular or linear )
movement gives you:

Forward repulsion force

or

Backward repulsion force

AND

Forward attraction force

or

Backward attraction force

-------------------------------

Now, is there anything that anyone does not understand? :)

-Josh.

mpc755

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Nov 14, 2009, 8:40:34 PM11/14/09
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On Nov 13, 1:01 am, jdawe <mrjd...@gmail.com> wrote:

The aether is an elastic medium which is displaced by matter. The
displaced aether pushes back in an attempt to return to a state of
rest. The pushing back is gravity.

BURT

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Nov 14, 2009, 8:42:01 PM11/14/09
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> -Josh.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Gravity is the force with its own time.

Mitch Raemsch

jdawe

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Nov 14, 2009, 8:50:37 PM11/14/09
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*Forgot to mention:

'repulsion force' is emitted out of the core and up through
the north\south pole.

or

'attraction force' is emitted *out of the equator* and around the
exterior and of the
earth.

-josh.

Y.Porat

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Nov 14, 2009, 9:38:46 PM11/14/09
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--------------------
to make it shorter

you are talking about my
'Circlon idea'
just make a google search
and you will find the orriginal

why dont you mention the original ??

Y.Porat
----------------------------

BURT

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Nov 14, 2009, 9:54:23 PM11/14/09
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Double electrons repulse one another in their spherical fields.

Mitch Raemsch

jdawe

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Nov 14, 2009, 10:11:28 PM11/14/09
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So I'm only in 2 states according to you guys either:

I'm wrong so therefore I'm crazy.

or

I'm right so therefore it was really your idea.

-Josh :)

BURT

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Nov 14, 2009, 10:27:19 PM11/14/09
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> -Josh :)- Hide quoted text -

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> - Show quoted text -

Give it up.

jdawe

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Nov 14, 2009, 10:56:55 PM11/14/09
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your ego taken bit of a hit, Burt?

To tell you the truth I don't really care if someone wants to say it
was really their idea.

All I care about is that now we can finally progress 'together' past
the mistake that was 'gravity'.

Finally:

'Society' progresses.

Not

'Individual' ego's.

-Josh.

BURT

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Nov 14, 2009, 10:59:59 PM11/14/09
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> -Josh.- Hide quoted text -

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I mean you.

Mitch Raemsch

Y.Porat

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Nov 15, 2009, 1:19:21 AM11/15/09
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possibility No 2
provided you understand it rightly ):-)

Y.Porat
------------------------------------

Y.Porat

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Nov 15, 2009, 1:22:33 AM11/15/09
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so i hope you understand as well
thatit is not due to the
Curved space time !!
all forces (force messengers ) are
properties of mass only !!

ATB
Y.Porat
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BURT

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Nov 15, 2009, 3:32:30 AM11/15/09
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Gravity is curved space with its own time. The second time is motion
time set out by Einstein's Special Relativity.

Mitch Raemsch

Aleph

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Nov 16, 2009, 11:03:32 AM11/16/09
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On Sunday 15 November 2009 02:38, in <a3df3ede-1b47-45f2-

b46f-331...@f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Y.Porat sat down and wrote:


> to make it shorter
>
> you are talking about my
> 'Circlon idea'
> just make a google search
> and you will find the orriginal
>
> why dont you mention the original ??

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